Comme certains le savent, nous organisons notre voyage de noce en Thaïlande en janvier 2019.
Le but est de visiter les terres 7 à 10 jours et de rester ensuite sur une ou plusieurs iles 7 à 10 jours.
J'en parle autour de moi et beaucoup me disent d'éviter la Thaïlande à cause du tourisme de masse. Ils me redirigent vers le Vietnam, la Birmanie, le Laos, … En gros, tout sauf la Thaïlande…
Dois-je changer de destination finalement? J'en arrive à avoir peur et à me dire que la Thaïlande telle qu'elle est devenue aujourd'hui, ça n'en vaut plus la peine…
Honnêtement, je suis très ouverte mais le but est de passer la moitié de notre séjour à visiter et l'autre, farniente sur des plages aux eaux cristallines…
Bonjour,
Ce pays reste très conseillé pour des premiers pas en Asie du Sud-est, tourisme et déplacements faciles et excellent rapport qualité/prix encore aujourd'hui. Je ne vois pas de raison de s'en détourner pour un voyage de noces, mais dans ce cas-là, c'est pure logique de se retrouver dans le flot de ses semblables.
Cela dit, n'étant pas grand voyageur, ce n'est que mon avis peu avisé.
Par ailleurs, il semblerait que son arrière-pays devienne une contrée d'étude indispensable à tout ethnologue digne de ce nom.
Jamais bien compris l'enthousiasme délirant qu'on trouvait à quelques semaines en Creuse, mais bon...chacun son idée du paradis.
Pour un voyage de noces, la Thaïlande est un choix pertinent car le parc hôtelier offre un excellent rapport qualité prix.Pour le billet d'avion, facile de trouver la bonne affaire car beaucoup de compagnies desservent Bangkok , Phuket....
Dès qu'on opte pour des établissements de qualité(donc souvent un peu plus chers), on s'éloigne du tourisme de masse.
La Birmanie, le Laos et le Vietnam sont certes des destinations attractives mais pour un voyage de noces, ce n'est pas le meilleur choix.Ce ne sont pas les Maldives ou les Seychelles.
Franchement, si votre budget n'est pas trop serré, vous passerez un magnifique séjour en Thaïlande.Un superbe hôtel dans un décor de rêve, loin de la foule...Ne cherchez plus la Thaïlande dispose de nombreuses adresses pour vous satisfaire .Le mois de janvier est une bonne période car après les fêtes de fin d'année .Les rabat-joie ont souvent fréquenté les zones les plus détestables de la Thaïlande et n'ont qu'une vision très réduite du pays.
Je vous remercie pour vos réponses qui me rassurent un peu…
Je suis évidemment preneuses d'autres avis. J'ai tellement lu de post négatifs qui placent la Thaïlande en dessous des autres payés cités dans mes précédents messages que ça m'a vraiment fait peur…
Pour éviter les zones à tourisme de masse, n'hésitez surtout pas à me communiquer vos bons conseils sur les zones à découvrir =)
Ceci étant il est vrai que la Thailande c'est un tourisme de masse, mais essentiellement dans les villes citées précédemment et les îles.
Il y a des régions telles que l'Isan qui sont encore relativement préservéeset quelques coins dans le nord qui sont trés sympas avec un tourisme plus léger.
Le Laos se développe énormément également ainsi que le Cambodge dans les grandes villes comme Sieam Reap et Sihanoukville, qui ne ressemblent plus à grand chose, mais il y a encore quelques coins de far west. Le Vietnam également victime du tourisme de masse , notamment sur la baie d'Halong.
Cependant tous ces pays restent agréables à visiter et facile à faire. La Thailande reste tout de même sympas, on y mange bien, ce n'est pas cher, c'est confortable mais vous n'aurez certainement pas le dépaysement tant attendu, c'est un pays très moderne, et développé. Mais vous ne serez jamais seule sur une plage déserte...
Pour éviter les zones à tourisme de masse, n'hésitez surtout pas à me communiquer vos bons conseils sur les zones à découvrir =)
Hello,
C'est pas très compliqué.. Vous ouvrez une carte de Thaïlande, vous enlevez Samui, Pattaya, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Krabi, Bangkok, et vous verrez qu'il vous reste en gros 90% du pays, ce qui laisse vous en conviendrez, un choix assez large..
Les lieux que j'ai cités ne sont pas pour autant des lieux à proscrire, disons qu'il sera plus facile de faire un choix, si votre seule obsession est ''la foule''.
Et pourtant, même à Phuket pour ne citer que cet endroit, il existe une grande partie de l'ile qui ne voit aucun touriste et qui mérite largement le détour. Sortir des sentiers battus est très simple, si l'on veut s'en donner la peine…
Et une précision de taille : la Thaïlande reçoit 3 fois moins de touristes que la France, pour une même superficie….
Et je viens de voir que vous êtes belge, alors voici :
La Belgique fait 30 000 Km2 et reçoit 7 millions de touristes par an.
La Thaïlande fait 520 000 Km2 et reçoit 30 millions de touristes par an.
Si l'on compare au nombre de touristes par KM2/an( si tenté que cela veuille dire qq chose ) :
Belgique 233 touristes au KM2/an, Thaïlande 57 touristes au KM2/an.. Ca vaut ce que ca vaut, mais ca donne une idée…
Bon donc, compte tenu de vos commentaires je vais juste essayer d'arrêter de me poser des question et donc foncer vers la Thailande comme premier voyage en Asie tout en essayant d'éviter de passer mes deux semaines dans les endroits les plus populeux de Thailande!
Le titre de votre de votre discussion m'a interpelé. En effet, la Thaïlande ne fera certainement pas partie des pays où nous retournerions volontiers. En dehors de la Birmanie que nous ne connaissons pas, nous préférons nettement les pays voisins, notamment le Vietnam.
Toutefois, la Thaïlande présente des avantages:
C'est un pays rompu à l'accueil des touristes depuis plus d'un demi-siècle. C'est donc un pays très facile à voyager et il n'y a pas besoin de visa pour un séjour touristique de moins de 30 jours.
La cuisine thaïlandaise est réputée à juste titre. Pas de problème gastrique tel qu'on a pu en connaître dans les pays voisins.
Il est possible, comme il a été dit, de s'écarter des flux touristiques et de séjourner dans des lieux peu fréquentés et néanmoins dépaysants et agréables. Si vous consultez les carnets de voyage, vous en trouverez. Je cite pêle-mêle, pour le versant culture et tradition: Phayao, Phrae, Lampang, Phitsanulok, et pour le versant farniente les pieds dans l'eau:Koh Yao Noi, Koh Jum, des îles relativement tranquilles et pourtant proches de Phuket et de Krabi. En revanche je ne conseille pas l'Isan pour un premier voyage en Asie!
Ceci étant, la Thaïlande n'a pas malheureusement le triste privilège du tourisme de masse. Il y a aussi des foules à Angkor, Luang Prabang, Bagan, dans la Baie d'Halong, etc, etc. Des touristes asiatiques et notamment chinois pour l'essentiel. A l'aéroport de Phuket le tableau d'affichage des départs est une véritable géographie de la Chine et il en est de même à Siem Reap!!! 🙁
- On y trouve ce que l'on souhaite, des endroits très touristiques au petit village de l'Issan qui a vu arriver un Européen pour la première fois en avril de cette année (f'in européen....je suis Suisse, interprétation à votre convenance).
- Tout y est assez facile. Se déplacer, se loger, manger, visiter. Que cela soit pour des petits budgets ou des budgets plus larges.
Je rejoindrai les autres intervenants sur le fait que l'Issan n'est peut-être pas le meilleur choix pour un voyage de noce. Quoi que....tout dépend de ce que l'on recherche.
Il ne reste plus qu'à préparer votre voyage, en fonction de vos envies et de votre budget :-)
L'éternité c'est très long....surtout vers la fin (Woody Allen)
Ne suis pas tout à fait d'accord avec la dernière phrase de votre post. Il existe encore des plages désertes ou très peu fréquentées, mais encore faut il se donner les moyens de les trouver. Valable pour Samui, Khao Lak ou même Kho Chang , même en pleine saison touristique.
Par ailleurs, il semblerait que son arrière-pays devienne une contrée d'étude indispensable à tout ethnologue digne de ce nom.
Pourquoi vous montrez-vous ironique envers les gens qui conseillent ou voyagent en dehors des itineraires tracés pour touristes? Je ne comprends pas pourriez-vous développer s'il vous plait?
Jamais bien compris l'enthousiasme délirant qu'on trouvait à quelques semaines en Creuse, mais bon...chacun son idée du paradis.
C est pourtant simple à comprendre si l'on s'en donne la peine, les raisons sont multiples.
Et oui la Thaïlande a beaucoup, beaucoup changée. Nous y allons depuis 30 ans et nous avons toujours autant de plaisir à y retourner!! Il y a effectivement beaucoup de monde, mais le Grand Palais, le Wat Arun, le Wat Pho c'est quand même magnifique. Est-ce que l'on déconseille au gens de visiter la France parce qu'il y a trop de touristes?
Et en évitant Pattaya , une partie de Phuket, Koh Samui, il y a de très beaux endroits au bord de la mer (Koh Kood, Koh kradang...) Alors allez y sans hésitations.
Ah les touristes!!!! Ces gens qui nous ressemblent et qui vont au même endroit au même moment! Quelle plaie! Pourquoi ne vont ils pas là où c’est moche au lieu de se concentrer là où c’est beau?
S’il y a du tourisme en Thaïlande, dans l’ensemble c’est plutôt bon signe. J’habite Paris et je comprends tous les jours la venue des touristes.
Oui la Thaïlande vaut encore la peine
Chère Vanilla avez-vous entendu parler des "Iles Vanilles"? Sans doute pas hèlas et vous avez déjà opté pour la Thaïlande ! Et pourtant en matière de Voyage de Noces nous pensions être incontournables avec Maurice en première ligne! Bon, vu votre pseudo je n'ai pas pu résister à vous envoyer ce post honteusement publicitaire.
Ah les touristes!!!! Ces gens qui nous ressemblent et qui vont au même endroit au même moment! Quelle plaie! Pourquoi ne vont ils pas là où c’est moche au lieu de se concentrer là où c’est beau?
Faut arrêter d'écouter les bobos pour lesquels les vrais voyageurs sont ceux qui vont dans des coins improbables et qui méprisent ceux qui font du tourisme "grand public"...
Les mêmes qui vont voir du cinéma coréen et méprisent une bonne comédie franchouillarde...
Se demandent-ils si ca vaut encore le coup de visiter la France pour des étrangers, quand on voit la queue à la Tour Eiffel...😠
Bref, bien sûr que la Thaïlande se découvre encore, et encore heureux.
Oui, il y a des coins ou il y a plus d'occidentaux que de locaux, mais c'est bien parce que tout le monde a la même (bonne) idée.
Bangkok, ca grouille, mais c'est le charme de la ville.
Soit rassurée, il y a toujours en Thaïlande des temples, des moines, des rizières, des forêts, des statues de Bouddha, des falaises calcaires, des cocotiers au bord des plages, des tuk-tuk, des glaces coco au bord des routes, des stands de rue...
Vas-y, fonce 🙂
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Maintenant qu’on a bien rigolé sur les touristes....oui il y a des lieux à éviter en Thaïlande si on cherche la tranquillité avec plus ou moins du monde. En réalité ce n’est pas la quantité de touristes au même endroit qui est un problème à mon sens mais les activités qui leur sont proposées ou qu’ils recherchent ....si c’est du sexe par exemple comme une partie de Pataya...ou des sports à moteurs sur l’eau genre jet ski qui pourri toute une plage comme sur certaines plages de Koh Samui ou si les constructions débordent de tous les côtés comme à Patong ou encore Pataya ou mangent la plage comme à Koh Phi Phi....ou quand la fête de la lune est proposée presque tous les soirs...et que la musique résonne à des kilomètres.
Choisissez votre destination en fonction de ce qui vous fait rêver de découvrir puis revenez sur ce forum pour vérifier des détails.
Pour un 1er voyage en Thaïlande la découverte des lieux sur la route classique entre Bangkok et Chiang Mai, avec le train et le bus pour vous transporter me paraît simple à organiser. Derrière choisissez votre île en vérifiant la météo...
ou des sports à moteurs sur l’eau genre jet ski qui pourri toute une plage comme sur certaines plages de Koh Samui
Amusant d'ailleurs d'observer les plages de Samui: quelques kilomètres parcourus et la sociologie balnéaire change du tout au tout: nationalités, densité, clientèle, activités...
Pour ma part, je n'ai pas de souci personnel avec le tourisme consumériste, l'essentiel étant de rester conscient du touriste qu'on peut être chacun à tel ou tel moment.
En revanche, je trouve que les comportements dans les temples de certains profanes occidentaux , et qui feraient bondir n'importe lequel d'entre eux s'il visitait Notre-Dame de Paris, sont assez révélateurs d'un certain tourisme ignorant.
A tel point qu'on a posté des surveillants anglophones dans les plus visités, voire comme au Wat Pra Yai manquant clairement de diplomatie.
Je suis en voyage pour plusieurs mois en Asie et au retour deux mariages s enchainent... J aimerais avoir l adresse de bons tailleurs soit a BGK ou nous nous…
La Thailande vaut elle vraimment le coup: ce que je veux dire, est ce qu on ne se sent pas comme a lloret de mar ou ibiza? reste t il encore des coins calme et…
Je compte me diriger vers Chiang Khan en quittant Sukhothai, pensez vous que ca vaille le coup que je fasse un arret a Loei qui est sur le trajet? Merci a+
J'ai lu sur plusieurs forums que des personnes ont déjà eu des problèmes avec des chiens errants. Vous avez des trucs pour gérer la situation quand ça se…
Je part le mois prochain pour un mois en Thailande. J'aimerai passer 3 jours environ sur Kanchanaburi, je sais pas pourquoi mais cet endroit m'attire. Je me…
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
Martine
Je cherche la perle rare pour mon 3eme séjour sur Koh Lanta : un bel hotel qualitatif au bord d' une plage facile d'accès dans un endroit animé.
Si vous connaissez quelque chose qui s'apparente à ma recherche et que vous souhaitez partager n' hésitez pas.
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!