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Hi, how’s the visit to the pyramids going? Do we buy tickets on the spot? Is the distance to cover significant? How do you get around—on foot? Are there shuttles? Thanks
Visiting the pyramids
by Masthibert
Translated into English.
Hello everyone,
There are two ticket booth areas—I always go to the lower one, facing the Habou Shakra restaurant, where we often go with our tours. The ticket office is right across the street. There’s a line for foreigners, which moves pretty quickly. Just avoid going on Fridays—it’s a day off for Muslims, so it gets crowded. That doesn’t bother us, but we’ve learned the hard way. Though it made us laugh because it wasn’t the first time—we kept getting stopped by Muslim women who wanted to take photos with my wife, just because she’s blonde with blue eyes. They even noticed she has a birthmark in one eye! As for me, I have no idea why they wanted photos with me, especially with those women—it was pretty funny.
To start your visit, you usually go to the left, where the restroom building is.
For distances, the shortest route is to Khephren’s pyramid in the middle (before that, you’ll pass the lower temple of the same pyramid). Then, about 500 meters to the left or right, you’ll find the other two pyramids. We’re used to doing the full loop, including the tombs of nobles or close associates, so it usually takes us almost half a day—or even longer if there aren’t many people. We love "exploring" in detail. So, plan for around 3 to 4 km, including the walk back down after the visit and returning to the exit.
Finally, a great decision: no more camels or horses. Phew! We’ve witnessed some real cruelty from the owners toward these animals. Plus, being harassed by them, we’ve never given in. We also know what can happen with camels, so we pass. Our backs thank us for it.
Thoutmosis
To start your visit, you usually go to the left, where the restroom building is.
For distances, the shortest route is to Khephren’s pyramid in the middle (before that, you’ll pass the lower temple of the same pyramid). Then, about 500 meters to the left or right, you’ll find the other two pyramids. We’re used to doing the full loop, including the tombs of nobles or close associates, so it usually takes us almost half a day—or even longer if there aren’t many people. We love "exploring" in detail. So, plan for around 3 to 4 km, including the walk back down after the visit and returning to the exit.
Finally, a great decision: no more camels or horses. Phew! We’ve witnessed some real cruelty from the owners toward these animals. Plus, being harassed by them, we’ve never given in. We also know what can happen with camels, so we pass. Our backs thank us for it.
Thoutmosis
Hello, how does visiting the pyramids go? Do we buy tickets, is the distance to cover significant? How is it done? On foot? Are there shuttles? Thanks
Hey Camarguais 😄 I recommend visiting them first thing in the morning to avoid the crowds, and especially to escape the scorching sun that’ll hit you right in the face 😅
Hey Camarguais 😄 I recommend visiting them first thing in the morning to avoid the crowds, and especially to escape the scorching sun that’ll hit you right in the face 😅
Hello everyone,
It’s not necessarily the same for everyone. It really depends on when the big tour buses arrive, with their waves of tourists—usually after breakfast or lunch. For the rest, like solo travelers or Egyptians, it’s always very early. Egyptians are used to getting up early, and even on holidays, it’s the same. So, there’s no magic trick—it’s all about luck. As for the temperature, it depends on the time of year. The best period is from late October to late March, but it can still vary a lot. In January, February, and early March, it can be cool, even very cool, with a lot of wind. In fact, in February 2018, in Cairo, it was the only time my wife got very sick because of the weather. You end up breathing in all kinds of stuff—even worse in Cairo. The result? Bronchitis, fever, the whole package. She was in bed for two weeks. Luckily, we had a very good doctor in Luxor, our home base, and she was well taken care of. We have Egyptian friends who caught the flu in the middle of July, so there are no hard rules. You just have to go with the flow and not overthink it.
Have a great day!
Thoutmosis
I never comment on Belgians—they’re too weird. 😂 Still, at 6 AM it’s way cooler than at 1 PM when the scorching sun beats down on your head.
Hello everyone,
Those quirky Belgians , you must know at least a few. Maybe that’s why they’re so well-liked wherever they go.
Anyway, this is the first time I’ve noticed this—our French friends, and we’ve got a bunch of them, really appreciate them. We hear from them almost every week, like right now during their trip to Aveyron—nearly every day!
When I tell them Belgians are quirky, they’ll have a good laugh.
Have a great day,
Thoutmosis
Hello, how does visiting the pyramids go? Do we buy tickets, is the distance to cover significant? How is it done? On foot? Are there shuttles? Thanks
Hi. Yes, there’s a free shuttle that leaves from the parking lot next to the Sphinx entrance and stops at all the Pyramids, plus a stop for a panorama at the Panorama station. You can take it again, and it’s all very quick.
Hi. Yes, there’s a free shuttle that leaves from the parking lot next to the Sphinx entrance and stops at all the Pyramids, plus a stop for a panorama at the Panorama station. You can take it again, and it’s all very quick.
Hello everyone,
I confirm, but I never use it—it’s way cooler on foot, and you meet other people more easily. Plus, you can take your time. That said, it’s definitely the best solution for people who have difficulty getting around.
Have a great day!
Thoutmosis
Hello everyone,
I’ve never really paid attention to this since I never use them—I’m always on foot at over 70 years old (this Thursday, I’m heading to the Han Caves domain, and as usual, I’ll be walking the whole way). But given the number of big buses or smaller ones entering the site, I assume it’s because camels, horses, and carriages have been banned? Not a bad thing, all things considered, given how most owners treated their animals.
Thoutmosis
Camels, horses, and carriages are still around on the Giza plateau.
It’s been quite a few years since you last traveled to Egypt—buses have been there for a while now, so you should come back sometime soon...
Camels, horses, and carriages are still present on the Giza plateau.
It must’ve been quite a few years since you last traveled to Egypt—buses have been around for a while now. You should come back sometime...
I can confirm because I was there in 2025, and yes, the carriages and camels are still there for tourists’ enjoyment. An animal that’s well-treated by its owner will do its "job" without any health issues, which would be detrimental to its career. What about those illegal cockfights that are still happening in Belgium?
I can confirm because I was there in 2025, and yes, the carriages and camels are still there for tourists’ enjoyment. An animal that’s well-treated by its owner will do its "job" without any health issues, which would be detrimental to its career. What about those illegal cockfights that are still happening in Belgium?
Cockfighting is a global thing, and there are competitions with champion fighting roosters. And so many other animal-related contests... Have a good afternoon!
Cockfighting is global, and there are competitions with champion fighting roosters.
And so many other competitions involving animals... Have a good afternoon.
Thanks, but nothing new for me—I’ve worked with animals and in my Latin culture, which I still practice. My post about cockfighting was aimed at the person concerned in Belgium.
Thanks, but nothing new for me—I’ve worked with animals and in my Latin culture, which I still practice. My post about cockfighting was aimed at the person concerned in Belgium.
Hello everyone,
Thanks for the clarification—like usual in Egypt, plans change as often as shirts! Last time in 2022, it was supposed to be banned, and when we were there in 2018 (I already noticed the buses and even thought it was absurd), so they must’ve caved to pressure and reversed the decision. Too bad for the animals.
Thoutmosis
In 2018, are you sure about that? 🤔
Too bad about the animals—you’re all over the place with what you write.
Don’t pay any attention to Ms. Manondugard—she’s kind of an unintentional troll.
Don’t pay any attention to Mme Manondugard—she’s kind of an unintentional troll.
The *cagole* (sassy southern French girl) is telling you a few things, like how one minute you agree with me and say so, and the next you think the opposite and call me a troll. 😤 Poor little cliché victim you are (you’re gonna hit me with all of them about myself). 😏 Back to the topic you’re *intentionally* trolling , yes, the camels are well treated because they’re their owners’ livelihood (just like my horses, who, before spending hours on trail rides, got a bucket of carrots, pellets, apples, and spent their nights roaming free for kilometers, munching on fatty reeds, salt marshes, a bit of alfalfa, and lots of affection and kisses). 😊
And to save you from pulling out another cliché about how late my reply is, the *cagole* is settling scores with her exes in South America, where there’s a 7-hour time difference. 😜
The *cagole* (sassy southern French girl) is telling you a few things, like how one minute you agree with me and say so, and the next you think the opposite and call me a troll. 😤 Poor little cliché victim you are (you’re gonna hit me with all of them about myself). 😏 Back to the topic you’re *intentionally* trolling , yes, the camels are well treated because they’re their owners’ livelihood (just like my horses, who, before spending hours on trail rides, got a bucket of carrots, pellets, apples, and spent their nights roaming free for kilometers, munching on fatty reeds, salt marshes, a bit of alfalfa, and lots of affection and kisses). 😊
And to save you from pulling out another cliché about how late my reply is, the *cagole* is settling scores with her exes in South America, where there’s a 7-hour time difference. 😜
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I’m currently planning several trips to Morocco (Marrakech, Draa Valley, Merzouga) and I’m wondering about the reliability of data connections outside major urban centers.
Here’s what I’ve observed on the ground so far: - In cities (Marrakech, Agadir, Fez), 4G is excellent, including in the medina riads. - On the Tizi n'Tichka road and toward Ouarzazate, coverage remains decent, with a few dead spots here and there. - In Saharan areas (Merzouga, Chegaga), the connection becomes patchy: some camps get great reception, others none at all.
My specific questions: 1) On your recent trips, which operator (Maroc Telecom, inwi, Orange) gave you the best coverage in the Atlas and Sahara? 2) Have international eSIMs seemed as reliable as a local Moroccan SIM, or have you noticed a difference in speed in rural areas? 3) While trekking or driving a 4x4 in the desert, have you come across completely dead zones despite theoretical coverage?
I’m happy to share my own coverage notes if it helps, and I’ll gladly answer any questions about Morocco—I know it well.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best regards, Dennis
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It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
Hello to all Morocco lovers,
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie