je vais en chine et j'ai petit problème ( ou grand ), j'ai pris des billets d'avion pour toute la famille sauf que le visa périme 1 jour avant le retour en france donc j'aimerai savoir si un connaisseur sait quelles sont les conséquences et est-ce que c'est grave juste un jour de depassement😕😕 Merci d'avance !
Visa périmé d'un jour en Chine
by Lpg97
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je vais en chine et j'ai petit problème ( ou grand ), j'ai pris des billets d'avion pour toute la famille sauf que le visa périme 1 jour avant le retour en france donc j'aimerai savoir si un connaisseur sait quelles sont les conséquences et est-ce que c'est grave juste un jour de depassement😕😕 Merci d'avance !
je vais en chine et j'ai petit problème ( ou grand ), j'ai pris des billets d'avion pour toute la famille sauf que le visa périme 1 jour avant le retour en france donc j'aimerai savoir si un connaisseur sait quelles sont les conséquences et est-ce que c'est grave juste un jour de depassement😕😕 Merci d'avance !
Vous serez en overstay.
Si la compagnie vous laisse partir en Chine , vous aurez déjà de la chance puis je vous conseille si vous arrivez en Chine de vous renseigner auprès de l'immigration pour faire un prolongement de visa.
En tout état de cause vous pouvez téléphoner à l'ambassade de Chine.
En tout état de cause vous pouvez téléphoner à l'ambassade de Chine.
D'accord merci du renseignement ! Et est-ce que vous savez comment c'est calculé le temps de séjour sur un visa ? Je pars le 14/07 en avion mais j'arrive le 15/07 en Chine et je reviens le 14/08.
Donc au final j'ai un doute sur la durée : Si mon Visa est à son 30eme jour et que je prends mon avion à 9h, ça fait que j'ai entamé le 30eme jour et est-ce qu'il toujours valable ? Ou il expire le 15/08 à minuit ?
J'espère avoir été clair ^^" et merci d'avance !
J'espère avoir été clair ^^" et merci d'avance !
Bonsoir,
Si le visa est valable 30 jours, je crois comprendre que c'est 30 jours pleins. Jusqu'à 23:59 du trentième jour. Je ne vois pas où est l'overstay.
Michel
Si le visa est valable 30 jours, je crois comprendre que c'est 30 jours pleins. Jusqu'à 23:59 du trentième jour. Je ne vois pas où est l'overstay.
Michel
D'accord merci du renseignement ! Et est-ce que vous savez comment c'est calculé le temps de séjour sur un visa ? Je pars le 14/07 en avion mais j'arrive le 15/07 en Chine et je reviens le 14/08.
Donc au final j'ai un doute sur la durée : Si mon Visa est à son 30eme jour et que je prends mon avion à 9h, ça fait que j'ai entamé le 30eme jour et est-ce qu'il toujours valable ? Ou il expire le 15/08 à minuit ?
J'espère avoir été clair ^^" et merci d'avance !
Bonjour. Les jours sont décomptés à partir du lendemain de votre arrivée mais vous ne devez pas oublier que Juillet a 31 jours. Si vous arrivez le 15/7, le 16/7 sera le premier jour de votre visa, le 1/8 sera le 17e jour et le 14/8 sera le 30e et dernier jour. Vous devriez être ok.
J'espère avoir été clair ^^" et merci d'avance !
Bonjour. Les jours sont décomptés à partir du lendemain de votre arrivée mais vous ne devez pas oublier que Juillet a 31 jours. Si vous arrivez le 15/7, le 16/7 sera le premier jour de votre visa, le 1/8 sera le 17e jour et le 14/8 sera le 30e et dernier jour. Vous devriez être ok.
Là, tu es mal. Tu as le choix. Soit essayer de changer la date de retour, soit depuis la Chine, et selon où tu es ça risque d'être compliqué, faire une demande de renouvellement de visa.
La legislation se durcit en ce moment.
Selon sur qui tu tombes le jour de l'embarquement, ce ne sera pas cool.
Dans tous les cas prévoit une somme d'argent pour payer le jour supplémentaire.
(aucune idée du cout, les visas sont de 30 ou 60 jours, je n'ai jamais essayé de dépasser)
Bonjour Zoé,
Pourquoi il "est mal" ? Normalement, si je compte bien, il est en règle. Le coût que l'on lit sur les forums anglophone est de 500 RMB/jour de retard, mais là, il n'y a pas de dépassement.
Michel
Pourquoi il "est mal" ? Normalement, si je compte bien, il est en règle. Le coût que l'on lit sur les forums anglophone est de 500 RMB/jour de retard, mais là, il n'y a pas de dépassement.
Michel
Je confirme l'information de Mars 2012hk. Ce qui compte c'est le jour et l'heure aux quels tu passes la douane Chnoise. Si tu arrives en Chine le 15/07, il faut alors compter 30 jours dont le premier jours est le 16/07. Tu dois donc quitter la Chine au plus tard le 14/08.
Pas de problèmes. Bon voyage.
tu dois passer la douane de l'aéroport le 14 avant minuit.
Mais si je quitte le pays le 14/08 à 9H normalement il n'y a pas de problème ?
Non. Vous pouvez rester 30 jours pleins à partir du lendemain de l'arrivée. Comptez par vous-même:
16/07 00:00-23:59 = Jour 1 17/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 2 18/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 3 19/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 4 … 29/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 14 30/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 15 31/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 16 01/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 17 02/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 18 … 12/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 28 13/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 29 14/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 30 (dernier jour où le visa est valide)
Si vous avez un doute appelez Actions-Visas. Aussi, je vous rappelle que vous avez fourni copie des billets d'avion afin d'obtenir le visa, ils ne vous l'auraient sans doute pas délivré sans commentaire si la situation vous amenait à faire de l'overstay...
Non. Vous pouvez rester 30 jours pleins à partir du lendemain de l'arrivée. Comptez par vous-même:
16/07 00:00-23:59 = Jour 1 17/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 2 18/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 3 19/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 4 … 29/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 14 30/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 15 31/07 00:00-23:59 = jour 16 01/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 17 02/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 18 … 12/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 28 13/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 29 14/08 00:00-23:59 = jour 30 (dernier jour où le visa est valide)
Si vous avez un doute appelez Actions-Visas. Aussi, je vous rappelle que vous avez fourni copie des billets d'avion afin d'obtenir le visa, ils ne vous l'auraient sans doute pas délivré sans commentaire si la situation vous amenait à faire de l'overstay...
La méthode de calcul est clairement expliquée sur le site pour les visas: https://www.visaforchina.org/PER_EN/generalinformation/visaknowledge/268863.shtml
Le calcul commence effectivement le lendemain.
Hello !!
Je réponds parce que je suis dans le même cas, avec un jour en plus!
arrivée en douane le 11/07 : ce premier jour ne compte pas
décollage le 10/08 donc du 12 au 10 ça fait 30 jours pile (31 jours en juillet)
Sauf que moi, je fais une escale a Beijing le 11 aout après un vol domestique.
Action Visa m'a dit que dans ces cas, je ne devrais pas avoir de problème en faisant une prolongation dans un bureau d'immigration...
Au pire j'ai lu également 60usd par jour de dépassement!
Good luck
Cyril
Good luck
Cyril
Le système de comptage des jours est bien fait car il inclus toujours les mois en 31 jours. D'autre part, le premier jours non compté est assez logique car quand on arrive en Chine à minuit moins cinq, on perd d'amblé un jours comtabilisable.
Si on dépasse, les conséquences dépendent beaucoup de l'humeur du contrôleur. Au pire la somme demandée pour un jour, ne va pas bouleverser le voyage. En 2014, j'ai dépassé de huit jours la date autorisée sans qu'on ne me demande rien à l'immigration.
Si on dépasse, les conséquences dépendent beaucoup de l'humeur du contrôleur. Au pire la somme demandée pour un jour, ne va pas bouleverser le voyage. En 2014, j'ai dépassé de huit jours la date autorisée sans qu'on ne me demande rien à l'immigration.
Si c'est suite à un vol intérieur, tu te trouve dans l'aéroport. Cela doit être assez facile de se renseigner en moins d'une heure.
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From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
bonjour a tous et toutes
je suis francais et vie en france et ma copine thailandaise m'apprends qu'elle est enceinte, elle vit en thailande. Dans un premier temps, un test de paternité afin d etre rassuré. quelles démarches dois je effectuer pour reconnaitre l'enfant, puis je le faire avant la naissance ou apres, ou dois je le faire, les papiers etc....
Je précise que je souhaite qu'il reste en thailande mais peut venir sans probleme en france à n'importe qu'elle moment !
Merci de prendre le temps de lire et d'y répondre.
hi
Do you know of any travel insurance for someone with a pre-existing condition?
Can a person who’s had a heart attack and is on medication get travel insurance?
Thanks