Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
46-Day Itinerary in Thailand
by Marien33
Translated into English.
Good evening,
I had written a long message, but it just crashed and everything disappeared again.
I won’t start over. I’ll just ask a quick question to sum it up.
Is two weeks in Nan and its surroundings too much, or is there plenty to explore and see interesting things? Or should I keep Phrae and Loei in my plans? Or the route you mentioned, Thierry?
Thanks
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Two weeks in Nan might feel a bit long if you’re only using it as a base. In that case, one week would be enough—for example, 4 days in town + 3 day trips with a driver.
With two weeks, you could add something like Thung Chang* and explore the area on foot.
In the province, Doi Phu Kha National Park, which I don’t know personally, is apparently worth seeing.
*Accessible from Nan by minivan, a few resorts nearby for accommodation, but nothing in town if the Siam Garden Bungalow hasn’t reopened.
Keeping Phrae and Loei is an option, but if I understand correctly, Loei would be your only detour into Isan for roughly 3-4 days? I don’t think such a short trip is worth the detour.
Doing route 211 in one week (if I understood you right) is possible, but it’ll only be interesting if you plan small stops along the way—though it seems you’re not too keen on that... You won’t be able to connect Nan and route 211 (to Chiang Khan or Pak Chom) by public transport in one day. You’ll need an overnight stop somewhere (Phitsanulok or Loei) due to timing and connections. That leaves you with 5 nights to stop in at least 2 villages, plus one last night on a bus or train to Bangkok.
*Accessible from Nan by minivan, a few resorts nearby for accommodation, but nothing in town if the Siam Garden Bungalow hasn’t reopened.
Keeping Phrae and Loei is an option, but if I understand correctly, Loei would be your only detour into Isan for roughly 3-4 days? I don’t think such a short trip is worth the detour.
Doing route 211 in one week (if I understood you right) is possible, but it’ll only be interesting if you plan small stops along the way—though it seems you’re not too keen on that... You won’t be able to connect Nan and route 211 (to Chiang Khan or Pak Chom) by public transport in one day. You’ll need an overnight stop somewhere (Phitsanulok or Loei) due to timing and connections. That leaves you with 5 nights to stop in at least 2 villages, plus one last night on a bus or train to Bangkok.
If you're independent with a car or scooter, it makes sense to stay 4 to 5 days in Nan—any longer isn’t really worth it. Otherwise, you’ll be relying on taxis all the time, or even bikes (though you’ll miss a lot).
Personally, I’d spend more time in Chiang Rai province—a mix of the city itself and chilling in Chiang Khong. There’s way more to see than in Nan
Personally, I’d spend more time in Chiang Rai province—a mix of the city itself and chilling in Chiang Khong. There’s way more to see than in Nan
If you're independent with a car or scooter, it makes sense to stay 4 to 5 days in Nan—any longer isn’t really worth it.
Otherwise, you’ll be relying on taxis all the time, or even biking (though you’ll miss a lot).
Personally, I’d spend more time in Chiang Rai Province—a mix of the city itself and chilling in Chiang Khong. There’s way more to see than in Nan.
Thanks so much for your input! The issue with this kind of question is that you get *everything and its opposite* in response. It’s really hard to decide when the answers aren’t detailed or well-explained.
Personally, I’d spend more time in Chiang Rai Province—a mix of the city itself and chilling in Chiang Khong. There’s way more to see than in Nan.
Thanks so much for your input! The issue with this kind of question is that you get *everything and its opposite* in response. It’s really hard to decide when the answers aren’t detailed or well-explained.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
But because everyone has different tastes and expectations.
Plus, the same person might see things differently depending on whether they have ten days or two months of vacation.
The most remarkable thing is how some people have this fascinating ability to give completely wrong advice—something you only really understand once you're there.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
2 weeks in Nan might feel a bit long if you’re only using it as a base. In that case, one week would be enough—for example, 4 days in town + 3 day trips with a driver.
Keeping Phrae and Loei is fine, but if I understand correctly, Loei would be your only stop in Isan for roughly 3-4 days? I don’t think such a detour is worth it for such a short time.
New update—just finalized this! Latest version, and I *really* hope this is the last one.
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–26: PHRAE (3 days/4 nights) Feb 27–Mar 2: LAMPANG (3 days/4 nights) Mar 3–4: PHIMAI (1 day/2 nights) Mar 5: Phimai → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Alternative option: I skip Phimai and redistribute those two nights by adding one night each to Phrae and Lampang. So:
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–27: PHRAE (4 days/5 nights) Feb 28–Mar 4: LAMPANG (4 days/5 nights) Mar 5: Lampang → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Final solution: The first option but skipping Phimai and heading to Bangkok on Mar 3 to spend the last two days chilling (shopping?) in Bangkok to avoid departure stress.
Keeping Phrae and Loei is fine, but if I understand correctly, Loei would be your only stop in Isan for roughly 3-4 days? I don’t think such a detour is worth it for such a short time.
New update—just finalized this! Latest version, and I *really* hope this is the last one.
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–26: PHRAE (3 days/4 nights) Feb 27–Mar 2: LAMPANG (3 days/4 nights) Mar 3–4: PHIMAI (1 day/2 nights) Mar 5: Phimai → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Alternative option: I skip Phimai and redistribute those two nights by adding one night each to Phrae and Lampang. So:
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–27: PHRAE (4 days/5 nights) Feb 28–Mar 4: LAMPANG (4 days/5 nights) Mar 5: Lampang → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Final solution: The first option but skipping Phimai and heading to Bangkok on Mar 3 to spend the last two days chilling (shopping?) in Bangkok to avoid departure stress.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
But here you’ve only listed a 3-week itinerary...?
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
At least he’s not grilling us on the classic BKK - Lopburi - Sukhothai - Chiang Mai - Golden Triangle route 😉
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
But you only listed a 3-week itinerary here...?
Yeah, so? The rest is already sorted—I just needed the end of the trip.
Yeah, so? The rest is already sorted—I just needed the end of the trip.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Two weeks in Nan might feel a bit long if you're only using it as a base. In that case, one week would be enough—for example, 4 days in town + 3 day trips with a driver.
Keeping Phrae and Loei is fine, but if I understand correctly, Loei would be your only detour into Isan for roughly 3-4 days? I don’t think such a short trip is worth the detour.
New update—just finalized! Here’s the latest version, and I hope it’s the last one.
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–26: PHRAE (3 days/4 nights) Feb 27–Mar 2: LAMPANG (3 days/4 nights) Mar 3–4: PHIMAI (1 day/2 nights) Mar 5: Phimai → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Another option: I skip Phimai and add those two nights to Phrae and Lampang instead. That’d look like:
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–27: PHRAE (4 days/5 nights) Feb 28–Mar 4: LAMPANG (4 days/5 nights) Mar 5: Lampang → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Final solution: Stick with the first option but skip Phimai and head straight to Bangkok on Mar 3. I’d spend the last two days chilling (shopping?) in Bangkok to avoid departure stress.
What’s left to figure out is how to get between these stops using public transport: Chiang Mai → Nan Nan → Phrae Phrae → Lampang Lampang → Phimai *or* Lampang → Bangkok
Keeping Phrae and Loei is fine, but if I understand correctly, Loei would be your only detour into Isan for roughly 3-4 days? I don’t think such a short trip is worth the detour.
New update—just finalized! Here’s the latest version, and I hope it’s the last one.
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–26: PHRAE (3 days/4 nights) Feb 27–Mar 2: LAMPANG (3 days/4 nights) Mar 3–4: PHIMAI (1 day/2 nights) Mar 5: Phimai → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Another option: I skip Phimai and add those two nights to Phrae and Lampang instead. That’d look like:
Feb 17–22: NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–27: PHRAE (4 days/5 nights) Feb 28–Mar 4: LAMPANG (4 days/5 nights) Mar 5: Lampang → Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) Mar 6: DEPARTURE
Final solution: Stick with the first option but skip Phimai and head straight to Bangkok on Mar 3. I’d spend the last two days chilling (shopping?) in Bangkok to avoid departure stress.
What’s left to figure out is how to get between these stops using public transport: Chiang Mai → Nan Nan → Phrae Phrae → Lampang Lampang → Phimai *or* Lampang → Bangkok
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
...
The problem with this kind of request is that you get absolutely everything and its opposite in response.
Hi there,
That’s exactly why I kinda gave up on "the case"—too much info kills the info, to the point where some posts get completely lost in the overload.
You’d decided to take your time, just like you said you liked to do, and now here you are chasing after it again.
But if you’re still able to sleep, that’s great.
You’re looking for perfection you’ll never find, at least I think so, but if you find happiness with it, then enjoy!!!
Best,
Partirdeloin
Hi there,
That’s exactly why I kinda gave up on "the case"—too much info kills the info, to the point where some posts get completely lost in the overload.
You’d decided to take your time, just like you said you liked to do, and now here you are chasing after it again.
But if you’re still able to sleep, that’s great.
You’re looking for perfection you’ll never find, at least I think so, but if you find happiness with it, then enjoy!!!
Best,
Partirdeloin
The most remarkable thing is how some people have a fascinating ability to give completely wrong advice, which you only realize once you're there.
Hi,
And you're still being kind—some don’t hesitate to shoot down others' ideas just because they don’t like them, or even claim them as their own if they weren’t the "first to mention it"...
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
Hi,
And you're still being kind—some don’t hesitate to shoot down others' ideas just because they don’t like them, or even claim them as their own if they weren’t the "first to mention it"...
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
Get help from an AI app
I get that the best ones are paid, but hey, it’s not a huge yearly cost
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I get that the best ones are paid, but hey, it’s not a huge yearly cost
😏 😏 😏
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
New, it just came out!
Latest version and I’d really like this to be the last one.
Feb 17–22 NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–26 PHRAE (3 days/4 nights) Feb 27–Mar 2 LAMPANG (3 days/4 nights) Mar 3–4 PHIMAI (1 day/2 nights) Mar 5 Phimai → Bangkok Overnight in Bangkok Mar 6 DEPART
-In my previous reply, I didn’t think it was wise to detour to Isan just for 3–4 nights. Yet today you’ve included Phimai, which is even farther than Loei (coming from the north), and for even less time... I think you’d be better off saving Isan for your next trip (or the third or fourth...) to spend a more serious amount of time there—like 3–4–5 weeks. -The northern part will force you to backtrack. To minimize that, it’d be better to do it in the order Lampang-Nan-Phrae.
Another option: I skip Phimai and add the two nights by extending Phrae and Lampang by one night each. So:
Feb 17–22 NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–27 PHRAE (4 days/5 nights) Feb 28–Mar 4 LAMPANG (4 days/5 nights) Mar 5 Lampang → Bangkok Overnight in Bangkok Mar 6 DEPART
So yes, skip Phimai. But 5 nights in Phrae and 5 in Lampang? Ouch!... Here’s what I’d do: Nan stays as is. Phimai: scrapped! Lampang and Phrae get 3 nights each. Chiang Mai: 10 nights (which is already a lot—2.5 times longer than what most travelers do) instead of 15. With the nice little stash of 9 nights now (but temporarily!) unassigned, I’d spend 5–4 in Chiang Rai* and 4–5 in Mae Salong**. (Suggestion inspired by your initial post:
Chiang Mai → Chiang Rai CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton – Chiang Saen – Doi Tung – Chiang Khong – Doi Ang Khang PHU chi Fah, etc..
) * Chiang Rai: The most interesting spots are outside the city—the White Temple, the Blue Temple, and farther out, the Doi Tung Royal Villa and Garden (plan to rent a car for half a day), Chiang Saen, the vibe at the Mae Sai border crossing...
**Mae Salong (accessible by bus + songthaew; I can explain how if needed): A little off-the-beaten-path town and a great base for day or half-day hikes to nearby ethnic villages.
What’s left to check is the feasibility of public transport between my different stopovers: Chiang Mai → Nan Nan → Phrae Phrae → Lampang Lampang → Phimai or Lampang → Bangkok
I’ll get back to you on that in a bit...
Feb 17–22 NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–26 PHRAE (3 days/4 nights) Feb 27–Mar 2 LAMPANG (3 days/4 nights) Mar 3–4 PHIMAI (1 day/2 nights) Mar 5 Phimai → Bangkok Overnight in Bangkok Mar 6 DEPART
-In my previous reply, I didn’t think it was wise to detour to Isan just for 3–4 nights. Yet today you’ve included Phimai, which is even farther than Loei (coming from the north), and for even less time... I think you’d be better off saving Isan for your next trip (or the third or fourth...) to spend a more serious amount of time there—like 3–4–5 weeks. -The northern part will force you to backtrack. To minimize that, it’d be better to do it in the order Lampang-Nan-Phrae.
Another option: I skip Phimai and add the two nights by extending Phrae and Lampang by one night each. So:
Feb 17–22 NAN (5 days/6 nights) Feb 23–27 PHRAE (4 days/5 nights) Feb 28–Mar 4 LAMPANG (4 days/5 nights) Mar 5 Lampang → Bangkok Overnight in Bangkok Mar 6 DEPART
So yes, skip Phimai. But 5 nights in Phrae and 5 in Lampang? Ouch!... Here’s what I’d do: Nan stays as is. Phimai: scrapped! Lampang and Phrae get 3 nights each. Chiang Mai: 10 nights (which is already a lot—2.5 times longer than what most travelers do) instead of 15. With the nice little stash of 9 nights now (but temporarily!) unassigned, I’d spend 5–4 in Chiang Rai* and 4–5 in Mae Salong**. (Suggestion inspired by your initial post:
Chiang Mai → Chiang Rai CHIANG RAI (7 days/8 nights): Fang – Tha Ton – Chiang Saen – Doi Tung – Chiang Khong – Doi Ang Khang PHU chi Fah, etc..
) * Chiang Rai: The most interesting spots are outside the city—the White Temple, the Blue Temple, and farther out, the Doi Tung Royal Villa and Garden (plan to rent a car for half a day), Chiang Saen, the vibe at the Mae Sai border crossing...
**Mae Salong (accessible by bus + songthaew; I can explain how if needed): A little off-the-beaten-path town and a great base for day or half-day hikes to nearby ethnic villages.
What’s left to check is the feasibility of public transport between my different stopovers: Chiang Mai → Nan Nan → Phrae Phrae → Lampang Lampang → Phimai or Lampang → Bangkok
I’ll get back to you on that in a bit...
A huge thank you to everyone who gave me concrete answers. You’ve helped me way more than you might think in building my own travel plan.
Now I know where I’m going.
When I first asked my questions, I had no idea at all.
I’m sorry if I surprise you, but after so many years, I know I’m a bit of an oddball who doesn’t do things like everyone else. Especially as a traveler. That might throw some people off.
I want to sincerely thank you again. You’ve shed light for me when I was in total darkness. Now I’ll move forward at my own pace, following my tastes and desires, and if needed, I’ll make changes along the way. I might cut something here to add something there. I’ll shorten or extend certain stops if I feel it’s the right thing to do.
I’ll reply to each of you individually tomorrow. THANKS! !
I want to sincerely thank you again. You’ve shed light for me when I was in total darkness. Now I’ll move forward at my own pace, following my tastes and desires, and if needed, I’ll make changes along the way. I might cut something here to add something there. I’ll shorten or extend certain stops if I feel it’s the right thing to do.
I’ll reply to each of you individually tomorrow. THANKS! !
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Hello,
And you're still being kind—some don’t even hesitate to torpedo others’ ideas if they don’t like them, or even claim them as their own if they weren’t the "first to mention it"...
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
You little rascal! 😉
And you're still being kind—some don’t even hesitate to torpedo others’ ideas if they don’t like them, or even claim them as their own if they weren’t the "first to mention it"...
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
You little rascal! 😉
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
When you get a chance, share your full itinerary in one go so we can start fresh with something clear.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
You little rascal!! 😉
Darn!!! You noticed... I was using all my ingenuity to make sure it didn’t show... I’m disappointed, really disappointed... 😎😛
Darn!!! You noticed... I was using all my ingenuity to make sure it didn’t show... I’m disappointed, really disappointed... 😎😛
I’m sorry if I surprise you
It takes a lot more than that to surprise me...
but after so many years, I know I’m a bit of a weirdo who doesn’t do things like everyone else. Especially as a traveler. It can throw some people off.
Well, now there are two of us—imagine, I’m probably the only Earthling (who doesn’t live in India) who’s been to Agra and *didn’t* visit the Taj Mahal.
Truth is, I’m just not interested in all the monuments the masses feel *compelled* to immortalize—just so they can say over the coffee machine, "I was there." And you’ve already seen every angle of them online and on social media, down to the tiniest detail, which kills all the magic of discovery.
Even what you’re about to see in Bangkok—I haven’t set foot there in 10 years.
I once decided to visit that island someone highly recommended in another thread, just because I was passing through for other reasons. Total letdown. And the thought of people spending hours in transit for *that* when, often just a few hundred meters from where they’re staying, there’s something surprising, unusual, or even unique… it leaves me baffled sometimes.
But hey, if it makes their day, more power to them.
Now I’ll just go at my own pace, following my tastes and whims
In my book, the best way to travel…
Partirdeloin
It takes a lot more than that to surprise me...
but after so many years, I know I’m a bit of a weirdo who doesn’t do things like everyone else. Especially as a traveler. It can throw some people off.
Well, now there are two of us—imagine, I’m probably the only Earthling (who doesn’t live in India) who’s been to Agra and *didn’t* visit the Taj Mahal.
Truth is, I’m just not interested in all the monuments the masses feel *compelled* to immortalize—just so they can say over the coffee machine, "I was there." And you’ve already seen every angle of them online and on social media, down to the tiniest detail, which kills all the magic of discovery.
Even what you’re about to see in Bangkok—I haven’t set foot there in 10 years.
I once decided to visit that island someone highly recommended in another thread, just because I was passing through for other reasons. Total letdown. And the thought of people spending hours in transit for *that* when, often just a few hundred meters from where they’re staying, there’s something surprising, unusual, or even unique… it leaves me baffled sometimes.
But hey, if it makes their day, more power to them.
Now I’ll just go at my own pace, following my tastes and whims
In my book, the best way to travel…
Partirdeloin
Indeed, I’m absolutely not interested in all the monuments that the masses feel compelled to immortalize just to say at the coffee machine, among other things, "I was there." And which you find, on the internet and other social networks, photographed from every possible angle, stripping away all the charm of discovery.
I find this statement quite pretentious. Are you so special that you place yourself outside of "the masses"? And are the members of this same "mass" just contemptible people gathered around the infamous coffee machine, sharing their contemptible visits? And since when do photos seen "from every angle" diminish the charm of a place? 🤪 It’s your choice to avoid the world’s beauties under such a strange pretext, but don’t look down on those who are different. Isn’t the main quality of a traveler tolerance and open-mindedness?
I find this statement quite pretentious. Are you so special that you place yourself outside of "the masses"? And are the members of this same "mass" just contemptible people gathered around the infamous coffee machine, sharing their contemptible visits? And since when do photos seen "from every angle" diminish the charm of a place? 🤪 It’s your choice to avoid the world’s beauties under such a strange pretext, but don’t look down on those who are different. Isn’t the main quality of a traveler tolerance and open-mindedness?
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
Hello,
Out of context, you can make words say whatever you want.
For my part, I was responding to someone who apologized for being "a bit of an oddball who doesn’t do things like everyone else."
After that, I’ll let you draw whatever conclusions help you sleep better...
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
Out of context, you can make words say whatever you want.
For my part, I was responding to someone who apologized for being "a bit of an oddball who doesn’t do things like everyone else."
After that, I’ll let you draw whatever conclusions help you sleep better...
Best regards,
Partirdeloin
So there we are, two of us—imagine, I’m probably the only Earthling (who doesn’t live in India) who’s been to Agra and *hasn’t* visited the Taj Mahal.
Truth is, I’m just not interested in all the monuments the masses feel they *have* to immortalize just to say at the coffee machine, "I was there." And you find photos of them online and on social media—every angle, every detail—so there’s no charm left in discovering them for yourself.
Even what you’re about to see in Bangkok—I’ve never set foot there in 10 years.
Now *that’s* something I can relate to! I’ve sometimes been disappointed by "mythical" places and found real joy off the beaten path. It reminds me of all those people swarming in front of the Mona Lisa, which leaves the amazing paintings next to it blissfully quiet to enjoy.
Mass tourism’s reheated dishes? Not my thing either. Sometimes you’ve seen so much in the teaser that you don’t even want to watch the movie anymore. Just saying, I totally get the opposite point of view—like how the Eiffel Tower affects me every time.
Even what you’re about to see in Bangkok—in 10 years, I’ve never set foot there.
One day, I wanted to visit the island everyone raved about in another thread because I was passing through for other reasons. It was a huge letdown, and thinking about people spending hours in transit for *that*—when often just a few hundred meters from where they’re staying, there’s something surprising, unusual, or even unique—sometimes leaves me baffled...
But hey, if it makes their day, more power to them...
Partirdeloin
This place is one of many mentioned on VF that makes me wonder why they’re such a big deal (like some hotels or guesthouses). Most of the time, it’s not a great tip. Ah, the "good taste" of the masses.
Truth is, I’m just not interested in all the monuments the masses feel they *have* to immortalize just to say at the coffee machine, "I was there." And you find photos of them online and on social media—every angle, every detail—so there’s no charm left in discovering them for yourself.
Even what you’re about to see in Bangkok—I’ve never set foot there in 10 years.
Now *that’s* something I can relate to! I’ve sometimes been disappointed by "mythical" places and found real joy off the beaten path. It reminds me of all those people swarming in front of the Mona Lisa, which leaves the amazing paintings next to it blissfully quiet to enjoy.
Mass tourism’s reheated dishes? Not my thing either. Sometimes you’ve seen so much in the teaser that you don’t even want to watch the movie anymore. Just saying, I totally get the opposite point of view—like how the Eiffel Tower affects me every time.
Even what you’re about to see in Bangkok—in 10 years, I’ve never set foot there.
One day, I wanted to visit the island everyone raved about in another thread because I was passing through for other reasons. It was a huge letdown, and thinking about people spending hours in transit for *that*—when often just a few hundred meters from where they’re staying, there’s something surprising, unusual, or even unique—sometimes leaves me baffled...
But hey, if it makes their day, more power to them...
Partirdeloin
This place is one of many mentioned on VF that makes me wonder why they’re such a big deal (like some hotels or guesthouses). Most of the time, it’s not a great tip. Ah, the "good taste" of the masses.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Alright, I’ll just bring my own tea. It’s not heavy. The essential thing is the kettle.
Hi there, I’m the same way, but with coffee—I need my coffee as soon as I open my eyes. Since a kettle is too bulky to carry, I use what’s called a *thermo-plunger* (immersion heater). I bought one in Bangkok for 200 baht ("electro thermal tube"), and I boil water in a metal cup. Be careful—the metal container gets burning hot, so don’t grab it with your bare hands. I’ve been doing this for years. *Note:* It still has a flat Thai plug. They do exist in France, but they’re bulkier and come with a 3-prong French plug. If you search "thermoplongeur" on Google, you’ll find options at Darty or Amazon. https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/petit_electromenager/petit_dejeuner-bouilloire_theiere/thermoplongeur/riviera_et_bar_tpl_350.html
Hi there, I’m the same way, but with coffee—I need my coffee as soon as I open my eyes. Since a kettle is too bulky to carry, I use what’s called a *thermo-plunger* (immersion heater). I bought one in Bangkok for 200 baht ("electro thermal tube"), and I boil water in a metal cup. Be careful—the metal container gets burning hot, so don’t grab it with your bare hands. I’ve been doing this for years. *Note:* It still has a flat Thai plug. They do exist in France, but they’re bulkier and come with a 3-prong French plug. If you search "thermoplongeur" on Google, you’ll find options at Darty or Amazon. https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/petit_electromenager/petit_dejeuner-bouilloire_theiere/thermoplongeur/riviera_et_bar_tpl_350.html
When you get a chance, post your full itinerary in one go so we can start fresh with something clear.
Thanks Joël, I personally don’t think there’s any need to "start fresh" with anything, and for me, apart from the transport 😉, everything is clear. You’ve helped me out so much, especially with Bangkok and the Chiang Mai area, and I can’t thank you enough.
Thanks Joël, I personally don’t think there’s any need to "start fresh" with anything, and for me, apart from the transport 😉, everything is clear. You’ve helped me out so much, especially with Bangkok and the Chiang Mai area, and I can’t thank you enough.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
I’m probably the only Earthling (who doesn’t live in India) who’s been to Agra and didn’t visit the Taj Mahal.
Not quite the only one... I went there, but I hated the vibe, the place, and even... the monument, which looks like a giant cream puff to me and, in my eyes, doesn’t justify all the hype from the entire planet.
Indeed, I’m absolutely not interested in all the monuments that the masses feel compelled to immortalize just to say over the coffee machine, "I was there."
Me neither! (Sorry, Kate)
One day, I wanted to visit the island that was highly recommended in another thread because I was passing through for other reasons—it was a huge letdown. And thinking that people spend hours traveling for that, when often just a few hundred meters from where they live, there’s something surprising, unusual, or even unique... It sometimes leaves me skeptical...
The photos I’ve seen of it make me really want to go—they match the kind of tourist-free spots I love. But if, as Joël mentions later, every traveler rushes there, then that changes everything.
Not quite the only one... I went there, but I hated the vibe, the place, and even... the monument, which looks like a giant cream puff to me and, in my eyes, doesn’t justify all the hype from the entire planet.
Indeed, I’m absolutely not interested in all the monuments that the masses feel compelled to immortalize just to say over the coffee machine, "I was there."
Me neither! (Sorry, Kate)
One day, I wanted to visit the island that was highly recommended in another thread because I was passing through for other reasons—it was a huge letdown. And thinking that people spend hours traveling for that, when often just a few hundred meters from where they live, there’s something surprising, unusual, or even unique... It sometimes leaves me skeptical...
The photos I’ve seen of it make me really want to go—they match the kind of tourist-free spots I love. But if, as Joël mentions later, every traveler rushes there, then that changes everything.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
All good, I'll just bring my own tea. It's not heavy. The essential thing is the kettle.
Hello! I'm the same, but when it comes to coffee—I need my coffee as soon as I open my eyes. Since a kettle is too bulky to carry, I use what’s called a "thermo plunger" (immersion heater). I bought one in Bangkok for 200 baht ("electro thermal tube"), and I boil water in a metal cup. Be careful—the metal container gets burning hot, so don’t grab it with your bare hands. I’ve been doing this for years. Note: mine still has a flat Thai plug. They also exist in France, but they’re bulkier and have a 3-prong French plug. If you search "thermoplongeur" on Google, you’ll find options at Darty or Amazon. https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/petit_electromenager/petit_dejeuner-bouilloire_theiere/thermoplongeur/riviera_et_bar_tpl_350.html
Thanks so much! I’ve been thinking about this for my travels for a while, but I already lug around so many electrical and electronic gadgets that I haven’t done it yet. For this trip, I’ve made sure there’s a kettle in the room at all the accommodations I’ve booked.
Hello! I'm the same, but when it comes to coffee—I need my coffee as soon as I open my eyes. Since a kettle is too bulky to carry, I use what’s called a "thermo plunger" (immersion heater). I bought one in Bangkok for 200 baht ("electro thermal tube"), and I boil water in a metal cup. Be careful—the metal container gets burning hot, so don’t grab it with your bare hands. I’ve been doing this for years. Note: mine still has a flat Thai plug. They also exist in France, but they’re bulkier and have a 3-prong French plug. If you search "thermoplongeur" on Google, you’ll find options at Darty or Amazon. https://www.darty.com/nav/achat/petit_electromenager/petit_dejeuner-bouilloire_theiere/thermoplongeur/riviera_et_bar_tpl_350.html
Thanks so much! I’ve been thinking about this for my travels for a while, but I already lug around so many electrical and electronic gadgets that I haven’t done it yet. For this trip, I’ve made sure there’s a kettle in the room at all the accommodations I’ve booked.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
What remains to be seen is the possibility of connections between my different stopover cities using public transport
(...)
- 1 week in Bangkok
- 4 nights in Kanchanaburi
- 3 nights in Ayutthaya
- 2 weeks in the Chiang Mai area
- 4 nights in Lampang
- 6 nights in Nan
- 4 nights in Phrae
- Last 4 days in Bangkok
For the Bkk-Kan-Ayutthaya-Bkk-Chiang Mai part, you already have the explanations. For the Chiang Mai area, it's impossible to answer without more details about your visits, but you can always ask us from there once you know more about your plans for exploring the area.
-Chiang Mai-Lampang: trains or very frequent buses. Lampang-Nan: about half a dozen a/c buses per day. They come from Chiang Mai and also stop in Phrae*. Another a/c1 bus from the same company takes the Chiang Mai-Nan route via a different itinerary passing through Phayao. Nan-Phrae: numerous minivans and buses. Phrae-Bangkok: several a/c buses during the day and overnight. Another possible option: reach Den Chai station in 45 minutes by songthaew to catch a train, like the morning Express DRC or a night train. If taking a night train, the Rapid from Den Chai is the only one that starts there—it arrives in Bangkok at 4:30 AM (plus delays) and doesn’t have first-class sleeper berths. Apart from this one, the other trains come from Chiang Mai. In that case, I’d advise booking early (I trust you’ll do that...) because they’re also used by countless organized tours after their ultra-quick "visit" of the North.
Just in case: Chiang Rai-Nan: only one a/c2 bus per day, leaving around 9 AM for a 5.5-hour trip. For the second half of the journey, it follows the Lao border through some of the most beautiful mountain scenery I’ve seen in the country. Plan B: take one of the many buses or minivans to Phayao, where 2 buses per day (1 a/c1 and 1 ordinary) leave for Nan. Chiang Rai-Phrae: minivans or buses.
* Phrae: pronounced "prêê" with a rolled ‘r,’ or even "plêê."
The photos I’ve received make me really want to go and match the kind of tourist-free places I love. But if, as Joël says later, every traveler rushes there, then that changes things.
Don’t worry—it’s only crowded, mostly with Thai people, on weekends in the village. As soon as you leave it, you’ll be on your own. During the week, you’ll be alone everywhere.
For the Bkk-Kan-Ayutthaya-Bkk-Chiang Mai part, you already have the explanations. For the Chiang Mai area, it's impossible to answer without more details about your visits, but you can always ask us from there once you know more about your plans for exploring the area.
-Chiang Mai-Lampang: trains or very frequent buses. Lampang-Nan: about half a dozen a/c buses per day. They come from Chiang Mai and also stop in Phrae*. Another a/c1 bus from the same company takes the Chiang Mai-Nan route via a different itinerary passing through Phayao. Nan-Phrae: numerous minivans and buses. Phrae-Bangkok: several a/c buses during the day and overnight. Another possible option: reach Den Chai station in 45 minutes by songthaew to catch a train, like the morning Express DRC or a night train. If taking a night train, the Rapid from Den Chai is the only one that starts there—it arrives in Bangkok at 4:30 AM (plus delays) and doesn’t have first-class sleeper berths. Apart from this one, the other trains come from Chiang Mai. In that case, I’d advise booking early (I trust you’ll do that...) because they’re also used by countless organized tours after their ultra-quick "visit" of the North.
Just in case: Chiang Rai-Nan: only one a/c2 bus per day, leaving around 9 AM for a 5.5-hour trip. For the second half of the journey, it follows the Lao border through some of the most beautiful mountain scenery I’ve seen in the country. Plan B: take one of the many buses or minivans to Phayao, where 2 buses per day (1 a/c1 and 1 ordinary) leave for Nan. Chiang Rai-Phrae: minivans or buses.
* Phrae: pronounced "prêê" with a rolled ‘r,’ or even "plêê."
The photos I’ve received make me really want to go and match the kind of tourist-free places I love. But if, as Joël says later, every traveler rushes there, then that changes things.
Don’t worry—it’s only crowded, mostly with Thai people, on weekends in the village. As soon as you leave it, you’ll be on your own. During the week, you’ll be alone everywhere.
Out of context, you can make words say whatever you want.
For my part, I was responding to someone who apologized for being "a weird guy who doesn’t do things like everyone else."
After that, I’ll let you make all the wild interpretations that help you sleep better...
Without going too far, you who don’t consider yourselves lacking in intelligence—something quite common among those who share their favorite spots here—would you agree that your response is not only shallow but also dishonest? No need to wish me a good night, I’ve got my herbal tea.
Without going too far, you who don’t consider yourselves lacking in intelligence—something quite common among those who share their favorite spots here—would you agree that your response is not only shallow but also dishonest? No need to wish me a good night, I’ve got my herbal tea.
At least he was inspired enough not to restart the machine? 😉
Let’s give him credit—on this thread, he did his part to inform future travelers.
To me, PDL’s and Kate’s opinions are two sides of the same reality, and some of my visits would make me lean toward one or the other at different times. A discussion that would’ve fit perfectly in the Travelers’ Reflections section.
Let’s give him credit—on this thread, he did his part to inform future travelers.
To me, PDL’s and Kate’s opinions are two sides of the same reality, and some of my visits would make me lean toward one or the other at different times. A discussion that would’ve fit perfectly in the Travelers’ Reflections section.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Some of my visits made me lean sometimes toward one opinion, sometimes toward the other.
Nothing really original, Jojo :/
Nothing really original, Jojo :/
Mes photos sur Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums
"Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
Bangkok Art Biennale 2024
January – 25 February 2025.
11 sites, 76 artists, 240 artworks at Bangkok.
International art festival on the theme "Feeding Gaia," the biennale showcases over 200 exceptional contemporary artworks by 76 leading artists from 39 countries, displayed across 11 iconic venues in Bangkok.
Flora Festival 2024 in Chiang Mai January to February 2025, from 08:00 to 18:00. Royal Park Rajapruek, Chiang Mai.
Flora Festival 2024 in Chiang Mai January to February 2025, from 08:00 to 18:00. Royal Park Rajapruek, Chiang Mai.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
Bangkok Art Biennale 2024
You mean 2025, I assume, given the dates mentioned below.
January – 25 February 2025. 11 sites, 76 artists, 240 artworks at Bangkok. An international art festival on the theme “Nourishing Gaia,” the biennale features over 200 exceptional contemporary artworks by 76 leading artists from 39 countries, displayed across 11 iconic venues in Bangkok.
That’s awesome info! Thanks so much, Joël!
Flora Festival 2024 in Chiang Mai January to February 2025, from 08:00 to 18:00. Royal Park Rajapruek, Chiang Mai.
And this is another fabulous announcement! Thanks! It’s weird I haven’t seen it anywhere, even though I’ve been researching online for ages.
You mean 2025, I assume, given the dates mentioned below.
January – 25 February 2025. 11 sites, 76 artists, 240 artworks at Bangkok. An international art festival on the theme “Nourishing Gaia,” the biennale features over 200 exceptional contemporary artworks by 76 leading artists from 39 countries, displayed across 11 iconic venues in Bangkok.
That’s awesome info! Thanks so much, Joël!
Flora Festival 2024 in Chiang Mai January to February 2025, from 08:00 to 18:00. Royal Park Rajapruek, Chiang Mai.
And this is another fabulous announcement! Thanks! It’s weird I haven’t seen it anywhere, even though I’ve been researching online for ages.
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
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https://youpic.com/marien
Hi Joël,
I’m not replying to a specific message of yours here, but rather to a question you’ve asked me before on the public forum, as well as personally via email or WhatsApp. Specifically, whether I’d write a travel journal after my trip to Thailand. I’m sorry I haven’t answered yet. The truth is, I honestly don’t know—I haven’t even left yet.
I can’t say no in advance without knowing how I’ll feel about it when I get back.
But I can’t say yes either, pretty much for the same reason.
You seem worried that I won’t share my trip...
But one thing’s for sure: if I have things to share, I’ll do it with pleasure.
That said, it’ll most likely be a personal account of my joys and sorrows, my excitement and disappointments, my emotions, and my discoveries—not a list of hotel or restaurant addresses. I’m not going to step in where others do it better than me.
What I’ve loved in your travel journals is when you talk about your experiences—like the emotion you felt when you saw your wife collapsed on the steps, bleeding, the camera flying, the critter that really messed up your calf, the hospital visit, your encounters (like that amazing Thai woman who set up an incredible itinerary with a driver and everything), or what you ate in restaurants rather than just listing prices. I laughed so much reading about your restaurant stories. I was chuckling to myself: *What foodies, you two...*
In short, what I love reading in a travel journal is real, lived, personal stories—not just numbers and addresses. There are guides and dedicated forum threads for that.
See you soon...
Je rencontrai sur mon chemin tant de difficultés
Qu’elles furent toutes surmontées
MIRZA GHALIB poète urdu (1796 -1869)
https://www.telling-india-pictures.com
https://youpic.com/marien
Hi everyone,
I really liked Bangkok despite everything I’d read here and elsewhere, and despite what I’d been told about it. I didn’t regret sticking to my original plan to stay there for two weeks. Except for the fiasco of the so-called Chinese New Year dragon dance!!!
I’ll expand on this if I write a travel journal...
But...
The complete opposite for Chiang Mai...
I’ve been here for two days, and if Booking.com hadn’t already charged my card for my 20-night stay, I’d be thinking of leaving as soon as possible.
It’s "Tourist City." Where are the Thais? Apart from the shopkeepers, guides, drivers, and others who live off tourism? All you see everywhere, everywhere, everywhere are tourists...
You have to go out at 6:30 or 7 AM if you want to take photos and you’re not the type to just take selfies in front of a temple, statue, or landscape...
I’m wondering where I can go to see the real life of Chiang Mai...
The temples I’ve seen so far are stunning, but I don’t want to risk overdosing on them, same with the markets. Whether they’re day or night markets, it’s always the same...
I saved money during my stay in Bangkok, so I think I have enough baht to rent a vehicle and take day trips (or even 2-day trips with one night elsewhere) in the surrounding area (within a 50 to 70 km radius) to places without (too many) tourists...
I’m open to any suggestions...
Thanks
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For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
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Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
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Hi there,
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Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Hi there,
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Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
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Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
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Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise