Voyge en Israël pour un Marocain?
by Flaterman
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour
avant de decider de partir vers une destination qui reste plus au moins accesible au marok1 et aux arabes en general qui est israel est-ce-qu'on aura besoin de visa, j'ai entendu parler d'un entretien à l'aeroport si quelqu'un pourra m'eclairer la dessus à vos plumes les amis :)
Pour connaître les formalités ( visa, ect...) , vous devez vous renseigner à l'ambassade d'Israël de votre pays d'origine et effectivement répondre à plusieurs questions d'ordre sécuritaire avant l'embarquement dans l'avion. Ce n'est pas qu'un simple entretien et chacun y est soumis, arabe ou non.
Les questions continueront à votre arrivée à Ben Gourion. Il ne s'agit pas d'interrogatoire vous visant personnellement. La méfiance est de rigueur quelque soit la nationalité des voyageurs.
S'il n'y a pas de représentation diplomatique israélienne dans votre pays, je vous conseille de changer de destination. Ce n'est pas la peine de chercher les soucis. La vie est assez compliquée. Les Israéliens ne s'aventurent pas non plus dans certains pays du Moyen Orient où leur vie risque de devenir compliquée.
Si vous êtes juif marocain, vous pourriez passer par la France et de là contacter l'ambassade d'Israël à Paris.
S'il n'y a pas de représentation diplomatique israélienne dans votre pays, je vous conseille de changer de destination. Ce n'est pas la peine de chercher les soucis. La vie est assez compliquée. Les Israéliens ne s'aventurent pas non plus dans certains pays du Moyen Orient où leur vie risque de devenir compliquée.
Si vous êtes juif marocain, vous pourriez passer par la France et de là contacter l'ambassade d'Israël à Paris.
il n y a pas d'ambassade israelien au maroc
Il ne s'agit pas d'interrogatoire vous visant personnellement.
Bien sûr que si ! L'interrogatoire vise personnellement la personne interrogée.
Bien sûr que si ! L'interrogatoire vise personnellement la personne interrogée.
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Ce que je voulais dire est que personne ne doit se sentir " visé personnellement ".
Bien sûr, il s'agit d'un interrogatoire personnel !
Mais c'est une routine, un passage obligé, cela fait partie de la procédure, c'était mon message.
Tu peux te renseigner aupres d'une Ambassade israelienne mais il faut savoir qu'en tant que Marocain, tu seras retenu pendant des heures voire plusieurs jours des ton arrivee a l'aeroport, et qu'il y a des grandes chances pour que tu de toutes facons sois interdit d'entree en Israel et remis dans un avion, sauf si tu est venu dans le cadre d'un sejour d'affaires ou diplomatique pre-organise. Les touristes en provenance de pays arabes ne sont pas acceptes en Israel, c'est une regle officieuse mais permanente.
il faut savoir qu'en tant que Marocain, tu seras retenu pendant des heures voire plusieurs jours des ton arrivee a l'aeroport
vraiment trop drole! 😏
vraiment trop drole! 😏
Pas tres drole, non, de passer des heures et des heures et des heures a repondre a des questions aberrantes sur sa vie privee.
Les touristes citoyens des pays arabes sont refoules dans 95% des cas. Seules les personnes venant en voyage d'affaires ou pour raisons diplomatiques peuvent entrer. C'est comme cela depuis de longues annees.
Les touristes citoyens des pays arabes sont refoules dans 95% des cas. Seules les personnes venant en voyage d'affaires ou pour raisons diplomatiques peuvent entrer. C'est comme cela depuis de longues annees.
pas gardé des jours; et cela ne concerne pas tous les pays arabes
on peut avoir les references de ce que tu affirmes?
tu sais meme a CDG il y a des cellules.
tu sais meme a CDG il y a des cellules.
Arretez le delire sur Israel s' il vous plait. J' ai la femme d' un cousin qui viens nous voir tous les ans en Israel. Elle est Arabe, musulmane et Tunisienne et n' a jamais eu aucun probleme a l' aeroport Ben Gourion. En outre Il y a des centaines de pelerins musulmans qui viennent en visite en Israel chaque annee, comme des magrebine dans des groupes organises ou seuls sans qu' il ne leur arrive absolument quoi que ce soit en Israel!
Ezechias
moi aussi je connais plusieurs marocains qui ont été sans aucuns problemes.
c'est la raison pour laquelle, je lui demandais de donner ses sources.
c'est la raison pour laquelle, je lui demandais de donner ses sources.
Bonjour,
Je suppose que cette personne porte la nationalité tunisienne, elle est arabe et musulmane mais d'après ce que j'ai compris de votre message elle est épouse de votre cousin, donc épouse d'un feuj.
Cette personne habite en Europe ou en Tunisie ? Elle fait un visa avant d'aller en Israël ? Vous lui envoyer des documents d'Israël ?
Veuillez svp me donner plus de détails sur ce voyage.
Merci d'avance.
Je suppose que cette personne porte la nationalité tunisienne, elle est arabe et musulmane mais d'après ce que j'ai compris de votre message elle est épouse de votre cousin, donc épouse d'un feuj.
Cette personne habite en Europe ou en Tunisie ? Elle fait un visa avant d'aller en Israël ? Vous lui envoyer des documents d'Israël ?
Veuillez svp me donner plus de détails sur ce voyage.
Merci d'avance.
Simo
Cette personne habite en Europe ou en Tunisie ? Elle fait un visa avant d'aller en Israël ? Vous lui envoyer des documents d'Israël ? Veuillez svp me donner plus de détails sur ce voyage.
Bonsoir Simo,
Pourquoi ce ton comminatoire ? Tu es devenu préposé aux demandes de voyages en Israel ?
Danielle
Bonsoir Simo,
Pourquoi ce ton comminatoire ? Tu es devenu préposé aux demandes de voyages en Israel ?
Danielle
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
Le Maroc, Deuxième pays dans le monde arabe à visiter Israël, à 2800 Touristes en 2009.
Le bureau central israélien des statistiques a révélé que le nombre de touristes marocains qui ont visité Israël au cours de l'année écoulée s'élève à environ 2794 personnes. A la tête de liste des touristes arabes, les jordaniens, à environ 17 mille touristes, le Maroc 2794, l'Egypte 2570 et Tunisie à 1145, sans compter les touristes qui montent à bord des navires, ce qui signifie que ces chiffres devraient augmenter. La liste ne comprend pas tout autre pays arabe, ce qui signifie seuls ces quatre pays arabes qui permettent à leurs citoyens à visiter Israël.
Les activités touristiques sont effectuées à travers la France et la Turquie, surtout que la Turquie n'exige pas de visa pour les Marocains, ainsi nombreuses agences touristiques israéliennes ont signé des partenariats avec des agences marocaines notamment à Marrakech.
D'autre part, le centre mentionne que le nombre des juifs qui ont immigré vers Israël en provenance du Maroc s’élève à 211, enregistrant le plus grand record des pays arabes, qui ont connu des migrations, il s’agit de la Tunisie, l'Algérie, l'Irak, l'Egypte et le Soudan.
Selon la même source, au moment où les exportations Marocaines vers Israël ont été stables durant les deux dernières années, les importations marocaines en provenance d'Israël ont augmenté par rapport à 2008.
Tous ces marocains voyagent en Israël en absence d’ambassade d’Israël au Maroc, je demande si une personne peut me renseigner sur les moyens. Si tu veux mon avis personnel, je ne suis pas contre la destination Israël.
Le bureau central israélien des statistiques a révélé que le nombre de touristes marocains qui ont visité Israël au cours de l'année écoulée s'élève à environ 2794 personnes. A la tête de liste des touristes arabes, les jordaniens, à environ 17 mille touristes, le Maroc 2794, l'Egypte 2570 et Tunisie à 1145, sans compter les touristes qui montent à bord des navires, ce qui signifie que ces chiffres devraient augmenter. La liste ne comprend pas tout autre pays arabe, ce qui signifie seuls ces quatre pays arabes qui permettent à leurs citoyens à visiter Israël.
Les activités touristiques sont effectuées à travers la France et la Turquie, surtout que la Turquie n'exige pas de visa pour les Marocains, ainsi nombreuses agences touristiques israéliennes ont signé des partenariats avec des agences marocaines notamment à Marrakech.
D'autre part, le centre mentionne que le nombre des juifs qui ont immigré vers Israël en provenance du Maroc s’élève à 211, enregistrant le plus grand record des pays arabes, qui ont connu des migrations, il s’agit de la Tunisie, l'Algérie, l'Irak, l'Egypte et le Soudan.
Selon la même source, au moment où les exportations Marocaines vers Israël ont été stables durant les deux dernières années, les importations marocaines en provenance d'Israël ont augmenté par rapport à 2008.
Tous ces marocains voyagent en Israël en absence d’ambassade d’Israël au Maroc, je demande si une personne peut me renseigner sur les moyens. Si tu veux mon avis personnel, je ne suis pas contre la destination Israël.
Simo
je demande si une personne peut me renseigner sur les moyens.
Je parlais du ton utilisé dans ta réponse: on aurait dit un interrogatoire policier !
Je parlais du ton utilisé dans ta réponse: on aurait dit un interrogatoire policier !
A man, a plan, a canal, Panama - palindrome, auteur inconnu
En tant que marocain, il n'y a pas vraiment de probleme. Le probleme est pour les algeriens qui ne reconnaisse pas Israel donc on enormement de formalité a remplir au prealable en France. Apres ça depend de ta nationalité, si t'es français d'origine marocaine, il n'y a aucun soucie au niveau des formalités mais tu n'echappera pas à l'interrogatoire. L'ideal pour passer sans encombre et de se trouver un alibis, exemple, tu va faire la fete a Tel Aviv, et tu as les habits de tefeur dans ton sac qui vont avec, et un discours qui tient la route, renseigne toi via internet sur les fetes, les soirées qui s'y passent... Meme si ton but reel est d'aller a Al Aqsa. L'interrogatoire peut durer plusieurs heures mais pas des jours. Beaucoup d'arabe de nationalité française passe, le truc c'est juste qu'il faut trouver le bon alibi
Je parle d'un marocain habitant le Maroc avec un passeport vert.
Vous parlez de fêtes de juives, la seule fête juive que je connais là où je déguise c'est pourim.
Pourim de cette année est passé ça fait quelques semaines, mais je suppose que je connais une date d'une fête ? On doit faire comment ?
Prendre un billet Casablanca tel aviv via Istanbul par exemple c'est tout ?
Vous parlez de fêtes de juives, la seule fête juive que je connais là où je déguise c'est pourim.
Pourim de cette année est passé ça fait quelques semaines, mais je suppose que je connais une date d'une fête ? On doit faire comment ?
Prendre un billet Casablanca tel aviv via Istanbul par exemple c'est tout ?
Simo
israel 🤪, j'espère que tu visiteras aussi gaza pour te donner une idée de ce peuple colonisateur et des pratiques horribles Vive les droits de l'hommes
Etre humain;c'est aimer les hommes
Etre sage;c'est les connaitres
Tout d'abord, je pense que ce site de voyages ne doit pas être un exutoire politique aux anti- de tout bord sinon on risquerait de se lâcher sur tous les pays du monde sans plus vouloir voyager nulle part.
En effet, aux remarques sur Israël, on pourrait alors vous proposer d'aller faire un tour chez les voisins et de vous concentrer, non seulement sur les droits de l'homme mais aussi sur celui des femmes.
A bon entendeur, salut et bon week-end à tous
En effet, aux remarques sur Israël, on pourrait alors vous proposer d'aller faire un tour chez les voisins et de vous concentrer, non seulement sur les droits de l'homme mais aussi sur celui des femmes.
A bon entendeur, salut et bon week-end à tous
non ce n'est pas un executoire mais je donne mon avis et je souhaite que tout le monde face la meme chose sur chaque pays qu'il à visité ou en prévision
si les avis sont négatifs sur certain pays soit en sur je n'irais pas c'est la solidarité des voyageurs
après tu peux toujours dire que c'est de la politique 🤪
Etre humain;c'est aimer les hommes
Etre sage;c'est les connaitres
La solidarité des voyageurs ? Mais pour rien au monde je ne me priverais d'aller en Israël même si tous les inscrits de ce forum me le déconseillaient :-)
Aucun pays n'est comme Israël. Respirer les fleurs d'oranger au printemps, voir un coucher de soleil sur les montagnes de Judée ou traverser un parc à Jérusalem au petit matin alors que l'arrosage automatique tournicote sur les plus belles fleurs du monde en vous mouillant le visage.....
Gardons ce forum ce qu'il est : un guide utile pour les voyageurs.
Aucun pays n'est comme Israël. Respirer les fleurs d'oranger au printemps, voir un coucher de soleil sur les montagnes de Judée ou traverser un parc à Jérusalem au petit matin alors que l'arrosage automatique tournicote sur les plus belles fleurs du monde en vous mouillant le visage.....
Gardons ce forum ce qu'il est : un guide utile pour les voyageurs.
C'est un beau pays, mais il ne faut pas être naïf : c'est aussi un pays difficile pour les voyageurs qui ne sont ni blancs, ni de religion juive, car ils sont considérés comme suspects a chaque passage de frontière ou a l'aéroport, et doivent subir des procédures qui sont inimaginables en Europe. La fouille au corps imposée aux touristes chrétiens à l’aéroport au prétexte qu’ils ont visite Bethléem (située en territoire palestinien), je suis désolée, mais ça laisse une mauvaise impression du pays. Tout comme les questions d’un officier de sécurité super agressif me demandant si mon arrière grand-mère était catholique, et me disant que je ne serais pas autorisée à prendre mon avion si je ne répondais pas. Désolée, mais c’est inacceptable.
Le terrorisme laisse des traces.
le terrorisme des chretiens ou bien celui des juifs avant l'independance?
😏
Vous parlez des Croisés ?
Vous parlez des Croisés ?
c'est toi qui parle de terrorisme quand on parle des chretiens, alors a cause des croisées les controles seraient plus severes par peur qu'ils reviennent pour reconquerir jerusalem
c'est toi qui parle de terrorisme quand on parle des chretiens, alors a cause des croisées les controles seraient plus severes par peur qu'ils reviennent pour reconquerir jerusalem
Premièrement, je vous demanderai de ne pas me tutoyer car nous ne nous connaissons pas.
Deuxièmement, c'est vous qui avez suggéré le terrorisme des Chrétiens et pas moi. J'ai demandé en boutade si vous faisiez référence aux Croisades.
Troisièmement, votre ton devient singulièrement agressif.
Continuer cette conversation ne m'intéresse donc plus.
votre ton devient singulièrement agressif.
ah bon, ca ne serait pas le tien!
ah bon, ca ne serait pas le tien!
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Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
hi everyone,
I’m French and live in France, and my Thai girlfriend just told me she’s pregnant—she lives in Thailand. First step, a paternity test to set my mind at ease. What steps do I need to take to recognize the child? Can I do it before the birth or only after? Where do I need to go, and what paperwork is required?
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
Just to clarify, I want him to stay in Thailand but be able to come to France anytime without any issues! Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.





