Thaïlande: tenue correcte exigée
by Observateur
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Lexa ca fait un moment que je lui parle et Yama est un ami sulfureux je te l'accorde mais il me fais rire lui, Dr2 est son beni oui oui...je t'oppose de vieille cartes mais des vraies elles, Sid, thuan et barbot....alors?
Les vieux guerriers sont comme Maître Yoda, sages mais perfides 😛
Les vieux guerriers sont comme Maître Yoda, sages mais perfides 😛
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
desole tu as sorti la carte yama, le dragon blanc, des le debut, une erreur de debutant je te le concede 😉
Je ne sortais aucune carte, je me faisais la plume avec une petite badinerie qui m'a bien fait sourire. Faisons l'humour ! 😏😄
Je ne sortais aucune carte, je me faisais la plume avec une petite badinerie qui m'a bien fait sourire. Faisons l'humour ! 😏😄
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
Ok laissons la carte s'exprime ca sera beau jeu en attendant je contre la carte lexa, je t'avais envoye l'espion tu es tombe dans le piege 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Lexa ca fait un moment que je lui parle et Yama est un ami sulfureux je te l'accorde mais il me fais rire lui, Dr2 est son beni oui oui...je t'oppose de vieille cartes mais des vraies elles, Sid, thuan et barbot....alors?
Les vieux guerriers sont comme Maître Yoda, sages mais perfides 😛
Salut les copains😄!Punaise ça me fait peur le coté obscur est entrains d'envahir le forum😐😏
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/yoda/video/x2797d_yoda-le-cote-obscure_fun (pour les fans de star war😏😏)
Bon je vais aller manger des fayots moi aussi!😄
A plus Lexa😎
Les vieux guerriers sont comme Maître Yoda, sages mais perfides 😛
Salut les copains😄!Punaise ça me fait peur le coté obscur est entrains d'envahir le forum😐😏
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/yoda/video/x2797d_yoda-le-cote-obscure_fun (pour les fans de star war😏😏)
Bon je vais aller manger des fayots moi aussi!😄
A plus Lexa😎
Ok laissons la carte s'exprime ca sera beau jeu en attendant je contre la carte lexa, je t'avais envoye l'espion tu es tombe dans le piege 😛
Monsieur est bluffeur ! Mais valet de pique ne touche pas mon coeur. Ecris une petite mauvaiseté qui va reveiller les alertes sonores des ordis de ces dames pour que l'on rigole un peu 😉
Monsieur est bluffeur ! Mais valet de pique ne touche pas mon coeur. Ecris une petite mauvaiseté qui va reveiller les alertes sonores des ordis de ces dames pour que l'on rigole un peu 😉
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
ben tu as vu la tete de lexa, c'est le mauvais dans le film...je t'ai pas envoye le meilleur 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
er des fayots moi aussi!😄
A plus Lexa😎
Des fayots pour maîtriser le côté obscur, manger il faut ! le souffle du dragon, de ton cul, ainsi sortira, jeune padawan 😛🤪
A plus Lexa😎
Des fayots pour maîtriser le côté obscur, manger il faut ! le souffle du dragon, de ton cul, ainsi sortira, jeune padawan 😛🤪
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
LOL t'as pas vu la serie alors?
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
LOL t'as pas vu la serie alors?
Star Wars oui mais pas les parodies flatulantes 😕🤪😉
Star Wars oui mais pas les parodies flatulantes 😕🤪😉
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
lol je parlais de prison break ou tu seras bientot 😛
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
lol je parlais de prison break ou tu seras bientot 😛
Moi le barreau, je l'ai en permanence ! Tu l'as aussi constaté ? Mais mon anaconda, il tient pas en cage 😛
Moi le barreau, je l'ai en permanence ! Tu l'as aussi constaté ? Mais mon anaconda, il tient pas en cage 😛
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
lol 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
ça va, Boum ? ça part en sucette ce post ! BP, je n'ai pas envie de réentamer une prise de tete avec toi, mais, sans vouloir t'offenser....tu prend de la drogue ? régulièrement ? comme tu ne m'insultes pas ( virtuellement, pas folle, la guèpe ! 😎 ) tu me fais parfois marrer.Mais celà t'arrive-t-il de relire ce que tu postes ? en plus tu dis, pafois des choses justes.Tu oublirais tes problèmes"afro-caucasiens", on pourrait presque discuter comme des gens normaux.😏😎 Bon, allez, je vous laisse, mon pote Boum et toi à votre partie de cartes.Bonne continuation.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
ça va, Boum ? ça part en sucette ce post ! BP, je n'ai pas envie de réentamer une prise de tete avec toi, mais, sans vouloir t'offenser....tu prend de la drogue ? régulièrement ? comme tu ne m'insultes pas ( virtuellement, pas folle, la guèpe ! 😎 ) Bon, allez, je vous laisse, mon pote Boum et toi à votre partie de cartes.Bonne continuation.
Merci 😉 C'est la drogue qui rend parano, non ? Alors formalise toi ou pas pas pour des badineries qui n'avaient rien d'insultant, mais étaient juste de l'humour 😛
Merci 😉 C'est la drogue qui rend parano, non ? Alors formalise toi ou pas pas pour des badineries qui n'avaient rien d'insultant, mais étaient juste de l'humour 😛
On ne fait pas un voyage... C'est le voyage qui vous fait, ou vous défait !
Autre chose qui me saoul, ces gens qui trainent torse nu en ville, sous pretexte qu'il fait chaud! Je ne suis pas pudique du tout, mais ce manque de respect des thaïs (par ignorance?) m'énerve. Cet été avec mes deux petits gamins (5 et 8 ans) nous avions une blague, les voleurs de chemisettes et de tee-shirts font rage en Thaïlande, vu le nombre de gens "obligés" de se promener torse nu en ville!
En Thaïlande nous sommes invités, alors respectons nos hôtes!
DUC
Puisque que cette discussion est faite pour partir en sucette... 😉
Les élucubrations sur les valeurs judéo-chrétiennes pourraient être élargies sans difficulté aux jérémiades des trois grandes religions dites "monothéistes". A savoir, le judaïsme, le christianisme et l'islam !
Qui de leur abrutissante hégémonie pour répandre le désordre, finira un jour par épuiser définitivement la planète à force de rebattre le vieux principe de celui qui aura raison le premier ou le dernier ? 🙂😕
Les élucubrations sur les valeurs judéo-chrétiennes pourraient être élargies sans difficulté aux jérémiades des trois grandes religions dites "monothéistes". A savoir, le judaïsme, le christianisme et l'islam !
Qui de leur abrutissante hégémonie pour répandre le désordre, finira un jour par épuiser définitivement la planète à force de rebattre le vieux principe de celui qui aura raison le premier ou le dernier ? 🙂😕
Autre chose qui me saoul, ces gens qui trainent torse nu en ville, sous pretexte qu'il fait chaud! Je ne suis pas pudique du tout, mais ce manque de respect des thaïs (par ignorance?) m'énerve. Cet été avec mes deux petits gamins (5 et 8 ans) nous avions une blague, les voleurs de chemisettes et de tee-shirts font rage en Thaïlande, vu le nombre de gens "obligés" de se promener torse nu en ville!
En Thaïlande nous sommes invités, alors respectons nos hôtes!
Tu as raison, Duc, c'est pas trés malin.Mais je pense que la plupart le font surtout par ignorance.Je vis dans un coin touristique, nous y avons le meme "problème"( ça c'est DU problème ! ).Ici, la police commence à mettre des PV aux plus récalcitrants( comme la criminalité, en France est, chacun le sait, proche de zéro, c'est leur tache la plus urgente ! ). Comme sur la Cote d'Azur, les touristes ne sont pas des "invités", en Thailande.Plutot des"clients"dont on va accepter l'argent, économisé durant une année de travail.Duc, si un jour tu es "invité", chez moi, je ne te prendrais pas ton pognon, non ?Alors, meme s'ils ne sont pas parfaits, un peu d'indulgence pour nos compatriotes non-Asiatologues, venus claquer leurs économies !
Tu as raison, Duc, c'est pas trés malin.Mais je pense que la plupart le font surtout par ignorance.Je vis dans un coin touristique, nous y avons le meme "problème"( ça c'est DU problème ! ).Ici, la police commence à mettre des PV aux plus récalcitrants( comme la criminalité, en France est, chacun le sait, proche de zéro, c'est leur tache la plus urgente ! ). Comme sur la Cote d'Azur, les touristes ne sont pas des "invités", en Thailande.Plutot des"clients"dont on va accepter l'argent, économisé durant une année de travail.Duc, si un jour tu es "invité", chez moi, je ne te prendrais pas ton pognon, non ?Alors, meme s'ils ne sont pas parfaits, un peu d'indulgence pour nos compatriotes non-Asiatologues, venus claquer leurs économies !
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
Puisque que cette discussion est faite pour partir en sucette... 😉
Les élucubrations sur les valeurs judéo-chrétiennes pourraient être élargies sans difficulté aux jérémiades des trois grandes religions dites "monothéistes". A savoir, le judaïsme, le christianisme et l'islam !
Qui de leur abrutissante hégémonie pour répandre le désordre, finira un jour par épuiser définitivement la planète à force de rebattre le vieux principe de celui qui aura raison le premier ou le dernier ? 🙂😕
Je ne suis pas sur que ce soit le bon endroit, mais ce sera, forcément plus intéressant que"guest-house à Udon, pour moins de 100 bath..". Trois grandes religions trés différentes, meme si on peut leur trouver des origines communes.le Judaisme se singularise par son non-prosélithisme.Il n'a jamais chercher à s'étendre en convertissant les autres, bien au contraire.Certains diraient:"la taille du gateau étant limité, moins il ya de convives, plus les parts sont importantes", mais bon....le Christiannisme moribond, se décline en multiples versions.Chaque peuple, en fait, en a plus ou moins, créé une à son image.Et ces muliples versions ont chacune un destin différent.Le Catholisisme, depuis que son église a décidé de tourner le dos à ceux qui ont batti ses cathédrales et lui ont construit "sa puissance et sa gloire", est mourrant.Faute de gestion, pourrait-on dire.Il n'essaye meme plus d'avor raison.De repentance en auto-flagellationn, il est entré en service de soins paliatifs !L'Islam, lui, serait le seul à répondre, aujourd'hui à ta définition.Son prosélithisme et sa volonté de conquète(et pas seulement des "ames"!)est une évidence.A part, bien sur, pour ceux qui ont le pouvoir chez nous.
Les élucubrations sur les valeurs judéo-chrétiennes pourraient être élargies sans difficulté aux jérémiades des trois grandes religions dites "monothéistes". A savoir, le judaïsme, le christianisme et l'islam !
Qui de leur abrutissante hégémonie pour répandre le désordre, finira un jour par épuiser définitivement la planète à force de rebattre le vieux principe de celui qui aura raison le premier ou le dernier ? 🙂😕
Je ne suis pas sur que ce soit le bon endroit, mais ce sera, forcément plus intéressant que"guest-house à Udon, pour moins de 100 bath..". Trois grandes religions trés différentes, meme si on peut leur trouver des origines communes.le Judaisme se singularise par son non-prosélithisme.Il n'a jamais chercher à s'étendre en convertissant les autres, bien au contraire.Certains diraient:"la taille du gateau étant limité, moins il ya de convives, plus les parts sont importantes", mais bon....le Christiannisme moribond, se décline en multiples versions.Chaque peuple, en fait, en a plus ou moins, créé une à son image.Et ces muliples versions ont chacune un destin différent.Le Catholisisme, depuis que son église a décidé de tourner le dos à ceux qui ont batti ses cathédrales et lui ont construit "sa puissance et sa gloire", est mourrant.Faute de gestion, pourrait-on dire.Il n'essaye meme plus d'avor raison.De repentance en auto-flagellationn, il est entré en service de soins paliatifs !L'Islam, lui, serait le seul à répondre, aujourd'hui à ta définition.Son prosélithisme et sa volonté de conquète(et pas seulement des "ames"!)est une évidence.A part, bien sur, pour ceux qui ont le pouvoir chez nous.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
ces gens qui trainent torse nu en ville, sous pretexte qu'il fait chaud!
La nuance de deux mondes ! 😉
Entre ce que tu exprimes et l'habitude ou tradition de ces hommes d'Asie qui apprécient d'être torse nu dans le jardin de leur maison pour faire divers tâches domestiques. Voire dans les quartiers populaires quand à l'heure de l'apéritif, par exemple, ils se réussissent sur la rue devant chez l'un d'entre eux autour d'une bouteille d'alcool de riz en se lançant dans d'interminable vocalises nostalgiques d'un passé disparu... 🙂😕
La nuance de deux mondes ! 😉
Entre ce que tu exprimes et l'habitude ou tradition de ces hommes d'Asie qui apprécient d'être torse nu dans le jardin de leur maison pour faire divers tâches domestiques. Voire dans les quartiers populaires quand à l'heure de l'apéritif, par exemple, ils se réussissent sur la rue devant chez l'un d'entre eux autour d'une bouteille d'alcool de riz en se lançant dans d'interminable vocalises nostalgiques d'un passé disparu... 🙂😕
très juste, , combien de fois j'ai eut la réflexion de la part des thais, ( farang men mak ) étranger qui pue, , et farang ki nok, étranger radin,
doner une image correcte et on sera respecter, c'est aussi simple que cela,
* ki nok ne serait-ce pas plutot "merde d'oiseau"😠
* ki nok ne serait-ce pas plutot "merde d'oiseau"😠
jean paul
http://www.abm.fr/pratique/equip.html
Tenues et types de vêtements à emporterC'est de loin le critère le plus important. En effet, selon sa tenue, on passera déjà plus ou moins bien avec les populations locales de certaines régions (et pas que les plus reculées !). A l'évidence ceci est encore plus vrai pour les voyageuses qui le plus souvent auront intérêt à suivre les tendances locales ou le style passe-partout, quitte à laisser parfois de côté l'esthétique, voire le pratique.
pour vous Messieurs je viens juste faire timidement 😇 un petit rappel 😊 à l'ordre 😉... à propos du sujet initial : Quelques tenues ou vêtements pour homme pas toujours appréciés en public :
🤪 les shorts (utilisés uniquement par les enfants dans certaines sociétés), 🤪les maillots de bains hors plages (valable partout),
🏴☠️le style militaro-rambo-baroudeur (mais ça fait plutôt rire), 😇le style un peu trop baba-cool ou "marginal" (ça c'est plutôt aux frontières et avec la police), 😠un aspect trop crado (idem et de plus l'occidental est souvent perçu comme ayant les moyens), 😎le style "américain" (pas vraiment appréciés dans certains pays notamment latinos), 😄le style "tenue locale traditionnelle" (peut faire rire ou choquer), 🏴☠️😎le style "militant-revendicatif" avec badges ou T-shirt anti ou pro quelque chose (des ennuis à la clé si les gens se sentent concernés).
bonne fin de soirée à vous tous !
Tenues et types de vêtements à emporterC'est de loin le critère le plus important. En effet, selon sa tenue, on passera déjà plus ou moins bien avec les populations locales de certaines régions (et pas que les plus reculées !). A l'évidence ceci est encore plus vrai pour les voyageuses qui le plus souvent auront intérêt à suivre les tendances locales ou le style passe-partout, quitte à laisser parfois de côté l'esthétique, voire le pratique.
pour vous Messieurs je viens juste faire timidement 😇 un petit rappel 😊 à l'ordre 😉... à propos du sujet initial : Quelques tenues ou vêtements pour homme pas toujours appréciés en public :
🤪 les shorts (utilisés uniquement par les enfants dans certaines sociétés), 🤪les maillots de bains hors plages (valable partout),
🏴☠️le style militaro-rambo-baroudeur (mais ça fait plutôt rire), 😇le style un peu trop baba-cool ou "marginal" (ça c'est plutôt aux frontières et avec la police), 😠un aspect trop crado (idem et de plus l'occidental est souvent perçu comme ayant les moyens), 😎le style "américain" (pas vraiment appréciés dans certains pays notamment latinos), 😄le style "tenue locale traditionnelle" (peut faire rire ou choquer), 🏴☠️😎le style "militant-revendicatif" avec badges ou T-shirt anti ou pro quelque chose (des ennuis à la clé si les gens se sentent concernés).
bonne fin de soirée à vous tous !
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
A l'évidence ceci est encore plus vrai pour les voyageuses qui le plus souvent auront intérêt à suivre les tendances locales ou le style passe-partout, quitte à laisser parfois de côté l'esthétique, voire le pratique.
🤪 les shorts (utilisés uniquement par les enfants dans certaines sociétés), 🤪les maillots de bains hors plages (valable partout),
🏴☠️le style militaro-rambo-baroudeur (mais ça fait plutôt rire),
le style un peu trop baba-cool ou "marginal" (ça c'est plutôt aux frontières et avec la police),
un aspect trop crado (idem et de plus l'occidental est souvent perçu comme ayant les moyens),
😎le style "américain" (pas vraiment appréciés dans certains pays notamment latinos),
😄le style "tenue locale traditionnelle" (peut faire rire ou choquer),
🏴☠️😎le style "militant-revendicatif" avec badges ou T-shirt anti ou pro quelque chose (des ennuis à la clé si les gens se sentent concernés).
Me rappelle un groupe de filles et garçons dans la file d'attente au passage d'une frontière lao-thaïlandaise. Bonnes têtes d'étudiants, apriori tous de bonne famille, pour combler leur impatience au contrôle des passeports faisaient tourner deux bouteilles de vin rouge un peu comme un joint et dans le prolongement, de voir le regard des fonctionnaires de l'immigration...
Ils étaient pour certains new-yorkais, d'autres londoniens imaginant ces derniers ou des visiteurs étrangers se présenter de la sorte devant les mêmes guichets aux U.S.A et en Grande-Bretagne ? 🙂😕
🤪 les shorts (utilisés uniquement par les enfants dans certaines sociétés), 🤪les maillots de bains hors plages (valable partout),
🏴☠️le style militaro-rambo-baroudeur (mais ça fait plutôt rire),
le style un peu trop baba-cool ou "marginal" (ça c'est plutôt aux frontières et avec la police),
un aspect trop crado (idem et de plus l'occidental est souvent perçu comme ayant les moyens),
😎le style "américain" (pas vraiment appréciés dans certains pays notamment latinos),
😄le style "tenue locale traditionnelle" (peut faire rire ou choquer),
🏴☠️😎le style "militant-revendicatif" avec badges ou T-shirt anti ou pro quelque chose (des ennuis à la clé si les gens se sentent concernés).Me rappelle un groupe de filles et garçons dans la file d'attente au passage d'une frontière lao-thaïlandaise. Bonnes têtes d'étudiants, apriori tous de bonne famille, pour combler leur impatience au contrôle des passeports faisaient tourner deux bouteilles de vin rouge un peu comme un joint et dans le prolongement, de voir le regard des fonctionnaires de l'immigration...
Ils étaient pour certains new-yorkais, d'autres londoniens imaginant ces derniers ou des visiteurs étrangers se présenter de la sorte devant les mêmes guichets aux U.S.A et en Grande-Bretagne ? 🙂😕
car je suis métis
pour revenir dans le sujet, j'ai un copain metis, il se tient trés correctement en thailande, ailleurs aussi d'ailleurs
pour revenir dans le sujet, j'ai un copain metis, il se tient trés correctement en thailande, ailleurs aussi d'ailleurs
pour moi c'est tenus sobre et classique
evité tout ce qui est clinquant il est sur que le stiyl colonial ou clodo est a evité
pour ceux qui chlingues et qu'oublie la douche faut mexpliqué comment ils fonent avec une telle moiteure
le seul truc pour le quel je suis plus acidu que chez nous c'est pour le rasage le truc me gonfle la pilosité la bas n'est pas un atout donc a evité la barbe irsute
evité tout ce qui est clinquant il est sur que le stiyl colonial ou clodo est a evité
pour ceux qui chlingues et qu'oublie la douche faut mexpliqué comment ils fonent avec une telle moiteure
le seul truc pour le quel je suis plus acidu que chez nous c'est pour le rasage le truc me gonfle la pilosité la bas n'est pas un atout donc a evité la barbe irsute
vive la douceure thai et leurs piments hai hai hai
pour moi c'est tenus sobre et classique
evité tout ce qui est clinquant il est sur que le stiyl colonial ou clodo est a evité
pour ceux qui chlingues et qu'oublie la douche faut mexpliqué comment ils fonent avec une telle moiteure
le seul truc pour le quel je suis plus acidu que chez nous c'est pour le rasage le truc me gonfle la pilosité la bas n'est pas un atout donc a evité la barbe irsute
Sympa le texte ! 😎
La barbe, ce serait presqu'un autre sujet . 😉
Dans une contrée où la pilosité se fait relativement discrète chez les hommes. Une de deux, trois jours peut être un atout dans quelques circonstances ? Même le gardien de l'immeuble quand le matin, j'descends chercher de quoi pour le p'tit déj, lunette de soleil (parce que dans le gaz) et barbe naissante me fait un pouce de loin (attention, j'ai dit un pouce)... 🙂
evité tout ce qui est clinquant il est sur que le stiyl colonial ou clodo est a evité
pour ceux qui chlingues et qu'oublie la douche faut mexpliqué comment ils fonent avec une telle moiteure
le seul truc pour le quel je suis plus acidu que chez nous c'est pour le rasage le truc me gonfle la pilosité la bas n'est pas un atout donc a evité la barbe irsute
Sympa le texte ! 😎
La barbe, ce serait presqu'un autre sujet . 😉
Dans une contrée où la pilosité se fait relativement discrète chez les hommes. Une de deux, trois jours peut être un atout dans quelques circonstances ? Même le gardien de l'immeuble quand le matin, j'descends chercher de quoi pour le p'tit déj, lunette de soleil (parce que dans le gaz) et barbe naissante me fait un pouce de loin (attention, j'ai dit un pouce)... 🙂
Ce n'est pas le fait que la pilosité n'est pas un atout, c'est juste que génétiquement ils n'ont pas de barbe !! Je ne vois pas pourquoi on devrait se raser, on ne va pas renier nos gênes quand même !!
Je porte la barbe en Thailande et ça ne gêne personne, à vrai dire tout le monde s'en fout. Au contraire, mes amis Thai préfèrent quand j'ai la barbe, c'est dire....
Ah oui, et il suffit de se balader dans la rue pour voir que beaucoup de femmes Thai ne s'épilent pas du tout, et encore une fois ca ne gene personne.
Je porte la barbe en Thailande et ça ne gêne personne, à vrai dire tout le monde s'en fout. Au contraire, mes amis Thai préfèrent quand j'ai la barbe, c'est dire....
Ah oui, et il suffit de se balader dans la rue pour voir que beaucoup de femmes Thai ne s'épilent pas du tout, et encore une fois ca ne gene personne.
tu escamotes ce qui t'arrange et met à la place ce qui te met à ton avantage 😉 pas terrible 😕😕 l'ethique où est-elle 😇
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
tu escamotes ce qui t'arrange et met à la place ce qui te met à ton avantage 😉 pas terrible 😕😕 l'ethique où est-elle 
Escamoter quoi ? Explique toi... 🙂😕

Escamoter quoi ? Explique toi... 🙂😕
je te cite !!! alors que l'on parle des hommes qui portent la barbe tu dis "dans la rue (on peut) voir que beaucoup de femmes ne s'épilent pas" ?????
est-ce un canular ? un dérapage verbal ? ton inconscient qui parle à ton insu, naturellement !!!!
affaire à suivre !!! 😉😉
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
pour vous Messieurs
je viens juste faire timidement
un petit rappel
à l'ordre 😉... à propos du sujet initial :
la liste était pour Vous l!
je viens juste faire timidement
un petit rappel
à l'ordre 😉... à propos du sujet initial :la liste était pour Vous l!
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Désolé je te suis pas....pas du tout compris ce que tu as voulu dire...
Désolé je te suis pas....pas du tout compris ce que tu as voulu dire...
Vraiment ? 😕
Vraiment ? 😕
Ba ouais, je vois pas du tout ce qui colle pas. Tu peux m'éclairer, parce qu'apparemment j'ai écris un truc bizarre, sauf que je ne vois pas du tout quoi....
Salut Youpi88, ce n'est pas plutôt en fréquentant certains gogo bars que tu as constaté que les femmes thaïes ne s'épilent pas...😛
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Ba ouais, je vois pas du tout ce qui colle pas. Tu peux m'éclairer, parce qu'apparemment j'ai écris un truc bizarre, sauf que je ne vois pas du tout quoi....
Non, c'est à toi d'allumer la lumière dans la lanterne ! 🙂😎😕
Non, c'est à toi d'allumer la lumière dans la lanterne ! 🙂😎😕
Eux désolé mais sauf preuve du contraire l'épilation concerne toutes les parties du corps, et je faisais plutot allusion aux jambes.....mais apparemment certains ne voient pas plus loin que les gogos bars.....d'ailleurs le forum en devient vraiment lassant, les discussions partant toujours en vrille et finissant toujours sur le meme sujet...🤪🤪
Mais je maintiens ce que je disais, je vois toujours pas pourquoi la barbe des Farangs ou n'importe quelle partie du corps poilue generait les Thais car beaucoup de femmes Thai ne s'épilent pas du tout (les jambes s'il faut vraiment le justifier) et ça ne gêne personne.
Mais je maintiens ce que je disais, je vois toujours pas pourquoi la barbe des Farangs ou n'importe quelle partie du corps poilue generait les Thais car beaucoup de femmes Thai ne s'épilent pas du tout (les jambes s'il faut vraiment le justifier) et ça ne gêne personne.
Désolé, je te voyais plus réceptif à l'humour...
Ceci dit je suis parfaitement d'accord avec ce que tu as dit et ma remarque n'avait pour seul but que de faire rire. A priori c'est raté...
Je suis qqun de relativement poilu et si certaines de mes ex européennes n'appréciaient guère, toutes mes amies thaïes adorent!
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Ton message m'a fait rire aussi, en fait je m'adressais plutot à "Observateur" et Eliade, qui n'ont pas l'air d'envisager que certains messages ne parlent pas que de gogos bars.
Désolé. 😉
Désolé. 😉
Dans ce cas "no ploblem"! Et vive les poilus! Sur ce je vous salue cher Youpi, et je pars me sustenter.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Meme chose pour moi !! 😎
Slut
Slut
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Tenues et types de vêtements à emporterC'est de loin le critère le plus important. En effet, selon sa tenue, on passera déjà plus ou moins bien avec les populations locales de certaines régions (et pas que les plus reculées !). A l'évidence ceci est encore plus vrai pour les voyageuses qui le plus souvent auront intérêt à suivre les tendances locales ou le style passe-partout, quitte à laisser parfois de côté l'esthétique, voire le pratique.
pour vous Messieurs je viens juste faire timidement
un petit rappel
à l'ordre 😉... à propos du sujet initial :
Quelques tenues ou vêtements pour homme pas toujours appréciés en public :
🤪 les shorts (utilisés uniquement par les enfants dans certaines sociétés), 🤪les maillots de bains hors plages (valable partout),
🏴☠️le style militaro-rambo-baroudeur (mais ça fait plutôt rire),
le style un peu trop baba-cool ou "marginal" (ça c'est plutôt aux frontières et avec la police),
un aspect trop crado (idem et de plus l'occidental est souvent perçu comme ayant les moyens),
😎le style "américain" (pas vraiment appréciés dans certains pays notamment latinos),
😄le style "tenue locale traditionnelle" (peut faire rire ou choquer),
🏴☠️😎le style "militant-revendicatif" avec badges ou T-shirt anti ou pro quelque chose (des ennuis à la clé si les gens se sentent concernés).
bonne fin de soirée à vous tous !
franchement eliade, zero sur ces gros clichés ... j'ose dire que c'est bien un truc un truc de nana de se moquer des tenues, mais je n'irais pas jusque la . En france, tu peux aussi parler des casquettes Rn'B, des tenues D&G ridicules, et des grosses lunettes de mouches pour filles qui veulent ressembler a des poupées ...
Quand aux shorts, et bien nombre de Thailandaises qui en portent, tu serais etonnés . J'espere croiser d'autres routards qui voient d'autres valeurs que les tenues vestimentaires
Tenues et types de vêtements à emporterC'est de loin le critère le plus important. En effet, selon sa tenue, on passera déjà plus ou moins bien avec les populations locales de certaines régions (et pas que les plus reculées !). A l'évidence ceci est encore plus vrai pour les voyageuses qui le plus souvent auront intérêt à suivre les tendances locales ou le style passe-partout, quitte à laisser parfois de côté l'esthétique, voire le pratique.
pour vous Messieurs je viens juste faire timidement
un petit rappel
à l'ordre 😉... à propos du sujet initial :
Quelques tenues ou vêtements pour homme pas toujours appréciés en public :🤪 les shorts (utilisés uniquement par les enfants dans certaines sociétés), 🤪les maillots de bains hors plages (valable partout),
🏴☠️le style militaro-rambo-baroudeur (mais ça fait plutôt rire),
le style un peu trop baba-cool ou "marginal" (ça c'est plutôt aux frontières et avec la police),
un aspect trop crado (idem et de plus l'occidental est souvent perçu comme ayant les moyens),
😎le style "américain" (pas vraiment appréciés dans certains pays notamment latinos),
😄le style "tenue locale traditionnelle" (peut faire rire ou choquer),
🏴☠️😎le style "militant-revendicatif" avec badges ou T-shirt anti ou pro quelque chose (des ennuis à la clé si les gens se sentent concernés).bonne fin de soirée à vous tous !
franchement eliade, zero sur ces gros clichés ... j'ose dire que c'est bien un truc un truc de nana de se moquer des tenues, mais je n'irais pas jusque la . En france, tu peux aussi parler des casquettes Rn'B, des tenues D&G ridicules, et des grosses lunettes de mouches pour filles qui veulent ressembler a des poupées ...
Quand aux shorts, et bien nombre de Thailandaises qui en portent, tu serais etonnés . J'espere croiser d'autres routards qui voient d'autres valeurs que les tenues vestimentaires
😉moi aussi j'suis poilu😄😏😏😏
je pense qu'ils portent plus d'attention aux comportement des "farengs" qu'a leur façon de s'habiller et franchement ils ont raison😛
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
va falloir se méfier, les Thaïs vont nous trouver "razoir" si ca continue !😏😏😏
m'enfin tant qu'on coupe pas les cheveux en 4!!😉
"Le voyage commence là où s'arrêtent nos certitudes..."
Mingalaba, Sawasdee, Xin chào, Tjomreab Souor, Selamat datang, Sabaidee
va falloir se méfier, les Thaïs vont nous trouver "razoir" si ca continue !😏😏😏
m'enfin tant qu'on coupe pas les cheveux en 4!!😉
As-tu remarqué au moins le retour de mon avatar pour te faire plaisir ! Quant à la question rasoir, il semble que tu en connais la réponse ? En souhaitant que tu puisses en faire profiter tout le monde... 🙂😕
As-tu remarqué au moins le retour de mon avatar pour te faire plaisir ! Quant à la question rasoir, il semble que tu en connais la réponse ? En souhaitant que tu puisses en faire profiter tout le monde... 🙂😕
bon ! je réponds ! tu parles de barbe, ok ! donc tu parles des hommes et de leur système pileux ... donc on pense aux occidentaux car les asiatiques ont du mal à avoir une évraie" barbe et cela les barbe pas mal 😉😉 car il aimerait en avoir car c'est un signe de virilité !!! bon ! jusqu'ici tu suis ? oui ?
dans la foulée, ss aucune transition, tu dis que les femmes thaïs ne s'épilent pas !!! comme elle mêmes comme leurs consorts, n'ont pas une aptitude à avoir de la barbe ou de la moustache, et ni sur les jambes, à mon avis (par exemple qd on est blonde on a pas de poils sur les jambes ou alors quasi invisible) donc on se dit Youpi, de quoi parle-t-il ???
attention à l'argumentation !!!! ça se construit !!!! 😉😉😉 réflexion amicale de voisinage
dans la foulée, ss aucune transition, tu dis que les femmes thaïs ne s'épilent pas !!! comme elle mêmes comme leurs consorts, n'ont pas une aptitude à avoir de la barbe ou de la moustache, et ni sur les jambes, à mon avis (par exemple qd on est blonde on a pas de poils sur les jambes ou alors quasi invisible) donc on se dit Youpi, de quoi parle-t-il ???
attention à l'argumentation !!!! ça se construit !!!! 😉😉😉 réflexion amicale de voisinage
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Sozal, as-tu bien lu, dans l'ordre chronologique la discussion ? je n'en ai pas l'impression compte tenu de ce que tu m'écris 😕😉 c'est pas moi qui fait cet inventaire mais c'est ABM que j'ai nommé et donc j'ai donné le lien
et c'était une réponses aux garçons qui parlaient de ceux qui sont crades etc ... puis ensuite la discussion est partie ds tous les sens et donc par amusement, j'ai rappelé le sujet en faisant cet emprunt 😉 et si je parle de la Thaïlande c'est que je l'a connais !!! donc ya pas "si tu savais" !!!
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
"As-tu remarqué au moins le retour de mon avatar pour te faire plaisir !"C'est vrai, j'apprécie ce retour à une certaine normalité ! 😉 "Quant à la question rasoir, il semble que tu en connais la réponse ? "Ouais, c'est pas mal comme "Private Jock", j'apprécie tout autant. Bien fait pour moi 😮😊🏴☠️😄
Bon Observateur ma foi 😎
"Le voyage commence là où s'arrêtent nos certitudes..."
Mingalaba, Sawasdee, Xin chào, Tjomreab Souor, Selamat datang, Sabaidee
alors que je répondais à des posts malvenus, à mon encontre, il s'est produit une coupe policière 😉😉 hier j'ai eu le loisir de revoir le film sur Gandhi, un enseignement toujours d'actualité : à la perfidie répondre par la "non-violence" (copie en cas de nouvelle disparition)
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Bon bon, je comprends mieux maintenant...😉
Mais pour les poils sur les jambes, certe elles n'en ont pas beaucoup, mais quand on ne s'est jamais épilé de sa vie, et bien ca pousse quand meme, et il est aprfois surprenant de voir une femme Thai avec des poils aussi longs que ceux d'un homme sur les jambes...on ne verrait jamais ça en Europe.
Bon, on va vlore le débat car je crois qu'on s'est compris au bout du compte. 😎
Mais pour les poils sur les jambes, certe elles n'en ont pas beaucoup, mais quand on ne s'est jamais épilé de sa vie, et bien ca pousse quand meme, et il est aprfois surprenant de voir une femme Thai avec des poils aussi longs que ceux d'un homme sur les jambes...on ne verrait jamais ça en Europe.
Bon, on va vlore le débat car je crois qu'on s'est compris au bout du compte. 😎
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Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
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3 nights on Koh Phangan
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4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi there,
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Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
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For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
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For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
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Time to hit the road again!
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
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Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
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- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.





