What to choose for a first summer trip to Asia: Indonesia or Thailand?
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
If I don’t want to go to Bali, it’s also because I’m afraid of ending up in a landscape like this (see photo here)

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You can find this kind of landscape anywhere in the world, even in Belgium. Illegal dumps exist everywhere—except maybe in Switzerland. Usually, you stumble upon them by accident, but this isn’t what you see in a Balinese landscape. In this case, it’s in Java, in the mangroves of Surabaya—not exactly a tourist hotspot! Indonesia, like Thailand, isn’t a model when it comes to waste management. What I can say is that, generally, the most touristy islands (or parts of islands) are the best preserved—let’s just say the waste is better hidden ;). Tourism demands it! In Bali, beaches and tourist sites like temples are regularly cleaned, which isn’t the case on other islands. I’ve seen "beaches" in some parts of Sulawesi (for example) that aren’t frequented by Western tourists—littered with trash. They were real dumps! Even remote islands like the Togians aren’t spared. The sea washes everything onto the shores, everywhere! Bali isn’t immune, but it’s regularly "cleaned up," so it’s less noticeable in the landscape.
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
It's interesting because when you get into the practical details, new factors (routes, infrastructure) come up that might change your choice.

It's better this way because if you had started by asking something like, "I'm torn between these countries—like a 600-page guidebook for each, tell me everything I need to know without missing a thing so I can decide,"* you probably wouldn’t have gotten many precise answers—just stuff like "check out my blog."

* That actually happens sometimes.

Just for "local" flights (from KL or SG onward), how much could that roughly cost per person?

No, because it’s impossible to even give a rough estimate with so many flights involved. Plus, that’s a lot of work I’ll leave to you. To avoid airline websites that glitch (not all of them) because they don’t like foreign IP addresses—or sites that are just overly complicated—for Indonesia, I recommend running your searches on a site like this one: https://en.tiket.com/pesawat. For example, right now, I see that for K.Lumpur-Labuan Bajo on 16/07/2026, it’s 103 € per person with a carry-on but no meal or checked baggage (you can add that on the page where you enter your details). Don’t forget: - Not all flights run daily (for example, I first tried 15/07 for the flight above). - You’ll also see non-direct options (again, for 15/07, only "1 or 2 layovers"). Direct flights usually appear first on the selected date, marked "direct" or "1 layover" under the flight duration. - Some airlines don’t include checked baggage unless you pay extra (check the "what's included" section once you’ve selected a flight).

Do these flights also need to be booked in advance?

In July-August, yes.

I don’t know, but from a practical standpoint, if I leave Belgium for southern Italy (2.5-hour flight), it takes me a whole day (especially with a kid who doesn’t have an adult’s patience and needs breaks). In the morning, we get ready. In the early afternoon, we head to the train station to catch a bus to the airport, where we make sure to arrive at least 2 hours early to go through security at a relaxed pace and handle any unexpected crowds. The flight leaves in the late afternoon (5-6 PM). We land in the evening (8-9 PM), and by the time we reach our accommodation, it’s nighttime.

Yep, it’s the same over there—often, even a short flight can eat up most of your day unless you’re taking an early-morning flight. However: - 2 to 3 of the flights would be domestic, so no police checks, and you only need to be at the airport an hour before departure. - In small towns, the (also small) airports are rarely far from the city center, so no need for a metro or train. And given the cost of living in Indonesia, you’ll think twice before hesitating to take a taxi or similar.

If that’s the case, all these flights seem like they’d take up a week out of the five planned. Am I misjudging this, or is that realistic?

A week, including the intercontinental flights, yes. But don’t count it as if all the flights happen back-to-back.

Also, if you’re worried your daughter won’t handle the 13-hour direct flight to KUL or SGP well, there are great airlines like Qatar Airways, Emirates, or Etihad* that require a layover in the Gulf (international zone) for a few hours. Sure, it makes the flight longer, but at least you can stretch your legs outside the plane for 2-3 hours, wander around the duty-free shops, etc. Another perk: these flights are often cheaper than direct ones.

* Few European travelers to Southeast Asia haven’t flown with at least one of these airlines...

One more important thing no one’s mentioned yet (unless I missed it): on Flores, public transport between towns is slow, uncomfortable, and infrequent (though it does exist between all the towns along "the" road that crosses the island). The upside: you’ll have an easier time connecting with locals—even more so with a young child in your group. Expect offers to hold her on their lap. And if she’s blonde...
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Between towns on Flores, public transport is slow, uncomfortable, and infrequent (but it does exist between all the towns along "the" road that crosses the whole island).

Personally, I took shared taxis. The experience was less of a hassle than the buses in Java or Flores.

The most uncomfortable part of Flores is for those who can’t handle winding roads.
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DO DomBegga ·
If I understand correctly, Flores is a bit "adventurous." That’s what attracts me because it seems like the kind of place where you really connect with a world far removed from our Western civilization—that’s what makes travel so interesting. But on the other hand, safety and budget are important too (can’t have it all, right?—I get it!)

I’ll go read Gange’s experience, think it over a bit, and come back later to share my updates.

Since we’ve been talking about work and chatting for a while now, I’m starting to feel like I know you all a little, and there’s a question burning on my lips, Songsam: do you have any professional interest in answering questions on this blog, or is it purely volunteer work that lets you share your passion?

Anyway, good night!
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Hello, what's great about Flores is renting a boat for a little cruise around the islands—it's pretty unforgettable.

Just a heads-up about traveling in Indonesia with a little one: it can be a bit of a hassle with a stroller because there aren’t proper sidewalks in many cities.

No particular risks with kids otherwise, except, like everywhere, being careful around pools that aren’t fenced.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Adventurous isn’t really the word that comes to mind for Flores.

Less touristy.
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
Do you have any professional interest in answering questions on this blog, or is it purely volunteer work that lets you share your passion?

Your question is kind of offensive. No, I don’t have any professional, financial, or monetary interest—direct or indirect. Just the desire to share my experience, with answers or suggestions that are always well-reasoned, otherwise there’s no point in writing them. That’s why my replies can sometimes be a bit long-winded.
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
You're so knowledgeable about so many regions that we think you're a pro. Rarely seen such a nice compliment! 😎
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DO DomBegga ·
I was thinking the same thing...
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
I was thinking the same thing...

Well, I’m competing with Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize 😉
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DO DomBegga ·
You would’ve already won it then!
GA Gange Regular ·
I’m a bit late to the party... I only got back a week ago after my big month in Thailand, among other places. I replied to your private message in general terms, but I see you’ve already made your choice. But as I told you, even if you end up going to Indonesia, keep Thailand in mind for another time (since I understand you’ll mostly travel in the summer to have more days off). The monsoon isn’t really a deal-breaker (unless you want to go trekking for 3 days and get lost in the northern mountains or ride a scooter on winding roads with your kid on the back). Anyway, it’s really super safe with kids. And honestly, our trip was amazing with the added bonus that it wasn’t packed with tourists—since a lot of people hesitate because of the monsoon, you get to enjoy things without the huge crowds (though it’s still very touristy, don’t imagine it’s deserted😛). That’s mainly what made me hesitate with Indonesia (since I was aiming for Bali, which is also very touristy).

For the flight tickets, bought at the end of March for a mid-July departure, direct flight Paris <> Bangkok with Aircalin (a French airline that serves New Caledonia and stops in Bangkok), 3,600 € for the 3 tickets. Well, mid-July to mid-August is the most expensive time, plus direct flights... there were cheaper options with layovers, around 3,100 € for the 3 tickets at the time! Domestic flights are great (European airlines should take notes) and the prices are super reasonable (for example: 39 € for a Chiang Rai > Bangkok flight with Thai Airways, checked baggage included).

Either way, I think you’ll have a wonderful trip. Indonesia is definitely on my list too.
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AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hi Air Câlin flight times: CDG 8:50 PM - BKK 2:25 PM BKK 9:40 AM - CDG 5:00 PM Food for thought!!!!
aroythai
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Hi,

Food for thought!!!!

Why?
GA Gange Regular ·
I was asking myself the same thing😛!!! Well, I just booked the flight without overthinking it—I went for the cheapest direct option at the time. Nothing negative to report; I found the service on par with Air France—nothing exceptional, but decent. The little bonus? It made me want to visit New Caledonia 😎 (for the landscapes)
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AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hello,

Food for thought!!!!

Why?

Hello, The schedules, quite simply!!!

Always direct flights:

Air France: CDG 4:30 PM - BKK 9:15 AM THAI AIRWAYS: CDG 12:30 PM - BKK 6:00 AM

Air France: BKK 11:30 AM - CDG 6:30 PM THAI AIRWAYS: BKK 12:05 AM - CDG 6:50 AM
aroythai
SO Songsam Veteran ·
So? I still don’t get what you’re getting at.
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Yeah? I still don’t get what you’re getting at.

Hi, Just the return flight with Air Câlin:

BKK 9:40 AM – CDG 5:00 PM To check in and drop off your luggage, you need to be there at least 3 hours before departure. That means 6:40 AM. Plus, depending on where you’re coming from, 1 to 1.5 hours of travel time. So, leaving at 5:00 AM.
aroythai
GA Gange Regular ·
BKK 9H40 – CDG 17h00To check in and drop off luggage You need to arrive at least 3 hours before departure That means 6:40 AM

That’s not exactly the reality. You have to understand that the flight comes from New Caledonia, so most travelers have already checked in from there, which means there are very few people at check-in in BKK. Personally, we arrived at the airport at 8 AM (for the flight that actually leaves at 9:50 AM), I had checked in online the day before, and that was more than enough. So you have to take that into account—it’s different for other airlines where everyone checks in at BKK, so there’s a line. After that, it’s very personal—3 hours before is for some airports/destinations, 2 hours is enough at BKK, 2 hours 30 minutes if you’re a bit stressed. And on top of that, for Aircalin, since very few people check in at BKK, as I mentioned above.

And the possibility of where you’re coming from—1h to 1h 30m of travel 5:00 AM departure

Well, that’s up to everyone to decide. Personally, I stayed at a hotel near BKK (8 minutes from the airport, their shuttle cost 100 baht for 3 people) that costs 49 € per night. The next morning, I was downstairs at 7:45 AM for the shuttle—definitely not 5:00 AM...

There are many ways to travel, I think. Everyone should adapt based on their budget, personality, stress level, etc...
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AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Hi there, Of course, everyone travels in their own way. I’ve taken the BKK-CDG route more than 40 times (with or without layovers), and I’ve never missed a flight. I always make it a habit to arrive early for check-in and baggage drop-off, and I’ll keep doing that. You can always check in online the day before to save time, but don’t forget there’s a strict deadline for dropping off your bags.
aroythai
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Simply the return flight with Air Câlin

BKK 9:40 AM – CDG 5:00 PM To check in and drop off luggage You need to arrive at least 3 hours before departure That means 6:40 AM Plus the possibility of where you're coming from 1 to 1.5 hours of travel time Leaving at 5:00 AM

I agree with the reasoning—it’s what I do too—and I’d add the issue of traffic jams, which you should never underestimate. So for an international flight that early, I try not to book it if possible. That said, Gange’s reasoning makes sense too, but I don’t want to "waste" a night in a hotel near the airport. Even though fewer passengers board in this case (so shorter check-in lines), the wait time at Immigration and the length of the corridors you have to walk don’t get any shorter.
AR Aroythai Globetrotter ·
Simply the return flight with Air Câlin

BKK 9:40 AM – CDG 5:00 PM To check in and drop off luggage You need to arrive at least 3 hours before departure That means 6:40 AM Plus the possibility of where you're coming from 1 to 1.5 hours of travel time So, departure at 5:00 AM

I agree with the reasoning—it’s what I do too—and I also factor in traffic jams, which you should never underestimate. So, for an international flight that early, I try not to book it if possible. That said, Gange’s reasoning makes sense too, but I don’t want to "waste" a night in a hotel near the airport. Even if fewer passengers board in this case, meaning shorter lines at check-in, the wait time at Immigration and the length of the corridors you have to walk don’t get any shorter.

For the Air Calin flight Nouméa – CDG

Nouméa to Bangkok flight at 10:20 AM Bangkok to CDG flight at 12:45 PM All passengers coming from Nouméa deplane in Bangkok for aircraft cleaning, even those continuing to CDG
aroythai
GA Gange Regular ·
Well well 😉, I think it’s all very personal and depends on the travel context. I wasn’t in Bangkok myself—I arrived in BKK the night before leaving the next morning. If I *had* been in Bangkok, I would’ve stayed in the city and left early the next day to enjoy my last evening. I did that on the way there (I was heading to Laos for a wedding). I took the train from BKK after arriving from Paris to Ratchaprarop station and stayed at a hotel right next to it (40 baht for the trip—totally worth it and no traffic hassle), then left the next day to catch my flight to Luang Prabang.

Otherwise, the Aircalin flight was 400 € cheaper than AF and Thai. So it really depends on everyone’s budget too. Honestly, I didn’t even check the schedule—it was really secondary for me... as long as the flight was direct and not with some obscure airline.

But for that reason, I really think it depends on each person (budget, personality, travel context, etc.) 😛
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DO DomBegga ·
Hi Michèle,

Thanks for your contributions.

There was a bit of a mix-up: in the end, I’m leaning more toward a trip to Thailand after realizing how complex a trip to Indonesia can be (lots of flights, less developed infrastructure, etc.).

I can’t read your second private message because of a platform bug (it keeps taking me back to the first one—will check again later).

Thanks for the chat about flights. I’ll probably leave from Brussels or Amsterdam, but now I know I’ll need to plan on spending a night in BKK or leaving later than you did to get back to Europe. :-)

About domestic flights: - Did you buy them in advance or on the spot? - Did you do all your travel within Thailand by plane? - Based on what you’ve heard or experienced there, would you recommend buses, trains, or boats?

Have a great weekend!

Damien
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Hello, In Thailand, the daytime and nighttime road-based public transport network is so well-developed and often comfortable that you can easily skip domestic flights, especially with 4-5 weeks. Buses are so numerous that most of the time, booking your seats the day before* at the bus station or through your accommodation is enough. Sleeper trains are an additional option not to be overlooked, but you need to book them much earlier. You can buy your domestic flights on the spot (including at 7/Eleven convenience stores in some cases) a few days before, but it's better to save that for routes with plenty of options (e.g., Bangkok-Chiang Mai) and not for a departure during the weekend. Bangkok has two airports: the main one (Suvarnabhumi, pronounced Su-wan-na-poom, international code BKK) and the secondary one mostly used by low-cost airlines (Don Mueang, code DMK). Both are international and not close to each other.

I gathered that you're not a fan of crowds, which should encourage you not to stay *only* on the tourist highway and could result in a really interesting itinerary. If you need info/help/suggestions based on your tastes while planning, we're always here.

If you're now certain it'll be Thailand, I think you should start a new thread in the Thailand section (this one is getting a bit off-track) instead of the "traveling with kids" section.

* or even 1-2 hours before departure on many routes.
DO DomBegga ·
Hi Thierry,

Thanks again for these super helpful practical tips.

I’ll borrow some guidebooks from the local library, and once I’ve got a better idea of my itinerary, I’ll start a new thread like you suggested to talk it through.

Enjoy the time until then, and safe travels if you get the chance!

Damien
SO Songsam Veteran ·
I’m going to borrow a few guidebooks from the municipal library

That’s a really great idea—one I think too few people consider. At this stage of research/planning, it doesn’t matter if it’s not the latest edition.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
For getting around, it all depends on your itinerary.

If you want to explore all corners of Thailand, you’ll need to plan some domestic flights. North + south: one international flight in and out from Phuket or Krabi.

For travel, trains are nicer than buses. More room to move around, especially with a kid... Plus better views. Some routes need to be booked in advance.

Renting a car is an option worth considering. It’s the best way to get around comfortably. Best for less populated areas! (International driver’s permit required)

You can also book pre-reserved taxis to travel between cities. Much cheaper than in Europe, and when traveling with others, it’s often cheaper than the bus...

I also found there were noticeably fewer public transport options than before.
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GA Gange Regular ·
Hi, Oh shoot, actually my next message was about my domestic flights (I took 2). But anyway, Thierry/Attila covered everything—it was mostly thanks to the forum’s tips that I planned my trip😛. I’ll definitely add a little travel journal too; it might give some ideas. Happy planning! !
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
If you want to go to all four corners of Thailand, you’ll need to plan some domestic flights. The north + the south:

I hope he doesn’t want to go to all four corners—we don’t want him turning his trip into a marathon or a game of hopscotch...

About the need to connect the North to the South with a direct flight—if that’s what you meant—the itinerary can easily include a stop between the two to avoid flying. For example, a direct VIP bus from Chiang Mai to Kanchanaburi, visiting for 4 nights (just the city) to 8-9 nights (the whole province), then a 55-minute bus (route 81, A/C) from Kan to Ban Pong, and from there, an overnight train to the South. The result? You skip the flight, explore a beautiful province, and avoid passing through Bangkok.

For getting around, the train is nicer than the bus.

Only the Rapid or Express trains, though—because the third-class slow trains, uh, well, you’d better be *very* patient, even if they do have the advantage of not requiring reservations.

Renting a car is an option worth considering. It’s the best way to get around comfortably.

Obviously, it’s more comfortable—like in any country, you’re stating the obvious a bit... But I see two downsides that I don’t think are negligible: - As long as you’re in your car, you’re not really with the Thais, - Doing the whole circuit that way pushes you to visit too quickly.



Sangkhlaburi:

AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Example of a direct VIP bus from Chiang Mai to Kanchanaburi, visiting for 4 nights (just the city) or 8-9 nights (the whole province), then a 55-minute bus ride (line 81, A/C) from Kan to Ban Pong, and from there, an overnight train to the South. Result: you skip the flight and visit a pretty province without going through Bangkok.

Sure, but what if you’ve already done that on the way there?

On a single trip, there’s not enough time to go from Bangkok to the north one way, then from the north to the south another way, and finally return to Bangkok—always trying to take a different route. Plus, with a child, you can’t quite travel the same way you would alone.

because third-class slow trains, ugh, you’d better be very patient

True for long distances and mid-route departures.

For a departure at the start of the line and a two-hour trip, it’s like the Paris RER but with fewer people.

And come on, a Clermont-Ferrand to Paris trip often takes 10 hours, so Thai trains can only seem better to me.

as long as you’re in your car, you’re not with the Thais

You can also meet Thais no other tourist has ever seen while in your car...

It lets you go *everywhere*!

doing the whole circuit that way pushes you to visit too quickly

That depends on everyone’s mood. Transportation doesn’t define the traveler. Some people can do Europe in 15 days by train, while others in a car will only visit one French department.

In my opinion, a car has two key advantages:

- freedom - discovering landscapes at their best

I’ve taken a bus one way and a rental car back on the same route. On the bus, I saw almost nothing...
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GA Gange Regular ·
Way up north in Chiang Rai province, I had some trouble doing everything by public transport. After a while, the schedules just didn’t line up, or it simply didn’t let me go exactly where I wanted. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough, but it seemed like it was easier to take "tours" from Chiang Rai (though they often cover several sites in a single day). So I went with private transport instead—super easy to arrange through the guesthouse the night before for the next day—and I’ve got to say, the prices are low (maybe because of the season, I’m not sure...).

I could’ve rented a car from the start, but there are quite a few mountainous roads, hairpin turns, and so on...
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
gotta admit, prices are low

I paid 26 € in 2025 for a private Grab taxi from Ayutthaya to Bangkok Airport. Almost 90 kilometers.

That’s a steal!

For Hua Hin, it was around 50 €.

Door-to-door, no less.

It’s super reasonable for groups—great comfort and unbeatable travel time.
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SO Songsam Veteran ·
All the way north in Chiang Rai province, I had some trouble doing everything by public transport. After a while, the schedules just didn’t line up, or it simply didn’t let me go exactly where I wanted. Maybe I didn’t look hard enough, but it seemed easier to just take "tours" from Chiang Rai (though they often cover several sites in a single day). So I went with private transport—super easy to arrange through the guesthouse the night before for the next day—and I’ve got to say, the prices are low (maybe because of the season, I’m not sure...)

Hiring a car (or a songthaew) with a driver for a full or half day is a great option when sites are poorly served by public transport or too spread out from each other, but I always try not to overuse it. From Chiang Rai, that’s how I visited the White Temple, the Black House, and the Doi Tung Royal Villa & Garden (which you could only reach by regular songthaew on weekends) all in one day. To do this, I first went into a travel agency but turned down their offer because I thought the price was too high. As I was leaving, I ran into a really nice guy who was waiting there and offered me the same service for half the price, which I accepted.

I could’ve rented a car from the start, but there were quite a few mountainous roads, hairpin turns, etc...

Did you go to Mae Salong?
GA Gange Regular ·
Hiring a car (or a songthaew) with a driver for a full or half day is a good option when sites are poorly served by public transport or too spread out from each other

That definitely seemed like the best option in that area.

Would you have gone to Mae Salong?

Yes ;). Personally, I loved that region.
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DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Personally, I can’t go back to Thailand without renting a car—it’s *so* much better.

Plus, rentals aren’t too expensive, gas isn’t either, and the roads are decent. You get to go places you’d never reach otherwise… even to lots of islands where ferries let you take your car.
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Would you have gone to Mae Salong?

Yes :).

How long did it take?

It’s not too complicated to get from Chiang Rai to Mae Salong using public transport: take a bus toward Mae Sai, get off at Mae Chan, and from there, there are 5 songthaews a day to Mae Salong.

I posted several photos (not grouped) of the Mae Salong area in this thread: https://voyageforum.com/forum/parties-campagne-thailandaise-d10760313-1/

Mae Salong, songthaew to Mae Chan:

GA Gange Regular ·
Your photos are amazing😎!! I really wanted to go to Kanchanaburi too, but it would’ve been too rushed, so maybe next time. The issue was that I left Chiang Rai heading east, thinking I’d make a loop. I didn’t have a precise itinerary—just a few places I’d noted (the Opium Museum, Wat Phra That Doi Tung, Mae Fah Luang, Mae Salong tea plantation...)—and honestly, from Chiang Rai it was fine, but getting between those spots was a bit of a hassle. I hadn’t really planned that part well enough to do it any other way than private transport. But in the end, it was still good and easy
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
Personally, I can't go to Thailand anymore without renting a car—it's just so much better...

Plus, renting isn't too expensive, gas isn't either, and the roads are decent. You get to go places you'd never have gone otherwise... even to visit many islands, there are ferries where you can take your car.

But in the end, aren’t you considering expatriation?
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DE Dennis2 Regular ·
But you’re not considering expatriation after all?

…spending one or two months in Bangkok yeah when I stop working… but for now, renting a scooter… vroooom
FA FamilleUS Veteran ·
Just to come back to Bali—watch out for preconceptions about "overtourism" or "pollution"...

I had a few of those myself before leaving. But after 3 weeks in Bali this summer, I can confirm that the media only shows you what they want you to see (what’s more sellable than criticizing overtourism and pollution!).

I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, but if you avoid the south of the island, I mostly saw pretty empty warungs, beaches with hardly anyone around, and homestays with plenty of availability. As for plastic pollution, it’s still nowhere near Egypt...

With a 3-year-old, Bali is definitely doable.
Nos escapades : Le Maroc, l'Egypte, la Mauritanie, la Tunisie, l'Afrique du Sud, Lanzarote, les Etats-Unis (3 ans), le Canada, le Mexique, la Colombie, le Pérou, la Guadeloupe, la Martinique, l'Indonésie, la Thaïlande, Israël, Dubaï, la Jordanie, la Turquie, et Tahiti... pour l'instant !

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