Voyage en Europe sur le thème la deuxième guerre mondiale
by Ejx1212
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, j'aimerais avoir votre avis sur un itinéraire qui me permettrait de voir Londre, Cracovie et Auschwitz, les plages du débarquement....enfin tous ce qui est possible de voir en 15 jours!!
en 15 jours ça va faire rapide
comme ça au débotté
paris puis Normandie :plages du débarquement (Caen le musée du mémorial) : plein de visites organisées des plages Amsterdam (la maison de Anne Franck) Cracovie : Auschwitz, l'usine Schindler et son admirable musée Varsovie : sur les traces de l’insurrection du ghetto
ça te remplit les 15 jours, si tu veux y joindre à chaque fois une petite visite desd villes hors-thème
Londres je ne connais pas ce qu'on peut voir sur cette thématique
comme ça au débotté
paris puis Normandie :plages du débarquement (Caen le musée du mémorial) : plein de visites organisées des plages Amsterdam (la maison de Anne Franck) Cracovie : Auschwitz, l'usine Schindler et son admirable musée Varsovie : sur les traces de l’insurrection du ghetto
ça te remplit les 15 jours, si tu veux y joindre à chaque fois une petite visite desd villes hors-thème
Londres je ne connais pas ce qu'on peut voir sur cette thématique
Bonjour,
ce n'est pas très clair pour moi si c'est un voyage prévu essentiellement sur le thème de la 2ème guerre mondiale avec des visites de musées, de sites de batailles et de lieux de mémoire, ou si c'est prévu de passer pas mal de temps à faire des visites classiques des différentes villes et régions. Et pas clair non plus si la question porte juste sur comment aller d'un endroit à l'autres, ou si c'est aussi sur ce qu'il faut visiter.
Pour la logistique, je dirais: - Londres-Normandie: train Eurostar vers Paris puis location de voiture pour la Normandie et retour à Paris (autrement il y a aussi un ferry de Portsmouth vers Caen) - vol Paris-Cracovie ( vol low cost à partir de Beauvais 'près' de Paris je crois ), bus ou location de voiture pour Auschwitz ? - vol retour depuis Cracovie via Varsovie, Londres, ou autre ville; à voir suivant les tarifs - éventuellement, aller à Amsterdam avec le train Thalys et de là avion vers Cracovie/Varsovie
Parmi les alternatives à visiter, je dirais la région de Bastogne/ ligne Maginot en Lorraine nord; et pourquoi pas le site de la grande bataille de Dukla à la frontière slovaquo-polonaise entre les allemands et les soviétques et leurs alliés.
ce n'est pas très clair pour moi si c'est un voyage prévu essentiellement sur le thème de la 2ème guerre mondiale avec des visites de musées, de sites de batailles et de lieux de mémoire, ou si c'est prévu de passer pas mal de temps à faire des visites classiques des différentes villes et régions. Et pas clair non plus si la question porte juste sur comment aller d'un endroit à l'autres, ou si c'est aussi sur ce qu'il faut visiter.
Pour la logistique, je dirais: - Londres-Normandie: train Eurostar vers Paris puis location de voiture pour la Normandie et retour à Paris (autrement il y a aussi un ferry de Portsmouth vers Caen) - vol Paris-Cracovie ( vol low cost à partir de Beauvais 'près' de Paris je crois ), bus ou location de voiture pour Auschwitz ? - vol retour depuis Cracovie via Varsovie, Londres, ou autre ville; à voir suivant les tarifs - éventuellement, aller à Amsterdam avec le train Thalys et de là avion vers Cracovie/Varsovie
Parmi les alternatives à visiter, je dirais la région de Bastogne/ ligne Maginot en Lorraine nord; et pourquoi pas le site de la grande bataille de Dukla à la frontière slovaquo-polonaise entre les allemands et les soviétques et leurs alliés.
photos de voyage: " https://www.flickr.com/photos/franciswalter06/albums"
Bonjour,
je suggère Berlin comme lieu emblématique et centre de gravité du voyage : Reichstag, mémorial aux Juifs assassinés...
Le parcours pourrait être Cracovie - Lodz - Gdansk - Berlin - Amsterdam - plages du débarquement - finir à Londres si vous voulez.
Michel
Bonjour, j'aimerais avoir votre avis sur un itinéraire qui me permettrait de voir Londre, Cracovie et Auschwitz, les plages du débarquement....enfin tous ce qui est possible de voir en 15 jours!!
je suggère Berlin comme lieu emblématique et centre de gravité du voyage : Reichstag, mémorial aux Juifs assassinés...
Le parcours pourrait être Cracovie - Lodz - Gdansk - Berlin - Amsterdam - plages du débarquement - finir à Londres si vous voulez.
Michel
Bonjour, j'aimerais avoir votre avis sur un itinéraire qui me permettrait de voir Londre, Cracovie et Auschwitz, les plages du débarquement....enfin tous ce qui est possible de voir en 15 jours!!
Bonjour,
j'ai fait une ébauche d'itinéraire : Montréal-Londre (4 nuits) ensuite eurotunel pour Calais , location de voiture pour aller a Dunkerke, Calais, Musée du blockhaus d'éperlecques, La Coupole près de Wizerne, Boulogne sur Mer, Le Havre -Honfleur, Cabourg, Caen, voir des Bocage et visite avec guide en JEEP Willis, bien sur visite des plages du D-Day et cimétière canadien , américain et allemand...Le Mont Saint-Michel 1 nuit, Château de chambord et Chenonceau et Versaille, Paris CDG pour Cracovie 3 nuits visite Auschwitz et repos..retour pour Montréal. Nous aimons bien les beaux hôtels confortables.Reste à peaufiner les peaufiner les visites.
J'attend vos suggestions et commentaires ...Merçi pour votre aide !!!Tout vos commentaires sont importants !
j'ai fait une ébauche d'itinéraire : Montréal-Londre (4 nuits) ensuite eurotunel pour Calais , location de voiture pour aller a Dunkerke, Calais, Musée du blockhaus d'éperlecques, La Coupole près de Wizerne, Boulogne sur Mer, Le Havre -Honfleur, Cabourg, Caen, voir des Bocage et visite avec guide en JEEP Willis, bien sur visite des plages du D-Day et cimétière canadien , américain et allemand...Le Mont Saint-Michel 1 nuit, Château de chambord et Chenonceau et Versaille, Paris CDG pour Cracovie 3 nuits visite Auschwitz et repos..retour pour Montréal. Nous aimons bien les beaux hôtels confortables.Reste à peaufiner les peaufiner les visites.
J'attend vos suggestions et commentaires ...Merçi pour votre aide !!!Tout vos commentaires sont importants !
Hello,
Ton programme est dense. Si je comprends bien, tu envisages de rester 4 nuits à Londres, 3 à Cracovie, ce qui signifie que tu comptes consacrer une petite semaine à ton parcours français, est-ce bien ça ? Une virée dans le Nord, une autre en Normandie puis la visite des châteaux (dont deux en Val de Loire) en si peu de temps, à mon humble avis ton programme est trop chargé. Il va malheureusement falloir faire des concessions. 😉
A Londres, tu peux visiter la Churchill War Rooms. Et puisque tu restes en Angleterre plusieurs jours, pourquoi ne pas pousser jusqu'à Bletchley Park à 1h30 de Londres ? http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2015/01/30/a-bletchley-park-l-histoire-secrete-de-l-invention-de-l-informatique_4566687_4408996.html
Ton programme est dense. Si je comprends bien, tu envisages de rester 4 nuits à Londres, 3 à Cracovie, ce qui signifie que tu comptes consacrer une petite semaine à ton parcours français, est-ce bien ça ? Une virée dans le Nord, une autre en Normandie puis la visite des châteaux (dont deux en Val de Loire) en si peu de temps, à mon humble avis ton programme est trop chargé. Il va malheureusement falloir faire des concessions. 😉
A Londres, tu peux visiter la Churchill War Rooms. Et puisque tu restes en Angleterre plusieurs jours, pourquoi ne pas pousser jusqu'à Bletchley Park à 1h30 de Londres ? http://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article/2015/01/30/a-bletchley-park-l-histoire-secrete-de-l-invention-de-l-informatique_4566687_4408996.html
Bonjour,
Amsterdam (la maison de Anne Franck)
Franchement, bof, le lieu est très émouvant quand on a lu le fameux journal, mais il n'y a pas grand chose à voir et le lieu est surexploité sur le plan touristique (tarif exagéré et longue file en saison). 😕 A voir en passant là-bas mais ne vaut pas le déplacement exprès à mon avis.
Pour un tel thème et avec ce court séjour, je dirais indéniablement :
- en France les plages du débarquement et peut-être le mémorial de Caen. Oradour-sur-Glane est forcément émouvant et parlant mais c'est peu accessible sur ce parcours.
- en Pologne Gdańsk, où tout a commencé (mais pas vraiment de choses à voir sur ce thème spécifique), Cracovie et ses musées (musée Schindler, et l'ancienne prison de la Gestapo rue Pomorska), à l'évidence Auschwitz, et Varsovie (musée juif Polin, musée de l'Insurrection).
- en Allemagne, à minima Berlin, qui était tout de même le cœur du 3e Reich et où il reste plein de traces de ce passé récent...
Plein d'autres lieux sont à découvrir, par exemple dans le Nord ou l'Ouest de la France (blockhaus d'Eperlecques et d'autres dans le Pas-de-Calais, cité d'Aleth à Saint-Malo, musée de l'Armée aux Invalides et musée de la Libération à Paris...).
Voilà quelques pistes. Avec plus de temps, le musée de la Reddition à Reims est également à voir, rien d’impressionnant mais c'est tout de même là que ce drame s'achève... et on passe à autre chose avec plus de légèreté en dégustant un bon verre de champagne. 😛
Amsterdam (la maison de Anne Franck)
Franchement, bof, le lieu est très émouvant quand on a lu le fameux journal, mais il n'y a pas grand chose à voir et le lieu est surexploité sur le plan touristique (tarif exagéré et longue file en saison). 😕 A voir en passant là-bas mais ne vaut pas le déplacement exprès à mon avis.
Pour un tel thème et avec ce court séjour, je dirais indéniablement :
- en France les plages du débarquement et peut-être le mémorial de Caen. Oradour-sur-Glane est forcément émouvant et parlant mais c'est peu accessible sur ce parcours.
- en Pologne Gdańsk, où tout a commencé (mais pas vraiment de choses à voir sur ce thème spécifique), Cracovie et ses musées (musée Schindler, et l'ancienne prison de la Gestapo rue Pomorska), à l'évidence Auschwitz, et Varsovie (musée juif Polin, musée de l'Insurrection).
- en Allemagne, à minima Berlin, qui était tout de même le cœur du 3e Reich et où il reste plein de traces de ce passé récent...
Plein d'autres lieux sont à découvrir, par exemple dans le Nord ou l'Ouest de la France (blockhaus d'Eperlecques et d'autres dans le Pas-de-Calais, cité d'Aleth à Saint-Malo, musée de l'Armée aux Invalides et musée de la Libération à Paris...).
Voilà quelques pistes. Avec plus de temps, le musée de la Reddition à Reims est également à voir, rien d’impressionnant mais c'est tout de même là que ce drame s'achève... et on passe à autre chose avec plus de légèreté en dégustant un bon verre de champagne. 😛
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Oui.... Passer a autre chose .
Je ne suis pas allee a Auschwitz lors de mon sejour a Cravovie.
Je me rappelle de ma visite du Struthof ds les vosges, seul camp d extermination en France.. Ca me suffit.🏴☠️😕
Nous sommes allés à Auschwitz, compte rendu en images ICI.
Cela suffira peut-être aux âmes trop sensibles, mais je pense qu'il faut voir ce lieu une fois dans sa vie. Car on a devant soi, de manière brutalement réelle, ce qu'on lit dans les livres ou voit dans des films, mais qui restent du cinéma aussi géniaux soient-ils, comme "Le Pianiste" à voir absolument.
La montagne de valises ou de chaussures qu'on voit montre toute l'étendue du crime... Le plus impressionnant est peut-être la liste très sobre de noms inscrite dans le pavillon néerlandais : plus que des chiffres, on voit cette liste presque sans fin de noms de déportés.
Comme je le mentionne dans l'article, il faut vraiment lire la BD "Maus", réalisée par le fils d'un couple de déportés qui a survécu aux camps (quoique détruits psychologiquement, on s'en doute). Les Juifs y sont représentés comme des souris (prises au piège) et les Allemands en chats (je ne pouvais pas ne pas lire ça à l'évidence). 😐
J'en profite enfin pour signaler une expo intéressante, Shoah et bande dessinée, au mémorial de la Shoah à Paris. C'est gratuit et ça dure jusqu'en janvier 2018. 🙂
Cela suffira peut-être aux âmes trop sensibles, mais je pense qu'il faut voir ce lieu une fois dans sa vie. Car on a devant soi, de manière brutalement réelle, ce qu'on lit dans les livres ou voit dans des films, mais qui restent du cinéma aussi géniaux soient-ils, comme "Le Pianiste" à voir absolument.
La montagne de valises ou de chaussures qu'on voit montre toute l'étendue du crime... Le plus impressionnant est peut-être la liste très sobre de noms inscrite dans le pavillon néerlandais : plus que des chiffres, on voit cette liste presque sans fin de noms de déportés.
Comme je le mentionne dans l'article, il faut vraiment lire la BD "Maus", réalisée par le fils d'un couple de déportés qui a survécu aux camps (quoique détruits psychologiquement, on s'en doute). Les Juifs y sont représentés comme des souris (prises au piège) et les Allemands en chats (je ne pouvais pas ne pas lire ça à l'évidence). 😐
J'en profite enfin pour signaler une expo intéressante, Shoah et bande dessinée, au mémorial de la Shoah à Paris. C'est gratuit et ça dure jusqu'en janvier 2018. 🙂
https://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr
Les voyages à petit prix d'une souris en Europe (plus de 20.000 photos, des plans, conseils pratiques sur les transports, les formalités, les vols low cost, la location avec airbnb...)
Les voyages à petit prix d'une souris en Europe (plus de 20.000 photos, des plans, conseils pratiques sur les transports, les formalités, les vols low cost, la location avec airbnb...)
Il est possible que nous partions 18 jours en Septembre..
Ça reste chaud. Entre les aéroports, les distances à parcourir, les visites, les repas, les pauses (il va bien falloir en faire), ton projet me paraît impossible à réaliser. Dans des conditions satisfaisantes j'entends. Chambord, Chenonceau, Versailles à suivre... ça ne fait pas un peu beaucoup de châteaux ? 😉 Avec un timing aussi serré, si l'on y ajoute le Mont-Saint-Michel, tu comptes visiter deux sites par jour ? Il serait bien d'avoir l'avis d'autres internautes sur la faisabilité de ton projet. Suis-je la seule à penser qu'il est beaucoup trop lourd ?
@ Cambrousse
Je me rappelle de ma visite du Struthof ds les vosges, seul camp d extermination en France.. Ca me suffit.
Je me permets un petit rectificatif 😊. Le Struthof n'est pas un camp d'extermination, c'est un camp de concentration. Les camps d'extermination se trouvent en Pologne. Ce qui n'enlève rien à l'horreur que peut susciter un tel lieu bien entendu. D'autre part, le Struthof se trouve en Alsace, pas en Lorraine 😉.
Ça reste chaud. Entre les aéroports, les distances à parcourir, les visites, les repas, les pauses (il va bien falloir en faire), ton projet me paraît impossible à réaliser. Dans des conditions satisfaisantes j'entends. Chambord, Chenonceau, Versailles à suivre... ça ne fait pas un peu beaucoup de châteaux ? 😉 Avec un timing aussi serré, si l'on y ajoute le Mont-Saint-Michel, tu comptes visiter deux sites par jour ? Il serait bien d'avoir l'avis d'autres internautes sur la faisabilité de ton projet. Suis-je la seule à penser qu'il est beaucoup trop lourd ?
@ Cambrousse
Je me rappelle de ma visite du Struthof ds les vosges, seul camp d extermination en France.. Ca me suffit.
Je me permets un petit rectificatif 😊. Le Struthof n'est pas un camp d'extermination, c'est un camp de concentration. Les camps d'extermination se trouvent en Pologne. Ce qui n'enlève rien à l'horreur que peut susciter un tel lieu bien entendu. D'autre part, le Struthof se trouve en Alsace, pas en Lorraine 😉.
on y trouve tout de même un four crématoire. même si cela n'a pas la même ampleur qu'Auschwitz ou d'autres sinistres camps.
22000 morts dans les fosses...
d'autre part, je n'ai pas parlé de Lorraine ....
Je me rappelle de ma visite du Struthof ds les vosges
Le département des Vosges est en Lorraine. Mais je viens de réaliser que tu parlais sans doute du massif des Vosges. Mea culpa donc.
Le département des Vosges est en Lorraine. Mais je viens de réaliser que tu parlais sans doute du massif des Vosges. Mea culpa donc.
bref 😕
Je suis d'accord avec Marie, le programme est un peu trop chargé.
Je ne vois pas ce que viennent faire Chambord et Chenonceau, qui ne sont pas dans le thème du voyage et représentent un détour conséquent.
« Ne soyons plus anglais ni français ni allemands. Soyons européens. Ne soyons plus européens, soyons hommes. - Soyons l'humanité. Il nous reste à abdiquer un dernier égoïsme : la patrie. » Victor Hugo
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Salut
Pourquoi étalez vous votre circuit sur 4 pays en 15 jours alors que vous pourriez vous faire un thème deuxième guerre mondiale uniquement en France. Et y'a de quoi faire: plages du débarquement, cimetières militaires, musées, oradour sur glane, ligne Maginot, Struthof........
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So here I am, going in circles because I don’t know enough about French cities. All my friends love quiet, small provincial towns or even living alone in the mountains.
A couple told me about Montreuil, but they were there a long time ago, so I don’t know what it’s like now. They said there was activity, that the city was pretty big, and that there was a good nightlife scene (bars, nightclubs, all kinds of outings), plus the metro (which would make it easy to get to Paris or for people to come to Montreuil from Paris).
So, for now, Montreuil is my only option, but I’m scared and would love other opinions (on Montreuil and other possibilities).
Sorry for the novel, but this is *really* important to me—my future depends on it, in a way ^^'
Thanks so much for reading and for any help you can give!
Hello,
At the beginning of June, we’ll be spending a few days in Sardinia. We’ve decided to return via a detour through Corsica and want to make the crossing from Santa Teresa di Gallura to Bonifacio (2 people and 1 car). There are currently two companies, Moby Lines and Ichnusa Lines, that operate this route. Unfortunately, we don’t know either of them at all. The prices and crossing times are pretty much the same, and we’d like to choose the most reliable one (punctuality/risk of cancellation for a booked crossing) and, if possible, the more comfortable of the two. Could you share your thoughts on either company to help us decide? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Have a great day.
Hi everyone,
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
Hi,
We’re heading to Corsica at the end of July, and after a 4-night stay in Zonza, I’d like to head toward Cargèse or Porto to visit the Calanques de Piana. What’s the actual travel time? Maps says 2h40/3h, but I’m wondering if that’s really accurate.
How long does it take to get back to Ajaccio Airport afterward?
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi,
I saw that the first tram from Pont du Garigliano leaves at 5:15 AM, and by taking the RER B at Cité Universitaire afterward, I’d arrive at Roissy at 6:30 AM—2 hours before my international flight.
Is this doable, or not? If anyone’s done this before, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re about to finalize a booking for late July near the Pink Granite Coast. We’re wondering about the traffic jams that could make our trip miserable, given how famous the place is—we’re excited to see it too. Could it get pretty bad?
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
In June 2020, my wife and I will be visiting Brittany and Normandy. We’d especially love to explore villages that aren’t part of the usual tourist routes. We enjoy traveling off the beaten path.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
Hello everyone,
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Hi there,
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
Hi everyone,
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
Hi,
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
Hi everyone,
We’ve wanted to visit Alsace for a long time to see the famous and well-known "Christmas markets."
Apart from the one in Strasbourg, could you give us some tips on other markets (Sélestat, Colmar, Mulhouse)?
Also, any recommendations for hotels, restaurants, or things to see, etc.?
I know my question is a bit "basic," but we really need some expert advice.
Thanks in advance to all.
Hi there,
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
How do I get to ibis budget coeur orly from the Metro Line 14 Orly station on foot
We’ll be back from a river cruise with a stop in Strasbourg for just the afternoon and evening. We’d like to spend the afternoon in either Colmar or Kaysersberg and then return to Strasbourg for dinner and a stroll afterward. I’d love your advice on which spot—Colmar or Kaysersberg—you’d recommend. I’ve noticed there’s a bus line 145 that runs from Colmar to Kaysersberg, taking about 40 minutes and costing around 5 €.
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Hi there,
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
Hi
Does anyone know a reliable and affordable shuttle service from Roissy airport to Lille train station?
I know there are TGVs, but we’d like to avoid a long wait at Roissy station.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
BD
Hi there,
We’re heading to Forcalquier as a couple and would love to explore the Valensole area, including the Verdon Gorge, etc. We’ll be there for 5 days, so I’d like to put together a little rundown of things to see, plus the best tips—what to avoid, what to recommend, restaurants, and so on.
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone, after a stay in the South and one in the North, I’m planning a mini road trip in Corsica (Bastia-Bastia) in June to explore places I haven’t seen yet. Since we’re heading to the mountains later this year, we’ve deliberately skipped the Corsican mountains. Could you share your thoughts and, most importantly, suggest things to see? We love nature, reasonable hikes, peaceful spots, and small villages. No cities. No boat excursions (yes, that includes Piana and Scandola). We already know the area between Bastia and Calvi.
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure



