Voyage "sur les traces du Bouddha!" en Inde du Sud et Népal
by Estherynnad
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonsoir, nouvelle sur ce site, je suis un peu perdue!🤪
je vous expose mon projet: je souhaiterais partir en inde du nord et népal (lumbini) voir certaines "villes saintes" bouddhistes. (je pense a bodhgaya, Sarnath, Kushinagar..)
je n'en suis encore qu'au stade du rassemblement d'informations, donc tous vos conseils, points de vues, sont bon à prendre pour moi! ;)
es ce que quelqu un ici a deja fait cet itineraire?
vaudrais t il mieux arriver par l'Inde ou par le Népal?
quelle est la meilleure periode pour cette destination?
enfin, j'ai tout un tas de questions pour mettre en place ce beau voyage à venir.
MERCI pour vos idées et vos conseils! 🙂
bonjour
tout comme toi je m'intéresse à un tel voyage.
Si tu veux un exemple de voyage sur les traces du bouddha je te mets le lien du site de l'université bouddhique de france qui propose un tel voyage à ses adhérents.
Cela peut déjà donner une idée des lieux de visites principaux
http://www.bouddhismes.net/voyage_2012-2013
perso j'ai déjà fait quelques lieux bouddhistes comme sarnath en inde et les stupas aux népal à katmandou et j'en ai gardé de bons souvenirs !
http://www.bouddhismes.net/voyage_2012-2013
perso j'ai déjà fait quelques lieux bouddhistes comme sarnath en inde et les stupas aux népal à katmandou et j'en ai gardé de bons souvenirs !
Namaste Esther,
je le ferais dans le sens Kathmandu => Inde:
Kathmandu Namo Boudha (40 km à Sud Est de Kathmandu) Lumbini (éventuellement en passant par Pokhara)
Passage de la frontière (Népal/Inde) (En Inde toutes les villes dont tu parles sont au Nord) ensuite: Kushinagar Varanasi (Sarnath) Bodhgaya Rajir (100 km de Bodhgaya) uniquement en jeep avec chauffeur
La meilleure saison est au début du printemps (fin février/Mars) Avril il commence à faire super chaud en Inde ou à l'automne Octobre/Novembre
Tu peux aussi aller faire un tour à Dharamsala (Nord-Ouest de l'Inde), il y a des bus directs depuis Delhi, meilleure saison Février pour Losar (nouvel an tibetain)
Eviter Bodhgaya en décembre/Janvier car c'est la période des Monlams (rassemblement des maîtres) et on ne trouve pas de chambres.
Où dormir à Lumbini et Bodhgaya : Korean Monastery Namo Boudha : monastère de Namo Boudha ou Tiger Den Resort
Entre Bodhgaya (station de train Gaya) et Delhi prendre un train de nuit (Radjani Express) et réserver en seconde AC (2AC)
Sinon il y a le Boudhist train en Inde : http://www.railtourismindia.com/cgi-bin/dev1.dll/irctc/booking/planner.do?trainType=Buddhist%20Train&trainCat=Buddhist%20Train&screen=FromTrainType&pressedGo=&submitClicks=0&offset=0&buddhaSpl=
N'hésites pas à me contacter si tu as des questions
s:D
je le ferais dans le sens Kathmandu => Inde:
Kathmandu Namo Boudha (40 km à Sud Est de Kathmandu) Lumbini (éventuellement en passant par Pokhara)
Passage de la frontière (Népal/Inde) (En Inde toutes les villes dont tu parles sont au Nord) ensuite: Kushinagar Varanasi (Sarnath) Bodhgaya Rajir (100 km de Bodhgaya) uniquement en jeep avec chauffeur
La meilleure saison est au début du printemps (fin février/Mars) Avril il commence à faire super chaud en Inde ou à l'automne Octobre/Novembre
Tu peux aussi aller faire un tour à Dharamsala (Nord-Ouest de l'Inde), il y a des bus directs depuis Delhi, meilleure saison Février pour Losar (nouvel an tibetain)
Eviter Bodhgaya en décembre/Janvier car c'est la période des Monlams (rassemblement des maîtres) et on ne trouve pas de chambres.
Où dormir à Lumbini et Bodhgaya : Korean Monastery Namo Boudha : monastère de Namo Boudha ou Tiger Den Resort
Entre Bodhgaya (station de train Gaya) et Delhi prendre un train de nuit (Radjani Express) et réserver en seconde AC (2AC)
Sinon il y a le Boudhist train en Inde : http://www.railtourismindia.com/cgi-bin/dev1.dll/irctc/booking/planner.do?trainType=Buddhist%20Train&trainCat=Buddhist%20Train&screen=FromTrainType&pressedGo=&submitClicks=0&offset=0&buddhaSpl=
N'hésites pas à me contacter si tu as des questions
s:D
Bonjour Choedon et Esthérynnad,
Il y a en effet foule et difficulté pour se loger à Bodhgaya pendant la période des Mönlam ...Le problème sera le même à Dharamsala en période de Losar , et en plus les nuits seront très froides , peut-être même les journées aussi . J'y ai eu de solides tempêtes de grêle vers la mi-mars et des températures de 2 ou 3 degrés pendant plusieurs nuits 😛
Dans la vallée de Kathmandou, il ne faut pas manquer le stupa de Bodhnath, ni celui de Swayambunath . Il y a beaucoup de guesthouses à proximité du stupa de Bodhnath . Choedon, connais-tu un endroit où loger à Kushinagar ?.
Il y a en effet foule et difficulté pour se loger à Bodhgaya pendant la période des Mönlam ...Le problème sera le même à Dharamsala en période de Losar , et en plus les nuits seront très froides , peut-être même les journées aussi . J'y ai eu de solides tempêtes de grêle vers la mi-mars et des températures de 2 ou 3 degrés pendant plusieurs nuits 😛
Dans la vallée de Kathmandou, il ne faut pas manquer le stupa de Bodhnath, ni celui de Swayambunath . Il y a beaucoup de guesthouses à proximité du stupa de Bodhnath . Choedon, connais-tu un endroit où loger à Kushinagar ?.
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Namaste Moushika
oui tu as raison pour Dharamsala pendant Losar 😛
Pour kushinagar: voici les 3 monastères qui offrent des hébergements
Myanmar Buddha Vihar Lin Sun Chinese Dharamshala Watt Thai Guest House Tous les trois à cette adresse: info@kushinagar.com J'espère qu'ils répondent aux mail !
s:D
oui tu as raison pour Dharamsala pendant Losar 😛
Pour kushinagar: voici les 3 monastères qui offrent des hébergements
Myanmar Buddha Vihar Lin Sun Chinese Dharamshala Watt Thai Guest House Tous les trois à cette adresse: info@kushinagar.com J'espère qu'ils répondent aux mail !
s:D
Merci beaucoup pour cette réponse rapide !
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
bonjour! merci a tous pour vos precieuses reponses!
j'épluche tout ceci, et je vous tiens au courant, car je sais que j aurais encore des questions !! 😄
a tout bientot!
je voudrais ne pas me fixer trop d endroits a voir pour l instant, (evidemment le programme peut changer un fois sur place! :p )
je voudrais vraiment prendre le temps d apprecier et ne pas trop "speeder".
mon voyage sera très certainemment avec mon ptit bonhomme de 3ans et j aimerais qu il prenne le temps, de decouvrir , a son propre rythme de petit homme.
donc:
Pokhara vaut il vraiment le détour?
es ce possible de passer directement de Namo boudha à Lumbini?
merci :)
a ce sujet, avez vous deja fait ce voyage accompagné de jeunes enfants?
merci pour vos reponses!
Je trouve que tu as tout à fait raison de limiter le nombre d'endroits à visiter, les trajets étant souvent longs et fatigants en Inde , d'autant plus avec un petit bout de 3 ans .
Indiens et Népalais aiment beaucoup les enfants et seront près à t'aider .
Maintenant, point de vue hygiène, hum, ça laisse vraiment fort à désirer . Tu vas devoir très bien te préparer mentalement et le préparer mentalement . Ici, se laver les mains avant de manger et ne pas mettre ses doigts en bouche en dehors des repas a vraiment tout son sens . ( Beaucoup de plats se mangent avec les doigts, préalablement bien lavés) . Il faudra aussi penser à ses vaccins , voir cela avec ton médecin .
Je te conseille de lire les discussions de la rubrique " Voyager avec des enfants " .
Certains te déconseilleront formellement de le faire, d'autres t'encourageront , pèse bien tous les arguments , c'est toi qui connais ton enfant .
Je pense que choisir deux ou trois endroits serait bien , en réservant les logements . Pour ma part, si ton but de voyage est de voyager sur les traces du Bouddha, je pense que tu peux oublier Pokhara pour cette fois-ci .
Tu peux faire le pèlerinage classique ( Bodhgaya, Sarnath, Lumbini, Kushinagar ) ou choisir deux endroits de ce pèlerinage .
Tu peux aussi aller simplement à Dharamsala (plutôt en avril-mai) et circuler dans les environs en bus et taxis (très bon marché) , la région est belle et il y a beaucoup d'endroits intéressants que tu pourrais visiter à la journée au départ de Mac Leod Ganj.(le village tibétain , devenu fort touristique, où je te recommandes quand même de loger)
Tu peux aussi te limiter au Népal ( la vallée de Kathmandou et Lumbini )
Si tu voyages dans le Bihar, veille à arriver de jour . La région n'est pas vraiment sécurisée de nuit .
Voilà ce qui me vient à l'esprit pour l'instant .
N'hésite pas à poser d'autres questions .
Indiens et Népalais aiment beaucoup les enfants et seront près à t'aider .
Maintenant, point de vue hygiène, hum, ça laisse vraiment fort à désirer . Tu vas devoir très bien te préparer mentalement et le préparer mentalement . Ici, se laver les mains avant de manger et ne pas mettre ses doigts en bouche en dehors des repas a vraiment tout son sens . ( Beaucoup de plats se mangent avec les doigts, préalablement bien lavés) . Il faudra aussi penser à ses vaccins , voir cela avec ton médecin .
Je te conseille de lire les discussions de la rubrique " Voyager avec des enfants " .
Certains te déconseilleront formellement de le faire, d'autres t'encourageront , pèse bien tous les arguments , c'est toi qui connais ton enfant .
Je pense que choisir deux ou trois endroits serait bien , en réservant les logements . Pour ma part, si ton but de voyage est de voyager sur les traces du Bouddha, je pense que tu peux oublier Pokhara pour cette fois-ci .
Tu peux faire le pèlerinage classique ( Bodhgaya, Sarnath, Lumbini, Kushinagar ) ou choisir deux endroits de ce pèlerinage .
Tu peux aussi aller simplement à Dharamsala (plutôt en avril-mai) et circuler dans les environs en bus et taxis (très bon marché) , la région est belle et il y a beaucoup d'endroits intéressants que tu pourrais visiter à la journée au départ de Mac Leod Ganj.(le village tibétain , devenu fort touristique, où je te recommandes quand même de loger)
Tu peux aussi te limiter au Népal ( la vallée de Kathmandou et Lumbini )
Si tu voyages dans le Bihar, veille à arriver de jour . La région n'est pas vraiment sécurisée de nuit .
Voilà ce qui me vient à l'esprit pour l'instant .
N'hésite pas à poser d'autres questions .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Namaste !
Je l'ai fait avec ma fille qui avait 18 ans et elle a été vraiment choquée par Varanasi donc je l'emmenais passer la journée à Sarnath, beaucoup plus paisible.
Tu peux peut être remplacer pokhara par Chitwan pour aller voir les éléphants avec ton petit bout et ça réduira la durée du trajet vers Lumbini (KTM/Lumbini 7 à 8 h minimum) (KTM/ Chitwan 5h) (Chitwan/Lumbini 4h).
De Namo il faut repasser par KTM pour aller à Lumbini. Mais avec ton fils aller à Namo sera trop dur en bus, ils sont plus que bondés ou alors en taxi - il faut compter 30€.
Bonne prépa!
s:D
Je l'ai fait avec ma fille qui avait 18 ans et elle a été vraiment choquée par Varanasi donc je l'emmenais passer la journée à Sarnath, beaucoup plus paisible.
Tu peux peut être remplacer pokhara par Chitwan pour aller voir les éléphants avec ton petit bout et ça réduira la durée du trajet vers Lumbini (KTM/Lumbini 7 à 8 h minimum) (KTM/ Chitwan 5h) (Chitwan/Lumbini 4h).
De Namo il faut repasser par KTM pour aller à Lumbini. Mais avec ton fils aller à Namo sera trop dur en bus, ils sont plus que bondés ou alors en taxi - il faut compter 30€.
Bonne prépa!
s:D
bonjour bonjour!
Faire escale a Chitwan me parait etre une bonne idée, pour "alléger" le trajet entre katmandou et Lumbini.
peut etre laisser Namo Boudha de coté pour cette fois.
je prends bien conscience qu il est assez "delicat" de voyager avec un petit bout si jeune, j'ai lu bcp de temoignages a ce sujet, mais je pense que si l on prends les précautions necessaires (notamment au niveau de l hygiène) et une bonne organisation, notre voyage sera au top! ;)
une petite question Choedon: ta fille a été choqué a Vanarasi, pour quelles raisons? l'agitation?
car si certaines villes que je souhaite visiter a la base sont vraiment trop difficiles, je veux bien revoir mon itineraire.
le plus important pour nous (pour l instant :p ) est de voir Lumbini , Kushinagar et Bodhgaya.
Bonjour,
Choedon nous dira ce qu'elle en pense . Pour ma part, je pense qu'un petit bout de trois ans risque moins d'être choqué par Bénarès qu'une jeune fille de 18 ans .
A cet âge là, si Maman est à l'aise devant les bûchers funéraires, Petit bout l'est aussi . A 18 ans, ce n'est plus du tout comme ça !
D'autre part, tes priorités semblent établies : Lumbini, Kushinagar et Bodhgaya 😎..... Bénarès vient donc en plus, si ....
Choedon nous dira ce qu'elle en pense . Pour ma part, je pense qu'un petit bout de trois ans risque moins d'être choqué par Bénarès qu'une jeune fille de 18 ans .
A cet âge là, si Maman est à l'aise devant les bûchers funéraires, Petit bout l'est aussi . A 18 ans, ce n'est plus du tout comme ça !
D'autre part, tes priorités semblent établies : Lumbini, Kushinagar et Bodhgaya 😎..... Bénarès vient donc en plus, si ....
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Le Buddha (Shakyamuni) n'a jamais mis les pied en Inde du sud...
Voilà les huit principaux lieux saints bouddhistes:
Lumbini: lieu de naissance
Bodhgaya: lieu de l'éveil
Sarnath: lieu du premier sermon
Kushinagar: lieu de sa mort -> entrée dans la parinirvana
Ces 4 là sont les principaux, ensuite viennent
Vaishali: première ordination à des nonnes
Rajgir: enseignement de la perfection de la sagesse
Shravasti: lieu ou le buddha resta le plus longtemps lors de son périple, il y dirigea 22 retraites d'affilé (-> 22 ans)
Sankasya: ou le buddha est descendu du paradis
Pour ton voyage tu peux t'inspirer de ce documentaire très intéressant qui parle du chemin qu'a parcouru Siddhartha Gautama, tu auras déjà un bon aperçu des lieux et j'en suis sur cela te mettra l'eau à la bouche en attendant ton départ.
Comme quelqu'un le dit très justement le sens Népal Inde me semble plus judicieux. Partir de Kathmandu (bodnath, swayambunath), puis le terraï pour ensuite continuer en Inde Bodhgaya, Sarnath
Bon voyage.
Voilà les huit principaux lieux saints bouddhistes:
Lumbini: lieu de naissance
Bodhgaya: lieu de l'éveil
Sarnath: lieu du premier sermon
Kushinagar: lieu de sa mort -> entrée dans la parinirvana
Ces 4 là sont les principaux, ensuite viennent
Vaishali: première ordination à des nonnes
Rajgir: enseignement de la perfection de la sagesse
Shravasti: lieu ou le buddha resta le plus longtemps lors de son périple, il y dirigea 22 retraites d'affilé (-> 22 ans)
Sankasya: ou le buddha est descendu du paradis
Pour ton voyage tu peux t'inspirer de ce documentaire très intéressant qui parle du chemin qu'a parcouru Siddhartha Gautama, tu auras déjà un bon aperçu des lieux et j'en suis sur cela te mettra l'eau à la bouche en attendant ton départ.
Comme quelqu'un le dit très justement le sens Népal Inde me semble plus judicieux. Partir de Kathmandu (bodnath, swayambunath), puis le terraï pour ensuite continuer en Inde Bodhgaya, Sarnath
Bon voyage.
« Un voyage se passe de motifs. Il ne tarde pas à prouver qu'il se suffit à lui-même. On croit qu'on va faire un voyage, mais bientôt c'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait. »
N. Bouvier
bonjour Badmarsh, j ai vu ce documentaire la, qui m a beaucoup plu! et c'est d ailleurs un peu grace a celui la (aussi!) que j'ai choisi de visiter ces villes en question!
je suis très interressée par la vie de Siddhartha Gautama depuis un bout de temps, et je rêve de poser les pieds la ou il a posé les siens! :p
ce voyage a deja été fait pour vous?
Namaste Namaste,
Elle a été choquée par l'activité, le comportement des gens, le harcelement, il est vrai qu'elle a le type indien et ils n'ont pas fait dans la dentelle... à la gare on m'a demandé combien je la vendais... mais je ne pense pas que ça arrive avec ton fils.
Niveau hygiène, oui les conseils qui t'on été donné sont importants. Je rajouterais de ne jamais boire dans les verres et timbales dans les gargottes car il reste très souvent de l'eau de rinçage dedans. C'est pas écolo mais il faut préférer les bouteilles d'eau minérale. Même chose pour le brossage des dents. Et ne pas boire l'eau sous la douche (j'adore ;))
On trouve sur Thamel, Chitwan, Pokhara des jarres d'eau minérale dont on peut remplir les bouteilles, ça coute 10 nrs le litre, moins cher qu'une bouteille d'eau et plus écolo.
Sinon en ce qui concerne les purificateurs d'eau, on trouve ici facilement du 'Piyush', ça coûte 20nrs, suffisant pour un mois et ça n'a pas de mauvais goût.
s:D
Elle a été choquée par l'activité, le comportement des gens, le harcelement, il est vrai qu'elle a le type indien et ils n'ont pas fait dans la dentelle... à la gare on m'a demandé combien je la vendais... mais je ne pense pas que ça arrive avec ton fils.
Niveau hygiène, oui les conseils qui t'on été donné sont importants. Je rajouterais de ne jamais boire dans les verres et timbales dans les gargottes car il reste très souvent de l'eau de rinçage dedans. C'est pas écolo mais il faut préférer les bouteilles d'eau minérale. Même chose pour le brossage des dents. Et ne pas boire l'eau sous la douche (j'adore ;))
On trouve sur Thamel, Chitwan, Pokhara des jarres d'eau minérale dont on peut remplir les bouteilles, ça coute 10 nrs le litre, moins cher qu'une bouteille d'eau et plus écolo.
Sinon en ce qui concerne les purificateurs d'eau, on trouve ici facilement du 'Piyush', ça coûte 20nrs, suffisant pour un mois et ça n'a pas de mauvais goût.
s:D
bonjour;
oui à mon avis, ce n'est pas une bonne idée de boire de l'eau autre qu'une eau minerale non décapsulée! (je ne connaissait pas ce systeme de jarre d'eau minerale, interressant!)
et je compte bien avoir des purificateurs d'eau, mon frère me recommande vivement de le faire (il en a bcp utilisé lors de sa vie dans les campagnes marocaines! :p )
pour ta fille, je comprends tout a fait la réaction, et je pense qu'un pitchou de 3ans attirera moins les regards qu'une jeune fille de 18ans.
je commence a me fixer:
- arrivée par l' aéroport de Ktm,
- bus jusqu'à Chitawan,
- bus jusqu'à Lumbini,
passage de le frontière Népal/Inde
- kushinagar- Sarnath- bodhgaya.
((Bodhgaya-Dehli --train de nuit --))
j'ai vraiment hate de vivre l'experience!!!😊
((Bodhgaya-Dehli --train de nuit --))
j'ai vraiment hate de vivre l'experience!!!😊
bonjour!
encore des questions! 😛
comment cela se passe au niveau du visa pour l'inde lorsqu'on est au népal?
j ai lu quelques temoignages a ce sujet (encore :p ) mais tellement de choses differentes, donc pour vous, comment cela s'est il passé?
je fais encore appel a votre experience!!! 😊
muchas gracias!!!
Bonjour,
Pour l'Inde, il faut avoir le visa avant d'entrer en Inde . Tu fais mieux de t'en occuper en France avant de partir , pas trop tôt car sa validité commence le jour où il est émis . Pas trop tard non plus ....une dizaine de jours suffisent . Pour être tout à fait à l'aise et ne pas stresser au cas où le visa tarderait à arriver ou autre contretemps , je préfère compter trois semaines, mais ce n'est pas nécessaire .
Pour les démarches concrètes à faire en France, regarde sur le site de l'ambassade . Les Français passent par VFS, mais là je ne peux pas t'en dire plus (les belges suivent une autre procédure)
Pour l'Inde, il faut avoir le visa avant d'entrer en Inde . Tu fais mieux de t'en occuper en France avant de partir , pas trop tôt car sa validité commence le jour où il est émis . Pas trop tard non plus ....une dizaine de jours suffisent . Pour être tout à fait à l'aise et ne pas stresser au cas où le visa tarderait à arriver ou autre contretemps , je préfère compter trois semaines, mais ce n'est pas nécessaire .
Pour les démarches concrètes à faire en France, regarde sur le site de l'ambassade . Les Français passent par VFS, mais là je ne peux pas t'en dire plus (les belges suivent une autre procédure)
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
le hic c'est que je ne sais pas trop combien de temps je resterais au Népal avant d arriver en Inde...😕
du coup, j ai un peu peur que la date expire avant si je le fais faire en france.
je pensais plutot a comment obtenir mon visa pour l inde depuis le népal!
j ai du mal m exprimer pardon !😊
Namaste,
je ne te conseille pas non plus de prendre ton visa au Népal. La procédure a changée et s'est allourdie.
Il faut maintenant aller à l'ambassade en J1, retourner en J5 et encore en J6. 9a te laisse bloquée au minimum 8 jours à KTM.
Tu peux demander un visa indien 3 mois en France.
s:D
je ne te conseille pas non plus de prendre ton visa au Népal. La procédure a changée et s'est allourdie.
Il faut maintenant aller à l'ambassade en J1, retourner en J5 et encore en J6. 9a te laisse bloquée au minimum 8 jours à KTM.
Tu peux demander un visa indien 3 mois en France.
s:D
ouille oui d ' accord, c'est assez long , et sa doit pas etre une mince affaire !
si le visa fait en france est pour 3mois, j en ai bien assez en effet.
Je vais suivre vos conseils, Choedon et Moushika!!! encore Merci! 🙂
Je vais suivre vos conseils, Choedon et Moushika!!! encore Merci! 🙂
hello Esther
je voulais savoir ou tu en étais de ton périple car je compte passer cet été par les villes dont tu parles comme Kushinagar , Lumbini ....histoire d'avoir des adresses ou dormir par exemple , des renseignements plus récents sur ce magnifique chemin ...
merci d'avance pour tes réponses ...
Isabelle
Pour kushinagar: voici les 3 monastères qui offrent des hébergements
Myanmar Buddha Vihar
Lin Sun Chinese Dharamshala
Watt Thai Guest House
Enfin...attention, ce sont des monastères, pas des guest house, donc tu dois te lever à 4 heures du matin pour aller prier. Si tu veux être plus libre, je te conseille l'un des deux hôtels de la ville. J'ai oublié le nom mais c'est celui qui est près du tournant, au bout de la route. Il ressemble un peu à une suite de bungalows, avec jardin devant. Le hall est grand et il y a des horloges indiquant l'heure dans les principaux pays bouddhistes du monde. 800 roupies la double, ça va.
Faire le parcours des quatre villes est un peu embêtant car elles sont espacées et sans beaucoup de communication entre elles. En février dernier, nous sommes allés dans trois des quatre villes. En gros, ta base de départ sera Varanasi d'où tu pourras joindre Gorakhpur (huit heures de bus) puis Kushinagar (à 1 heure de Gorakhpur), Sarnat (facile, à 30min de Varanasi) et Gaya (4 heures de train) puis Bodhgaya (30 min de bus). Pour Lumpini, c'est un peu plus difficile...
NB:tu as écrit "Inde du sud" dans ton titre, essaie de corriger ^^
Enfin...attention, ce sont des monastères, pas des guest house, donc tu dois te lever à 4 heures du matin pour aller prier. Si tu veux être plus libre, je te conseille l'un des deux hôtels de la ville. J'ai oublié le nom mais c'est celui qui est près du tournant, au bout de la route. Il ressemble un peu à une suite de bungalows, avec jardin devant. Le hall est grand et il y a des horloges indiquant l'heure dans les principaux pays bouddhistes du monde. 800 roupies la double, ça va.
Faire le parcours des quatre villes est un peu embêtant car elles sont espacées et sans beaucoup de communication entre elles. En février dernier, nous sommes allés dans trois des quatre villes. En gros, ta base de départ sera Varanasi d'où tu pourras joindre Gorakhpur (huit heures de bus) puis Kushinagar (à 1 heure de Gorakhpur), Sarnat (facile, à 30min de Varanasi) et Gaya (4 heures de train) puis Bodhgaya (30 min de bus). Pour Lumpini, c'est un peu plus difficile...
NB:tu as écrit "Inde du sud" dans ton titre, essaie de corriger ^^
Bonjour Pampita
merci pour la rapidité de ta réponse ....mince alors pour le titre , je ne sais pas ou je peux changer ...je suis un peu tête en l'air !
je ne vais pas descendre sur Varanasi cette fois car je connais déjà , j'y suis allée en novembre et du coup j'en ai profité pour aller à Sarnath sur la journée ...magnifique endroit ! je ne veux pas non plus aller sur Bodhgaya car je connais aussi , j'adore ce lieu ....c'est pour cela que je lis attentivement ton post car il me manque encore quelques beaux lieux à découvrir cet été
pour ce qui est des hotels il ne doit pas y en avoir bcp selon les villes ...c'est sur que je ne vais pas me lever tous les jours à 4h du mat donc j'aimerai bien alterner entre guest house et monastère ....
es tu déja allée à Vaisali ? Sravasti ? de Gorakpur on m'a dit que je pouvais partir en taxi jusqu'à la frontière Népalaise et dire que je vais juste à Lumbini dans un but religieux et que je reviens le lendemain en Inde ...pour ça il faut avoir une photo sous le coude et qques dollars ? est ce exact ? il me semblait que quand on sortait du territoire Indien on devait attendre un mois avant d'y rerentrer ...???
merci encore pour ton aide ,
belle fin de journée
Isabelle
Salut Isabelle !
Moui, Lumpini est un peu difficile d'accès. Comme les quatre lieux saints à vrai dire... D'ailleurs, les pèlerins bouddhistes étrangers qui y vont prennent tous des tours organisés.
Pour le visa népalais, tu pouvais l'avoir à la frontière il y a dix ans et je crois que c'est toujours le cas. Si tu as un visa double entrée pour l'Inde, je ne crois pas que tu doives attendre un mois, ça me paraît bizarre... En tout cas, ce n'était pas le cas quand j'y suis allé mais vérifie quand même.
Quand on est arrivé à Gorakhpur, il était 22h et on devait chercher rapidos un taxi pour Kushinagar, donc je n'ai pas trop traîné à la gare routière et demandé. Je pense qu'effectivement tu peux trouver des taxis pour la frontière mais ça risque de te revenir cher. Il doit bien y avoir des bus je pense... Par contre, les gens dans ce coin de l'Uttar Pradesh sont très sympa et honnêtes. Peu de chance de se faire arnaquer par le taxisi tu en prends un.
es tu déja allée à Vaisali ? Sravasti ?
Non jamais, hélas...
Moui, Lumpini est un peu difficile d'accès. Comme les quatre lieux saints à vrai dire... D'ailleurs, les pèlerins bouddhistes étrangers qui y vont prennent tous des tours organisés.
Pour le visa népalais, tu pouvais l'avoir à la frontière il y a dix ans et je crois que c'est toujours le cas. Si tu as un visa double entrée pour l'Inde, je ne crois pas que tu doives attendre un mois, ça me paraît bizarre... En tout cas, ce n'était pas le cas quand j'y suis allé mais vérifie quand même.
Quand on est arrivé à Gorakhpur, il était 22h et on devait chercher rapidos un taxi pour Kushinagar, donc je n'ai pas trop traîné à la gare routière et demandé. Je pense qu'effectivement tu peux trouver des taxis pour la frontière mais ça risque de te revenir cher. Il doit bien y avoir des bus je pense... Par contre, les gens dans ce coin de l'Uttar Pradesh sont très sympa et honnêtes. Peu de chance de se faire arnaquer par le taxisi tu en prends un.
es tu déja allée à Vaisali ? Sravasti ?
Non jamais, hélas...
Namaste Isabelle
Pour ta re entree en Inde verifie ton visa si c'est une entrees multiples : en tout petit caracteres il est ecrit de ne pas pouvoir re entrer en Inde avant un delai de 60 jours. Mais sur les dernieres versions de ces visas entrees multiples ce n'est pas stipule donc tu peux re entrer avant de delai de 2 mois. Si c'est un visa double entrees pas de problemes.
Pour l'entree au Nepal on a le droit a 48h sans visa, a negocier, sinon 5 USD par jour.
s:D
Pour ta re entree en Inde verifie ton visa si c'est une entrees multiples : en tout petit caracteres il est ecrit de ne pas pouvoir re entrer en Inde avant un delai de 60 jours. Mais sur les dernieres versions de ces visas entrees multiples ce n'est pas stipule donc tu peux re entrer avant de delai de 2 mois. Si c'est un visa double entrees pas de problemes.
Pour l'entree au Nepal on a le droit a 48h sans visa, a negocier, sinon 5 USD par jour.
s:D
bonsoir Choedon
merci pour ta réponse , j'attends de recevoir mon visa et je regarderais bien ce qui est marqué ...en effet 48 h me suffisent car ensuite je dois retourner sur Delhi pour remonter sur Dharamsala ...une prochaine fois j'en profiterais pour voyager plus longtemps au Népal ....connais tu bien Lumbini ? pour loger et que voir dans les alentours en si peu de temps car bcp de monastères ??? merci encore ...
A bientôt
Isabelle
Namaste
Dans les alentours a ne pas manquer Tilaurakot a 27 km Ouest de Lumbini, c'est le fameux Palace de la premiere sortie de Siddharta plus tous les sites archeologiques de la zone. Ca prend 5 a 6 h.
A Lumbini en une demi journee les temples et monasteres autres que le temple principal, le Mayadevi.
Il y a des petites Guest houses pas trop cheres au village et le Korean monastery qui est un peu eloigne du temple principal.
A Lumbini on peut louer des velos. Par contre pour la zone de Kipalavastu il faut prendre un tour organise ou un taxi.
s:D
Dans les alentours a ne pas manquer Tilaurakot a 27 km Ouest de Lumbini, c'est le fameux Palace de la premiere sortie de Siddharta plus tous les sites archeologiques de la zone. Ca prend 5 a 6 h.
A Lumbini en une demi journee les temples et monasteres autres que le temple principal, le Mayadevi.
Il y a des petites Guest houses pas trop cheres au village et le Korean monastery qui est un peu eloigne du temple principal.
A Lumbini on peut louer des velos. Par contre pour la zone de Kipalavastu il faut prendre un tour organise ou un taxi.
s:D
bonjour
merci Choedon pour ces renseignements ....quand tu parles d'aller au site archéo les 5/6 heures c'est A/R + la visite ???
quand à la zone de Kipalavastu , c'est quoi exactement et c'est où ? loin de Lumbini ? je n'ai aucun guide sur le Népal mais je me dis que pour 2 jours les voyageurs du foum sauront m'aiguiller ...
mon souci c'est que je n'ai pas envie de faire que de la voiture , prendre le temps d'apprécier le lieu et le découvrir ...et ce que je n'aurai pas le temps de faire je me dis que je reviendrais une autre fois et là j'aurai plus de temps pour monter jusqu'à Katmandou ...
belle fin de journée ...peut être pas pour toi au Népal ou tu dois avoir pas mal de décalage avec nous !
A bientôt
Isabelle
en effet 48 h me suffisent car ensuite je dois retourner sur Delhi pour remonter sur Dharamsala
Peut-être que ça ne sera pas suffisant si tu veux t'imprégner de l'endroit et te recueillir...
Peut-être que ça ne sera pas suffisant si tu veux t'imprégner de l'endroit et te recueillir...
Bonjour Pampita
je sais que ça va faire juste mais c'est une amie nonne qui ne conseille fortement d'aller me recueillir .....de toute façon je me connais et je me dis qu'une fois en Inde je vais vite prendre le rythme ...et pour le moment je me fais un trajet à la louche car ensuite je me laisserais guider ....mon but n'est pas de faire un maximum de choses en peu de temps car comme tu dis le temps de s'imprégner du lieu ....
tu es ou en ce moment tjs sur la route avec ton petit tout ?
Isa
Namaste Isa
5/6 heures en tout avec les visites et le trajet A/R avec un guide car il y a beaucoup a voir les piliers d'Asoka qui marquent la presence des Boudhas anterieurs au Boudha Shakiamouni, le palais ou la famille royale du prince Sidharta vivait, le premier monastere en terre Nepalaise construit par le pere de Sidharta pour ramener son fils au pays et bien d'autres sites encore.
Tu trouveras des guides a Lumbini.
s:D
5/6 heures en tout avec les visites et le trajet A/R avec un guide car il y a beaucoup a voir les piliers d'Asoka qui marquent la presence des Boudhas anterieurs au Boudha Shakiamouni, le palais ou la famille royale du prince Sidharta vivait, le premier monastere en terre Nepalaise construit par le pere de Sidharta pour ramener son fils au pays et bien d'autres sites encore.
Tu trouveras des guides a Lumbini.
s:D
merci bcp pour toutes ces precisions , j'ai reçu mon visa et il y a bien écrit entrée multiples ! au départ je ne voulais pas aller sur Lumbini mais maintenant je me dis que rester 3 jours est pas mal pour prendre le temps , même si c'est trés court pour voir l'essentiel ...j'ai peur que 2 jours soient peu , qu'en penses tu ? il faudra que je vois ça pour le visa Népalais , tu dis qu'au delà de 48 h on doit payer 5USD / jours , donc est ce possible de le prendre pour la journée supplémentaire ou du coup les 3 jours directs ?
qu'est ce exactement Kipalavastu ?est là qu'il y a les piliers d'Asoka ? et c'est loin de Lumbini ?
merci encore pour tous vos conseils ....tout doucement je finalise mon voyage ....quel plaisir !
Isabelle
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NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Hi there,
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
My partner and I are heading to Nepal for 15 days in March—she’s a schoolteacher. We’ll be trekking to Everest Base Camp and then doing the loop via the Gokyo Lakes.
We’d love to set up a fundraiser to donate to a school in Namche, along with visiting the school. It’s something that really matters to us. But it’s been tough to get in touch with a school—any ideas on how to go about this? Thanks!
Hello my fellow globetrotters, could anyone tell me how to find the French colonial cemetery in Pondicherry? It seems tricky to locate.
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
Thanks so much for your help! Take care, pace yourselves, and travel far.
Cheers, Régine
I'm looking for a small, not-too-touristy restaurant in Fort Kochi. Do you know one not too far from Jacob Road?
Thanks
Hi there,
My wife and I are getting ready for this tour from March 27 to April 8.
I’d love to know if anyone’s traveled with Salaun Holidays before? How many people are usually in a group? How much cash should we bring?
We’re also unsure about what clothes to pack..... plus sheets and pillowcases?
And if you’ve got any tips to avoid being too bothered by beggars and touts.
Any advice you’ve got would be really helpful.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’d like to travel to Rajasthan and the Ganges Valley—it’s my first time going on a long-haul trip, and I’m thinking of booking with BTtours from Belgium (or Salaün in France). Has anyone here traveled with this agency before and can share their experience? I was planning to go around November, but some people tell me it might still be pretty cold (around 8°C)—is that true?
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
Also, what’s the best way to get money there? Can you enter India with cash on you?
Thanks for your help!
hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
I’m planning a trip to Northern India (Rajasthan, Ganges Valley with Varanasi (Benares)).
My travel agency is offering me two tour operators: Asia with the "Saris and Saddhus" circuit, and Salaun with the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit. I’ve already traveled to Sri Lanka and Southern India with Asia. The trips went really well.
I don’t know Salaun Holidays. Their circuit seems more comprehensive, with a day of relaxation (16 days on site). Travel with Air France.
Has any member of this forum done the "Northern India and the Ganges Valley" circuit with Salaun? Can I get your feedback on the tour operator Salaun Holidays?
Thanks so much
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi everyone,
we’re heading to Tamil Nadu and Kerala at the start of the year for 30 days. We did Rajasthan 12 years ago, but things change fast.
I’ve read that to get a SIM card, you have to buy it at a shop and then go to the operator to get a number; you’d also need an Indian mobile number. Has anyone here had recent experience with this?
For buses and trains, do you need to book them well in advance?
Any tips are welcome—thanks in advance!
Happy holidays to all,
Philippe
Hi everyone! 🙂
My partner (who’s a teacher—hence the summer holidays) and I are heading to Eastern India for 23 days in July. This is my 5th trip to India, but her first.
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
We fly into Delhi on July 7th and leave from Delhi on the 23rd (since our flight to Kolkata arrived late at night, and I wanted to show Agra and Varanasi to my partner).
We love getting off the beaten track and meeting people, so we’ll mostly be taking the train.
Here’s what we’re planning:
- **DELHI**: 1 night on the way (short because the plane is supposed to land at 01:55), then we take the train at 13:00 - **GWALIOR**: 3 nights, including a day trip to **AGRA** by train to see the Taj Mahal and the Red Fort (I find Agra too touristy to stay overnight). Otherwise, in Gwalior, the Fort, the temples, the Man Mandir Palace, and the Jai Vilas Palace if we have time. - **ORCHHA**: 2 nights... *maybe skip this to spend more time in VARANASI?* - **VARANASI**: overnight train + 3 nights, the Ghats, temples... maybe a day trip to **SARNATH**. - **KOLKATA**: overnight train + 3 nights. Maybe a countryside excursion to the ashram in Channa. *- Here we’re hesitating over 2 nights: either 2 nights in **SHANTINIKETAN** with a visit to **CHANNA** on the way, or a 2-day excursion to the **SUNDARBAN** nature park. But is it worth it in July during the monsoon?* - **PURI**: overnight train + 4 nights. *We’re planning to do everything from Puri, as it seems nicer than staying in BHUBANESWAR. What do you think?* Visit **KONARK** and **CHILIKA LAKE**. *Is it worth visiting Chilika Lake this season? Another question: can you swim in Puri, or is it too dangerous (waves)?* - Train to **BHUBANESWAR**, then a flight from BHUBANESWAR to **DELHI**, - 2 nights in **DELHI**, visiting Jama Masjid, and *either Humayun’s Tomb, Safdarjung’s Tomb, or Qutb Minar.*
Back to Paris. Total: 23 nights.
What do you think of these choices? What about the options we’re still unsure about *(in bold/italics)*? Thanks so much! 🙂
hi everyone, I’m putting together an itinerary for Sri Lanka in September 2026, so I’m focusing on the east side of the island because of the monsoon on the west coast:
Day 1 Kandy: botanical garden, fruit and vegetable market, traditional dance show
Day 2 Kandy-Ella train
Day 3-4 Kumana NP or Lunugamvehera Block 6+5
Day 5-6 Komari / Pottuvi lagoon safari
Day 7 head up the east coast along the beaches to reach Wasgamuwa NP
Day 8 Wasgamuwa NP early morning safari, then Polonnaruwa (temple and palace)
Day 9-10 Sigiriya Lion’s Rock and Dambulla, cave temple
Day 11-12 Wilpattu NP early morning safari, then late afternoon
Day 13-14 Kalpitiya, snorkeling and chilling
Day 15 return to Colombo
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on whether this route is doable—we’ll be traveling with a driver-guide.
Feel free to mention any great tips or good homestay experiences you’ve had, since we prefer those.





