Bonjour.
voila, je suis super tenté pour faire un voyage avec le train shongololo, mais j'aimerais avoir des avis. Est ce que vous connaissez ? Certains d'entre vous ont t'il deja fait ce voyage ? Est ce que la cabine "or" suffit, car la cabine "emeraude" parait bien, mais est 2 fois plus chere...?
Je me pose aussi des questions concernant les etapes, car moi j'aime voir les choses, et je me demande si on descend souvent du train.....
Je vois que personne ne t'a répondu...🙁
Finalement, as-tu fait ce voyage ?
dans un catalogue de Nouvelles-Frontières, ce circuit est détaillé et me plaît..
sur le Net, rien de précis quant aux excursions....je ne sais pas oû chercher l'info complète..avec prix...si tu peux m'aider..je prévois ce voyage début 09...😇
Bonjour, j'arrive sûrement un peu tard pour répondre à vos questions, j'espère que vous avez fait ce merveilleux voyage et si vous voulez en discuter, échanger des photos et des impressions je suis à votre disposition. Régine.
Eh non, je n'ai pas fait ce beau voyage..NF l'a supprimé de son programme...😠
Pour fin septembre 2011, je tente de former un groupe de 6 pour un circuit en Ouzbéquistan 20 nuits avec tour opérator local.. prix sympa... Si ça vous dit....🤪
Bonjour,
c'est avec plaisir que je répondrai à toutes vos questions.
Nous avons fait un superbe voyage sur le shongololo "la croix du Sud" et je ne peux que vous le recommander.
Ce qu'il faut savoir :
On est dans le train le soir au retour des excursions, en fait c'est le train qui vient nous rejoindre suivant la distance parcourue dans la journée ou si les excursions sont aux alentours le train reste en gare exemple à Victoria Falls, Maputo etc...
N'attendez pas un train de très grand luxe, j'ai entendu des râleurs qui se plaignaient ! mais c'est propre et l'expérience est très amusante. Nous avions pris les cabines les moins chères, 2 couchettes avec un passage au milieu, une vraie cabine de train ! (très sympa), des moustiquaires en bois à clairvoies, un petit coffre fort, quelques porte manteau qui nous permettaient de sécher notre linge lavé sous la douche, c'était un peu le camping mais ça faisait parti du charme du voyage. Nous avions une douche et des toilettes communes que nous partagions avec un seul couple, donc pas d'attente juste un peu d'organisation.
Le soir on rentre des excursions, le temps de prendre une douche, passer au salon prendre un rafraichissement, discuter avec tous les voyageurs (australiens, canadiens, américains, allemands, français et belges en majorité) une bonne ambiance se crée, environ une soissantaine de personnes, on finit par tous se connaître et rire ensemble, c'est très décontracté, les vacances quoi ! Deux services pour le dîner 19h et 20h, le service est sympathique et des menus variés et trés goutus sont servis. Le matin, c'est un buffet trés varié qui est proposé, puis départ dans les Mercédès.
Le voyage peut se faire du Sud vers le Nord ou l'inverse. Nous avions choisi de finir par le Nord, les chutes grandioses de Victoria. Je vous recommande le survol en U.L.M. c'est sensationnel.
A votre disposition pour d'autres renseignements, allez sur le site shongololo.com, vous pouvez réserver directement avec eux sans passer par une agence mais je crois qu'avec nouvelles frontières nous avons eu toutes les excursions incluses pour le même prix. Régine.
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Bonjour,
J'ai vu sur ce site, que vous avez fait ce voyage en train SHONGOLOLO.
Je viens, de lancer une discussion sur mon compte: voir AFRIQUE DU SUD, SHONGOLOLO.
Pouvez vous me donner quelques conseils, (si l'on parle français, si les guides anglophones savent eux aussi un peu de français, etc etc....)
Merci d'avance.
José QUINET
Bonjour,
Comme j'ai supposé dans des précédents messages, vous avez été dans le Shongololo.
Je vais y aller au mois de juin 2014, est ce que l'on parle un peu français dans ce train, et en excursions.
Effectivement, le voyage et le message datent un peu :-). On verra bien. Je viens de voir le superbe reportage-feuilleton sur le JT de France 2 sur le Shongololo et c'est vrai que ça fait envie !! Nous qui ne sommes pas des adeptes des voyages organisés, on se laisserait bien tenter.
Quelle est la meilleure période ? plutôt ce qui correspondrait à l'hiver ou le début du printemps chez nous, non ? car en juillet, c'est l'hiver austral, là bas.
Je vais un peu plus me renseigner sur le site shongololo.com, mais votre témoignage me plait bien. Est-ce que l'on bénéficie d'explications en français dans les visites des réserves naturelles...ou faut-il réviser son anglais avant de partir ?
A bientôt.
Bonjour, j'ai fait ce voyage en avril, la température était entre 25 et 30 degrés. Nous avons eu 2 ou 3 averses bienvenues pour nous rafraîchir.
Chaque Mercedes était conduit par un guide, les voitures sont donc organisées par langue. Pour notre part notre guide Thomas parlait français et connaissait beaucoup de dialectes africains. Dans notre groupe il y avait 8 français 2 belges et 2 canadiens. Les autres voitures étaient australiens, allemands et américains. A bord du train la langue est principalement l'anglais. Je ne suis pas très douée pour l'anglais mais mes bases scolaires m'ont largement suffit.
Effectivement ce voyage en train semble bien attrayant et nous aimerions savoir par quel Tour Operator êtes vous passés.
Sinon, Cezembre, pour le climat, je pense que Octobre novembre est une bonne période. Pour notre part, nous sommes allés en Afrique du Sud en Août et il faut reconnaitre que le matin était quelquefois un peu frais !
Lorsque tu fais quelque chose, sache que tu auras contre toi ceux qui voulaient faire la même chose, ceux qui voulaient faire le contraire et l'immense majorité de ceux qui ne voulaient rien faire. CONFUCIUS
Bonjour, je suis partie en 2004, l'inscription direct sur le site shongololo.com était au même prix que Nouvelles Frontières, excursions comprises. Le voyage a été supprimé je crois quelques temps sûrement à cause des événements qui ont eu lieux au Mozambique. Allez voir sur N.F. si il est proposé.
Lorsque tu fais quelque chose, sache que tu auras contre toi ceux qui voulaient faire la même chose, ceux qui voulaient faire le contraire et l'immense majorité de ceux qui ne voulaient rien faire. CONFUCIUS
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I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
If any of you have already taken the Tren Maya, could you tell me if you’ve run into any difficulties upon arrival when trying to reach your destination city by bus: Valladolid, Mérida, Campeche, or Xpuhil?
Hi everyone,
First of all, thank you for all the valuable information you share—it’s really helpful.
My husband and I are heading to South Korea from September 19 to October 6. We know the timing might not be ideal because of Chuseok, but for various reasons, we didn’t have other date options. Plus, this period coincides with some festivals we’ve been eager to check out: the Andong Mask Dance Festival, the Jinju Lantern Festival, and the Hwaseong Festival in Suwon.
Here’s our tentative itinerary:
09/19: Arrival in Seoul
09/20: Bus to Sokcho – explore the city or short hike
09/21: Seoraksan Park
09/22: Return to Seoul
09/23–09/26: Seoul
09/27: Bus or train to Andong – explore the city
09/28: Hahoe
09/29–10/01: Gyeongju
10/01–10/03: Busan
10/03–10/04: Jinju
10/05: Bus/train to Suwon
10/06: Suwon
So here’s my question: Given that several of our trips fall during or around festivals, will it be possible to book bus/train tickets once we’re there, or is there a risk they’ll already be sold out? Specifically for Seoul-Andong, Busan-Jinju, and Jinju-Suwon.
I was thinking of booking everything on our first day in Seoul.
And if it’s better to plan ahead, how should we go about it? I can’t seem to access the Korail (letskorail) or Kobus websites.
Thanks in advance for your answers and help—and sorry for the long post! :)
I’m planning our very first trip to mainland France in January 2027. There’ll be 2 adults and 2 kids, and we’ll mostly be traveling by train.
Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
Rouen (Normandy)
Lyon
Aix-les-Bains (with day trips to Annecy and Geneva)
Saint-Gervais-les-Bains (with Chamonix and a day in Aosta)
Back to Paris
Do you think this itinerary is well-balanced? Any tips, must-see spots, or mistakes to avoid for a first-time visit?
Hi! I’d like to make stops across France, starting from Reims, and travel by train using the Intercités. I want to discover the landscapes and picturesque villages, and make some stops along the way. Could you give me some tips? Thanks!
I’m planning a family trip in a year. Our goal: traveling to China (and maybe Hong Kong) by train.
I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
- How far in advance to book / any potential difficulties with reservations
- Whether there are PASS systems (or equivalent) between countries and/or if some tickets allow stopovers, meaning you can hop on and off as you please
- Day trains vs. night trains (the latter option lets you explore cities between two legs of the journey)
- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
A huge thank you to anyone who can share some info or experiences. It’s also a great opportunity to chat about adventure after (way too) many years away from this forum.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.