De Yogyakarta au mont Bromo en voiture sans chauffeur
by Kafra
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Comme nous sommes une grande famille de 6 personnes, nous envisageons pour cet été de louer une voiture ( sans chauffeur ) à yogiakarta et de faire notre périple jusqu'à Bali.
J' en suis au démarrage de mon circuit et je me demande si on peut rejoindre yogyakarta au Bromo en une seule étape ( très long? ), s'il est préférable de faire une nuit d'étape, quelle ville pourrait convenir pour un stop dodo?
De m^me pour visiter le volcan Bromo , où est il préférable de séjourner ?
Je vous remercie pour vos réponses
s'il est préférable de faire une nuit d'étape, quelle ville pourrait convenir pour un stop dodo?
L'itinéraire ci dessous n'est pas celui généralement emprunté. Il évite Surabaya et ses embouteillages. Le trajet peut se faire en plusieurs étapes avec des visites à chaque étape.
Yogyakarta- Solo (Surakarta) 65 kilomètres Solo- Malang 275 kilomètres Malang -Tosari 50 kilomètres
Tosari est une porte d'entrée alternative pour la visite du Bromo.
(50 km/h est une bonne moyenne en Indonésie...)
L'itinéraire ci dessous n'est pas celui généralement emprunté. Il évite Surabaya et ses embouteillages. Le trajet peut se faire en plusieurs étapes avec des visites à chaque étape.
Yogyakarta- Solo (Surakarta) 65 kilomètres Solo- Malang 275 kilomètres Malang -Tosari 50 kilomètres
Tosari est une porte d'entrée alternative pour la visite du Bromo.
(50 km/h est une bonne moyenne en Indonésie...)
Ces étapes sont elles indispensables?
A part manger et boire, rien n'est indispensable dans la vie...😄
L'itinéraire que je proposais était un "voyage" en lui même.
Si vous n'avez pas de temps, il serait préférable de faire la route en une seule étape car Solo est trop proche de YOG et Malang de Tosari.
Une dernière solution serait de prendre la route sud et de faire étape à Tulungagung ou Blitar. Je ne connais pas cette route.
A part manger et boire, rien n'est indispensable dans la vie...😄
L'itinéraire que je proposais était un "voyage" en lui même.
Si vous n'avez pas de temps, il serait préférable de faire la route en une seule étape car Solo est trop proche de YOG et Malang de Tosari.
Une dernière solution serait de prendre la route sud et de faire étape à Tulungagung ou Blitar. Je ne connais pas cette route.
Bonsoir. Merci pour les informations. Tu dis que 50 km à l'heure est une bonne moyenne en Indonésie. Peux tu me dire pourquoi:est ce par ce que les routes sont encombrées par tout type de véhicule? OÙ est ce parce que les routes sont en très mauvais état? route de montagne avec virages en épingle à cheveux? Ou autres raisons?
Beaucoup, beaucoup de monde ! (Des piétons, des activités, des véhicules...)
Et ce ne sont pas des autoroutes.
De plus, tu as dans certains coins l'impression de ne jamais sortir d'un interminable village.
Et ce ne sont pas des autoroutes.
De plus, tu as dans certains coins l'impression de ne jamais sortir d'un interminable village.
Je ne connais pas "bien" les routes de Java. Ce sont juste des souvenirs de voyage.
Tu loues un véhicule sur place?
En Asie, il est très facile de trouver un moyen de transport un jour pour le lendemain.
Je suppose que tu vas rester quelques nuits sur Yog. Tu pourras donc consacrer 2 heures à faire le tour des agences conseillées sur les guides pour trouver ton bonheur.😉
(En revanche, je suis aussi sceptique sur la possibilité de circuler sur une autre île avec la voiture de location)
Tu peux aussi commencer à jeter un oeil sur ces agences.
Tu loues un véhicule sur place?
En Asie, il est très facile de trouver un moyen de transport un jour pour le lendemain.
Je suppose que tu vas rester quelques nuits sur Yog. Tu pourras donc consacrer 2 heures à faire le tour des agences conseillées sur les guides pour trouver ton bonheur.😉
(En revanche, je suis aussi sceptique sur la possibilité de circuler sur une autre île avec la voiture de location)
Tu peux aussi commencer à jeter un oeil sur ces agences.
Bonjour,
si vous êtes pas du tout habituer de vous
rendre en voiture en Asie ou Indonésie
moi, je vous conseille de ne pas le faire.
Le mieux est de prendre une bus avec chauffeur.
vous pouvez louer une bus pour 9 personnes. En
plus les 'codes' de route en Indonésie est très
differentes de la france!! Du monde, beaucoup de
virage, les routes mauvais.
En Indonésie on roule à gauche et le route vers
le Bromo est vraiment très dangereux et fatiguant.
si vous voulez le faire en une fois ce sera encore
plus fatiguant.
Bonjour,
j'hésite encore entre réserver un "tour" de 3 jours/2 nuits de Yog vers Bromo, Ijen puis ferry vers Bali, et faire la même chose en 4 jours/3 nuits avec une voiture avec chauffeur. Cette option est certes beaucoup plus chère mais plus reposante, je pense. Ta proposition d'itinéraire me tente aussi beaucoup, et en voiture sans chauffeur c'est pas mal non plus (on a l'habitude de rouler en Asie). Peux-tu me dire ce que tu conseilles de visiter aux étapes que tu mentionnes ?
Penses-tu qu'il est possible de laisser la voiture à Ketapang puisque nous prendrons le ferry vers Bali.
Merci pour tes réponses.
j'hésite encore entre réserver un "tour" de 3 jours/2 nuits de Yog vers Bromo, Ijen puis ferry vers Bali, et faire la même chose en 4 jours/3 nuits avec une voiture avec chauffeur. Cette option est certes beaucoup plus chère mais plus reposante, je pense. Ta proposition d'itinéraire me tente aussi beaucoup, et en voiture sans chauffeur c'est pas mal non plus (on a l'habitude de rouler en Asie). Peux-tu me dire ce que tu conseilles de visiter aux étapes que tu mentionnes ?
Penses-tu qu'il est possible de laisser la voiture à Ketapang puisque nous prendrons le ferry vers Bali.
Merci pour tes réponses.
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A Solo, il existe un "kraton " à visiter.
Aux alentours, se trouvent deux temples perdus dans les collines (sukuh et ceto). C'est en pleine campagne (plantation de thé, rizière).
J'ai gardé un très bon souvenir de ces lieux.
Malang est plus une ville étape. Il y a un marché aux oiseaux et dans les environs se trouvent aussi de petits temples que je n'ai pas eu le temps de visiter.
C'est beaucoup moins touristique que Yog et le Bromo.
Penses-tu qu'il est possible de laisser la voiture à Ketapang puisque nous prendrons le ferry vers Bali.
Je ne pense pas que tu puisses faire ceci en Indonésie. La location de voiture n'y est pas développée comme en France.
Si tu veux faire ce circuit sans revenir à Yog, il faudra prendre une voiture avec chauffeur et payer le retour à vide du véhicule (une journée de loc de plus).
J'ai gardé un très bon souvenir de ces lieux.
Malang est plus une ville étape. Il y a un marché aux oiseaux et dans les environs se trouvent aussi de petits temples que je n'ai pas eu le temps de visiter.
C'est beaucoup moins touristique que Yog et le Bromo.
Penses-tu qu'il est possible de laisser la voiture à Ketapang puisque nous prendrons le ferry vers Bali.
Je ne pense pas que tu puisses faire ceci en Indonésie. La location de voiture n'y est pas développée comme en France.
Si tu veux faire ce circuit sans revenir à Yog, il faudra prendre une voiture avec chauffeur et payer le retour à vide du véhicule (une journée de loc de plus).
Merci !
Tu voyageais avec quel moyen de transport ?
Tu voyageais avec quel moyen de transport ?
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J'avais loué une voiture avec chauffeur.
Encore 3 dernières questions, si tu veux bien...
Combien avais-tu payé et pour combien de jours, et où l'avais-tu trouvé ?
Merci, merci 😉
Combien avais-tu payé et pour combien de jours, et où l'avais-tu trouvé ?
Merci, merci 😉
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C'est pas récent... ( Mais pas d'il y a un siècle quand même !😉)
Un truc du genre 50 euros par jour (voiture, essence, parking, chauffeur et son logement+nourriture).
J'avais pris les adresses d'agence de voyage du LP et j'avais fait affaire avec l'une d'entre elles mais je ne saurais plus te dire laquelle...😊
C'était pas encore vraiment dans leur "catalogue" mais comme souvent dans les pays asiatiques, tout est possible au pied levé !😉
Un truc du genre 50 euros par jour (voiture, essence, parking, chauffeur et son logement+nourriture).
J'avais pris les adresses d'agence de voyage du LP et j'avais fait affaire avec l'une d'entre elles mais je ne saurais plus te dire laquelle...😊
C'était pas encore vraiment dans leur "catalogue" mais comme souvent dans les pays asiatiques, tout est possible au pied levé !😉
Merci beaucoup !
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Merci !
Tu voyageais avec quel moyen de transport ?
Bonjour, J'ai pas mal voyagé en Asie, et coté Indonésie fait du scooter a Bali, Lombok et Flores mais conduire une voiture entre Yogya et Malang ou Probolinggo, non merci : circulation d'enfer, bus a fond (car chauffeur payé au km) donc très dangereux, trajet tres long, ... en + au moindre accrochage c'est la galère assurée (voir la prison), pas d'assurance .. etc En + l'écart de prix entre une voiture avec ou sans chauffeur est minime et il n'y aura pas de pb pour faire jouer la concurrence a Yogya Bon voyage
Tu voyageais avec quel moyen de transport ?
Bonjour, J'ai pas mal voyagé en Asie, et coté Indonésie fait du scooter a Bali, Lombok et Flores mais conduire une voiture entre Yogya et Malang ou Probolinggo, non merci : circulation d'enfer, bus a fond (car chauffeur payé au km) donc très dangereux, trajet tres long, ... en + au moindre accrochage c'est la galère assurée (voir la prison), pas d'assurance .. etc En + l'écart de prix entre une voiture avec ou sans chauffeur est minime et il n'y aura pas de pb pour faire jouer la concurrence a Yogya Bon voyage
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Merci !
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We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
hi
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
I’ll be on a cruise on January 11, 2027. We’re stopping in Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My).
I’d love to see something other than the city—anyone have recommendations or a guide for 6-8 people with pickup at the port?
I’d really like to visit some rice paddies.
Hi there,
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!



