Visas Chine-Russie-Mongolie?
by Marinette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut a tous, je compte partir par le trans de moscou jusqu a pekin, mais je ne sais comment m organiser par rapport au visas !faut il qu au depart je prenne juste le visas russe et prendre les autre sur place?la j ai recue tout les formulaires pr l obtention des visas, ils demandent enormement de details sur les sorties l itineraire, les adresses, le billets de retour etc.. moi je voulait partir sans trop prevoir tout ca!!comment dois je proceder?ah oui, peut on sortir par ex de mongolie qd le visa est expire, aller en chine et "rerentrer" en ayant un nouveau visa? et faire comme ca pendant un voyage d au moin 4 mois, en passant d un pays a un autre. merci a tous de vos prochaine reponses et experiences marie
je suis en ce moment sur le trajet que tu prevois de faire... en ce qui me concerne jai demande et obtenu mes visas russe et mongol avant le depart sans trop de difficultes...jai mis un itineraire plus ou moins precis et jai expliquer que je comptais acheter mes billets de train au fur et a mesure...ils mont pas poser plus de questions..je fais ma demande de visa chinois ici, a oulan-bator et ca a lair de pas etre trop complique...pour ce qui est de sortir et de rentrer a nouveau je ne sais pas trop comment ca pourrait se passer mais ca depend surement des pays et de ta chance! autrement tu peux demander un visa daffaire russe comme ca tu auras deux (ou trois mois je sais plus ) direct! pour la mongolie je crois que tu peux faire etendre ton visa sur place...voila, si je peux taider en quoi que ce soit n hesite pas.
bon voyage!
ema
enjoy your past, experience your future!!
merci emma de ta reponse! et toi as tu prit le trans, et quel prix as tu paye? comment t es tu organisee par rapport a ton assurance rapatriement (obligatoire pour les visas) et quel adresses(russie chine) as tu mis sur tes formulaires?
sinon comment est le climat en mongolie a cette epoque! fait tu tes trajets a cheval?pour moi l epoque ou je compte etre en chine, est parait il la saison de la mousson! on verra la bas!! une autre question qui n a rien a voir, comment as tu organise ton paquetage de depart? est quel est ton budget?et pour combien de temps? pleins de questions!!! en tout cas je te souhaite de realiser ton voyage au mieux! MARIE
sinon comment est le climat en mongolie a cette epoque! fait tu tes trajets a cheval?pour moi l epoque ou je compte etre en chine, est parait il la saison de la mousson! on verra la bas!! une autre question qui n a rien a voir, comment as tu organise ton paquetage de depart? est quel est ton budget?et pour combien de temps? pleins de questions!!! en tout cas je te souhaite de realiser ton voyage au mieux! MARIE
je vais essayer de repondre a tes questions...tout d abord oui jai pris le trans-siberien jusqu a irkutsk ou jai fait un stop puis le transmongolien jusqu a oulan bator ou je me trouve en ce moment. le premier trajet (moscou-irkutsk) en ' kupe' ( cabine 4 places) mas coute 2500 roubles soit a peu pres 75 euros. irkutsk- oulan bator 1500 roubles (44 euros) pour la suit j ne sais pas encore vu que je nai pas encore mon billet...en tout cas je te conseille de voir sur place pour prendre tes billets car cest bien moins cher que si tu reserve en france...essaye aussi de voir direct a la gare plutot que par les agences des guest houses ou autres car elles prennent parfois de grasse comission!
pour l assurance rapatriement jai contacte europ assistance ( tout les detenturs de la carte master card en benficie automatiquemnt) en leurs demandant de menvoyer une attesation..ce qu ils ont fait rapidement. ca a ete suffisant.pour les adresses jai mis celle de l hotel qui ma fourni l invitation (tu as besoin d une invitation pour la russie et seul un organisme touristique peut te la fournir) pour le visa russe et pour la mongolie jai juste pris une adresse au hasard dans le lonely...
en ce qui concerne le climat...en ce momnt je crois qu on avoisine les -22/25, mais je nensuis pas sure car je nai pas vu de thermometre...je me fie juste a la temperature d irkutsk...je suis a oulan bator pour organiser mon trip dans le gobi et je ne suis donc pas encore montee a cheval mais la plus grosse partie du trip ( je pars 10 jours) se fera en jeep... pour le paquetage jai pris les t-shirts les plus pourris que javais, des sous-vetements thermiques (types odlo, damart...t en aura besoin!) deux pantalons solides, un bon/chaud mateau, des moufle (mieux que des gants), un sac de couchage...et des bottes que je croyais chaudes...il s est averes que ca ne convenait pas du tout pour la siberie: 10 min de marche et javais les pieds congeles...c est un peu le probleme de tout les gens que jai rencontre. jai donc achete des bottes russe en feutre. on ne croirait jamais que ca va tenir chaud en les voyant mais cest fantastiques!! ca mas coute 10 euros a peu pres...dans tout les cas prevois des trucs chaud mais ne tinquiete pas trop si tu as oublie quelques chose ou autre, tu trouvera des produits tout a fait adaptes sur place et pour pas trop cher si tu te fout detre a la mode!
en ce qui concerne mon budget c est difficile a dire...j suis partie de france avec 3000 euros mais je voyage pour 6 mois minimum et je compte travailler en route...tout depend du temps que tu veux passer dans chaque pays sachant que la russie est plus chere que la mongolie et que la chine si jn crois ce qu on m en dit...compte 12/13 euros par nuit en russie en dortoir et 4 en mongolie (sauf ger et tour dans le gobi)
voila jespere que ca taidera un peu...jai du me debrouiller seule pour les visas et ca nas pas ete facile de reunir toutes les infos. mercis pour tes encouragements...je ten souhaite tout autant.
ema
pour l assurance rapatriement jai contacte europ assistance ( tout les detenturs de la carte master card en benficie automatiquemnt) en leurs demandant de menvoyer une attesation..ce qu ils ont fait rapidement. ca a ete suffisant.pour les adresses jai mis celle de l hotel qui ma fourni l invitation (tu as besoin d une invitation pour la russie et seul un organisme touristique peut te la fournir) pour le visa russe et pour la mongolie jai juste pris une adresse au hasard dans le lonely...
en ce qui concerne le climat...en ce momnt je crois qu on avoisine les -22/25, mais je nensuis pas sure car je nai pas vu de thermometre...je me fie juste a la temperature d irkutsk...je suis a oulan bator pour organiser mon trip dans le gobi et je ne suis donc pas encore montee a cheval mais la plus grosse partie du trip ( je pars 10 jours) se fera en jeep... pour le paquetage jai pris les t-shirts les plus pourris que javais, des sous-vetements thermiques (types odlo, damart...t en aura besoin!) deux pantalons solides, un bon/chaud mateau, des moufle (mieux que des gants), un sac de couchage...et des bottes que je croyais chaudes...il s est averes que ca ne convenait pas du tout pour la siberie: 10 min de marche et javais les pieds congeles...c est un peu le probleme de tout les gens que jai rencontre. jai donc achete des bottes russe en feutre. on ne croirait jamais que ca va tenir chaud en les voyant mais cest fantastiques!! ca mas coute 10 euros a peu pres...dans tout les cas prevois des trucs chaud mais ne tinquiete pas trop si tu as oublie quelques chose ou autre, tu trouvera des produits tout a fait adaptes sur place et pour pas trop cher si tu te fout detre a la mode!
en ce qui concerne mon budget c est difficile a dire...j suis partie de france avec 3000 euros mais je voyage pour 6 mois minimum et je compte travailler en route...tout depend du temps que tu veux passer dans chaque pays sachant que la russie est plus chere que la mongolie et que la chine si jn crois ce qu on m en dit...compte 12/13 euros par nuit en russie en dortoir et 4 en mongolie (sauf ger et tour dans le gobi)
voila jespere que ca taidera un peu...jai du me debrouiller seule pour les visas et ca nas pas ete facile de reunir toutes les infos. mercis pour tes encouragements...je ten souhaite tout autant.
ema
Salut Emma!
Seras tu encore là? on est 2 à vouloir partir en aout vers la Mongolie ou une de nos copines sera en stage. Et bien sur, c'est le transibérien qui nous intéresse. On galère surtt pour savoir si il faut réserver les billets en France ou sur place, et on a du mal a comprendre tout le coté administratif. Peur que ce soit une galère formidable!
Est ce que tu pourrais nous dire ou tu as choppé le Transib, comment tu as fait pour les billets, les étapes qut tu as faites, etc... en fait, tous les conseils possibles! Et es tu rentrée maintenant ou tjrs en vadrouille?
Merci et bonne route si tu as cette chance!
Seras tu encore là? on est 2 à vouloir partir en aout vers la Mongolie ou une de nos copines sera en stage. Et bien sur, c'est le transibérien qui nous intéresse. On galère surtt pour savoir si il faut réserver les billets en France ou sur place, et on a du mal a comprendre tout le coté administratif. Peur que ce soit une galère formidable!
Est ce que tu pourrais nous dire ou tu as choppé le Transib, comment tu as fait pour les billets, les étapes qut tu as faites, etc... en fait, tous les conseils possibles! Et es tu rentrée maintenant ou tjrs en vadrouille?
Merci et bonne route si tu as cette chance!
Salut Stephpich, Eh bien non je ne suis plus en vadrouille, j ai été oblige de rentrer plus tôt que prévu...J en profite pour bosser et amasser un max de sous pour le prochain délire! Bref je vais essayer de te renseigner autant que possible même si j'ai effectue ce trajet en basse saison ce qui ne sera pas votre cas...et ça j'ai bien peur que ça change quelques trucs. Surtout au sujet de la réservation des billets. Je n'ai jamais réservé un billet plus de deux jours a l'avance mais en hiver les trains ne sont pas bondés comme en été...je ne sais pas si c'est vrai ou pas mais apparemment sans resa tu peux attendre un moment avant d'avoir une place. le problème c est que réserver depuis la France ça va te coûter le triple!! alors a vous de voir..tenter la chance ou jouer la sécurité. En ce qui me concerne j'achetais mes billets sur place, a la gare de départ et même si on est pas toujours super bien accueilli quand on parle pas russe ça a toujours fini par fonctionner...le plus simple c'est encore de demander a quelqu'un de ton hôtel de te faire un petit papier avec les indications nécessaires pour qu'on te fasse ton billet, ça simplifie pas mal!! J'ai pris le transsibérien a Moscou après avoir traversé en bus pas mal des pays de l'Est et m'être arrête une semaine a St Petersbourg, stop a Irkutsk puis a Ulan-Bator et enfin à Pékin...Voila bientôt 5 ans que je voyage tous les hiver mais jusque la j'avais toujours pris l'avion...ce voyage intégralement par la terre est totalement différent, et de loin le plus enrichissant ...je prévois d'ailleurs la route de la soie pour l'hiver prochain. Pour le cote administratif dont tu parles, j'ai entendu ou lu pas mal de gens qui avait énormément galèré pour le visa Russe mais quant a moi je n'ai vraiment pas eu de problème a l'obtenir une fois que j'avais réuni toute la paperasse...ça devrait bien se passer mais commence a t'en occuper a l'avance si tu veux éviter les mauvaises surprises. espère avoir répondu a tes questions et si ce n'est pas le cas hésite pas a me contacter.😉
salut emma,
y'a quelqu'un? ou t'es repartie en périple :o) voila, je pars avec des amis en avril jusqu'en inde via le trajet que tu as fait (russie, mongolie, chine). tu disais que tu étais partie avec un budget de 3000€, combien de temps ca t'a fait? sinon autour du lac baikal, tu es resté combien de temps?
merci de tes réponses Loïc
y'a quelqu'un? ou t'es repartie en périple :o) voila, je pars avec des amis en avril jusqu'en inde via le trajet que tu as fait (russie, mongolie, chine). tu disais que tu étais partie avec un budget de 3000€, combien de temps ca t'a fait? sinon autour du lac baikal, tu es resté combien de temps?
merci de tes réponses Loïc
Le voyage est ma maison. - Muriel Rukeyser
salut loic,
desole d avoir tarde a repondre mais en inde internet est super long et jai tout simplement renonce a passe des heures au cyber...bref...me voila de retour dans la jungle urbaine...
concernant tes questions sur le budget, quand je suis rentre de pekin il me restais encore 1000 euros et javais voyage deja 2 mois...jaurais surement pu tenir 2 ou 3 mois suplementaire vu que j arrivais en asie du sud est ou cest bien moins cher.
pour le lac baikal je ne suis restee que quelques jours car mon visa etait termine...en plus ca caillais grave la bas.
voili, voila...moi aussi je repars en avril pour linde mais je passerai par les pays du middle east...peut etre qu on se croisera!😉
ciao
desole d avoir tarde a repondre mais en inde internet est super long et jai tout simplement renonce a passe des heures au cyber...bref...me voila de retour dans la jungle urbaine...
concernant tes questions sur le budget, quand je suis rentre de pekin il me restais encore 1000 euros et javais voyage deja 2 mois...jaurais surement pu tenir 2 ou 3 mois suplementaire vu que j arrivais en asie du sud est ou cest bien moins cher.
pour le lac baikal je ne suis restee que quelques jours car mon visa etait termine...en plus ca caillais grave la bas.
voili, voila...moi aussi je repars en avril pour linde mais je passerai par les pays du middle east...peut etre qu on se croisera!😉
ciao
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Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks