Dites donc, si j'enlève une journée à SF, pensez-vous que la rajouter à Page, ou Zion est une bonne idée ? J'imaginais trouver un lieu cool avec piscine ou lac en l'occurrence pour faire un petit break, j'adore frisco, le climat moins.
Ou alors rajouter un vol intérieur pour essayer d'intégrer Moab ?
Savez-vous s'il y a un avantage commercial à prendre toutes les nuits là où c'est possible par la même chaine : je pense aux motel6, bestwestern etc...
Genre tant de nuits réservées une gratuite ?
Bonjour Lukin,
Dans tous voyages, tel le votre, l'un des plaisirs sera de faire la route et vous arreter a des endroits inatendus.
Pour SF, toujours a votre disposition pour vos visites.
Amities
Alex
http://durandale2.blogspot.com/
How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
Savez-vous s'il y a un avantage commercial à prendre toutes les nuits là où c'est possible par la même chaine : je pense aux motel6, bestwestern etc...
Genre tant de nuits réservées une gratuite ?
oui, à condition de prendre la carte de l'hôtel qui te fait avoir des points à chaque nuit réservée et de réserver directement sur le site de l'hôtel.
Perso j'ai les cartes Wyndham (Days Inn, Super 8 etc ..), Choices (Comfort Inn, Quality Inn etc ..) et Best Western et l'été prochain j'ai 3 nuits gratuites dans mon séjour (une dans chaque chaîne)
"Lorsque je parlais de Las Vegas au lieu de Williams, c'était pour "couper" la poire en 2, effectuer 435 km au lieu des 694 km jusqu'à Williams et ensuite je ferais Las Vegas Grand Canyon, au final il n'y a qu'une différence de 100 km."
Non, je ce n’est pas vraiment une bonne idée.
Non seulement vs allongez les km, sur une route qui plus est, n’est pas intéressante; mais en plus vs allez encore perdre du temps ds les bouchons du Strip de Las Vegas (fréquents en fin de journée et en soirée), et en faisant le check in ds un de ses immenses hôtels (ça peut parfois prendre plus d’1 h).
En plus Williams et son petit côté "old west" vaut une petite halte. On y mange aussi pas mal.
"Aucun intérêt de faire le voyage dans l'autre sens ? "
Non , au contraire, le sens que vs avez choisi est l’idéal, pour multiples raisons :
- La raison évoquée par Pong est très pertinente
- Cela vs permettra aussi de découvrir le Grand Canyon en 1er lieu (qd on le découvre en fin de circuit, on risque d’être déçu par son côté trop grandiose où on n’a pas l’impression de rentrer ds le décor comme c’est le cas pour ts les autres parcs nationaux)
- Placer Valley of Fire entre Bryce et Las Vegas vs permettra de le visiter aux heures les meilleures que sont celles de fin de journée (moins chaud et meilleure luminosité). Qd on tourne ds l’autre sens, on est alors obligé de quitter Las Vegas très tôt pour arriver à Valley of Fire aux 1ères heures de la journée, ce qui n’est jamais évident qd on a bourlingué sur le Strip la veille pour profiter de ses lumières et spectacles
- Et l’arrivée à Las Vegas par le Nord, de nuit, est saisissante, qd on voit d’un coup surgir du désert la gigantesque mare de lumières, alors qu’on se trouve encore à plus de 20 miles
"Savez-vous s'il y a un avantage commercial à prendre toutes les nuits là où c'est possible par la même chaine : je pense aux motel6, bestwestern etc...
Genre tant de nuits réservées une gratuite ?"
Pour bénéficier des cartes de fidélité évoquées par Itat, tu dois faire tes réservations directement aux hotels, sans passer par un intermédiaire du genre booking.com ou hotels.com
Remarque : hotels.com fidélise aussi ses clients en leur offrant 1 nuit gratuite à l’achat de 10 http://fr.hotels.com/.../welcomerewards.html
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Merci pour ces bons plans et ces explications éclairantes !
Dites-moi ce que vous en pensez SVP ? par rapport au dernier ?
01/08 – Arrivée à Los Angeles
02/08 – Los Angeles
03/08 – Los Angeles
04/08 – Los Angeles > Route 66 > Williams
05/08 – Williams > Grand Canyon (nuit à Grand Canyon Village ou Tusayan)
06/08 – Grand Canyon (partir tôt le matin) > Page : Antelope Canyon en fin de matinée + Horseshoe Bend + points de vue sur Lake Powell
07/08 – Page (partir tôt le matin) > Valley of the Gods et Goosenecks > Monument Valley > Bluff
08/08 – Bluff > Moab : Canyonlands (Island in the Sky) et Dead Horse Point SP
09/08 – Moab : Arches NP
10/08 – Moab > Goblin Valley > Capitol Reef (nuit à Torrey)
11/08 – Capitol Reef > Bryce Canyon
12/08 – Bryce Canyon > Zion : Canyon Overlook Trail uniquement > Valley of Fire > Las Vegas
13/08 – Las Vegas
14/08 – Las Vegas > Death Valley > Ridgecrest
15/08 – Ridgecrest > Sequoia NP
16/08 – Sequoia NP
17/08 – Sequoia NP > San Francisco
18/08 – San Francisco
19/08 – San Francisco
20/08 – San Francisco > Los Angeles
21/08 – Vol retour à 18h00
"07/08 – Page (partir tôt le matin) > Valley of the Gods et Goosenecks > Monument Valley > Bluff
08/08 – Bluff > Moab : Canyonlands (Island in the Sky) et Dead Horse Point SP
09/08 – Moab : Arches NP"
Tu vas louper le sunset à Monument Valley😕, ou tu vas faire la rte de nuit > Bluff😕
Bluff-Moab = 2 h de rte... et le temps de faire encore la rte > Island in the Sky, il sera presque midi qd tu commenceras tes visites, soit au plus mauvais moment de la journée😕
Et puis tu oublies qu'il faut aussi du temps pour faire les check in, plein d'essence, qq courses, etc
"11/08 – Capitol Reef > Bryce Canyon
12/08 – Bryce Canyon > Zion : Canyon Overlook Trail uniquement > Valley of Fire > Las Vegas"
Que de km... et quelle course😕 sur une des plus belles parties de l'ouest américain où il y a tant à voir (voir le message 34 où je te suggérais d'aller lire http://voyageforum.com/...post=6912960#6912960)
"14/08 – Las Vegas > Death Valley > Ridgecrest "
Ce qui signifie:
- quitter tôt Las Vegas🤪 (donc moins de temps ds cette ville)
- pas bcp de temps pour visiter Death Valley😕: pas de sunset, ni de sunrise ds Death Valley; pour ton fils pas de baignade sous les étoiles ds l'immense et chaude piscine de Furnace Creek😕
- pas de Alabama Hills😕 par manque de temps
Seul point positif: le trajet http://goo.gl/maps/pyVHI (avec la traversée de la Panamint Valley et le point de vue situé sur le versant Est des collines) fait en fin de journée se ferait au moment idéal (avec le soleil ds le dos)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Ok tu m'as convaincu, je laisse tomber Moab, je reviens donc à l'itinéraire initial. Si ma famille accroche je pourrais toujours suggérer d'y retourner pour se faire Moab et Yellowstone.
Merci d'avoir pris le temps de relire mes salmigondis.
Re Bonjour tout le monde, suite à vos avis divers et variés, j'ai simulé notre périple et j'arrive à ceci, à mon avis, j'ai dû me tromper car je me retrouve avec des jours en rab, du coup que me conseillez-vous ? De rajouter du temps sur des parcours ? j'ai oublié de compter des trucs c'est pas possible ?
J1 (Samedi, 01 Août 2015)
Matin : .
Midi : .
APM : Los Angeles. arrivée 17h15
Soir : Los Angeles.
J2 (Dimanche, 02 Août 2015)
Journée : Los Angeles. visite visite visite visite
J3 (Lundi, 03 Août 2015)
Matin : Los Angeles > Mojave NP (200 miles en 3h).
Midi : Mojave NP > Kingman (130 miles en 2.5h).
APM : Kingman > Grand Canyon NP (South Rim) (200 miles en 3h).
Soir : .
J4 (Mardi, 04 Août 2015)
Matin : Grand Canyon NP (South Rim).
Midi : Grand Canyon NP (South Rim).
APM : Grand Canyon NP (North Rim) > Page (150 miles en 3h).
Soir : Page et sa région.
J5 (Mercredi, 05 Août 2015)
Matin : Page et sa région.
Midi : Page et sa région.
APM : Page > Monument Valley (125 miles en 2h).
Soir : Monument Valley.
J6 (Jeudi, 06 Août 2015)
Matin : Monument Valley.
Midi : Monument Valley.
APM : Capitol Reef NP > Monument Valley (183 miles en 3.5h).
Soir : Capitol Reef NP.
J7 (Vendredi, 07 Août 2015)
Matin : Capitol Reef NP.
Midi : Bryce Canyon > Capitol Reef NP (122 miles en 3h).
APM : Bryce Canyon NP.
Soir : Bryce Canyon NP.
J8 (Samedi, 08 Août 2015)
Matin : Bryce Canyon NP.
Midi : Zion NP > Bryce Canyon NP (80 miles en 2h).
APM : Zion NP.
Soir : Zion NP.
J9 (Dimanche, 09 Août 2015)
Matin : Zion NP.
Midi : Zion NP > Valley of Fire SP (134 miles en 2.5h).
APM : Valley of Fire SP.
Soir : Las Vegas > Valley of Fire SP (53 miles en 1h).
J10 (Lundi, 10 Août 2015)
Journée : Las Vegas.
J11 (Mardi, 11 Août 2015)
Matin : Las Vegas.
Midi : Las Vegas > Death Valley NP (140 miles en 2.5h).
APM : Death Valley NP.
Soir : Death Valley NP.
J12 (Mercredi, 12 Août 2015)
Matin : Death Valley NP.
Midi : Bakersfield > Death Valley NP (230 miles en 4h).
APM : Bakersfield > Sequoia NP & Kings Canyon NP (150 miles en 3h).
Soir : Sequoia NP & Kings Canyon NP.
J13 (Jeudi, 13 Août 2015)
Matin : Sequoia NP & Kings Canyon NP.
Midi : Sequoia NP & Kings Canyon NP.
APM : Sequoia NP & Kings Canyon NP > Yosemite NP (160 miles en 3h).
Soir : Yosemite NP > San Francisco (200 miles en 4h).
J14 (Vendredi, 14 Août 2015)
Journée : San Francisco.
J15 (Samedi, 15 Août 2015)
Matin : San Francisco.
Midi : San Francisco.
APM : San Francisco > Monterey (120 miles en 2h).
Soir : Monterey.
J16 (Dimanche, 16 Août 2015)
Matin : Monterey > San Luis Obispo (135 miles en 3h).
Midi : San Luis Obispo > Los Angeles (200 miles en 3h).
APM : Los Angeles.
Soir : Los Angeles.
J17 (Lundi, 17 Août 2015)
Journée : .
J18 (Mardi, 18 Août 2015)
Journée : .
J19 (Mercredi, 19 Août 2015)
Journée : .
J20 (Jeudi, 20 Août 2015)
Journée : Los Angeles.
J21 (Vendredi, 21 Août 2015)
Matin : Los Angeles.
Midi : Los Angeles.
APM : .
Soir : .
Distance totale : 2637 miles (soit 4243 kilomètres).
J3 : LA - Gd Canyon
En J3, tu n’auras pas le temps de visiter le Gd Canyon (tu y feras seulement le sunset si tu as quitté LA très tôt et que tu n’as pas trainé sur les arrêts de la rte 66)
Donc, le lendemain, il faut rajouter 1 journée entière au Gd Canyon avec une 2ème nuit
J13 : Sequoia NP – Yosemite (Oakhurst)
Et le lendemain : rajouter 1 jour pour visiter Yosemite en matinée (Glacier Point + Vallée)+ rte > San Francisco (arrivée en fin de journée)
J14 : SF
Et le lendemain , il faut rajouter un 2ème jour à SF
Remarque:
Tu peux aussi rajouter une 2ème nuit à Torrey (comme déjà suggéré ds le post que je t'ai renseigné http://voyageforum.com/...ost=6912960;#6912960 mais que visiblement tu n'as pas encore lu😛)
Ou 1 nuit à Escalante si tu veux faire une incursion sur la HITRR (voir http://ouestusa.fr/GESNM.html)
EDIT: il serait grand temps de commencer tes réservations d'hôtels... sinon, tu vas être confronté aux hôtels complets ds certains parcs, et te retrouver à dormir + loin😕
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Moi ce que j'aurais bien fait c'est rajouter une nuit vers les jours 5 par exemple à Page et/ou les jours 6-7-8 (région de Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef)
pour J3 et J4 en tout ça me fait une soirée et une bonne grosse matinée/après-midi au GC C'est suffisant non ? (je ne prévois rien de spécial hormis les points de vue)
Pour J13 et J14 je me suis planté à fond je fais Sequoia/San Francisco direct donc ça me fait (presque) 2 jours à San Francisco
LA 2ème nuit à Torrey ou Escalante à l'air chouette, mais où dois-je la mettre dans mon itinéraire ?
Ca te semble cool comme ça ?
Pour les résevations, j'en suis conscient, mais tant que mon itinéraire n'est pas ok, ça m'angoisse
"Pour les résevations, j'en suis conscient, mais tant que mon itinéraire n'est pas ok, ça m'angoisse"
Alors activons😉 car on tourne un peu en rond🤪
Alors, on repart avec ton 2ème itinéraire proposé ds ton post http://voyageforum.com/...post=6913762#6913762
Avec qq changements /améliorations:
- J’ai replacé la 2ème journée à LA en début de circuit (et non en fin) pour grouper les nuits ds le même quartier et ainsi éviter d’inutiles km en A-R (et les bouchons !) ds cette ville gigantesque.
(En fin de circuit, vs arriverez à LA en longeant la côte, et l’aéroport est aussi situé sur la côte . Donc autant rester dormir sur la côte plutôt que de retraverser la ville pour aller dormir à Hollywood)
- J’ai rajouté une 2ème nuit à Bryce puisque vs n’y arriverez la veille qu’en fin de journée
- J’ai raccourci le temps à passer à Sequoia NP
- Pour le 09/08, il faudra choisir entre les 2 possibilités, selon vos préférences
01/08 – Arrivée à Los Angeles (nuit ds quartier Hollywood)
02/08 – Los Angeles (centre-ville ? /maisons victoriennes sur Carroll Ave/Beverly Hills, Farmers Market, The Grove/Hollywood Sign/sunset à Griffith Park), 2ème nuit ds quartier Hollywood
03/08 – Los Angeles (Universal Studios/quartier Hollywood/sunset sur Mulholland drive/Runyon Canyon)
04/08 – Los Angeles > Route 66 > nuit à Williams ou nuit à Gd Canyon Village ou Tusayan
05/08 – Williams > Grand Canyon (points de vue côté ouest + sunset )(nuit à Gd Canyon Village ou Tusayan)
06/08 – Grand Canyon (hélico ?/ points de vue côté Est sur Desert View) – Little Colorado – Page/ Lac Powell
07/08 – Page : Antelope Canyon + Horseshoe Bend – Rte > Monument Valley (y arriver 2h30 avant le sunset)
08/08 – Monument Valley – Torrey (en passant par la route 261, puis 95 puis 24)
= journée très chargée (il faudrait quitter Monument Valley vers 8-8h30 au plus tard) avec de nombreuses possibilités de visites à choisir parmi :
Muley Point - Goosenecks - Valley of the Gods - Natural Bridges NM -slot canyon Little Wild Horse /Goblin Valley.
Et prévoir le sunset à Capitol Reef à Panorama Point /Gooseneck Overlook/Sunset Point
09/08 – Torrey – Burr trail en A-R – Scenic Bwy 12 – slot canyon Willis Creek – sunset à Kodachrom Basin - Bryce Canyon (arrivée fin de journée) , nuit dans le parc ou à Tropic
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09/08 – Torrey /Capitol Reef (scenic drive/ Sulphur Creek ) – Burr trail en A-R – Scenic Bwy 12 – Bryce Canyon (arrivée fin de journée) , nuit dans le parc ou à Tropic
10/08 – Bryce Canyon , 2ème nuit à Bryce Canyon
11/08 – Bryce Canyon > Zion (nuit dans le parc ou à Springdale)
12/08 – Zion (balade le matin) – Rte > Valley of Fire en fin de journée > Las Vegas
13/08 – Las Vegas
14/08 – Las Vegas (> 13h00) – Rte > Death Valley (visite de 16h> sunset) (nuit à Stovepipe Wells ou à Furnace Creek)
15/08 – matinée à Death Valley – Rte > Lone Pine (visite des Alabama Hills) – Rte > Sequoia NP (nuit dans le parc ou à Three Rivers)
16/08 – Sequoia NP (visite > 15-16h00) – Rte > SF (arrivée fin de journée)
17/08 – San Francisco
18/08 – San Francisco
19/08 – San Francisco > Monterey et Carmel > Cambria ou San Simeon
20/08 – Cambria ou San Simeon > Santa Barbara et Malibu , visite de Paramount Ranch ? (nuit à Santa Barbara ou près de Santa Monica)
21/08 – visite de Paramount Ranch ?, puis Santa Monica + Venice Beach , puis Rte > aéroport (vol retour à 18h00)
Je pense qu'on a fait le tour des possibilités😉
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Ben oui ça tourne en rond c'est un circuit ! Génial ces infos ! Bien vu pour LA, Bryce cool et pour San frisco c'est chouette d'avoir le temps. J'ai donc commencé à effectuer des réservations, la vache pour monument valley y a déjà plus rien de disponible, pareil pour le GC ! Par contre pour las Vegas le prix des chambres est ridicule, je vais sûrement craquer pour le flamingo ! Pour la death youhouhou je suis au furnace, zion c'est bon, bryce aussi, torrey ok, le reste frisco, LA et San Luis obispo, j'ai encore le temps, si je trouve rien au GC et Monument Valley, je les zappe et je ferais autre chose.
En tout cas pour l'instant, merci beaucoup pour les infos et bons plans, a très bientôt !
Bonjour
Pour le GC, regardez à TUSAYAN, ou le YAVAPAI LODGE qui ne fait plus partie du groupe XANTERRA et n'est pas indiqué dans les lodges officiels du parc.
Pour MV, regardez les 4 motels de MEXICAN HAT;
Bien entendu, regardez toujours sur les sites des hotels, et pas sur les sites des intermediaires.
Tu as absolument raison, j'ai fait une jolie salade !
"Before you judge me take a look at yourself"
Children of Bodom
"On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur, l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux" (St Exupéry)
http://palomino34.blogspot.fr/ (blog encore au tout début...)
Oui j ai de l intéret pour votre fichier. Moi je veux me rendre avec mon conjoint le 25 sept environ et ce pour deux semaines en californie. Nous voulons aller à Hollywood à los Angeles, santa monica et san diego mais rien n 'est encore finalisé. Et nous aimerions reprendre l'avion pour le retout au québec à las vegas. Alors votre fichier m'intéresse. Merci. Edith Racine
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I wanted to share our experience after a 5-day trip to Armenia with my wife and our 8-month-old baby.
It’s a destination that’s still relatively unknown, but it’s really worth the trip, especially if you enjoy cultural, spiritual, historical, and human-centered travel.
We were looking for a change of scenery but not too complicated with a baby—and easy to organize (even though our travel agency helped us a lot, thanks to them! 😊). In the end, Armenia was a wonderful surprise. It’s not a "postcard-perfect" destination. It’s a raw, mountainous, ancient country with real depth.
And most importantly: Armenians *love* children.
That’s probably what surprised us the most. In restaurants, waitresses, owners, or even other customers would naturally come over to play with our baby, hold them for a few minutes, smile at them, or keep them entertained while we ate.
It wasn’t intrusive. It was very natural, very family-oriented. You can tell that children have a real place in society. For parents traveling with a baby, it’s honestly a pleasure.
Day 1 — Yerevan
We started with Yerevan, a pleasant capital that’s quite easy to explore with a child.
The city isn’t huge. You can stroll around Republic Square, visit cafés, discover markets, and walk at a relaxed pace.
With a baby, it’s pretty practical: you can easily take breaks, return to the hotel, or go back out in the evening. The vibe is laid-back, family-friendly, and we felt safe.
In the evening, Yerevan is very lively. The restaurants are welcoming, and almost everywhere, our baby drew smiles.
Day 2 — Etchmiadzin and Khor Virap
On the second day, we headed to Etchmiadzin, the spiritual heart of Armenia. It’s an important place for understanding the country and its Christian identity.
Then, we visited Khor Virap, facing Mount Ararat.
It’s probably one of the most striking places on the trip. The monastery, the plain, the distant Ararat—everything is visually and symbolically powerful.
With a baby, you just need to plan a relaxed pace, avoid rushing, and take your time.
Day 3 — Garni and Geghard
The third day was one of our favorites.
We visited the Temple of Garni, very different from the monasteries, with a stunning setting in the mountains.
Then we went to Geghard, a monastery partially carved into the rock.
The atmosphere is incredible. It’s quiet, mineral, almost timeless. Even if you’re not very religious, you feel something.
With a child, the visit goes well, but again, it’s best not to overload the day. The key is to keep a flexible pace.
Day 4 — Noravank
On the fourth day, we headed to Noravank.
The road itself is an experience: dry landscapes, mountains, red rocks, valleys. The monastery is surrounded by impressive cliffs.
It’s one of the most beautiful sites we saw in Armenia.
You really get the sense that Armenian monasteries were built in impossible places—between sky, stone, and mountain.
Along the way, you can also pass through the Areni region, known for its wine. With a baby, we mostly prioritized simple breaks, relaxed meals, and uncompressed travel times.
Day 5 — Lake Sevan and return to Yerevan
For the last day, we went to Lake Sevan.
The lake is vast, bright, and surrounded by mountains. The Sevanavank Monastery, up high, offers a beautiful view.
It’s a gentler stop, perfect for ending the trip.
Then we returned to Yerevan for a final dinner. Once again, the welcome in restaurants stood out. In Armenia, traveling with a baby isn’t seen as a hassle. On the contrary, people spontaneously come up to the child.
Our overall impression
In 5 days, you obviously don’t see all of Armenia. To reach Tatev, Dilijan, Haghpat, or Sanahin, you’d need more like 7 to 10 days.
But for a first visit, 5 days are enough to feel the essence: Yerevan, the major monasteries, Mount Ararat, the landscapes, the Christian history, and the Armenian hospitality.
What we loved most:
- the kindness of people toward our baby;
- the very family-friendly atmosphere;
- the monasteries in incredible landscapes;
- the view of Mount Ararat from Khor Virap;
- the atmosphere of Geghard;
- the cliffs of Noravank;
- the food;
- the feeling of safety;
- the fact that the country is still relatively untouched by mass tourism.
What to know when traveling with a baby:
- distances can be longer than expected;
- some roads are mountainous;
- avoid overloading the day;
- it’s better to have a driver or a car;
- plan for breaks, water, diapers, baby meals;
- a stroller isn’t always practical on ancient sites;
- a baby carrier can be very useful.
Recommended 5-day itinerary
For a first trip, I’d suggest:
Day 1: Yerevan
Day 2: Etchmiadzin + Khor Virap
Day 3: Garni + Geghard
Day 4: Noravank + Areni
Day 5: Sevan + return to Yerevan
It’s balanced, not too tiring, and gives a great first impression of the country.
Conclusion
Armenia is a wonderful destination with a baby, as long as you travel slowly and don’t try to see everything.
What touched us most, beyond the landscapes and monasteries, was the attitude toward children. There, you feel that babies are welcomed with real tenderness. In restaurants, people naturally helped us, played with our child, and gave us a few minutes to breathe.
That’s rare, and it makes a big difference in the travel experience.
Armenia isn’t a destination you consume quickly.
It’s a country that you *feel*.
For those who love cultural, spiritual, historical, family, and human-centered travel, I highly recommend it.
I’ve read the forum a lot and found a wealth of information. I’ve tried to compile all of it into our itinerary and would love your feedback to finalize the bookings (we’re planning this *very* last-minute).
Here’s what we’re thinking of doing:
22 July: arrival in Johannesburg
Night of 22–23: Johannesburg
Nights of 23–26: Marloth Park (with Kruger visits on the 24th, 25th, and a crossing visit on the 26th)
Nights of 26–28: Graskop (visiting the canyon and Panorama Road on the 27th and 28th)
Nights of 28–30: Hoedspruit (visiting the central area of Kruger on the 29th?)
Nights of 30 July–1 August: Balule Park (private reserve with safari)
Nights of 1–5 August: flight from Hoedspruit to Cape Town, then 2 days in Cape Town, 1 day on the peninsula, and 2 days for wine (just the route) or something else based on your advice (we don’t know where to stay—whether to stay all 5 nights in Cape Town and where in the city, or do 2 nights in Cape Town and 3 nights nearby—but where?)
Night of 5–6 August: Kelders for penguins and whales
Nights of 6–8 August: Tsitsikamma (what is there to do/see?)
Nights of 8–10 August: Addo Park on the 9th
10 August: flight from Port Elizabeth to Johannesburg and back home
What do you think?
Is there a lot of driving time?
We’d really appreciate your comments and suggestions.
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We're heading to Colombia soon for two weeks as a family with our two 10-year-old boys. I'm a bit behind on planning our itinerary and could really use your advice!
We arrive in Cartagena, where we'll spend 3 nights.
Next, we're heading to the Tayrona area for 3 nights. Could you recommend a nice hotel with a pool, ideally family-friendly? Unfortunately, Senda Watapuy and Senda Koguiwa are already fully booked for our dates.
After that, we were thinking of spending a few days in Minca. Is that a good idea in late July/early August? How many nights would you recommend?
Finally, we're looking for a last stop before returning to France. We've heard about Mompox, but we're hesitant because it seems like a big detour. We love nature, animals, beautiful landscapes, beaches, and authentic places. Do you think Mompox is worth the detour with two kids, or would you recommend another destination (Palomino, Barú, La Guajira...) instead?
We don’t want to take any domestic flights.
Thanks in advance for all your tips and experiences!
This summer, we’ve decided to do a 3-week road trip starting from Nice and heading down to Ksamil in Albania.
We’re leaving from Nice, and our route is already pretty much set:
Nice - Verona (Italy) - Rijeka (Croatia) - Zadar - Split - Budva (Montenegro) - Shkodër (Albania) - Ksamil, then back through Italy via Bari.
The itinerary is packed! 🙂
Do you have any suggestions for things to see—visits, beaches, viewpoints, villages, or excursions—to make the most of our journey?
Hi there, we're planning our vacation in Indonesia. We're a family with two kids aged 11 and 14. We leave on July 26th and return on August 17th, 2026.
We initially planned to visit Bali, Komodo, and Flores, but after looking into it more, we came across Sumatra, which is less touristy... a real plus for us. However, skipping Bali might be a shame.
I was wondering if spending 12 days in Sumatra and finishing with about 7 days in Bali is a doable plan.
Hi,
I’m traveling with my 5-year-old son this summer to Northern Thailand, Northern Vietnam, Yunnan, and Indonesia. I plan to equip him with a GPS tracker, but the SIM cards come with a contract. Do you know what the options are in Asia?
Thanks,
Nora
Hi there,
We’d like to spend 2 days in Lyon in May with our 8- and 12-year-old kids, exploring the city on foot.
We’ll arrive on day 1 around 11 AM and leave on day 2 around 6 PM.
I’ve mapped out two routes and was wondering if they’re doable in our 2 days, and if you have any tips or info on visit prices.
We’re not sure where to stay yet, but we’d like to optimize by booking accommodation (hotel or Airbnb) between the two routes, maybe?
Hi there!
I’m planning a trip with my wife and our three kids (ages 9, 6, and 3) from April 16 to May 6.
I’ve started sketching out the itinerary, trying to alternate between visits, hikes, safaris, and downtime. I want to keep the pace relaxed given the kids’ ages.
Could you let me know what you think of this route? I removed Nuwara Eliya, which I had originally planned before Ella, to cut down on stops. I was also wondering if I should break up the Arugam Bay to Colombo leg with an overnight in Galle, since it’s a long drive.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Day 1 – 04/16: Wilpattu
Arrival at the airport (08:00) + transfer to Wilpattu (180 km, 4–5 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 2 – 04/17: Wilpattu
Morning & afternoon safari
Overnight: Wilpattu
Day 3 – 04/18: Trincomalee
Transfer Wilpattu → Trincomalee (200 km, 4–5 h) + beach relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 4 – 04/19: Trincomalee
Nilaveli Beach
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 5 – 04/20: Trincomalee
Pigeon Island snorkeling
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 6 – 04/21: Trincomalee
Fort Frederick & relaxation
Overnight: Trincomalee
Day 7 – 04/22: Sigiriya
Transfer Trincomalee → Sigiriya (120 km, ~3 h) + visit to Dambulla
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 8 – 04/23: Sigiriya
Sigiriya Rock
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 9 – 04/24: Sigiriya
Minneriya safari
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 10 – 04/25: Sigiriya
Polonnaruwa & village tour
Overnight: Sigiriya
Day 11 – 04/26: Ella
Transfer Sigiriya → Ella (230 km, 5–6 h) + rest
Overnight: Ella
Day 12 – 04/27: Ella
Little Adam’s Peak & Nine Arches Bridge
Overnight: Ella
Day 13 – 04/28: Ella
Ella Rock
Overnight: Ella
Day 14 – 04/29: Ella
Tea Factory & relaxation
Overnight: Ella
Day 15 – 04/30: Yala
Transfer Ella → Yala (110 km, 2–3 h) + afternoon safari
Overnight: Yala
Day 16 – 05/01: Arugam Bay
Transfer Yala → Arugam Bay (80 km, 2.5–3 h) + beach time
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 17 – 05/02: Arugam Bay
Surfing & relaxation
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 18 – 05/03: Arugam Bay
Local exploration
Overnight: Arugam Bay
Day 19 – 05/04: Colombo
Transfer Arugam Bay → Colombo (320 km, 7–8 h) + rest
Overnight: Colombo
Day 20 – 05/05: Colombo
City tour & shopping
Overnight: Colombo
Day 21 – 05/06: Colombo
Morning return flight from Colombo
We’re heading to Sri Lanka for three weeks in July with two kids (ages 6 and 13).
We’ve drafted a rough itinerary but would love to hear from those who’ve already been there 😊
Of course, we want to see everything, but we have to make choices—even though three weeks on the ground lets us do quite a bit.
We originally planned a schedule that felt too packed, so we had to cut one stop. We decided to skip Tangalle, even though we were really tempted. The monsoon won’t let us swim there, and the weather in the south is too uncertain, so we preferred to keep our stops on the east coast. Plus, we don’t think it’s reasonable to cut nights from other places.
We’ve added a stop in Batticaloa, which we think will be a nice break between Arugam Bay and Sigiriya. What do you think?
We’re also debating between Batticaloa and Passikudah.
Does the itinerary seem logical to you?
Here it is:
Sri Lanka Itinerary
Day 1
Arrival around 1 PM at the airport
Night in Negombo
Day 2
Drive from Negombo to Galle
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 3
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Night in Galle
Day 4
Visit Galle and surrounding areas
Drive from Galle to Udawalawe
Night in Udawalawe
Day 5
Visit Udawalawe National Park
Night in Udawalawe
Day 6
Drive from Udawalawe to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 7
Ella Rock
+ Nine Arch Bridge
Night in Ella
Day 8
Visit Haputale
Lipton’s Seat and Dambatenne Tea Factory
Train ride back from Haputale to Ella
Night in Ella
Day 9
Little Adam’s Peak
+ drive from Ella to Arugam Bay
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 10
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 11
Visit Arugam Bay and surrounding areas
Night in Arugam Bay
Day 12
Drive from Arugam Bay to Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 13
Visit Batticaloa
Night in Batticaloa
Day 14
Drive from Batticaloa to Sigiriya
Night in Sigiriya
Day 15
Lion Rock and Pidurangala
Night in Sigiriya
Day 16
Visit Dambulla
Drive from Sigiriya to Trincomalee
Night in Trincomalee
Day 17
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 18
Visit Trincomalee and surrounding areas
Night in Trincomalee
Day 19
Drive from Trincomalee to Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 20
Visit Anuradhapura
Night in Anuradhapura
Day 21
Visit Mihintale
Drive from Anuradhapura to Negombo
Night in Negombo
Day 22
Day in Negombo and return flight
We’d love to hear your thoughts and tips! Thanks in advance!
We’re planning a 4-month trip in spring 2027. We’re looking for a third destination that optimizes transport costs. Ideally, somewhere very different from the other two (Polynesia and Indonesia). Thanks
Hi everyone!
We’re so excited to be heading to Italy for the first time this April with our two kids for a week. We’ve booked our round-trip flight, and we’ll be arriving and departing from Pisa.
Our rough plan so far includes visiting Pisa, taking the train to Florence, and exploring the Cinque Terre. Last night, a friend also suggested adding Siena to the list.
Our kids are 12 and 9 and are used to walking, but we’re not looking to rush around too much. We’d love any advice, especially about accommodation. Should we stay in Pisa and take day trips by train, or split our nights between a couple of different places?
We’re just starting our research, so any tips would be amazing! 😉
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
A few days ago, I asked my 14-year-old son to pick a destination for a trip, and he chose Germany. So, we’re heading to Berlin for four days in February. The catch is that I don’t know this city (or this country) at all—I hadn’t even considered visiting just a month ago .
Could you please share some suggestions to make this first mother-son trip abroad a success? 🙂
Thanks for your tips and great deals.
Nanyne
Next summer, we (2 adults and a 12-year-old child) have decided to visit Japan.
Admittedly, it’s still early to plan everything, but my wife will soon need to request her vacation time—either in August or July... and we’re hesitating.
I know summer isn’t the ideal time to visit Japan, but we don’t really have a choice... It’s either July or August. On one hand, I’d love to experience the O-Bon festivities from August 14th to 16th, and I’ve drafted an initial itinerary that would let us experience the Gujo Hachiman Bon Odori, possibly visit the Okunoin Cemetery in Koyasan, and be in Kyoto on the 16th for the Gozan Okuribi fires. But on the other hand, I’m worried it’ll be *packed*, especially in Kyoto, and less enjoyable than in July. So, have any of you experienced these celebrations? Are they worth it? Too crowded? Do you know of other celebrations or festivals in July?
Thanks for your input!
I’m reaching out because I’ve already read tons of info from other forums (thanks a million, by the way!) and blogs, but now I’m overwhelmed with details and have so many questions. I’m really hoping you can help us figure this out! Here’s the plan:
We’re leaving France for Senegal in our camper van (with two kids, aged 4 and 7), then shipping the van to South Africa before heading to Namibia. We’re planning to leave this summer and should arrive in South Africa in early September. The goal is to reach Réunion by early December, which gives us 3 months to explore Southern Africa. Originally, we wanted to pick up the van in Cape Town, head up to Namibia, and visit the main parks and iconic spots, then go north to Botswana (Etosha Park) and Zimbabwe (Victoria Falls) before heading back down to South Africa to enjoy the milder temperatures while exploring the country. But now we’re wondering how to get back to South Africa. We’ve come up with three options:
- Head back down through Botswana: I’ve read everywhere that Botswana isn’t recommended for kids under 6 (most parks) because it can be potentially dangerous—few enclosures for animals (even though we have a camper van with "secure" beds), and the agencies we’ve contacted don’t recommend it. Plus, southern Botswana is tough to navigate in a camper van.
- Return from central Botswana (Maun) to Windhoek and drive back to Cape Town via Namibia.
- Cross Zimbabwe and potentially Mozambique to head down to Kruger Park and Johannesburg.
Anyone familiar with this region have any recommendations?
Also, is it necessary to book accommodations in advance? Is that only required in certain countries (maybe Botswana/Zimbabwe)? We’d like a mix of camping and lodges.
Hi there,
We’re planning a two-week trip to Colombia with our two kids at the end of July – early August, with a round-trip flight to Cartagena.
What itinerary would you recommend, knowing we’d prefer to avoid domestic flights?
We were thinking of Cartagena, Tayrona Park, Mompox, and maybe an island.
Do you think it’s a shame to skip big cities like Bogotá or Medellín?
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Good morning! We're heading to Cape Verde for 2 weeks at the end of April—São Vicente, Boa Vista, and Santiago. We’re a family of 5: 3 kids (4, 6, and 12) and 2 adults.
My questions revolve around beaches (a spot with interesting snorkeling and safe swimming for the kids), accommodation (kid-friendly, parks nearby, pool, beach, or nature—more like guesthouses or family-run pensions), hikes (accessible for kids), and whether renting a car makes sense depending on the island, even though local buses are an adventure in themselves.
**Santiago:**
- Beach & snorkeling: Tarrafal, Quebra Canela in Praia, Ribeira da Barca (okay for kids?), Águas Belas?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Malagueta?, Baobab Boa Entrada, Pico António (accessible? elevation gain, time to climb, difficulty, interest for kids?)
**Boa Vista:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Santa Mónica, Praia de Chaves, Gatas, ... Estoril Beach in Sal Rei maybe?
- Can we swim at Turtle Bay to see the turtles even though it’s not nesting season?
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: Viana Desert? Can we explore it solo by renting a 4x4 and easily find the points of interest?
- Is it worth renting a 4x4 for our stay in Boa Vista?
**São Vicente:**
- Beach + snorkeling: Laginha, Porto Grande, Praia Grande, Baía das Gatas, São Pedro...? (safe, good snorkeling?)
- Any nice places to stay?
- Hikes: cliffs?, Monte Verde?
Thanks for your feedback, great tips—especially for accommodation where we’re totally in the dark! And your thoughts on whether renting a car is a good idea and which beaches are safest for kids.
Hi,
We’d like to visit the Alpes de Haute-Provence for 2 weeks with our 2 (adult) kids.
Any ideas for things to see and do?
Where should we choose our accommodation (house only) to be centrally located for sightseeing? We’re looking for villages with restaurants and bakeries.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best regards
Hi there, we’re heading to Tuscany in the second half of August with two kids (8 and 6 years old).
We’ve zeroed in on the area around Siena and Florence for now.
I’m looking for recommendations on places to stay and things to see that are great for families.
Also, just to add, we’ll be traveling by train and plan to rent a car once we’re there—any tips on car rental companies?
Hello everyone,
We’ve decided to head to Quebec next year—it’s been a dream for the whole family (after watching so many travel shows and the like...). There’ll be five of us: 2 adults, 2 teens (16 and 13), and a child (8 years old). We’re all pretty good walkers, though maybe the teens a little less so—it’s just that age, you know? 😊 That said, they’ve got no problem doing 15 km hikes, just not every single day.
We’re planning to go from July 23 to August 14, arriving and departing from Montreal, so almost 3 weeks.
I’ve started looking into logistics and accommodation prices, but before I dive into bookings, I’d love some advice on the itinerary. I’ve read a few threads here and there.
Our idea is to visit between 3 and 5 different places over the 3 weeks, so that means the same number of accommodations. The goal is to optimize travel as much as possible—I’ve realized that getting around can take a long time.
I think the first two days will be in Montreal to adjust to the time difference, and the last two in Quebec City, though that’s not set in stone.
Anyway, I’m not really sure about the route. I’ve got time to plan everything, but I know the longer we wait, the more expensive and scarce accommodations will get.
Same goes for budget—we’ve set aside a mid-range budget, flights included: 3k per person (1k for the flight). So if you’ve got any great tips or advice, we’re all ears!
I was thinking of going up the St. Lawrence River, but I’m not sure how long that takes or where to stop. Maybe there are other places worth visiting farther away...
Anyway, thanks for reading this far! If you’ve got any questions, don’t hesitate.
I hope you're starting this new year with your head full of travel memories or plans!!
I’d love to spend a week in July on a Greek island with my 8-year-old son. I’m totally in love with Amorgos, but not all the beaches are accessible for him. I’ve been to Santorini and Naxos before and don’t want to go back. Would you have an island to recommend that’s not too crowded 😕, with a few accessible beaches and where we won’t have to fight to get around or park?
A few months ago, I posted a message in the Southern Africa section about a family trip in July/August. In the end, since I had too much trouble deciding on the destination and procrastinated too much with the planning 😎, I changed my mind and we’re going for a completely different trip—to Madagascar, a country we already know a bit since we’ve traveled there several times for 4 to 6 months each time, though our last visit was back in 2012!
The tickets are booked: 19 days on the ground (excluding arrival and departure days in Tana), spanning July and August.
We’re not looking to rack up landscapes (and kilometers). The kids really want to see lots of animals, while we mostly want to show them what daily life is like in Malagasy villages. So ideally, we’d like a trip split into two parts:
- For 8/10 days, a hiking portion. The idea isn’t to do a tough trek in very remote areas but rather to walk from one village to another. Let’s say 3-4 hours a day. And when we arrive in each village, we’d have time to explore a bit, chat with the locals, let our kids play with the village children, etc. Stay with locals when possible. Move to a new village every day or every 2-3 days.
- A few days visiting 1 or 2 national parks (with lemurs if possible to keep everyone happy!)
- With the inevitable travel days, we’ll quickly hit 19 days.
Does this kind of trip sound doable (and fun) to you? Do you know of any villages that would fit our hiking plans?
I don’t have a preferred region yet, except that very dry landscapes appeal to me less. My real love from past trips was the highlands and their bright green rice paddies against red earth, but I’m a bit worried about the cold at this time of year.
After my initial research (thanks to this forum), I get the impression that the Ambalavao/Ambohimahamasina area might meet our criteria. I saw there are "accueil paysan" (farm stays) in that area, which could match what we’re looking for and would let us visit Andringitra National Park and Ranomafana on the way there or back.
But I’m open to all your more original ideas!
For logistical questions (transport, guides, accommodations, etc.), I’ll tackle those later—it’ll depend on the area we choose.
We’re a family with young kids (6 years old, 3 years old, and a newborn) and we’d like to spend about ten days in Aquitaine (in Gironde or Les Landes).
We’d love to be near pretty villages to visit and, if possible, close to the sea.
We’re planning to stay at a campsite with a pool so the kids can play.
Could you recommend any places/villages/campsites for us?
We don’t know the region at all.
We’re a family of five (our kids are 6, 15, and 19) and we’d love to go somewhere warm with our feet in the water during the first two weeks of August 2026. We’d also like to do some cultural visits and a bit of hiking. We were thinking of Guadeloupe—I know it’s not the ideal time of year, but we don’t have much flexibility. Is it really a bad idea, or can we still enjoy it despite the weather?
Another option for us would be Madeira, which seems more reliable weather-wise, but it sounds like the beaches are less accessible and not as nice.
We haven’t really looked elsewhere because everything else (except the Canary Islands, Balearics, or Corsica) seems way too expensive. But if you’ve got any recommendations, don’t hesitate—we’re just starting to look into it.
Hi,
This summer, we’re spending a month in Malaysia. There are 3 adults and two kids in our group. I’ve just finished planning our itinerary and I’d love to get your thoughts on whether it feels "coherent."
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Christelle
07/07 Depart France 10:30 AM
08/07 Arrive KL 7:50 PM
09/07 KL
10/07 KL / Batu Caves
11/07 KL
12/07 KL → Kuching (flight)
13/07 Kuching
14/07 Bako National Park
15/07 Bako → Kuching
16/07 Semenggoh Reserve
17/07 Kuching → Mulu (flight)
18/07 Mulu National Park
19/07 Mulu → Kota Kinabalu (flight)
20/07 Kota Kinabalu → Sandakan (flight)
21/07 Kinabatangan
22/07 Kinabatangan → Sandakan / Sandakan → KL (flight)
23/07 Malacca
24/07 Malacca → Chin Swee Caves Temple
25/07 Chin Swee Caves Temple → Kuala Tahan / Taman Negara Park
26/07 Taman Negara Park
27/07 Kuala Tahan → Kuala Besut
28/07 Perhentian Islands
29/07 Perhentian Islands
30/07 Perhentian Islands
31/07 Perhentian → George Town
01/08 George Town / Penang
02/08 George Town / Penang
03/08 Ipoh
04/08 Cameron Highlands
05/08 Return to KL
06/08 Return to France
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Malaysia this July with my 6-year-old son.
I’d thought we’d go this year, but we ended up returning to Samui instead.
I’ve decided to limit it to 4 stops to avoid moving around too often and to fully enjoy each place without rushing. The travel times between each spot aren’t too long, except for the one between Sandakan and Langkawi.
* 05: Arrival in KL in the afternoon.
06: Day in KL. I’ve been there a few times and know the city a bit.
* 07: Head to Kota Kinabalu
08 – 09: In KK
* 10: Flight from Sandakan to Sepilok
11: In Sepilok
* 12: Flight to Kinabatangan
13 – 14: In Kinabatangan
* 15: Head to Langkawi
15 – 21: In Langkawi
* 22: Return to KL
23 – 24: In KL
* 25: Return flight
Any thoughts on this itinerary? I have a rough idea of what we’ll do at each stop after checking online and with ChatGPT.
We’re heading out at the end of February for a road trip with our two kids, ages 3 and 7. Our itinerary includes Ait Ben Haddou, Tizi-n-Tichka, Sourate, Tinghir, Zagora, Ouarzazate, Ouzoud, and Essaouira. I’d love recommendations for accommodations, restaurants, and typical/spectacular spots to visit. We’d like to spend a night in the Zagora desert. We’re looking for authenticity and a friendly vibe—not tourist traps—for our trip. We’ll be there during Ramadan—any tips?
Thanks in advance!
Your fellow globetrotter’s perspective is invaluable.
Wednesday, March 4 – Friday, March 6 — Sine-Saloum
Drive to Toubacouta via the Trans-Gambian Highway (Gambia)
Stay with a local host / camp on the bolongs
Activities: pirogue ride in the delta, Serer villages, biking, handicraft discovery
Overnights: Sine-Saloum (3 nights)
Saturday, March 7 – Sunday, March 8 — Petite Côte
Drive to Somone / Ngaparou (~3 hours)
Stay with a local host
Activities: beach, safari at Bandia Reserve, kayaking on the lagoon, craft market
Overnights: Petite Côte (2 nights, including Sunday, March 8, to enjoy the full day before the nighttime departure)
Monday, March 9 — Departure
Transfer to Blaise Diagne International Airport (~45 minutes)
Flight leaves at 2:00 AM
I’ve got a few questions:
- Is an afternoon on Gorée Island worth it? I really want to go, but the ferry departure days are a bit limiting.
- How easy is it to get around between these different stops? Can we find a taxi that fits all five of us?
- Do you have any accommodation recommendations? I’d love to stay with locals as much as possible—we’re not looking for luxury, just a bed and a shower.
- February 28 is my birthday, and I’d love to do something “special”: any ideas for a nice place to stay, a great restaurant, or an out-of-the-ordinary activity? We’ll be around Cap Skirring.
- Does this itinerary seem coherent? I really want to visit Casamance, and we’d prefer to stay no more than 3 nights in the same place.
Don’t hesitate to share your tips! Thanks so much!
Hello,
I’d like to go to Morocco with my 10-year-old daughter for three weeks in February.
Do you think, as women traveling alone, we’ll feel comfortable? Sorry if my question seems odd, but when I mentioned my plans, I got some hesitant reactions.
I’ve never been to North Africa. I’ve traveled several times to the Sultanate of Oman, where I felt very at ease as long as we respected the basic cultural norms. For those who know Morocco, do you think it’s different? Would it be appropriate for me to cover my head?
I was thinking of arriving in Agadir and spending a few days in Taghazout and the surrounding area.
After that, if you have any tips, I’m all ears. We’re looking to discover Moroccan cultures, see artisans at work, or even try our hand at a local craft—we’d love that. Simply meeting families, seeing landscapes, animals, and soaking in the culture gently, opening ourselves to something new—that’s what motivates us. And if there are opportunities to listen to local music, even better.
We’ll be traveling by public transport.
Thanks in advance for your ideas.
Happy travels to everyone.
we’re taking our grandkids in early 2026 (14 and 10 years old) without their parents. Do we really need to have birth certificates and other forms translated by a sworn translator?
Hi there, I’m really sorry if this question has already been asked several times—I’ve been scouring blogs, forums, and various sites for a while now, but I still have some more specific questions for our trip...
First off, we’re a family of four with two kids aged 10 and 14. We’ve already been to Thailand and Laos five times with them (each trip lasting a month or six weeks), and we’re huge Thailand lovers, but this year we’d like to discover Indonesia, which we don’t know at all (for a duration of 4 or 5 weeks between late June and late July). We travel pretty "roots" style with a budget of 100 € per day and avoid touristy areas as much as possible. We get around using local transport, rent scooters, and take our time (for a one-month trip, we usually visit 4 destinations to really soak it in). So here are my upcoming questions:
For a first visit, I wanted to focus on a single island—Lombok—by taking a flight from Paris to Denpasar and then a boat to Lombok.
Do you think the following route would work?
- Kuta Lombok
- Gili Gede
- Gili Meno
- Tetebatu
I saw there’s a local boat to Lombok—has anyone here taken it before?
For those who’ve been there during this period, do you know if Gili Meno and Gili Gede get crowded, or should we focus more on the coasts?
To get between these spots, are there buses, or do we need to take private taxis?
As for accommodations, we’re used to booking triple rooms for all four of us in Thailand. For those who travel with kids, do you know if that’s doable in Indonesia, or should we book two double rooms instead?
Last (slightly silly) question: We want to go to Indonesia because our son dreams of seeing beautiful marine life while snorkeling—I think Lombok is a good choice for that. But my daughter is a huge fan of those "knick-knack" markets full of Chinese trinkets that you find all over Thailand. Do you know if Lombok has any day or night markets where we could go?