Votre avis sur mon itinéraire en Thaïlande
by Dadoux
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je pars en Thailande pour la première fois pendant 5 semaines et j'aurai besoin de quelques conseils pour affiner mon voyage.
J'ai décidé de faire plusieurs villes, n'hésitez pas à me dire si il y a mieux.
Je commencerai par bangkok pendant 7 jours
Ensuite Sukhotai pendant 5 jours
Puis Mae Hong Song 7 jours
Et enfin Koh samui 10 jours
Est ce un bon choix? Connaissez vous de bons hotels pas trop cher puisque j'ai, pour 1 mois, un budget de 1500 euros tout compris.
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils si précieux
Bonjour,
Ca depend surtout de tes gouts! en tous cas, il n'y a que des endroits que j'aime bien dans ta liste. Perso, je placerais Bangkok a la fin. Tu seras tranquille a Bangkok pour prendre ton vol de retour.
5 jours a Sukhotai est assez long. Si tu es fana de vieilles pierres, ca va. Sinon, tu vas un peu tourner en rond! Va voir le parc Si Satchanalai, a 50 km de Sukhotai. C'est sympa.
Si tu veux t'eloigner des sentiers battus, tu peux faire le trajet Sukhotai-Mae Hong Son via Tak, Mae Sot et Mae Sariang. La route jusqu'a Mae Sot est superbe. Ensuite, je ne connais (encore😛) Mae Sot-Mae Sariang et la route Mae Sariang-Mae Hong Son est sympa egalement. Tu peux faire le retour via Pai/Chiang Mai.
Si tu voyages pas cher (c.a.d. bus/train + GH normale + repas dans un restau de rue Thai), 20 Euros/jours est confortable. Avec ton budget, tu peux meme te payer Chiang Mai-Ko Samui en avion pour gagner un peu de temps.
Bon voyage! 😎
Ca depend surtout de tes gouts! en tous cas, il n'y a que des endroits que j'aime bien dans ta liste. Perso, je placerais Bangkok a la fin. Tu seras tranquille a Bangkok pour prendre ton vol de retour.
5 jours a Sukhotai est assez long. Si tu es fana de vieilles pierres, ca va. Sinon, tu vas un peu tourner en rond! Va voir le parc Si Satchanalai, a 50 km de Sukhotai. C'est sympa.
Si tu veux t'eloigner des sentiers battus, tu peux faire le trajet Sukhotai-Mae Hong Son via Tak, Mae Sot et Mae Sariang. La route jusqu'a Mae Sot est superbe. Ensuite, je ne connais (encore😛) Mae Sot-Mae Sariang et la route Mae Sariang-Mae Hong Son est sympa egalement. Tu peux faire le retour via Pai/Chiang Mai.
Si tu voyages pas cher (c.a.d. bus/train + GH normale + repas dans un restau de rue Thai), 20 Euros/jours est confortable. Avec ton budget, tu peux meme te payer Chiang Mai-Ko Samui en avion pour gagner un peu de temps.
Bon voyage! 😎
bkk, vers la fin c'est mieux .. enfin pas vraiment mieux pour la carte visa ..
A voir dans l'ensemble tu reste pas mal de temps dans les villes .. la solution de louer une petite moto et voir la campagne ne te plais pas ?
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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- Quand tu seras a Sukhothai, essayes d’aller faire une escapade vers Kamphang Phet (quitte à y rester une nuit). Il y a le magnifique Parc Historique de Kamphaeng Phet, site classé également au Patrimoine Mondial de l’UNESCO
Salut,
Je te décris l'itinéraire qu'on a prévu de faire pour 3 semaines.. ca pourra te donner des pistes. 3/4 jours sur Bkk puis train de nuit pour chiang mai (3/4 jours pour la ville et ses alentours proches), ensuite direction Chieng rai en faisant une boucle par l'ouest (Mae Hong Son, Pai, Tha Ton puis Chiang rai..cette partie étant encore en cours de reflexion) . de Chian Rai Avion vers une ile pour 6 jours puis Bkk une nuit avant retour vers France.
sinon pour bangkok je trouve que 7 jours c'est beaucoup eu égard à la pollution, et à la fatigue liée aux grosses villes
pour le reste je ne peux pas t'aider, on n'est pas encore allé en Thailande...(mais bientôt😎)
bonne préparation!!
Je te décris l'itinéraire qu'on a prévu de faire pour 3 semaines.. ca pourra te donner des pistes. 3/4 jours sur Bkk puis train de nuit pour chiang mai (3/4 jours pour la ville et ses alentours proches), ensuite direction Chieng rai en faisant une boucle par l'ouest (Mae Hong Son, Pai, Tha Ton puis Chiang rai..cette partie étant encore en cours de reflexion) . de Chian Rai Avion vers une ile pour 6 jours puis Bkk une nuit avant retour vers France.
sinon pour bangkok je trouve que 7 jours c'est beaucoup eu égard à la pollution, et à la fatigue liée aux grosses villes
pour le reste je ne peux pas t'aider, on n'est pas encore allé en Thailande...(mais bientôt😎)
bonne préparation!!
"La seule chose vouée à l'échec est celle que l'on ne tente pas."
salut
pourquoi ne va tu pas a chiang mai ?
7 jours a mae hong son ! c'est un peu long sauf si tu explore la region a moto et encore !
sinon tu peu aller a Pai c'est a 3 heures de Mae hong son en bus et c'est sympa (un peu trop de baba cool mais c'est pas grave). La moto dans le nord ( mae hong son et pai ) c'est top car pas trop de circulation et il y a de beaux paysages
C'est assez équilibré.
Mais le mieux est de ne rien prévoir comme durée de séjour, et de prévoir des "marguerites" en fonction de la météo, des avis des autres voyageurs que tu vas peut-etre croiser.
"marguerites": tu es basée dans une ville (tu confie tes gros colis a la consigne une GH de confiance) et tu rayonne tout autour de la ville, soit pour la journée, soit pour plusieurs jours.
Le budget est largement suffisant (75.000 Bahts soit 2.500 Bahts par jour), en résidant dans des GH a 500 Bahts, ca te laisse 2000 Bahts pour le reste de la journée : de quoi faire quelques extras (excursions, hotels haut de gamme de temps en temps, cours de cuisine, massages (cours possibles)...
La moto c'est pas indispensable, trop risqué en Thailande, et presque jamais assurées. Il y a suffisamment de transports bon marché: samlors, tuk tuk, minibus, tours organisés...
Mais le mieux est de ne rien prévoir comme durée de séjour, et de prévoir des "marguerites" en fonction de la météo, des avis des autres voyageurs que tu vas peut-etre croiser.
"marguerites": tu es basée dans une ville (tu confie tes gros colis a la consigne une GH de confiance) et tu rayonne tout autour de la ville, soit pour la journée, soit pour plusieurs jours.
Le budget est largement suffisant (75.000 Bahts soit 2.500 Bahts par jour), en résidant dans des GH a 500 Bahts, ca te laisse 2000 Bahts pour le reste de la journée : de quoi faire quelques extras (excursions, hotels haut de gamme de temps en temps, cours de cuisine, massages (cours possibles)...
La moto c'est pas indispensable, trop risqué en Thailande, et presque jamais assurées. Il y a suffisamment de transports bon marché: samlors, tuk tuk, minibus, tours organisés...
je me permet un peut de rectifications .. les guest a 500 bt c'est deja le luxe .. on peut tres bien en trouver de tres charmantes a 150 bt ..
puis je ne suis pas d'accord avec .. <<
La moto c'est pas indispensable, trop risqué en Thaïlande, et presque jamais assurées. Il y a suffisamment de transports bon marché: samlors, tuk tuk, minibus, tours organisés...
La moto permets une liberté qui est tres appréciable .. comme partout dans le monde ( même en Belgique ) il faut etre prudent c'est tout .. tout le monde ne se casse pas la gueule en Thailande .. loin de l'a je crois que il y a un pourcentage de personnes qui sot tres satisfaite d'avoir louer une petite moto a 3 euros ou 4 (pour les flémards de la réduction ) que des personnes aillant fait un petit séjour dans une clinique ..
puisque on parle d'assurance .. il est vrai que rien est assurée .. mais . ni les samloos ni les tuks .. ni les mini bus le sont également .. en résumer je crois que on est jamais mieux servi que par soi même ..
je ne fait pas la pub pour la moto .. je respecte ceux qui veulent passer par les transport publics ... mais
je le redis la moto peut vous faire découvrir des coins et des personnes que les tours je pourront jamais le faire ..( c'est grâce a la moto que je me suis fait un ami .. du cote de Cheng - Rai .. un grand chef AKA dans ses montagnes .. ) endroit ou le tuk tuk ne passe pas .. et j'espère jamais les tours organisée ..
etre prudent sur les routes .. et vous aurais un tres bon séjour


« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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C'est un point de vue, Thuan. Je le partageais avant d'avoir eu plusieurs accidents (pourtant je suis motard, permis toutes catégories), et les traces sur la peau ne s'effaceront jamais. Il y a trop de pièges sur la route en Asie (sable, autres conducteurs, animaux, conduite a gauche, vitesses automatiques dangereuses en descente...)
Par contre jamais eu d'accident avec un transport en commun (mais c'est vrai que certains bus sont effrayant, tant ils sont vieux). Avantage des transports :toujours abrité de la pluie (saison de mousson) ou du soleil, suffisamment de place pour le sac à dos, et les autres bagagesj'ai rencontré, discuté et DEJEUNé avec beaucoup de gens DANS LES BUS, et pu regarder et photographier les paysages en passant (attitude beaucoup plus spontanée des personnages que si j'avis du descendre de la mob, préparer l'appareil), une petite sieste lorsque j'étais trop fatigué.j'ai pu découvrir des coutumes, comme le salut aux maisons d'esprits (coup de klaxon en passant), pas de soucis de permis de conduire ou d'antivols (déjà eu des problème en allant en boite: moto disparue!)pas de probleme lorsque l'on veut aller boire un petit coup.
Dadoux choisira, parce que c'est vrai que de temps en temps, le deux-roues (meme le vélo) permet plus souplesse et de liberté qu'un transport en commun.
NB: a propos de la "rectification" sur les GH a 150 Bahts, est-ce que cela contredit ma suggestion?
Par contre jamais eu d'accident avec un transport en commun (mais c'est vrai que certains bus sont effrayant, tant ils sont vieux). Avantage des transports :toujours abrité de la pluie (saison de mousson) ou du soleil, suffisamment de place pour le sac à dos, et les autres bagagesj'ai rencontré, discuté et DEJEUNé avec beaucoup de gens DANS LES BUS, et pu regarder et photographier les paysages en passant (attitude beaucoup plus spontanée des personnages que si j'avis du descendre de la mob, préparer l'appareil), une petite sieste lorsque j'étais trop fatigué.j'ai pu découvrir des coutumes, comme le salut aux maisons d'esprits (coup de klaxon en passant), pas de soucis de permis de conduire ou d'antivols (déjà eu des problème en allant en boite: moto disparue!)pas de probleme lorsque l'on veut aller boire un petit coup.
Dadoux choisira, parce que c'est vrai que de temps en temps, le deux-roues (meme le vélo) permet plus souplesse et de liberté qu'un transport en commun.
NB: a propos de la "rectification" sur les GH a 150 Bahts, est-ce que cela contredit ma suggestion?
Bonjour,
En Thailande, il parait bien de combiner les 2 moyens de transports: publics pour les trajets entre les villes (Bangkok-Chiang Mai en moto? glup...🤪) et moto/velo pour rayonner autour d'une ville. La circulation en Thailande (a part bangkok) n'est vraiment pas excessive et les conducteurs de voitures ont nettement plus l'habitude des 2 roues que le conducteur francais moyen!!! Le seul reel probleme est la conduite a gauche. Ensuite, il suffit de ne jamais doubler les Thais: eux savent a quelle vitesse on peut rouler 😉.
Je suis vraiment d'accord avec Thuan: la moto (c'est des 125/150/175 cm3 donc plus pres de la mobylette) apporte une liberte fantastique. on va ou on veut, on s'arrete quand on veut!!! Une cascade est indiquee sur un petit chemin: on le prend pour visiter! Un petit creux: on s'arrete pour acheter un kg de ramboutan et les deguster dans un endroit sympa! Un orage arrive? on se met a l'abri avec les autres motards et on attend que l'averse passe en buvant une singha (une petite ha!😉)
Si des gens ne se sentent pas a l'aise sur une moto, c'est sur qu'il est preferable de se cantonner aux transports publics. Mais la moto n'est pas dangereuse: la mere de famille de 30/40ans qui a les moyens va au marche en moto, fait 20 km pour aller voir des amis en moto (avec l'option 2 enfants derriere et le p'tit dernier ne sur les genoux 😕). Seule la facon de conduire peut etre dangereuse car inadaptee a la circulation thaie.
En Thailande, il parait bien de combiner les 2 moyens de transports: publics pour les trajets entre les villes (Bangkok-Chiang Mai en moto? glup...🤪) et moto/velo pour rayonner autour d'une ville. La circulation en Thailande (a part bangkok) n'est vraiment pas excessive et les conducteurs de voitures ont nettement plus l'habitude des 2 roues que le conducteur francais moyen!!! Le seul reel probleme est la conduite a gauche. Ensuite, il suffit de ne jamais doubler les Thais: eux savent a quelle vitesse on peut rouler 😉.
Je suis vraiment d'accord avec Thuan: la moto (c'est des 125/150/175 cm3 donc plus pres de la mobylette) apporte une liberte fantastique. on va ou on veut, on s'arrete quand on veut!!! Une cascade est indiquee sur un petit chemin: on le prend pour visiter! Un petit creux: on s'arrete pour acheter un kg de ramboutan et les deguster dans un endroit sympa! Un orage arrive? on se met a l'abri avec les autres motards et on attend que l'averse passe en buvant une singha (une petite ha!😉)
Si des gens ne se sentent pas a l'aise sur une moto, c'est sur qu'il est preferable de se cantonner aux transports publics. Mais la moto n'est pas dangereuse: la mere de famille de 30/40ans qui a les moyens va au marche en moto, fait 20 km pour aller voir des amis en moto (avec l'option 2 enfants derriere et le p'tit dernier ne sur les genoux 😕). Seule la facon de conduire peut etre dangereuse car inadaptee a la circulation thaie.
Ah Khrapka ... tout ce que tu viens de décrire à propos des avantages des (petites) motos, j'approuve à 100 % et quels bons souvenirs cela m'a rappelé !
Nous, en Thaïlande (mais on l'a fait aussi cette année au Cambodge), dès qu'on le peut (sauf à Bangkok bien sûr), on loue deux petites motos et ... à nous les chouettes ballades, les endroits inaccessibles aux bus ou trop loin à pied, les rencontres (quand on est en panne ou quand les motos ont soif), les petits marchés, les plages désertes, ...
On ne conduit pas trop vite, on met notre casque, on n'oublie pas notre permis (aie, cette année, on a eu une amende !) et puis voilà !
@ +, Sabaïdee
Nous, en Thaïlande (mais on l'a fait aussi cette année au Cambodge), dès qu'on le peut (sauf à Bangkok bien sûr), on loue deux petites motos et ... à nous les chouettes ballades, les endroits inaccessibles aux bus ou trop loin à pied, les rencontres (quand on est en panne ou quand les motos ont soif), les petits marchés, les plages désertes, ...
On ne conduit pas trop vite, on met notre casque, on n'oublie pas notre permis (aie, cette année, on a eu une amende !) et puis voilà !
@ +, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Thuan et toi avez raison en fait
même par temps de pluie et boue sur la "route" les thais roulent avec des chaines aux roues et çà passe...mais ils ont l'habitude
mais je pense qu'il faut faire très attention et l'accident ( ce qui arrive, définition latine ) peut survenir
perso, j'ai un pote qui a eu un grave accident sur chiang mai y a 2 ans, comas de 4j, perforation du thorax, pertes de sang et transfusion à la va vite...
un autre est mort au cambodge cette année
bah, je veux pas être rabajoie, mais je dis qu'il faut faire très attention en 2 roues en asie du sud est pour le coup
bien à vous tous
bien à vous tous
même par temps de pluie et boue sur la "route" les thais roulent avec des chaines aux roues et çà passe...mais ils ont l'habitude
Tu m'apprends quelque chose! Je n'ai jamais vu de moto avec des chaines, en Thailande ou ailleurs😮
un autre est mort au cambodge cette année bah, je veux pas être rabajoie, mais je dis qu'il faut faire très attention en 2 roues en asie du sud est pour le coup
Je ne parle que de la Thailande! Aux Philippines, je ne conseillerais a personne de louer une moto, a part a un endroit ou il n'y a pas une voiture/bus! J'ai deja loue des motos au Cambodge (Angkor) et ca ne m'a pas paru dangereux.
mais je pense qu'il faut faire très attention et l'accident ( ce qui arrive, définition latine ) peut survenir perso, j'ai un pote qui a eu un grave accident sur chiang mai y a 2 ans, comas de 4j, perforation du thorax, pertes de sang et transfusion à la va vite...
Les accidents en moto arrivent. La 1ere fois ou j'ai conduit une moto en Thailande, a Ko Samui, j'ai voulu etre plus malin que les thais et aller plus vite qu'eux, les doubler. Aucun probleme les 2 premiers jours puis, le 3eme jour, un virage avec du sable et arrivee sur le bas-cote, avec la moto encore debout par miracle!!! J'ai eu de la chance car j'aurais pu vraiment me faire mal. C'est entierement de ma faute car je roulais trop vite. En suivant simplement les 2 principes: 1) bien rouler a gauche 2) rouler a la meme vitesse que les thais; je peux t'assurer que les risques d'accident sont proches de 0. 🙂
Tu m'apprends quelque chose! Je n'ai jamais vu de moto avec des chaines, en Thailande ou ailleurs😮
un autre est mort au cambodge cette année bah, je veux pas être rabajoie, mais je dis qu'il faut faire très attention en 2 roues en asie du sud est pour le coup
Je ne parle que de la Thailande! Aux Philippines, je ne conseillerais a personne de louer une moto, a part a un endroit ou il n'y a pas une voiture/bus! J'ai deja loue des motos au Cambodge (Angkor) et ca ne m'a pas paru dangereux.
mais je pense qu'il faut faire très attention et l'accident ( ce qui arrive, définition latine ) peut survenir perso, j'ai un pote qui a eu un grave accident sur chiang mai y a 2 ans, comas de 4j, perforation du thorax, pertes de sang et transfusion à la va vite...
Les accidents en moto arrivent. La 1ere fois ou j'ai conduit une moto en Thailande, a Ko Samui, j'ai voulu etre plus malin que les thais et aller plus vite qu'eux, les doubler. Aucun probleme les 2 premiers jours puis, le 3eme jour, un virage avec du sable et arrivee sur le bas-cote, avec la moto encore debout par miracle!!! J'ai eu de la chance car j'aurais pu vraiment me faire mal. C'est entierement de ma faute car je roulais trop vite. En suivant simplement les 2 principes: 1) bien rouler a gauche 2) rouler a la meme vitesse que les thais; je peux t'assurer que les risques d'accident sont proches de 0. 🙂
Il faut etre un peut réaliste ... et voir les statistiques d'accident grave que subissent les étager .. ni plus ni moins que en Europe ..Thaïlande année 2002 .. 4 francais mort sur la route .. ( il n'y a pas de précision si c'était en moto ou non ) et 5 mots pas noix de coco .!!!!. oui se prélasser sous le cocotier tue plus que la route !
Dire que on est un professionnel de la route ( moto ) .. et que c'est dangereux .. c'est de manquer un peut de bon sensé, ou tu veut dire que il n'y a que toi pour conduire une moto en Thaïlande??
Puisque tu vent mes chiffres .. je conduis des motos depuis 20 ans .. en Thaïlande .. et tout les jours pratiquement .. ( je déteste l'auto .). je conduis partout dans BKK et en Thaïlande ).. et bien je n'ai eut le droit que a une chute minime .. du a une autre moto que portait une caisse un peut trop grosse .. c'est tout ..
j'ai eut des 750 .. et j'ai fait autant bkk le nord .. que la Malaise jusqu'à Singapour sans problème ..
c'est l'occasion d'enchaîner pour une petite pub .. pour ceux qui vont sur l'île de kho chang .. au débarcadère .. il y a une tres gentil damne qui est l'a a louer des petites motos .. ( 150 bt au lieux de 200) pour les membres de VF .. même en haute saison .. le fait de louer une moto la .. vous faite une bonne économie .. car les pic up chargent 80 bt en moyenne .. si on est 2 .. deja c'est moins cher .. et c'est pour 24 h ! je fait confiance aux personnes de vf d'être prudent et ne pas jouer aux 24 h du Mans en Thaïlande .. bon trip ..

c'est l'occasion d'enchaîner pour une petite pub .. pour ceux qui vont sur l'île de kho chang .. au débarcadère .. il y a une tres gentil damne qui est l'a a louer des petites motos .. ( 150 bt au lieux de 200) pour les membres de VF .. même en haute saison .. le fait de louer une moto la .. vous faite une bonne économie .. car les pic up chargent 80 bt en moyenne .. si on est 2 .. deja c'est moins cher .. et c'est pour 24 h ! je fait confiance aux personnes de vf d'être prudent et ne pas jouer aux 24 h du Mans en Thaïlande .. bon trip ..

« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Je trouve aussi qu'une semaine à Mae Hog Song, c'es trop. Par contre, un petit séjour à BKK en arrivant pour te remettre du tajet ey un petit avant de revenir pour remplir tes valises me paraissent intéressant. Si tu vas à Samui en Avion, le tarif de nuit est moins cher et tu gagneras une nuit d'hôtel. Mais comme tu as le temps, pourquoi pas le train et le bateau?
Samui est une île reposante, fais-en le tour.
Je suis deja allé 4 fois en Thai. J'adore.
Contrairement à beaucoup de gens, j'adore BKK, partant de là, tu peux voir pas mal.
Tu trouveras des photos sur mon site.
Mes photos vous aideront à vous décider
http://membres.lycos.fr/christtian/
les chaîne, j'ai vu çà dans le nord de la thailande au dessus de soopong
oui, rouler comme les thais c mieux
on est pas en 2005 ? 😉
pour les noix de cocos je savais, une gentille thai m'avait pris par le bras pour m'écarter des cocotiers alors que nous nous promenions 🙂
20 ans de conduite en moto et une chute minime tant mieux 🙂 et puis 20 ans d'habitude de conduite à BK c'est pas une semaine à la farang !
je ne veux pas dire que je suis seul à pouvoir piloter une moto en thailande, ni professionnel de la route (même si j'ai l'habitude de la moto) je dis qu'il faut être encore + prudent que chez soi, même si on se sent + libre en voyage, qui plus est sur une machine que l'on ne connait pas et parfois sans casque
tu vas te régaler en moto dans le Var !
bon vent à tous
tu vas te régaler en moto dans le Var !
bon vent à tous
Tout à fait d’accord avec les voyages à moto. Et pourquoi pas la voiture aussi. Pour 20 euros par jour, kilométrage illimité, c’est pas mal non plus si on a peur de tomber en moto.
Moi je déteste de dépendre des transports en commun qui vous limitent votre voyage dans un cadre. On ne peut pas s’éloigner des lignes de train, bus ou d’avion. Mais quand on a un véhicule pour soi, avec toujours le plein et un peu d’argent pour refaire le plein, on va ou on veut et quand il fait nuit, on couche ou on veut. C’est plus facile de trouver un logement dans n’importe quel coin que de trouver un transport en commun (qui vous amène ou vous voulez) à l’endroit où vous vous êtes perdu.
J’ai moi même conduit partout (Europe, Asie, Afrique, etc.) sans problème. Le maitre mot : Prudence.
En Thailande j’ai eu l’occasion d’organiser des tours (visites de la Thailande) en Harley-Davidson pour les groupes d’européens (10 à 20 motos). On a des règles de comportement et ça se passe toujours bien.
parfois sans casque toujours . + permis internationale a jour .. ( c;est gratuit pour les français )
je compte bien rouer en moto dans le Var .. déjà rien que e prix de l'essence ça rend malade ..
en Thailande le prix a la pompe est de 25 bt =50 cent !
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Peut-être une ptite idée à savoir si il n'y a que les ptites dames independantes qui louent les motos s'accordent entre elles pour pouvoir ramener la moto chez un autre loueur....ca m'etonnerait bcp mais la question m'effleure, un "non ce n'est bien evidemment pas possible, un peu de réalisme mon garcon" net et precis suffira, peut-être un concept de franchise? non jdéconne gardons nos merdes de confortabilité, nous ne voyageons pas pour mettre le monde à notre image mais pour connaître les differentes images du monde....bon je suis fatigué...
à bon entendeur!.......
vivre sa vie comme on le veut plutôt que comme on le peut...bien qu'on le fasse quand même un peu comme on le peut..
merci à tous pour vos conseils. Je vais arreter la le débat sur moto ou pas. Je pense qu'on en louera une et que grace à vos conseis nous serons très prudent.
Je pense donc que nous ne resterons pas 7 jours à Chiang mai meme nous irons faire les alentours.
Me conseiller vous de reserver les hotels tout de suite? Ou j'attends d'etre sur place?
Connaissez vous un hotel à koh samui avec des bungalow sur la plage...?
Mille merci à bientot
Pour Cheng Mai pas besoin de réserver .. mais avoir 2 a 3 bon plan ce n'est pas mal .. ( surtout pas les très bon plans du LP e R .. l'a tu sera déçu .. les bons plans VF !!!
les petites motos a Cheng -Mai sont légèrement moins cher !! 100 a 120 bt les 24 h, ., , partir avec le plein d'essence .. il n'y a pas des pompes partout ..
pour ce qui est de la sécurité .. le problème se trouve sur les nationales .. l'a les bus et camions sont les rois .. simplement bien rouler sur les bas cote .. et laisser les foncer ..


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Benjamin Disraeli
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Pour louer, tu as simplement besoin officiellement d'un permis international auto. Pratiquement, pas un loueur ne le demande. Mais de temps en temps, la police va te le demander... et ce sera une amende si tu ne l'as pas!!!
Egalement, si tu ne fais pas attention et que tu as un accident, sans permis, ca peux devenir un peu chaud! Donc, comme ca ne coute pas cher en France, c'est mieux de faire le permis avant de partir.
ah! mmhh (méditation...) mais si je n'ai déjà aucun permis en france (et oui train et bcp de pouce)! pas de permis auto et pas non plus moto...
je m'expose donc à des risques en cas de contrôle 🤪 (amende) et d'accident 🏴☠️ ( je préfère pas savoir) donc je vais devoir mediter un peu avant de louer un moto las bas...dommage! et pas de scooter sans permis ou de mobilette (pas trés adequate pour des longues distances) qui ne necesittent aucun permis internationale???😛
vivre sa vie comme on le veut plutôt que comme on le peut...bien qu'on le fasse quand même un peu comme on le peut..
comme le dit khrapka .. ce n'est pas le problème du loueur .. mais celui de la loi .. ( police bien sur ) mais en cas d'accident grave .. même si vous n'avez pas tord .. tout les tord serons sur votre dos .. c'est a savoir d'avance .. de la a faire de la paranoïa .. il y a un monde . rouler en vacances très prudents ..
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salut dadoux
je pense que bangkok s'apprecie mieux en fin de sejour (d'autant plus que tu devras y retourner pour l'avion)
perso
j'avais directement pris le train en sortant de l'aeroport; la gare se trouve juste en face pour aller à ayuttaya.
a ayuttaya on a louer un tuc tuc 2h et on en a profiter pour demander au chauffeur d'aller nous acheter une carte sim pour notre tel (5 euros environs) se qui nous a permis de faire nos reservations les journée pour le soir et de demander aux ghesthouses s' il pouvait venir nous chercher par la suite
puis on a réenchainer de suite en prenant un train pour visiter le parc national de kao yai (on y a vus plusieurs gibbons et meme un ours!!!!)(le soir un mec tres sympa de la guesthouse est venu nous chercher en voiture a la gare). on y a passer 2 nuits dont une soirée a faire un foot "improvise sur le bitume" avec les guides
ca peut sembler chaud d'enchainer comme ça mais je n'ai pas ressenti de fatigue (faut dire qu'on etait bien motivé)
de la on a pris un bus de pak chong pour sukkothai (je pense que 2 jours suffisent si tu veux adresse de guesthouse tres propre, sympa et pas cher je peu te retrouver le nom)
si tu vas du coté de chiang mai je te conseil plutot d'aller à Pai, un de mes meilleurs souvenir de thailande ou on a louer un scoot 125 pendant 3 jours (pas besoin de permis apparement et comme pas trop de monde sur les routes s'est nickel pour profiter des paysages sans danger...)
a pai je te recommande la ghesthouse pairadise pour sa superbe vue, son petit étang et ses bungalows tip top pour environ 10 euros pour2. seul inconvenient il ne font pas a bouffer mais vu que tu auras surement le scoot ça ne te poseras pas de pb
voila il faut que j'y aille, si tu as besoin d'autre renseignement n'hésite pas ....
Merci pour toutes ces infos. Je pense que je visiterai bangkok à la fin de mon séjour et je ferais ce que tu m'as conseillé. Ca m'a l'air très sympa.
Tu es parti longtemps? Et combien de fois en Thailande? Penses tu que Koh Samui pour le balnéaire est une bonne idée? Pour rassurer ma mère pourrais tu me dire si il y a encore la grippe aviaire? Si il faut que je prenne un traitement anti palu? De toute facon, pour éviter qu'elle me saoule j'irai voir mon médecin.
Merci encore et à bientot
Salut Dadoux,
Tu peux complètement rassurer ta mère au sujet de la grippe aviaire. Mon mari et moi nous rendons chaque année en Thaïlande (1 à 2 fois/an) et donc sommes allés en pleine "crise" de grippe aviaire. Nous avons mangé du poulet et pourtant ... nous sommes toujours là !
Bon voyage ! Si tu as besoin d'autres infos, n'hésites pas.
@+, Sabaïdee
Tu peux complètement rassurer ta mère au sujet de la grippe aviaire. Mon mari et moi nous rendons chaque année en Thaïlande (1 à 2 fois/an) et donc sommes allés en pleine "crise" de grippe aviaire. Nous avons mangé du poulet et pourtant ... nous sommes toujours là !
Bon voyage ! Si tu as besoin d'autres infos, n'hésites pas.
@+, Sabaïdee
J'ai le mal du pays pour un pays qui n'est pas le mien ... (A. David-Neel)
Le probleme de la grippe aviaire n'est absolument pas résolu.
Ce virus a été détecté en juillet 2005 en Siberie, les analyses sont en cours pour des cas suspects en Finlande (fin aout 2005). En Europe, les gouvernements s'inquietent et les approvisionnements en medicaments commencent, les volailles sont désormais nourries sous abri et non plus a l'air libre.
C'est bien de vouloir rassurer, mais il faut rester lucide et surveiller l'évolution de l'épidémie; le probleme ne vient pas de la consommation de poulet, puisqu'on sait que le virus ne résiste pas a la chaleur de cuisson. L'inquietude provient du fait que l'on ne sait toujours pas si la maladie peut muter et se propager entre humains.
Par ailleurs la Thailande sait détecter les désastres, mais ne sait pas prévenir et protéger ses populations: grippe aviaire arrivée en nov 2003, soigneusement cachée jusqu'en mars 2004. tsunami détecté une heure avant qu'il n'arrive, mais faillite du systeme d'alerte. Le rapport d'enquete reste classé secret. inondations en aout 2005: les stations en aval de Chiang Mai ont détecté la hausse excessive des cours d'eau, comment se fait il que les riverains n'aient pas pu protéger leurs biens a temps?
Ce n'est pas parce que je n'ai pas attrapé le sida, que j'en conclue que cela n'existe pas, ou que la maladie est bénigne.
Donc vigilance, surtout a l'écoute des médias moins conformistes (journal thailandais "The Nation") et de la presse étrangère.
Ce virus a été détecté en juillet 2005 en Siberie, les analyses sont en cours pour des cas suspects en Finlande (fin aout 2005). En Europe, les gouvernements s'inquietent et les approvisionnements en medicaments commencent, les volailles sont désormais nourries sous abri et non plus a l'air libre.
C'est bien de vouloir rassurer, mais il faut rester lucide et surveiller l'évolution de l'épidémie; le probleme ne vient pas de la consommation de poulet, puisqu'on sait que le virus ne résiste pas a la chaleur de cuisson. L'inquietude provient du fait que l'on ne sait toujours pas si la maladie peut muter et se propager entre humains.
Par ailleurs la Thailande sait détecter les désastres, mais ne sait pas prévenir et protéger ses populations: grippe aviaire arrivée en nov 2003, soigneusement cachée jusqu'en mars 2004. tsunami détecté une heure avant qu'il n'arrive, mais faillite du systeme d'alerte. Le rapport d'enquete reste classé secret. inondations en aout 2005: les stations en aval de Chiang Mai ont détecté la hausse excessive des cours d'eau, comment se fait il que les riverains n'aient pas pu protéger leurs biens a temps?
Ce n'est pas parce que je n'ai pas attrapé le sida, que j'en conclue que cela n'existe pas, ou que la maladie est bénigne.
Donc vigilance, surtout a l'écoute des médias moins conformistes (journal thailandais "The Nation") et de la presse étrangère.
Salut Kiti,
Entièrement d'accord avec toi. Je sais bien que le problème de la grippe aviaire n'est pas résolu (il paraîtrait même qu'il arrive dans nos contrées) et qu'il faut rester vigilant. Mais, tout comme Dadoux, j'ai une mère qui stresse à chaque fois que nous partons et qui s'imagine toujours le pire. Donc, ce que j'en disais, c'est que Dadoux puisse rassurer sa maman, c'est tout ! Cela dit, si on prend tout au mot, plus personne ne voyagera !
@ +, Sabaïdee
Entièrement d'accord avec toi. Je sais bien que le problème de la grippe aviaire n'est pas résolu (il paraîtrait même qu'il arrive dans nos contrées) et qu'il faut rester vigilant. Mais, tout comme Dadoux, j'ai une mère qui stresse à chaque fois que nous partons et qui s'imagine toujours le pire. Donc, ce que j'en disais, c'est que Dadoux puisse rassurer sa maman, c'est tout ! Cela dit, si on prend tout au mot, plus personne ne voyagera !
@ +, Sabaïdee
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
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We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
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Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!






