Du KTP à Cape Town
by Rjulie95
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour Diamina,
Pour les babouins...comme tu le disais "de l'utilité d'un mari" Vous étiez prévenus !
Pour les babouins...comme tu le disais "de l'utilité d'un mari" Vous étiez prévenus !
michel85200
...😏
Emmener une Attila semble aussi une bonne solution vu que je n'ai subi aucune attaque babouinesque à ce jour. 😄
Le ratel en revanche. ..🤪
Le ratel en revanche. ..🤪
Ah tu as eu droit au ratel 🏴☠️ qui a gagné la côte de boeuf ?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Le premier qui touche à ma côte de boeuf ... 😠😮🏴☠️
Ratel 0 Attila 1 😛
L'honneur est sauf 😛 c'était quand me rappelle plus l'avoir lu
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Le premier qui touche à ma côte de boeuf ... 😠😮🏴☠️
Ratel 0 Attila 1 😛
😮 T'as piqué sa côte de bœuf à un ratel ?!?! Mais c'est dégueulasse !!!😠
😮 T'as piqué sa côte de bœuf à un ratel ?!?! Mais c'est dégueulasse !!!😠
Erwan
La vie est belle ! La vie est belle ! Je me tue à vous le dire disait la fleur. Et elle meurt ( J.Prévert)
T'as piqué sa côte de bœuf à un ratel ?!?!
Mais c'est dégueulasse !!!
Tu vois: à force de fumer des trucs pas clairs, tu comprends et entends tout de travers!!!!!! 😉
Tu vois: à force de fumer des trucs pas clairs, tu comprends et entends tout de travers!!!!!! 😉
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/
Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Je suis au Wimpy de Graaff Reinet..
Faut pas se laisser influencer comme ça, non mais!!!!
Faut pas se laisser influencer comme ça, non mais!!!!
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/
Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/
Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
Vu que le fait de rester au cap avec les frais de drop fait un peut trop augmenter le budget, j'envisage de rentrer sur Jobourg.
Voilà l'itinéraire envisagé, pourriez vous me dire ce que vous en pensez ?
J13 Kgalagadi Lodge - Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J14 Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J15 Kgalagadi Grootkolk - Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J16 Kgalagadi Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J17 Kgalagadi - Augrabies Falls J18 Augrabies Falls J19 Augrabies Falls - Taaiboskraal (namaqualand) J20 Taaiboskraal J21 Taaiboskraal - Western National Park J22 Western National Park J23 Western National Park - Mount Ceder J24 Mount Ceder J25 Mount Ceder - Karaoo National Park J26 Karaoo National Park J27 Karaoo National Park - Bloemfontein J28 Bloemfontein - Jobourg - Depart Paris Pour le dernier jour tout dépendra de l'heure du retour de l'avion selon on pourra rajouter un J29
Voilà l'itinéraire envisagé, pourriez vous me dire ce que vous en pensez ?
J13 Kgalagadi Lodge - Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J14 Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J15 Kgalagadi Grootkolk - Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J16 Kgalagadi Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J17 Kgalagadi - Augrabies Falls J18 Augrabies Falls J19 Augrabies Falls - Taaiboskraal (namaqualand) J20 Taaiboskraal J21 Taaiboskraal - Western National Park J22 Western National Park J23 Western National Park - Mount Ceder J24 Mount Ceder J25 Mount Ceder - Karaoo National Park J26 Karaoo National Park J27 Karaoo National Park - Bloemfontein J28 Bloemfontein - Jobourg - Depart Paris Pour le dernier jour tout dépendra de l'heure du retour de l'avion selon on pourra rajouter un J29
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Il y a de la place dans la voiture 😛
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Tu comptes voir des lions (au KTP)? 😏😏😏
Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
Tu comptes voir des lions (au KTP)? 😏😏😏
Muriel
Yep ! A chaque voyage j'en vois 😛
Yep ! A chaque voyage j'en vois 😛
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
C'est plus le prix du billet sur le Cap qui risque d'augmenter le prix du voyage que les frais de drop off...
En août, j'irais plus à Kieliekrankie qu'au Kalahari Tc. C'est en dur, il y fera plus chaud ! (En plus, c'est plus beau...)
Tu peux facilement faire la vallée de l auob depuis ce camp.
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
En août, j'irais plus à Kieliekrankie qu'au Kalahari Tc. C'est en dur, il y fera plus chaud ! (En plus, c'est plus beau...)
Le froid ne me dérange pas, j'ai surtout ciblé les 3 camps où je souhaite me rendre en priorité, après on verra en fonction des disponiblités. Mais je le je note
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
Je vais patienter
Le froid ne me dérange pas, j'ai surtout ciblé les 3 camps où je souhaite me rendre en priorité, après on verra en fonction des disponiblités. Mais je le je note
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
Je vais patienter
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Sur ta route de retour, y a le Mountain Zebra. Dans quelques jours sur mon carnet. .😇
C'est pas du tout sur la route directe entre le karoo national park et Jobourg 🏴☠️
C'est pas du tout sur la route directe entre le karoo national park et Jobourg 🏴☠️
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Tu enlèves ce parc Western National Park et tu remplaces également Bloemfontein par Golden Gate Highlands (uniquement si il y a de la place pour se loger à Highland retreat). 😉
Ben pourquoi?
Il est bien le west coast np
Elle doit t'en vouloir un peu 😉
@Atilla : Je trouve que ça fait trop de détour, une autre fois 😇
Il est bien le west coast np
Elle doit t'en vouloir un peu 😉
@Atilla : Je trouve que ça fait trop de détour, une autre fois 😇
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Ben pourquoi?
Parce que j'ai adoré Mountain Zebra et la vue (+ la promenade )d'Highland retreat. 😉
Je ne connais pas West coast NP mais je me méfie du temps en hiver en bord de mer.
(Tu me diras qu'il peut y avoir de la neige à Highland retreat mais ça n'en aurait qu'encore plus de gueule .😛 )
Parce que j'ai adoré Mountain Zebra et la vue (+ la promenade )d'Highland retreat. 😉
Je ne connais pas West coast NP mais je me méfie du temps en hiver en bord de mer.
(Tu me diras qu'il peut y avoir de la neige à Highland retreat mais ça n'en aurait qu'encore plus de gueule .😛 )
Avec un peu de bol il aura droit aux fleurs et la partie Postberg devrait être ouverte...
Et il verra des zèbres !
(pas des montagnes, certes 😏)
Et il verra des zèbres !
(pas des montagnes, certes 😏)
michel85200
Je serais dans le coin vers le 22/08
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Donc, des fleurs, des baleines et la partie Postberg ouverte...que du fun
michel85200
Nickel 😛
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Attila sur un autre post tu dis ceci :
Il existe des pistes où tu ne croiseras personne au ktp côté afs mais, arghh 😄, il faut réserver.
Tu peux me dire lesquelles ?
Il existe des pistes où tu ne croiseras personne au ktp côté afs mais, arghh 😄, il faut réserver.
Tu peux me dire lesquelles ?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Le nossob 4x4 eco trail.
Faut être 2 4x4 et c'est camping...
Une nuit à Bitterpan est une option plus simple. 😉
(Il y avait aussi un court trail près de Twee Rivieren- pas de nuits- mais comme il n'est plus indiqué, je ne sais pas s'il est toujours ouvert)
Faut être 2 4x4 et c'est camping...
Une nuit à Bitterpan est une option plus simple. 😉
(Il y avait aussi un court trail près de Twee Rivieren- pas de nuits- mais comme il n'est plus indiqué, je ne sais pas s'il est toujours ouvert)
Une nuit à Bitterpan est une option plus simple. 😉
(Il y avait aussi un court trail près de Twee Rivieren- pas de nuits- mais comme il n'est plus indiqué, je ne sais pas s'il est toujours ouvert)
Les Eco Trail j'avais vu, mais bon camping et tout ça pas pour le moment. J'ai Bitterpan dans mes tablettes, tu y es déjà allé ? La piste est 4x4 est pas trop compliquée ?
(Il y avait aussi un court trail près de Twee Rivieren- pas de nuits- mais comme il n'est plus indiqué, je ne sais pas s'il est toujours ouvert)
Les Eco Trail j'avais vu, mais bon camping et tout ça pas pour le moment. J'ai Bitterpan dans mes tablettes, tu y es déjà allé ? La piste est 4x4 est pas trop compliquée ?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Je suis allée à Bitterpan mais j'ai triché en ne prenant pas la longue piste 4x4.
Xtrail et ensablement 2 heures avant pour sortir de Gharagab oblige. 😊
Si c'est comme Gharagab (et je pense que ça l'est), c'est la piste 4x4 la plus compliquée que nous ayons prise jusqu'ici. (franchissement de dunes de sable)
Bien plus compliqué que de sortir par Kaa.
Xtrail et ensablement 2 heures avant pour sortir de Gharagab oblige. 😊
Si c'est comme Gharagab (et je pense que ça l'est), c'est la piste 4x4 la plus compliquée que nous ayons prise jusqu'ici. (franchissement de dunes de sable)
Bien plus compliqué que de sortir par Kaa.
Je crois que pour un premier passage on va faire simple
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Michel sur ton carnet du coté de mount ceder tu dis avoir fait "Majestirivier" mais quand on regarde sur le site Mountain Pass on ne reconnait pas du tout par apport a tes photos ... tu peux me confirmer que c'est bien celle là ?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
ça doit plutôt être celle là non?
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
L'Eselbank pass c'est bien celle-là. L'arrivée sur Wupperthal ( ou plutôt le départ de Wupperthal a du changé puisqu'en travaux quand on y est passé, ce ne doit plus être le même chemin caillouteux).
Le lien de notre parcours https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Eselbank+Mor+Primary+School, +Citrusdal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Mount+Ceder, +Grootrivier+Farm, +Breede+River+DC, +6836/Wupperthal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Clanwilliam, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/@-32.3570834,18.868587,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m26!4m25!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c328b190d916aa7:0x602dd4da291e82f0!2m2!1d19.2159999!2d-32.3465!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32a2e5d5cfc243:0x2471cbebe2ecf1f!2m2!1d19.4091432!2d-32.6486958!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c3260add6a6bcf1:0x68ddd407c126c812!2m2!1d19.1939509!2d-32.238726!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32520e5491a8db:0xa508061c650d7a3a!2m2!1d18.8967409!2d-32.1975789!3e0
On traverse bien la Matjiriver (?) nature reserve et c'est le coin le plus top.
On traverse bien la Matjiriver (?) nature reserve et c'est le coin le plus top.
michel85200
Oui c'est le deuxième lien, le premier est pratiquement tout plat !
Sur le descriptif sur Mountain pass il dit qu'il a vu des gens le faire en voiture de ville 🤪
Sur le descriptif sur Mountain pass il dit qu'il a vu des gens le faire en voiture de ville 🤪
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Salut,
Petites précissions.
En arrivant par le Sud au Mount Ceder: Blinkberg pass / Mount Ceder / Groot River Pass. On file tout droit en laissant à gauche la Kromrivier Pass (pass pour un gars qui n'a pas peur de se noyer et de franchir un gué olé olé). Quand la route fait 90° à gauche (l'Ouest) on file tout droit vers Eselbank Wupperthal.
Au retour, en venant de Clanwilliam, la Nieuwoudt pass et la Uitkyk pass pour revenir au MC. Le retour est bien plus facile mais sur la façade Ouest donc avec plus facilement des nuages.
Petites précissions.
En arrivant par le Sud au Mount Ceder: Blinkberg pass / Mount Ceder / Groot River Pass. On file tout droit en laissant à gauche la Kromrivier Pass (pass pour un gars qui n'a pas peur de se noyer et de franchir un gué olé olé). Quand la route fait 90° à gauche (l'Ouest) on file tout droit vers Eselbank Wupperthal.
Au retour, en venant de Clanwilliam, la Nieuwoudt pass et la Uitkyk pass pour revenir au MC. Le retour est bien plus facile mais sur la façade Ouest donc avec plus facilement des nuages.
michel85200
J'ai pas mal modifié mon itinéraire pour mon prochain voyage en AFS, voilà ce que ça donne maintenant, si vous avez des remarques n’hésitez pas 😛
@Michel il y a de la place dans la voiture 🙂
J1 Avion Jobourg J2 Route Parc Kruger - Nelspruit - www.beetleloop.co.za/ J3 Arrivé Kruger - Byamiti J4 Byamiti J5 Byamiti - Départ Tamboti J6 Tamboti J7 Tamboti - Depart shindzela J8 Shindzela J9 Shindzela - Jobourg - Sunrock GuestHouse J10 Jobourg - Golden Gate Highlands J11Golden Gate Highlands J12 Golden Gate Highlands - Mt Zebra National Park J13 Mt Zebra National Park J14 Mt Zebra National Park - Samara Private Game J15 Samara Private Game J16 Samara Private Game - Graf Reynet - aaqtansisi.co.za J17 Camdeboo National Park J18 Camdeboo National Park - Karaoo National Park J19 Karaoo National Park J20 Karaoo National Park - Mount Cedar J21 Mount Cedar J22 Mount Cedar - Western National Park J23 Western National Park www.farrout.co.za/ J24 Western National Park - Taaiboskraal J25 Taaiboskraal J26 Taaiboskraal - Augrabies Falls J27 Augrabies Falls J28 Augrabies Falls - kgalagadi Lodge J29 kgalagadi Lodge - Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J30 Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J31 Kgalagadi Grootkolk - Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J32 Kgalagadi Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J33 Kgalagadi - Lichtenburg J34 Retour Paris
@Michel il y a de la place dans la voiture 🙂
J1 Avion Jobourg J2 Route Parc Kruger - Nelspruit - www.beetleloop.co.za/ J3 Arrivé Kruger - Byamiti J4 Byamiti J5 Byamiti - Départ Tamboti J6 Tamboti J7 Tamboti - Depart shindzela J8 Shindzela J9 Shindzela - Jobourg - Sunrock GuestHouse J10 Jobourg - Golden Gate Highlands J11Golden Gate Highlands J12 Golden Gate Highlands - Mt Zebra National Park J13 Mt Zebra National Park J14 Mt Zebra National Park - Samara Private Game J15 Samara Private Game J16 Samara Private Game - Graf Reynet - aaqtansisi.co.za J17 Camdeboo National Park J18 Camdeboo National Park - Karaoo National Park J19 Karaoo National Park J20 Karaoo National Park - Mount Cedar J21 Mount Cedar J22 Mount Cedar - Western National Park J23 Western National Park www.farrout.co.za/ J24 Western National Park - Taaiboskraal J25 Taaiboskraal J26 Taaiboskraal - Augrabies Falls J27 Augrabies Falls J28 Augrabies Falls - kgalagadi Lodge J29 kgalagadi Lodge - Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J30 Kgalagadi - Grootkolk J31 Kgalagadi Grootkolk - Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J32 Kgalagadi Kieliekrankie ou Kalahari tented camp J33 Kgalagadi - Lichtenburg J34 Retour Paris
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Je ne suis pas sûre que deux nuits au golden gate highland, ça ne fasse pas un peu trop surtout qu après ton étape est chargée. Une nuit et le lendemain une nuit pour te rapprocher de Mountain Zebra.
Pour le ktp, il est où le lodge où tu veux dormir avant Grootkolk ? Si c'est celui à moins de 5 km de l entrée et que l horaire d ouverture du parc correspond à l horaire d ouverture des camps, c'est bon.
Pour le ktp, il est où le lodge où tu veux dormir avant Grootkolk ? Si c'est celui à moins de 5 km de l entrée et que l horaire d ouverture du parc correspond à l horaire d ouverture des camps, c'est bon.
Je ne suis pas sûre que deux nuits au golden gate highland, ça ne fasse pas un peu trop surtout qu après ton étape est chargée. Une nuit et le lendemain une nuit pour te rapprocher de Mountain Zebra.
Le problème c'est qu'entre le moment ou je récupère la voiture et le moment de partir ça risque de faire juste pour profiter du parc .. J'ai deux grosses étapes sur mon voyage celle-ci et celle me ramenant du KTP à Lichtenburg. Mais il faut se rapprocher le plus possible pour l'avion.
Pour le ktp, il est où le lodge où tu veux dormir avant Grootkolk ? Si c'est celui à moins de 5 km de l entrée et que l horaire d ouverture du parc correspond à l horaire d ouverture des camps, c'est bon.
C'est celui là : http://www.kgalagadi-lodge.co.za/ il est censé être juste a coté de l'entrée .... par contre pas tout compris sur l'histoire de l'horaire 🏴☠️
Le problème c'est qu'entre le moment ou je récupère la voiture et le moment de partir ça risque de faire juste pour profiter du parc .. J'ai deux grosses étapes sur mon voyage celle-ci et celle me ramenant du KTP à Lichtenburg. Mais il faut se rapprocher le plus possible pour l'avion.
Pour le ktp, il est où le lodge où tu veux dormir avant Grootkolk ? Si c'est celui à moins de 5 km de l entrée et que l horaire d ouverture du parc correspond à l horaire d ouverture des camps, c'est bon.
C'est celui là : http://www.kgalagadi-lodge.co.za/ il est censé être juste a coté de l'entrée .... par contre pas tout compris sur l'histoire de l'horaire 🏴☠️
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Le problème c'est qu'entre le moment ou je récupère la voiture et le moment de partir ça risque de faire juste pour profiter du parc..
Ce parc n'est pas si loin de Johannesbourg. En arrivant, tu auras le temps de te promener au dessus des bungalows du Highland retreat + le coucher du soleil.
Le lendemain, tu fais les deux loops en voiture (aller à la cache à vautours) et une des courtes promenades piétonnes en face du camp principal.
Tu as ensuite largement le temps de prévoir ton étape suivant à 100 kilomètres de là (Fouriesburg, Ficksburg).
Ça fera toujours ça de moins à faire pour rallier Mountain Zebra !😉
C'est celui là : www.kgalagadi-lodge.co.za/ il est censé être juste a coté de l'entrée....
Il l'est bien.
par contre pas tout compris sur l'histoire de l'horaire 🏴☠️
Y a des fois où les horaires des portes extérieures des parcs ne correspondent pas aux horaires d'ouverture de celles des camps.
Il vaut mieux donc vérifier !
(Après, généralement ça ne joue qu'à 30 minutes- 1 heure sauf l'entrée KTP depuis la Namibie où, à cause de la frontière, les horaires sont assez horaires de bureau)
Ce parc n'est pas si loin de Johannesbourg. En arrivant, tu auras le temps de te promener au dessus des bungalows du Highland retreat + le coucher du soleil.
Le lendemain, tu fais les deux loops en voiture (aller à la cache à vautours) et une des courtes promenades piétonnes en face du camp principal.
Tu as ensuite largement le temps de prévoir ton étape suivant à 100 kilomètres de là (Fouriesburg, Ficksburg).
Ça fera toujours ça de moins à faire pour rallier Mountain Zebra !😉
C'est celui là : www.kgalagadi-lodge.co.za/ il est censé être juste a coté de l'entrée....
Il l'est bien.
par contre pas tout compris sur l'histoire de l'horaire 🏴☠️
Y a des fois où les horaires des portes extérieures des parcs ne correspondent pas aux horaires d'ouverture de celles des camps.
Il vaut mieux donc vérifier !
(Après, généralement ça ne joue qu'à 30 minutes- 1 heure sauf l'entrée KTP depuis la Namibie où, à cause de la frontière, les horaires sont assez horaires de bureau)
Y a des fois où les horaires des portes extérieures des parcs ne correspondent pas aux horaires d'ouverture de celles des camps.
Il vaut mieux donc vérifier !
Sur cette page il est indiqué que les portes ouvrent à 7h du matin, donc si j'ai bien compris les portes des camps ouvrent à 7h00 et ferme à 18h30 en août.
En partant à 7h00, on va dire 8h00 avec les formalités, avec 6 h de route ça fait arriver à 14h00, ça laisse donc une marge assez important pour traîner 😛
C'est noté pour Golden Gate, merci
Il vaut mieux donc vérifier !
Sur cette page il est indiqué que les portes ouvrent à 7h du matin, donc si j'ai bien compris les portes des camps ouvrent à 7h00 et ferme à 18h30 en août.
En partant à 7h00, on va dire 8h00 avec les formalités, avec 6 h de route ça fait arriver à 14h00, ça laisse donc une marge assez important pour traîner 😛
C'est noté pour Golden Gate, merci
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Sur cette page il est indiqué que les portes ouvrent à 7h du matin, donc si j'ai bien compris les portes des camps ouvrent à 7h00 et ferme à 18h30 en août.
Sur cette page, il est indiqué que tu ne peux pas entrer au KTP par la porte de Twee Rivieren avant 07 00 quelque soit la saison et que tu ne peux pas sortir du camp de Twee Rivieren pour baguenauder parmi les fauves avant 07 00 en août.
Tu serais en janvier et tu logerais à Twee rivieren, tu pourrais aller en safari dès 05 30 alors qu'un visiteur extérieur devrait lui toujours attendre que les 0700 sonnent...
En partant à 7h00, on va dire 8h00 avec les formalités, avec 6 h de route ça fait arriver à 14h00, ça laisse donc une marge assez important pour traîner 😛
TR - Grootkolk, c'est bon . Un peu long mais pas de course contre la montre.😉
Sur cette page, il est indiqué que tu ne peux pas entrer au KTP par la porte de Twee Rivieren avant 07 00 quelque soit la saison et que tu ne peux pas sortir du camp de Twee Rivieren pour baguenauder parmi les fauves avant 07 00 en août.
Tu serais en janvier et tu logerais à Twee rivieren, tu pourrais aller en safari dès 05 30 alors qu'un visiteur extérieur devrait lui toujours attendre que les 0700 sonnent...
En partant à 7h00, on va dire 8h00 avec les formalités, avec 6 h de route ça fait arriver à 14h00, ça laisse donc une marge assez important pour traîner 😛
TR - Grootkolk, c'est bon . Un peu long mais pas de course contre la montre.😉
Comment dire ?
C'est chouette !
Un bonjour à Shindzela. J'espère que la RP de Samara est bien. Un coucou au Mount Ceder. Préviens Camdeboo , Karoo et Moutain Zebra que je viendrais. Re coucou aux girafes des Augrabies. Je te souhaite de voir plein de lions au KTP !
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C'est chouette !
Un bonjour à Shindzela. J'espère que la RP de Samara est bien. Un coucou au Mount Ceder. Préviens Camdeboo , Karoo et Moutain Zebra que je viendrais. Re coucou aux girafes des Augrabies. Je te souhaite de voir plein de lions au KTP !
Bref. Impec.
michel85200
C'est chouette !
Cool content je suis
J'espère que la RP de Samara est bien
J'espère aussi, mais a cette époque de l'année le prix est doux ....
Je te souhaite de voir plein de lions au KTP !
Merci 🙂
Cool content je suis
J'espère que la RP de Samara est bien
J'espère aussi, mais a cette époque de l'année le prix est doux ....
Je te souhaite de voir plein de lions au KTP !
Merci 🙂
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Bonjour Michel ! 🙂 et bonne année !!
Je commence doucement à m'interessé à la partie sud-africaine de notre voyage de cet été et je me demandais pourquoi avoir choisi cet itinéraire pour le Cederberg ? (cf plus haut)
N'y a t'il pas moyen de traverser le parc naturelle entre Clanwilliam et Mont Ceder ?
Je commence doucement à m'interessé à la partie sud-africaine de notre voyage de cet été et je me demandais pourquoi avoir choisi cet itinéraire pour le Cederberg ? (cf plus haut)
N'y a t'il pas moyen de traverser le parc naturelle entre Clanwilliam et Mont Ceder ?
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Bonjour, Bonne Année.
Euh...c'est Régis qui fait un parcours intéressant et original...
Si, il y a une 4x4 road qui va du Mount Ceder vers Clanwilliam via Esselbank et Wupperthal.
Un poil sportif mais super super...un forumeur l'a même fait en 4x4...version vélo.
Tu peux trouver cette route sur la carte (tu traverses la Majestiriver) et une partie sur le site Moutain Passes et là https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Mount+Ceder, +Grootrivier+Farm, +Breede+River+DC, +6836, +Afrique+du+Sud/Wupperthal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Clanwilliam, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/@-32.3565033,18.8685899,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32a2e5d5cfc243:0x2471cbebe2ecf1f!2m2!1d19.4091432!2d-32.6486958!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c3260add6a6bcf1:0x68ddd407c126c812!2m2!1d19.1939509!2d-32.238726!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32520e5491a8db:0xa508061c650d7a3a!2m2!1d18.8967409!2d-32.1975789!3e0
C'est extra !
Euh...c'est Régis qui fait un parcours intéressant et original...
Si, il y a une 4x4 road qui va du Mount Ceder vers Clanwilliam via Esselbank et Wupperthal.
Un poil sportif mais super super...un forumeur l'a même fait en 4x4...version vélo.
Tu peux trouver cette route sur la carte (tu traverses la Majestiriver) et une partie sur le site Moutain Passes et là https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Mount+Ceder, +Grootrivier+Farm, +Breede+River+DC, +6836, +Afrique+du+Sud/Wupperthal, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/Clanwilliam, +Cap-Occidental, +Afrique+du+Sud/@-32.3565033,18.8685899,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m20!4m19!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32a2e5d5cfc243:0x2471cbebe2ecf1f!2m2!1d19.4091432!2d-32.6486958!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c3260add6a6bcf1:0x68ddd407c126c812!2m2!1d19.1939509!2d-32.238726!1m5!1m1!1s0x1c32520e5491a8db:0xa508061c650d7a3a!2m2!1d18.8967409!2d-32.1975789!3e0
C'est extra !
michel85200
Euh...c'est Régis qui fait un parcours intéressant et original...
Que j'ai du réduire, car mon employeur n'était pas bien d'accord sur la durée 😕
Un poil sportif mais super super...un forumeur l'a même fait en 4x4...version vélo.
ça c'est quelque chose .... je suis toujours admiratif des gens que je croise en vélo avec tout leur barda
Que j'ai du réduire, car mon employeur n'était pas bien d'accord sur la durée 😕
Un poil sportif mais super super...un forumeur l'a même fait en 4x4...version vélo.
ça c'est quelque chose .... je suis toujours admiratif des gens que je croise en vélo avec tout leur barda
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
Merci beaucoup pour ces précisions ! 🙂
Vu que j'ai affaire à des experts j'en profite : Que me conseillerez vous pour deux nuits de camping dans le région ?
Sachant que nous viendrons du namaqua et nous poursuivrons au Tankwa.
J'ai regardé un peu dans le routard, le lonely et le petit futé mais il n'y a quasiment pas d'info sur le cederberg... 😐
Vu que j'ai affaire à des experts j'en profite : Que me conseillerez vous pour deux nuits de camping dans le région ?
Sachant que nous viendrons du namaqua et nous poursuivrons au Tankwa.
J'ai regardé un peu dans le routard, le lonely et le petit futé mais il n'y a quasiment pas d'info sur le cederberg... 😐
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Afrique 2017 : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=8661002;#8661002
Islande 2017 : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7818139;#7818139
Afrique 2015 : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7337116;#7337116
Vu que j'ai affaire à des experts j'en profite :
Que me conseillerez vous pour deux nuits de camping dans le région ?
Expert j'ai comme un doute, mais alors en camping là je n'ai plus aucun doute sur ma non expertise
Expert j'ai comme un doute, mais alors en camping là je n'ai plus aucun doute sur ma non expertise
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
😄😄
Alors déja qu'y a t'il à voir/à faire au Cederberg ? Initialement je pensais faire 1 nuit du coté de Clanwilliam et une nuit du coté de Mont Ceder et traverser le Cederberg en diagonale.
Mais tant qu'à faire j'aimerais ne pas faire que de la voiture et j'aimerais bien faire une petite rando de quelques heures. Où puis-je trouver les différents sentiers de randos ? 😊
Alors déja qu'y a t'il à voir/à faire au Cederberg ? Initialement je pensais faire 1 nuit du coté de Clanwilliam et une nuit du coté de Mont Ceder et traverser le Cederberg en diagonale.
Mais tant qu'à faire j'aimerais ne pas faire que de la voiture et j'aimerais bien faire une petite rando de quelques heures. Où puis-je trouver les différents sentiers de randos ? 😊
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Afrique 2017 : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=8661002;#8661002
Islande 2017 : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7818139;#7818139
Afrique 2015 : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7337116;#7337116
Tu as quelques renseignements dans mon dernier carnet de février. Il y a des balades plus longues que celles que j ai faites.
Tout sinon est sur le site officiel : cape nature rubrique cederberg wilderness area.
Il te faudra prendre les entrées et autorisations diverses à Algeria en venant de Citrusdal. Ce parc fait partie de la wild card.
En continuant de mount ceder à tankwa par le chemin le plus court, pas de villes. Il faudra donc prévoir un plein de courses pour mount ceder et le tankwa avant d entrer au cederberg ou bien tu es bon pour un détour...
Il te faudra prendre les entrées et autorisations diverses à Algeria en venant de Citrusdal. Ce parc fait partie de la wild card.
En continuant de mount ceder à tankwa par le chemin le plus court, pas de villes. Il faudra donc prévoir un plein de courses pour mount ceder et le tankwa avant d entrer au cederberg ou bien tu es bon pour un détour...
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Avant tout, il faut savoir que le Kenya est une super destination avec des habitants très sympas et très accueillants, il nous a été facile de voyager sur place car vous trouvez toujours quelqu’un pour vous renseigner et vous aider.
Dans les trucs pratiques à faire absolument, mais vous le lirez ailleurs, prenez une carte SIM Safaricom à l’arrivée à l’aéroport pour pouvoir payer via M-Pesa (recharge possible par CB via l’application wise) et échanger avec vos interlocuteurs par whatsapp. Cela vous simplifiera vraiment la vie (réservation des trains, bus, entrée dans les parcs, etc) et vous évitera de vous promener avec trop d’espèces sur vous ou de devoir chercher des ATM.
A noter aussi, nous sommes partis les trois premières semaines de juillet et ce n’était pas vraiment la saison touristique.
Il faut également savoir que même si vous voyagez en prenant les transports en commun et des hébergements économiques, cela reste une destination chère car les attractions touristiques sont vite onéreuses, avec des prix souvent plus élevés que ce que vous payerez en France. Mais honnêtement, cela en vaut (le plus souvent !) la peine !
Nous avons débuté notre séjour par 5 jours chez l’habitant. Nous avons été accueillis dans une famille vraiment très sympathique à Loitokitok avec une vue sur le Kilimandjaro depuis l’entrée du jardin (à savoir : en juillet, il est souvent dans la brume !)! pour les trouver, cherchez greenfield Homestay à Loitokitok. C’est une super expérience, surtout avec des enfants ! En plus des transferts, ils nous ont organisé plusieurs sorties avec des personnes du village : randonnée à la frontière tanzanienne, balade en moto sur les contreforts du Kilimandjaro, journée de Safari à Amboseli... Vous pouvez y aller les yeux fermés ! Pour le Safari, c’est Anthony qui nous accompagné (il est anglophone), il est originaire du coin et connait le parc comme sa poche. Je vous le recommande vivement !
Anthony, nous a ensuite conduit jusqu’à Isiolo, une ville au Nord qui commence juste à s’ouvrir au tourisme ! Nous voulions voir le marché aux bestiaux du lundi qui permet de croiser plusieurs ethnies qui viennent sur place pour acheter ou vendre chèvres, moutons et vaches selon le lonely planet. Nous avons été un plutôt déçu et ne recommandons pas. Nous avons également visité la forêt de Ngare Ndare avec une cascade magnifique, une balade très intéressante avec un ranger armé (les éléphants sont nombreux) et un pont suspendu qui permet d’admirer la canopée. Attention, il faut prévenir de sa venue au moins trois jours à l’avance pour être certain qu’un ranger sera disponible pour vous accompagner. Nous avons également fait une deuxième journée de Safari à Samburu. C’est très complémentaire d’Amboseli. Çà vaut vraiment le coût !
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Watamu est aussi surnommée Little Italy, car il y a de nombreux touristes italiens là-bas. Lorsque nous y étions (troisième semaine de juillet), ce n’était pas encore la haute saison touristique aussi, les plages n’étaient pas nettoyées. Par contre, on a apprécié la douceur de vivre, la facilité à se déplacer et on recommande le centre de sauvetage des tortues marines. C’est très intéressant (surtout avec des enfants) et vous soutiendrez une belle initiative ! Nous avons été plutôt déçus par le parc marin, mais c’est peut être à cause de la saison : il y avait peu de poissons et des méduses qui ont un peu gâché la sortie snorkeling. La visite de la mangrove est aussi à faire.
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Si vous avez des questions, n’hésitez pas !
En tous cas, nous avons passé un super séjour, très varié avec de belles rencontres et la magie des safaris !
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
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Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!





