Voyage à moto en Iran
by Whitespirit3
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous
Je projette un voyage en Iran pour un départ au printemps 2019, la route pour l'aller sera par la Grèce et la Turquie.
Mon problème est le retour car je n'ai pas d'info pour faire le voyage retour par le nord de la mer noire en traversant notamment la Géorgie, l'Arménie l'Ukraine…
Je suis preneur de tous les conseils et avis pour la traversée de ces pays.
Par avance, je vous en remercie
Michel
Merci Meg pour cette information
sais tu me dire si le passage par la frontière entre la Géorgie et la Russie est sur car on entend tout sur le sujet (Tchétchénie…)
Bonjour
J'envisage avec un ami, de faire un voyage similaire durant la même période que vous. Je suis donc à l'écoute et à la recherche de toutes informations, notamment en ce qui concerne le carnet de douane pour le passage de la moto.
Obligatoire ou pas ?
Qui en fixe le montant et sur quelle base ?
Et quand est il pour les traversées des autres pays ?
Merci par avance et bonne préparation.
bonjour,
le CPD c'est 150% de la valeur du véhicule pour l'Iran
voir sur le site de l'automobile club de France pour les conditions, coûts et délais
"indispensable" pour l'Iran... sauf utiliser les services de certains (payants). de tte façon, l'argent déposé à L'AC sont rendus au retour en France.
L'intérêt est la facilité des passages de frontière avec un véhicule et la garantie qu'il ne sera pas vendu sur place.
Dominique
Dominique
Bonjour et merci pour votre réponse.
Je suppose que la valeur de la moto correspond à la valeur de l'argus ? Et quand est il si le véhicule n'est plus côté ?
Quelle est la durée de validité de ce CPD ?
Quel est le document à fournir pour attester que le véhicule est sorti du pays afin d'être remboursé ?
1000 excuses pour toutes ces questions et merci encore.
re,
toutes tes questions ont leur réponse ici : https://www.automobile-club.org/tourisme-et-voyages/carnet-de-passages-en-douane
valide 1 an mais renouvellable.
le document pour se faire rembourser est le CPD que tu renvoie à l'AAC... avec passage à la police/gendarmerie... qui vérifie à la fin du voyage que le véhicule correspond au CPD (c'est drôle lorsque pour eux c'est une première !!!)
Dominique
Dominique
Bonjour et merci pour votre réponse.
Je suppose que la valeur de la moto correspond à la valeur de l'argus ? Et quand est il si le véhicule n'est plus côté ?
Si le véhicule n'est plus côté c'est à toi de faire une estimation, de tout manière il ne faut pas fournir de papier officiel . Pour l'Iran il faut un minimum de 3500 euros de caution.
Si le véhicule n'est plus côté c'est à toi de faire une estimation, de tout manière il ne faut pas fournir de papier officiel . Pour l'Iran il faut un minimum de 3500 euros de caution.
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
si le passage par la frontière entre la Géorgie et la Russie est sur car on entend tout sur le sujet (Tchétchénie…)
aucun problème, la route Tbilissi - Vladikavkaz est ouverte au transit international. Pas de problème de sécurité côté russe (à part le risque d'un accident de la circulation, probablement plus élevé qu'en France). Par contre, je ne connais pas les formalités d'entrée en Russie pour le véhicule, j'étais à vélo.
Il faut juste savoir que vous ne pourrez pas emprunter certaines petites routes transverses très proches de la frontière (moins de 10 km) sans permis spécial à demander bien à l'avance.
Le passage par l'Abkhazie est possible dans le sens Géorgie -> Abkhazie -> Russie, mais visa abkhaze nécessaire, et vous ne pourrez pas rejoindre l'Ukraine par la Crimée. Donc probablement pas un bon plan...
aucun problème, la route Tbilissi - Vladikavkaz est ouverte au transit international. Pas de problème de sécurité côté russe (à part le risque d'un accident de la circulation, probablement plus élevé qu'en France). Par contre, je ne connais pas les formalités d'entrée en Russie pour le véhicule, j'étais à vélo.
Il faut juste savoir que vous ne pourrez pas emprunter certaines petites routes transverses très proches de la frontière (moins de 10 km) sans permis spécial à demander bien à l'avance.
Le passage par l'Abkhazie est possible dans le sens Géorgie -> Abkhazie -> Russie, mais visa abkhaze nécessaire, et vous ne pourrez pas rejoindre l'Ukraine par la Crimée. Donc probablement pas un bon plan...
Bonjour Gsiste
De mon coté, j'ai un peu aménagé mon programme initial car je compte passer par la Turquie en mai, l'Arménien, l'Iran en juin (ce sera la fin du ramadan), le Turkménistan en moins de 5 jours (ça a l'air d'être difficile de se procurer le visa), l'Ouzbékistan, le Kirghizistan et retour par le Kazakhstan et Russie.
J'imagine au moins 3 ou 4 mois aller/retour depuis Bordeaux.
Pour le carnet de passage en douane, je compte l'éviter en m'adressant à Hossein Sheykhlou ("Overland to Iran") qui peut aider pour diverses démarches (voir son site)
Pour les autres pays, pas besoin de CDP
Si tu le souhaites, nous pouvons nous rencontrer pour parler de tout ça
Michel
Bonjour,
Pour le carnet de passage en douane, je compte l'éviter en m'adressant à Hossein Sheykhlou ("Overland to Iran") qui peut aider pour diverses démarches (voir son site)
Le carnet de passage en douane, obtenu avec l'AC , est tout de même une sécurité et ne coûte que le prix de l'adhésion à l'automobile club (environ 200 euros) La caution est rendue au retour ....avec Hossein certains ont eu des problèmes et sa prestation est nettement plus élevée que les 200 euros de l'AC. Le passage de la frontière à Bazargan ( en venant de Turquie ) nécessite de toute manière "l'aide" d'un "facilitateur" . C'est une vraie mafia, les douaniers, policiers ne contrôlent rien du tout, ce sont ces personnes qui s'occupent de tout, ils font tamponner les visas, s'occupent de faire signer le CPD aux diverses "autorités" ( qui ne regardent rien et se contentent de mettre une signature sur le carnet) et si tu ne passe pas par eux et bien les douaniers , policiers ne tamponnent pas ton carnet ....( c'est arrivé en octobre à un couple d'amis qui n'a pas voulu employer leurs services, résultat CPD pas validé en sortie ...) Le coût est d'environ 10 euros pour ce service ....si tout va bien, de notre coté nous avons été "escroqués" à notre sortie d'Iran, ils nous ont obligé à payer une soi-disant taxe sur les carburants, c'était ça ou nous ne récupérerions pas notre CPD .... L'avantage , également, est tout de même que l'on ne passe que maxi 30 minutes à la douane ....
Pour le carnet de passage en douane, je compte l'éviter en m'adressant à Hossein Sheykhlou ("Overland to Iran") qui peut aider pour diverses démarches (voir son site)
Le carnet de passage en douane, obtenu avec l'AC , est tout de même une sécurité et ne coûte que le prix de l'adhésion à l'automobile club (environ 200 euros) La caution est rendue au retour ....avec Hossein certains ont eu des problèmes et sa prestation est nettement plus élevée que les 200 euros de l'AC. Le passage de la frontière à Bazargan ( en venant de Turquie ) nécessite de toute manière "l'aide" d'un "facilitateur" . C'est une vraie mafia, les douaniers, policiers ne contrôlent rien du tout, ce sont ces personnes qui s'occupent de tout, ils font tamponner les visas, s'occupent de faire signer le CPD aux diverses "autorités" ( qui ne regardent rien et se contentent de mettre une signature sur le carnet) et si tu ne passe pas par eux et bien les douaniers , policiers ne tamponnent pas ton carnet ....( c'est arrivé en octobre à un couple d'amis qui n'a pas voulu employer leurs services, résultat CPD pas validé en sortie ...) Le coût est d'environ 10 euros pour ce service ....si tout va bien, de notre coté nous avons été "escroqués" à notre sortie d'Iran, ils nous ont obligé à payer une soi-disant taxe sur les carburants, c'était ça ou nous ne récupérerions pas notre CPD .... L'avantage , également, est tout de même que l'on ne passe que maxi 30 minutes à la douane ....
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Merci Perju pour ces informations.
Je compte passer par l'Arménie pour rentrer en Iran car (selon Hossein) je peux rester plus longtemps en Iran (jusqu'à 1 mois), mais de toute manière, les frontières sont toujours un problème où il faut garder sa patience!!
C'est vrai que pour le CDP tu récupère la caution mais je ne peux pas me permettre de payer 1,5 fois le prix de ma moto (même si elle n'est plus toute jeune) sachant que le chèque est débité pendant le temps du voyage...
bonjour,
en septembre dernier, j'ai croisé plusieurs motards étrangers, avec des engins dépassant de loin les 250 ccm ...
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Vu que moi aussi je ne peux me permettre de jouer à la loterie iranienne avec mon budget, je vais envisager une destination bien plus sûre.
salut,
selon toi, quelle est la frontière la plus paisible pour passer en Iran merci
selon toi, quelle est la frontière la plus paisible pour passer en Iran merci
Je n'en ai aucune idée. Mais ce dont je suis sûr c'est qu'il y a un grand choix de pays à visiter.
Bien sur qu'il y a beaucoup de pays intéressant à visiter! ...mais je ne comprends pas tes retenues: toutes les personnes que j'ai rencontré me disent que cette destination est une des plus belles car elle allie l'histoire de notre civilisation et la qualité d'accueil du peuple iranien....
De mon coté, il me tarde d'aller me faire une opinion...
bonjour,
je ne connais que la frontière de Bazargan, n'ayant fait qu'un seul voyage dans ce pays.
Par contre ce dont je suis certain, c'est que je vais y retourner - fabuleux pays, peuple extraordinaire, aucun problème avec la police , l'armée ( alors que j'ai eu l'occasion de les "titiller" lors de mes parcours hors circuits classiques) - la frontière n'est qu'un passage de quelques minutes , sans problèmes particuliers, hors le fait de donner un bakchich aux " falicitateurs" ...mais que sont quelques euros quand la vie dans le pays et dérisoire ( et le coût du gasoil ...j'ai fait 8000 km pour moins de 100 euros ...)
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
salut,
merci pour la réponse. Ma question n'est pas destinée à économiser des euros, bien que aillant déjà traversée pas mal de frontières Africaines j'ai toujours mis un point d'honneur à ne rien donner à partir du moment ou je suis en règle.
merci pour la réponse. Ma question n'est pas destinée à économiser des euros, bien que aillant déjà traversée pas mal de frontières Africaines j'ai toujours mis un point d'honneur à ne rien donner à partir du moment ou je suis en règle.
Bonjour,
si tu n'envisages pas de sortir des routes, les applications maps.me et Osmand sont très performantes pour l'iran.
Après si tu cherches des pistes, la seule solution ( celle que j'ai utilisée ) c'est une recherche sur les cartes Russes (avec le logiciel oziexploreur) et ensuite repérage sur Google earth.
Mais c'est un gros travail ....😕
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Bonjour Perju
j'avais à peu près le même problème que Jmlamy et j'ai prévu d'utiliser map.me car je ne connais pas Osmand, quel est le mieux pour l'Ouzbékistan et le Kirghizstan?
bonjour,
Personnellement je préfère maps.me, je le trouve plus réactif qu'Osmand. Mais les deux se valent au niveau information et cartographie .
Si tu connais maps.me , continue avec il est très bien pour tous les pays en "stan ";
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Bonjour Gib
je me suis renseigné sur cette nouvelle donne mais il semble que ce soit limité aux motos américaines de plus de 250CC (pas de HD en Iran!!😎) à priori, pas de problème pour les autres motos quelque soit la cylindrée.
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Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars. We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
Have a great day, everyone!!!!!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month. We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
Thanks for the info! !
Hi there,
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
In January 2026, I’m planning a motorbike trip through northern Vietnam for 3–4 weeks.
Must-dos: Hanoi, RC4, Dien Bien Phu, and of course the must-see landscapes.
I’m looking for any great tips, ideas… and maybe even a riding partner.
Cheers
Hi everyone,
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎 We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Thanks in advance! 😉 Ladava
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Could you share your experiences or advice? I understand we need to book online rather than on-site. Thanks in advance for your replies!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
I’m planning a road trip in Cuba and was wondering if there are any bike rental places (125/500cc) with reasonable rates—not the Harley rental places!
Thanks for your help. Wave of headlights! !
Hello,
Next October we’re planning to ride the Ruta de la Plata by motorcycle—a historic Spanish route that runs from Gijón to Seville, also known as the N630.
Has anyone here already ridden it?
Unfortunately, I’m worried that parts of the N630 may have disappeared or merged with the A66 motorway, forcing us to ride long stretches of highway, which we’d rather avoid.
Thanks in advance for any tips or details about this route!
Hi there!
I’m currently planning a 9-day route starting from Marrakech with my husband. We land on the morning of June 13th—so soon! 😊
And we’re flying back to France on June 21st at 9 PM!
We’ve rented two Royal Enfield 450s.
This is our first motorcycle trip in Morocco. I got my license two years ago with the dream of taking this kind of trip, and here we are! ✌️😍
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
In France, we usually ride between 300 to 400 km per day on roadsters. We’re not used to off-road tracks, so we’re looking for easy ones 😅—especially for me 😅.
For Morocco, I’ve planned stages of 200 to 300 km per day. Here’s the idea: Day 1 (departure at noon): Marrakech - Tizi n Test - Tafingoult (165 km - 4h15) Day 2: Tafingoult - Amzarkou - Telouet (200 km - 4h34) Day 3: Telouet - Ait Benhaddou - Ouarzazate - Boumalne (200 km - 3h30) (+ Vallée des Roses maybe) Day 4: Boumalne - Dades Gorges - Agoudal - Todra Gorges - Tinghir - Goulmima (291 km - 6h) Day 5: Goulmima - Midelt - Cirque Jaffar - Agoudim (280 km - 4h45) Day 6: Agoudim - Imilchil - Aghbala - El Ksiba (280 km - 4h45) Day 7: El Ksiba - La Cathédrale - Zaouiat Ahansal (212 km - 4h20) Day 8: Ahansal - Ouzoud Waterfalls via R 302 (188 km - 4h22) Day 9: Ouzoud - Marrakech (160 km - 2h43) End of the trip 😮.
What do you think?
We haven’t booked any hotels—is that a problem? We were thinking of deciding day by day based on our progress.
Can we take our helmets with us in the cabin, or should we pack them in the checked luggage surrounded by clothes to avoid damage?
I’d love any tips! 😊 Thanks!
Hey there, fellow riders,
I’m really keen on a motorcycle trip to Morocco, specifically the Middle Atlas. Does anyone have any info or tips on this idea? Planning to go in September or October...
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Christine






