Lors de mon dernier voyage en Chine, j'ai pu remarquer quelques islamistes qui trainaient dans la province du Yunnan, çà me choque pas mais je uis assez curieux de savoir si ils descendent du nord du pays (Xinjiang) ou bien ? 😄
" Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. "
a vous deux qui m'avaient ecris...effectivement je voulais dire musulmans😇😇, désole pour ce defaut de language, comme quoi on prends vite le mauvais plis...... et que il y est pas de soucis, aucune arrière pensée dans ce post, juste envie de connaitre
" Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. "
Et bien oui, il y a des musulmans en Chine, un peu partout, et des mosquées dans toutes les grandes villes... Une mosquée particulièrement sympa à Beijing, d'ailleurs.
J'espère que tu as pensé à prévenir la CIA, le Mossad et le FSB, sans oublier bien entendu le policier chinois du coin!
Quant aux musulmans chinois, il y en a partout et d'origines diverses.
Dans les provinces du Xinjiang et du Gansu, ce sont essentiellement des membres des minorités ethniques non han (ouighours et autres). Certains ont bien entendu migré dans d'autres provinces, de même qu'on peut trouver des corses et des martiniquais à Paris.
Un peu partout dans le reste du pays, il y a des hui, c'est-à-dire les descendans de chinois han convertis à l'islam. Certains se remarquent facilement (calotte blanche et barbe pour les hommes, voile pour les dames), d'autres non (ce qui est normal, puisque la minorité ethnique hui est une fausse minorité ethnique, et qu'à part la religion rien ne les différencie des han). Bon j'exagère, il y a quand même des hui typés, puisque coule parfois dans leurs veines du sang arabe ou perse. A noter enfin qu'il existe des hui non musulmans. Si si, j'en connais! Ils ont des têtes de han, parlent la langue des han, et ont (ou non) la religion bouddhiste des han. Mais alors qu'est-ce qui les différencie des han? Juste une mention sur leur carte d'identité, et le fait qu'ils aient eu des ancêtres musulmans plus ou moins lointains.
Comme je le disais, on retrouve des hui un peu partout, avec quand même des foyers de peuplement traditionnels (Ningxia, Henan, Fujian).
merci à toi Yangguizi, ce sont les fameux Hui du Yunnan qui parle la langue Bai (désolé si j'écris mal l'orthographe) et qui ne comprenne pas le Chinois alors ?
" Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. "
euh, si certains Hui savent parler le Bai, c'est tout à leur honneur, mais ce n'est en aucun cas leur langue maternelle. Dans la plupart des cas, la langue maternelle des hui est celle des han de leur lieu de naissance. Ainsi, un hui de Quanzhou (Fujian) parlera le dialecte han de Quanzhou.
Je n'ai pas connaissance d'une véritable communauté musulmane parmi les Bai, mais j'avoue ne pas être très au parfum de ce qui se passe dans cette minorité. Maintenant, il n'est pas impossible que des Bai se soient convertis à l'islam, mais ce serait je pense assez marginal. Dans ce cas de figure, je suppose qu'il restera un Bai et non un Hui. Peut-être aussi qu'il y a eu des mariages mixtes entre Bai et Hui, mais dans ce cas le rejeton ne pourra pas prendre les deux "nationalités". Bai ou Hui, il faut choisir! 🙂
ben dis donc, quel puit de sience !!
a l'occasion, j'essayerai de retrouver le nom de ce village, au nord de Dali, je crois l'avoir marqué sur des notes mais où..... 🙂
merci pour toutes ces précisions .
" Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. "
Pour shematiser il y a les Hui d'origine chinoise et les Ouïgours d'origine (lointaine) turque. Les seconds parlent le ouïgours, une langue basée sur l'écriture arabe (mais ca n'a pas toujours été le cas http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ou%C3%AFghour).
Les ouïgours, en Chine, sont persécutés au même titre que les Tibétains, mais on en parle beaucoup moins et on a assez peu d'infos. C'est aussi une "région autonome" (qu'est-ce que serait la Chine sans ses "régions autonomes"... ca fait un sacré bout de territoire !), le Turkestan (ou son nom chinois, le Xinjiang). Et depuis les vagues d'attentats islamiste de part le monde, le gouvernement chinois en profite pour les faire passer pour de "dangereux terroristes" et exercer une répression digne de ce qui se passe dans les provinces voisines.
Pour shematiser il y a les Hui d'origine chinoise et les Ouïgours d'origine (lointaine) turque. Les seconds parlent le ouïgours, une langue basée sur l'écriture arabe (mais ca n'a pas toujours été le cas http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ou%C3%AFghour).
Les ouigours sont bien des turcs. ils forment une des branches turcs. Et c'est l'ensemble de toutes les branches est appelé turc meme si la turquie (ottaman) a usurpé le nom.
Tu as raison de parler des Ouigours, c'est tres rare qu'ils soient evoques alors qu'au meme titre que les tibetains, ils sont vraiment devenus au fil des ans des parrias au yeux du gouvernement "central" de Pekin .
C'est un peuple fier et qui souffre en silence a l'instar des Tibetains qui ont malheureusement perdu leur "bataille";
Malgre leur "rudesse" apparente les ouigours un un coeur "gros comme ca" et ont le sens de l'hospitalite tres aigu, ils conviront facilement le voyageur qui est seul (a plusieurs ils seront trop "timide" et auront peur de se sentir juger) a passer une soiree, voir une nuit chez eux et a partager un repas frugal, bref, n'hésitez pas a venir decouvrir ce peuple et sa region encore pour un temps "epargnee" ...ou presque !
Pour en revenir au sujet de base, ouil il exsite bien des musulmans "Hui" dans le Yunnan, ils etaient d'ailleurs appelles les "Douganes", etaient pour la plupart d'entres eux commercants et sont arrives en apportant nombres de leur conaissances aussi bien architecturales que guerrieres a un moment ou les armees imperiales avaient besoin d'eux !
Suite a un massacre du aune insurection, ils sont ensuite partis vers 1870 en fuyant vers la Birmanie (d'oules japonnais les chasseront quelques temps plus tard ) et en thailande (ancienement Siam) et ont ainsi forme le depart de la communaute musulmane dans ce pays !!
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
bonjour, moi aussi j'ai appris plein de choses avec vous tous, et puis ce soir, je voulais vous dire qu'une émission passait sur ARTE justement a propos des musulmans qui ne veulent pas devenir Islamistes, çà devrait vous interesser .
Peut-être pas en rapport direct avec la question de Passger26 mais surement interéssant au regard de la chaine qui diffuse cette émision !
bonjour monsieur, je suis djassour.je suis etudiant de francais .je connais un peu histoire d'islame .je crois que l'islame vienne par Arabe en Asie Centrale en 651.c'est dependre avec cette information.les musulmans venaient avant notre ewpoque ...11ieme, 13ieme siecle.merci pour votre attention.au revoir
Les Hui sont les descendants de chinois Han convertis à l’islam métissés avec des peuples d’Asie centrale.
Ouroumtsi dans la province de Xinjiang au pied des montagnes du Tianshan est la capitale habitée par les Ouïgours (groupe turco-mongol) qui parlent un dialecte turc et sont principalement musulmans. J'ai beaucoup apprécié ce peuple.
Je suis allée dans un marché aux alentours de Kashgar et ces gens étaient très étonnés de voir arriver un groupe de touristes. Nous étions une attraction pour eux.
Bonjour DJASSOUR,
Est ce que vous pouvez me dire la signification de votre prénom "Djassour" en arabe (je suppose que c'est un prénom arabe. sinon merci de m'indiquer l'origine!). Il est très joli comme prénom.
Cesur (= jasur) est un nom de compagnie de bus assez fréquent en Turquie... Une compagnie de SanliUrfa, par exemple.
Il est d'usage en Turquie de nommer les compagnies de bus par des qualités morales.
Pendant 1008 ans, cette région échappa au contrôle chinois, depuis la défaite de l’armée de l’Empire Tang face aux armées musulmanes, composées d’Arabes, de Tibétains et d’Ouïghours près de la rivière Talas au Kazakhstan (en 751 après Jésus-Christ) jusqu’à la conquête mandchoue de 1759. Cette conquête marqua la fin du Royaume ouïghour du Turkestan oriental. L’occupation mandchoue dura jusqu’en 1862 mais ces 63 ans d’occupation furent marqués par 42 révoltes ouïghoures. La dernière révolte, en 1863, chassa les Mandchous et un nouveau royaume indépendant vit le jour. Il fut reconnu par l’Empire ottoman, l’Empire russe et le Royaume Uni. Mais les Britanniques, craignant une expansion russe vers l’Est, persuadèrent la cour mandchoue de reconquérir le pays. Les banques britanniques financèrent la reconquête. L’armée mandchoue sous les ordres du général Zho Zhung Tang attaqua l’Ouïghouristan en 1876. Le Turkestan oriental, rebaptisé Xinjiang (autrefois transcrit Sinkiang), ce qui signifie littéralement en chinois « la nouvelle frontière » (新 xīn « nouveau » et 疆 jiāng « frontière, territoire limitrophe »), fut annexé à l’Empire mandchou des Qing le 18 novembre 1884.
La Chine nationaliste, après le renversement du “dernier Empereur” en 1911, maintint le Xinjiang dans la République de Chine. Les Ouïghours se soulevèrent à nouveau. En 1933 fut proclamée à Kachgar la République islamique du Turkestan oriental. Elle fut écrasée par les Soviétiques. En 1944, nouvelle tentative à Yili, plus au Nord. Celle-là dura 5 années, pendant lesquelles les Ouïghours administrèrent une région semi-autonome tolérée par le Kuomintang (ou Kuomintang). L’expérience prit fin en 1949.
En 1950, un an après la victoire des communistes sur le Kuomintang de Tchang Kaï-chek, l’Ouïghouristan passa sous la domination communiste chinoise, qui perdure depuis. Un nouveau soulèvement ouïghour, en 1954 à Hotan, échoua face à l’armée rouge chinoise.
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
j'ai réserve mon voyage du 5 au 26 mai 2027 , je commence préparer mon itineraire et chercher des hotels , ( je sais que c'est tot ) et si j'ai trouve des hotels a séoul et a busan , je trouve que ailleurs (Yeosu par exemple ) énormement d'hotel ne sont pas disponible (sur booking par exemple presque tous non disponible ) , l, IA me dit de ne pas m'inquieter car les hotels en coree du sud n'ouvrent leur réservation que 6 mois a l"avance donc c'est normal de voir non disponibles pour la majorite des hotels sur les sites de réservation
Pourriez vous me confirmer cela et evidemment me rassurer (!) , merci beaucoup
philippe
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I could really use your help to finalize our trip to Japan.
We’re heading there for three weeks with my partner, starting November 10th. Our plan was to visit Tokyo, Kyoto, and a few stops in between (nothing too original so far…).
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula
Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather
Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara)
Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Takayama: 3 days
Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport)
Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night
Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me
Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay
Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo)
Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kawaguchiko: 1 night
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Koya-san: 1 night
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights
Takayama: 3 nights
Kanazawa: 3 nights
Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points:
I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets.
I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted.
I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing
Day 2 to 4: Beijing
Day 5: Datong
Day 6 & 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11: Luoyang
Day 12: Dengfeng
flight
Day 13 & 14: Chongqing
flight
Day 15 & 16: Lijiang
Day 17: Dali
Day 18: Kunming
Day 19: Jianshui
Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang
Day 22: Travel via Guilin
Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo
Day 25: Guilin
Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie
flight
Day 28 & 29: Shanghai
Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently:
1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think?
2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority?
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026:
Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris).
This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome.
Thanks so much!
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns.
A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?