Bornéo, Sabah, nasiques, probocis, semnopithèques, singes et Labuk Bay
by Renaudsechet
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Les informations que vous donnez sont très intéressantes et précises, à tel point que j’espérais un blog où tout serait compilé. A tout hasard j’ai essayé le raccourci de sur votre profil : http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/renaudsechet. Mais il est invalide, dommage, me voilà condamner à relire les 5 pages de cette discussion et copier collée pour imprimer le guide Renaud Sechet sur Bornéo 😉 avant mon dépard en septembre.
Merci
Guy
Je ne crois pas que votre message s’adresse à moi mais bon 🙂. J’ai regardé votre petite (et très jolie vidéo) sur Vimeo. Pourriez vous me dire où avez-vous trouvé les plus jolies fonds marins pour le snorkeling ?
Guy
Oups je n'ai pas répondu à la bonne personne.
Merci pour la vidéo. Malheureusement tous mes plans sous-marins sont flous. J'ai eu l'occasion de pratiquer le snorkeling sur Mamutik Island ainsi qu'aux Perhentians. J'ai préféré la flore de Mamutik mais la faune aux Perhentians.
Merci pour la vidéo. Malheureusement tous mes plans sous-marins sont flous. J'ai eu l'occasion de pratiquer le snorkeling sur Mamutik Island ainsi qu'aux Perhentians. J'ai préféré la flore de Mamutik mais la faune aux Perhentians.
Vidéo de mon voyage en Malaisie : https://vimeo.com/69850085
C’est bien d’avoir un avis différent. Pourriez vous donner des détails sur votre "trip" sur la rivière Kinabatangan sans oublier les prix. Merci
Guy
Mon guide était Mr Aji. Tu peux trouver ses tarifs sur son site www.mrajiexpeditions.blogspot.fr. Il répond immédiatement aux messages. Pas de problème... J'avais lu plusieurs avis très positifs et je n'ai pas été déçu.
Il te récupère à ton hôtel à Sandakan ou à Sepilok, puis t'emmène à Sukau, petit village au bord de la rivière Kinabatangan. Là tu loges dans une famille adorable qui a aménagé sa maison pour accueillir les touristes. Le 1er jour, il y avait une autre famille de 3 personnes, après on était tout seul... Les chambres sont simples mais bien aménagées (avec salle de bain et ventilateur, AC avec supplément). Les tarifs comprennent le petit-déjeuner, le déjeuner et le diner : excellent et varié !
J'avais pris la formule "3 jours / 2 nuits" décrite sur son site. Au total, 2 balades en bateau sur différentes rivières, 1 balade à pied de nuit dans la forêt, 1 balade à pied le matin dans la forêt, 1 balade à pied (à proximité des grottes de Gomantong) lors du retour. Mr Aji est super, il veut te montrer un maximum d'animaux : singes, oiseaux, crocodiles, éléphants, insectes. Même si l'intérêt principal était de voir des animaux plus gros, la balade de nuit était géniale : on y a vu des insectes extraordinaires, des araignées, des oiseaux en train de dormir, des grenouilles, et même un chat sauvage qu'on a pisté plusieurs minutes.
Il te récupère à ton hôtel à Sandakan ou à Sepilok, puis t'emmène à Sukau, petit village au bord de la rivière Kinabatangan. Là tu loges dans une famille adorable qui a aménagé sa maison pour accueillir les touristes. Le 1er jour, il y avait une autre famille de 3 personnes, après on était tout seul... Les chambres sont simples mais bien aménagées (avec salle de bain et ventilateur, AC avec supplément). Les tarifs comprennent le petit-déjeuner, le déjeuner et le diner : excellent et varié !
J'avais pris la formule "3 jours / 2 nuits" décrite sur son site. Au total, 2 balades en bateau sur différentes rivières, 1 balade à pied de nuit dans la forêt, 1 balade à pied le matin dans la forêt, 1 balade à pied (à proximité des grottes de Gomantong) lors du retour. Mr Aji est super, il veut te montrer un maximum d'animaux : singes, oiseaux, crocodiles, éléphants, insectes. Même si l'intérêt principal était de voir des animaux plus gros, la balade de nuit était géniale : on y a vu des insectes extraordinaires, des araignées, des oiseaux en train de dormir, des grenouilles, et même un chat sauvage qu'on a pisté plusieurs minutes.
Je n'ai pas les informations avec moi, mais je logeais au Paganakan Dii (Sepilok) et ai fais part de mon souhait de me rendre ensuite au Kinabatangan.
Ils m'ont donc proposé deux agences, m'assurant que l'une d'elles était bien meilleur. Ne faisait confiance qu'à moi-même, j'ai choisi l'autre :)
Le lendemain matin, des minivan venaient chercher tout le monde, ça ne s'arrêtait plus et nous nous restions là à attendre. Finalement une voiture est venue nous chercher. Une fois sur place, nous avons découvert que nous n'étions que deux. L'endroit était plus que douteux. Notre chambre avait une odeur horrible et les anciens locataires n'étaient autre que des rats. Bref un endroit magique où la nourriture était horrible.
À part ça les ballades étaient sympa, mais je déconseille l'endroit. Je viendrais compléter mon message avec le nom de l'agence au plus vite.
Par contre, même si c'est le package de base qui est proposé par toutes les agences est un 3d/2N. Ca me semble long. Avec un package 2D/1N, j'ai eu le temps de faire deux ballades en bateau et une nocturne. Ce qui est largement suffisant pour voir un tas d'animaux.
Par contre, même si c'est le package de base qui est proposé par toutes les agences est un 3d/2N. Ca me semble long. Avec un package 2D/1N, j'ai eu le temps de faire deux ballades en bateau et une nocturne. Ce qui est largement suffisant pour voir un tas d'animaux.
Vidéo de mon voyage en Malaisie : https://vimeo.com/69850085
Merci pour votre réponse rapide et précise. C’est effectivement très intéressant. J’ai déjà envoyé un mail à Mr Aji afin de savoir si ses tarifs étaient all inclusive et il m’a répondu oui dans la minute, wahoo !
Nous allons donc faire affaire si je trouve une autre personne intéressée sur place, car je voyage seul.
Bonne journée !
Guy
Ma question ne s’adressait pas à vous car je ne savais pas que vous aviez aussi fait ce périple. Toutefois vos commentaires sont très intéressants car ils montrent qu’il y a de grosses différences entre les agences. Je vais aussi réfléchir si je prends 2 ou 3 jours.
Bonne journée
Guy
Pour ceux qui souhaitent aller a bako : il est difficile et peu rentable d y aller sur une journée : pour accéder à Bako, il faut commencer par se rendre un embarcadère situé à 25 km de kuching, puis attendre le moment propice pour qu'un bateau vous emmène jusqu'a bako. Le moment propice dépend des marées: http://www.mareespeche.com/as/malaysia/kuching-sarawak-river , des conditions de mer (traversée annulée certains jours), et de la disponibilité d'un bateau évidemment
Les hébergements ne sont pas chers sur place, si ce n'est qu'il faut les réserver suffisament longtemps à l'avance. Le taux de remplissage est proche de 100% sur toute l'année
J'ajoute que c'est tellement génial de dormir à Bako, lorsque la plupart des visiteurs sont partis 🙂
J'y ai passé 4 jours, levée 5h pour surprendre les nasiques au lever du jour !!!
(J'y suis allée avant Labuk Bay, c'était donc la 1° fois que je voyais des nasiques, 1° fois aussi pour les Nepenthes !!!)
+ plein de belles ballades à faire à pied A/R ou en se faisant récupérer par les pêcheurs
Merveilleux Souvenir !!!
Merveilleux Souvenir !!!
A tout hasard j’ai essayé le raccourci de sur votre profil : http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/renaudsechet. Mais il est invalide, dommage,
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Les informations que vous donnez sont très intéressantes et précises, à tel point que j’espérais un blog où tout serait compilé, dommage, me voilà condamner à relire les 5 pages de cette discussion et copier collée pour imprimer le guide Renaud Sechet sur Bornéo
si tu as le courage de compiler ca et de partager ca sur VF, tu auras au moins mes remerciements, avant ton voyage pour preparer celui ci, et/ou apres en faisant le bilan avec des infos toutes fraiches bonne balade
PS pour Bako, j ai oublié de redire que si le trajet en bus (pour moi ca a pros 2h) ou en taxi (1h pour d autres touristes le meme jour) se coordonnent bien avec les departs bateau, ca donne a peu pres 3h30 kuching-depart rando a bako en bus, et 2h30 en taxi, soit 5 à 7h de bouffees sur la journee, les heures les plus fraiches perdues pour la rando: pas trop jouable de partir avant le lever du jour en bus, et encore plus hasardeux de compter sur un taxi a la tombee de la nuit a l embarquadere. Si par manque de chance, les choses ne se coordonnent pas parfaitement, (Ca m est arrivé à l aller, ET au retour 3 jours plus tard), tu peux rajouter plusieurs heures d attente (que ce soit pour le depart en bateau, ou pour trouver un taxi a l embarquadere perdu au milieu de la brousse)
conclusion, si tu pars un matin et que tu as de la chance, tu auras le temps de faire une rando avant la nuit a bako, et avant d aller te coucher (les randos de nuit accompagnees par des rangers sont top aussi). enfin au retour, j avais vise un retour en debut d aprem en esperant trouver un taxi, j ai attendu 1 heure ou 2, avant de prendre un bus puisque c etait ce qui se presentait en premier. pour avoir une vraie journee a bako, il faut donc y passer 2 nuits, ce qui permet eventuellement deux randos de nuit, qui ont ete un regal a chaque fois pour moi (voir photos)
j ai choisi cette configuration sur couchsurfing, mon profil n est visible que par des membres couchsurfing connectes «This member has chosen to show their profile only to members who are logged in. If you are a member, please log in to view this profile.»
Les informations que vous donnez sont très intéressantes et précises, à tel point que j’espérais un blog où tout serait compilé, dommage, me voilà condamner à relire les 5 pages de cette discussion et copier collée pour imprimer le guide Renaud Sechet sur Bornéo
si tu as le courage de compiler ca et de partager ca sur VF, tu auras au moins mes remerciements, avant ton voyage pour preparer celui ci, et/ou apres en faisant le bilan avec des infos toutes fraiches bonne balade
PS pour Bako, j ai oublié de redire que si le trajet en bus (pour moi ca a pros 2h) ou en taxi (1h pour d autres touristes le meme jour) se coordonnent bien avec les departs bateau, ca donne a peu pres 3h30 kuching-depart rando a bako en bus, et 2h30 en taxi, soit 5 à 7h de bouffees sur la journee, les heures les plus fraiches perdues pour la rando: pas trop jouable de partir avant le lever du jour en bus, et encore plus hasardeux de compter sur un taxi a la tombee de la nuit a l embarquadere. Si par manque de chance, les choses ne se coordonnent pas parfaitement, (Ca m est arrivé à l aller, ET au retour 3 jours plus tard), tu peux rajouter plusieurs heures d attente (que ce soit pour le depart en bateau, ou pour trouver un taxi a l embarquadere perdu au milieu de la brousse)
conclusion, si tu pars un matin et que tu as de la chance, tu auras le temps de faire une rando avant la nuit a bako, et avant d aller te coucher (les randos de nuit accompagnees par des rangers sont top aussi). enfin au retour, j avais vise un retour en debut d aprem en esperant trouver un taxi, j ai attendu 1 heure ou 2, avant de prendre un bus puisque c etait ce qui se presentait en premier. pour avoir une vraie journee a bako, il faut donc y passer 2 nuits, ce qui permet eventuellement deux randos de nuit, qui ont ete un regal a chaque fois pour moi (voir photos)
Non je n’ai pas eu le courage de faire la compil des posts intéressants. Mais en les lisant, je me suis fait mon programme de 6 jours à Bornéo qui commence mercredi prochain à Labuck Bay. Le seul hic c’est que je suis seul et pour M. AJI il faut au moins deux participants pour le 3D/2N sur la rivière Kinabatangan. S’il ne trouve personne j’improviserai au Sepilock Jungle Resort.
Compte rendu au retour 🙂
Guy
Le seul hic c’est que je suis seul et pour M. AJI il faut au moins deux participants pour le 3D/2N sur la rivière Kinabatangan. S’il ne trouve personne j’improviserai au Sepilock Jungle Resort.
Si tu dois improviser et meubler 1 ou 2 jours, je te conseille plutôt labuk bay. j y etais reste 3 jours, en faisant qq balades autour (dont la balade au village de pecheurs dont je garde un bon souvenir). Il se passe bcp plus de choses aux feeding de labuk qu a sepilok. de plus, les hebergements autour de sepilok sont bcp plus chers, et ne vallaient pas le prix en 2009. si je devais rester plusieurs jours a sandakan, je ferais une journee a sepilok, une journee a sandakan (j ai bcp aimé le marché central le matin, le reste est un peu flou ds ma memoire, mais j avais loue une moto sur une journee et je ne me suis pas ennuyé. et 2 ou 3 jours sur labuk, si tu as assez de place sur tes cartes memoires pour les photos et videos, vive la fonction rafale pour attraper le moment magique sur les singes toujours en mouvement. en restant 3 jours a labuk, j ai vu des trucs differents a chaque fois, y compris une chasse de python, qui a reussi a noyer une femelle nasique. entre les nasiques qui hurlaient et gesticulaient, et un ranger qui a emmerdé le python avec un bout de bois, le serpent s est barré mais il etait trop tard pour la femelle. c etait un jour ou des etudiants etaient la, ils ont autopsie la femelle et m ont raconte tout un tas de trucs interessants sur les nasiques
Si tu dois improviser et meubler 1 ou 2 jours, je te conseille plutôt labuk bay. j y etais reste 3 jours, en faisant qq balades autour (dont la balade au village de pecheurs dont je garde un bon souvenir). Il se passe bcp plus de choses aux feeding de labuk qu a sepilok. de plus, les hebergements autour de sepilok sont bcp plus chers, et ne vallaient pas le prix en 2009. si je devais rester plusieurs jours a sandakan, je ferais une journee a sepilok, une journee a sandakan (j ai bcp aimé le marché central le matin, le reste est un peu flou ds ma memoire, mais j avais loue une moto sur une journee et je ne me suis pas ennuyé. et 2 ou 3 jours sur labuk, si tu as assez de place sur tes cartes memoires pour les photos et videos, vive la fonction rafale pour attraper le moment magique sur les singes toujours en mouvement. en restant 3 jours a labuk, j ai vu des trucs differents a chaque fois, y compris une chasse de python, qui a reussi a noyer une femelle nasique. entre les nasiques qui hurlaient et gesticulaient, et un ranger qui a emmerdé le python avec un bout de bois, le serpent s est barré mais il etait trop tard pour la femelle. c etait un jour ou des etudiants etaient la, ils ont autopsie la femelle et m ont raconte tout un tas de trucs interessants sur les nasiques
LABUK BAY. Septembre 2013
Je suis allé à Labuk Bay. J'ai passé une nuit au Nipah logde afin de voir le 1er feeding qui soit disant était "à ne pas manquer" alors qu'il est semblable à celui de 14h sur la même plateforme. Sur ces deux feeding on voit beaucoup de nasiques et quelques singes d'une autre race mais aucun autre animal. Sur le feeding plateforme B il y a, enplus des nasiques, des "silver leaf" qui se mélangent aux touristes, ses singes sont trės "amicaux" car, sans être nourris par les visiteurs, ils restent avec eux comme par plaisir !? Ah, oui j'ai aussi vu un écureuil. Et lors du "night jungle walk"(20RM) des sortes de lucioles et 1 criquet. Mais où donc ont été prises les trės jolies photos qui démarre ce post ????????
Quand au Nipah lodge je me suis offert un chalet; c'est bien mais je ne crois pas que ça vale les 180 RM demandés; au robinet il n'y a qu'un filé d'eau, pas assez pour que la douche chaude fonctionne pourtant nous n'étions que 2 clients. Nourriture correct mais pour avoir une biére c'est un peu compliqué. Le personnel est trés sympa toutefois sur la note finale il y avait une erreur de 30 RM en leur faveur...
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Guy
SEPILOK ORANG UTAN REHAB CENTRE (septembre 2013)
conforme au cahier des charges ;-) Les singes sont minum à 10 m.
J'ai logé au Sepilok Resort Jungle. j'ai adoré l'immense jardin bien agencé, les parasols champignons en ciment et lampadaires fleurs. Le Sepilok Nature Resort est plus chic, trop à mon gout.
Guy
Mais où donc ont été prises les trės jolies photos qui démarre ce post ????????
si ca n avait pas deja ete dit dans cette discussion, a labuk bay: des nasiques, des semnopitheques, des macaques, quelques insectes, des kalaos, a sepilok et a semengoh des orang outang et des macaques, a bako, sur la kinabatangan, au hazard de mes balades (mais surtout a bako) un peu de tout
Quand au Nipah lodge je me suis offert un chalet; c'est bien mais je ne crois pas que ça vale les 180 RM demandés; au robinet il n'y a qu'un filé d'eau, pas assez pour que la douche chaude fonctionne pourtant nous n'étions que 2 clients. Nourriture correct mais pour avoir une biére c'est un peu compliqué. Le personnel est trés sympa toutefois sur la note finale il y avait une erreur de 30 RM en leur faveur...
les lits en dortoir chambres de 4: 28Rm/nuit, sanitaires partagés, moi j etais seul a chaque fois, personnel tres sympa aussi, pas de mauvaise surprise sur la note, pour les boissons je me souviens d avoir teste un peu de tout, et de m etre regale avec les jus et cocktails de fruits, les plats etaient entre 5 et 10 Rm, les jus moins chers je crois
PS: tu n as pas precise le prix des hebergements a sepilok
si ca n avait pas deja ete dit dans cette discussion, a labuk bay: des nasiques, des semnopitheques, des macaques, quelques insectes, des kalaos, a sepilok et a semengoh des orang outang et des macaques, a bako, sur la kinabatangan, au hazard de mes balades (mais surtout a bako) un peu de tout
Quand au Nipah lodge je me suis offert un chalet; c'est bien mais je ne crois pas que ça vale les 180 RM demandés; au robinet il n'y a qu'un filé d'eau, pas assez pour que la douche chaude fonctionne pourtant nous n'étions que 2 clients. Nourriture correct mais pour avoir une biére c'est un peu compliqué. Le personnel est trés sympa toutefois sur la note finale il y avait une erreur de 30 RM en leur faveur...
les lits en dortoir chambres de 4: 28Rm/nuit, sanitaires partagés, moi j etais seul a chaque fois, personnel tres sympa aussi, pas de mauvaise surprise sur la note, pour les boissons je me souviens d avoir teste un peu de tout, et de m etre regale avec les jus et cocktails de fruits, les plats etaient entre 5 et 10 Rm, les jus moins chers je crois
PS: tu n as pas precise le prix des hebergements a sepilok
A Labuk le dortoir était à 35 RM
À Sepilok Jungle Resort 70 RM chambre avec ventilo et douche chaude; le truc bien c'est qu'un deuxiéme ventilo "extracteur" envoyait l'air de l'exterieur dans la chambre. J'oubliais: belle piscine 🙂
Guy
À Sepilok Jungle Resort 70 RM chambre avec ventilo et douche chaude; le truc bien c'est qu'un deuxiéme ventilo "extracteur" envoyait l'air de l'exterieur dans la chambre. J'oubliais: belle piscine
damned ca a l air bien mieux et bien moins cher que tous ceux que j avais visite, et j en avais fait une demi douzaine avant de me rabattre sur labuk, bon plan
damned ca a l air bien mieux et bien moins cher que tous ceux que j avais visite, et j en avais fait une demi douzaine avant de me rabattre sur labuk, bon plan
KINABATANGAN RIVER
Pour moi c'est le must ! Certainement grâce à mon guide M.AJI (mrajiwildlifeexpeditions.com) Là j'ai vu dans leur milieu naturel 5 races de singes dont ourang outang, éléphants, serpent, varans, divers insectes et oiseaux dont le kalao. Evidemment les photos ne sont pas aisées ; c'est pour cela que les feedings ont leur utilité.
J'ai pris le 3D/2N je pense que c'est le mieux pour voir un maximum d'animaux (surtout si on a comme moi 1 jour de pluie)
4 personnes maximum, logement trés net (mais pas douche chaude:-( ) Bonne cuisine simple, patronne sympa et souriante On peut amener sa biėre :-) et faire laver son linge.
Guy
J'avais loupé ce post,
Superbe !
Kop khoun mak krap
🙂
Bonjour,
Mi Novembre, nous arrivons a kl, apres c est Borneo... Mais j ai encore pas trop la suite !
L idée, c est kl-Tawau, Sipadan, Sandakan, Kinabatangan, Labuk bay, Kota Kinabalu pour prendre l avion pour Mulu, Kota-Bali, ballade en moto une semaine.
J aurai aimé savoir, s il est possible de se loger et faire du snorkeling sur Mabul, qui parait selon ce que je lis, la plus abordable des iles, pour mon budget ! Sans cette fameuse autorisation si convoité pour Sipadan ? Nous ne nous rendrons pas a Sipadan, vu que nous de plongeons pas. Ou, s il est possible en logeant a Semporna ( moins original ! Mais certainement moins cher...), de trouver des bateaux pour se rendre sur Mabul et d autres iles a la journée, pour faire du snorkeling ?
Puis si vous aviez déjá loué des motos sur Borneo, pour plus que la journée ? Quel serait le secteur le plus sympa a faire en moto quelques jours ?
Merci beaucoup.
J aurai aimé savoir, s il est possible de se loger et faire du snorkeling sur Mabul, qui parait selon ce que je lis, la plus abordable des iles, pour mon budget ! Sans cette fameuse autorisation si convoité pour Sipadan ? Nous ne nous rendrons pas a Sipadan, vu que nous de plongeons pas. Ou, s il est possible en logeant a Semporna ( moins original ! Mais certainement moins cher...), de trouver des bateaux pour se rendre sur Mabul et d autres iles a la journée, pour faire du snorkeling ?
Puis si vous aviez déjá loué des motos sur Borneo, pour plus que la journée ? Quel serait le secteur le plus sympa a faire en moto quelques jours ?
Merci beaucoup.
Le monde semble sombre ... quand on a les yeux fermés
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J aurai aimé savoir, s il est possible de se loger et faire du snorkeling sur Mabul, qui parait selon ce que je lis, la plus abordable des iles, pour mon budget ! Sans cette fameuse autorisation si convoité pour Sipadan ?
oui c est possible, un peu moins cher (pas beaucoup) si tu ne prends pas de forfait plongee le snorkeling devant la plage est déjà exceptionnel
Nous ne nous rendrons pas a Sipadan, vu que nous de plongeons pas.
c est possible d aller a sipadan pour faire de l apnee, c est tres cher (un peu moins qu en plongee bouteille) mais ca les vaut a mon sens, j ai plongé dans pas mal de coins dans le monde, c est dans mon top 10, c est aussi dans le top 10 de tous les magazines de plongee, ca n est pas un hazard, vraiment dommage d aller dans ce secteur la et de passer a cote de ces merveilles si tu es amatrice. maintenant c est vrai que c est tres cher, les prix ont explose, ca veut dire qu ils ont encore des clients a ce prix la
Ou, s il est possible en logeant a Semporna ( moins original ! Mais certainement moins cher...), de trouver des bateaux pour se rendre sur Mabul et d autres iles a la journée, pour faire du snorkeling ?
tu peux calculer en regardant les prix, et en te disant qu en dormant a semporna, tu rates l aube, le crepuscule, et plusieurs heures dans le transport en bateau. si tu comptes y rester plusieurs jours, dors sur mabul, j en garde un bien meilleur souvenir que les autres sites plus proches de semporna. de plus, pas sur que le transport quotidien ne te revienne pas plus cher que la difference de prix de l hebergement semporna/mabul
Puis si vous aviez déjá loué des motos sur Borneo, pour plus que la journée ? Quel serait le secteur le plus sympa a faire en moto quelques jours ?
mes spots preferes pour des balades a moto 1) Kuching et de loin: plein de parc nationaux de tous les cotes, des routes potables, plein d activites touristiques, une jolie cambrousse hors des sentiers battus en roulant au hazard a qq dizaines de km de kuching, plantations de poivre, d epices, elevages exotiques...il y a de quoi y rester 2 ou 3 semaines en bougeant tous les jours 2) autour de sandakan
par contre je n ai pas accroche du tout a kota kinabalu, j ai peut etre rate qq chose
bonnes balades
oui c est possible, un peu moins cher (pas beaucoup) si tu ne prends pas de forfait plongee le snorkeling devant la plage est déjà exceptionnel
Nous ne nous rendrons pas a Sipadan, vu que nous de plongeons pas.
c est possible d aller a sipadan pour faire de l apnee, c est tres cher (un peu moins qu en plongee bouteille) mais ca les vaut a mon sens, j ai plongé dans pas mal de coins dans le monde, c est dans mon top 10, c est aussi dans le top 10 de tous les magazines de plongee, ca n est pas un hazard, vraiment dommage d aller dans ce secteur la et de passer a cote de ces merveilles si tu es amatrice. maintenant c est vrai que c est tres cher, les prix ont explose, ca veut dire qu ils ont encore des clients a ce prix la
Ou, s il est possible en logeant a Semporna ( moins original ! Mais certainement moins cher...), de trouver des bateaux pour se rendre sur Mabul et d autres iles a la journée, pour faire du snorkeling ?
tu peux calculer en regardant les prix, et en te disant qu en dormant a semporna, tu rates l aube, le crepuscule, et plusieurs heures dans le transport en bateau. si tu comptes y rester plusieurs jours, dors sur mabul, j en garde un bien meilleur souvenir que les autres sites plus proches de semporna. de plus, pas sur que le transport quotidien ne te revienne pas plus cher que la difference de prix de l hebergement semporna/mabul
Puis si vous aviez déjá loué des motos sur Borneo, pour plus que la journée ? Quel serait le secteur le plus sympa a faire en moto quelques jours ?
mes spots preferes pour des balades a moto 1) Kuching et de loin: plein de parc nationaux de tous les cotes, des routes potables, plein d activites touristiques, une jolie cambrousse hors des sentiers battus en roulant au hazard a qq dizaines de km de kuching, plantations de poivre, d epices, elevages exotiques...il y a de quoi y rester 2 ou 3 semaines en bougeant tous les jours 2) autour de sandakan
par contre je n ai pas accroche du tout a kota kinabalu, j ai peut etre rate qq chose
bonnes balades
Je vous remercie beaucoup pour toutes ces precisions...
Je pense que l on se balladera en moto vers Sandakan.
Pour Kota, je ne crois pas, moi non plus être plus seduite sûr place que ce que j en lis...mais c est le moyen le plus simple pour rejoindre Bali.
Bon prochain voyage, a vous ...
Le monde semble sombre ... quand on a les yeux fermés
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j y retourne en juillet, a kuching, ça s est bien passé pour toi?
Bonjour Renaud
Quel est ton top 10 plongée bouteille ? Je cherche LE spot pour septembre.
Merci d'avance.
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Bonjour Renaud
Quel est ton top 10 plongée bouteille ? Je cherche LE spot pour septembre.
Merci d'avance
tu prends les tops 10 des magazines de plongee et tu enleves les coins avec un climat defavorable: en gros en septembre toute la zone tropicale de l hemisphere nord. ca laisse un gros terrain de jeux sur l equateur et dans l hamisphere sud pour rester dans le sujet de la discussion, SIPADAN a borneo est certainement dans les meilleures places de mon top 10, les prix y ont explose ces dernieres annees, a mon sens c est tellement exceptionnel que ça les vaut (aussi dans la mesure ou ça participe a la protection et la perenite du spot). pas loin derriere, la polynesie, et la nouvelle caledonie, mais la les prix sont encore plus eleves et ce depuis longtemps
tu prends les tops 10 des magazines de plongee et tu enleves les coins avec un climat defavorable: en gros en septembre toute la zone tropicale de l hemisphere nord. ca laisse un gros terrain de jeux sur l equateur et dans l hamisphere sud pour rester dans le sujet de la discussion, SIPADAN a borneo est certainement dans les meilleures places de mon top 10, les prix y ont explose ces dernieres annees, a mon sens c est tellement exceptionnel que ça les vaut (aussi dans la mesure ou ça participe a la protection et la perenite du spot). pas loin derriere, la polynesie, et la nouvelle caledonie, mais la les prix sont encore plus eleves et ce depuis longtemps
Coucou!
Je suis allé sur Singapour finalement et Tioman island pour la plongée. Je recommande Singapour pour ceux qui aiment l Asie citadine sans les désagréments. Tioman fut un peu plu sdifficle avec l hotel Berjaya qui s estrévélé être un Club Merd avec tous les inconvénients du tourisme de masse. Finalement allé sur un ressort à côté où les dive master étaient en grève. J ai finalement trouveé un divemaster, malaysien tres sympa. Et fini sur le Japamala, un hôtel assez cher mais reposant mais sans divemaster. Dans 3 semaines je pars sur Phuket. Peut être ferai je un saut sur Bornéo ou sur Bali. Comme j ai eu une acivité profesionnelle un peu rock ces derniers, rien ne s'est passé comme prévu. Faut vraiment que je m organise pour faire Bornéo ereinement ...
Je suis allé sur Singapour finalement et Tioman island pour la plongée. Je recommande Singapour pour ceux qui aiment l Asie citadine sans les désagréments. Tioman fut un peu plu sdifficle avec l hotel Berjaya qui s estrévélé être un Club Merd avec tous les inconvénients du tourisme de masse. Finalement allé sur un ressort à côté où les dive master étaient en grève. J ai finalement trouveé un divemaster, malaysien tres sympa. Et fini sur le Japamala, un hôtel assez cher mais reposant mais sans divemaster. Dans 3 semaines je pars sur Phuket. Peut être ferai je un saut sur Bornéo ou sur Bali. Comme j ai eu une acivité profesionnelle un peu rock ces derniers, rien ne s'est passé comme prévu. Faut vraiment que je m organise pour faire Bornéo ereinement ...
Coucou Renaud,
Tu as vu tout ca juste pendant les feedings ou Tu as fait un tour avec le Niapah lodge? SI c EST un tour lequel? Car je NE vois pas de tour de 3j sur leur site web.
Merci.
SYLVIE
:)
Coucou Renaud,
Tu as vu tout ca juste pendant les feedings ou Tu as fait un tour avec le Niapah lodge? SI c EST un tour lequel? Car je NE vois pas de tour de 3j sur leur site web.
Merci.
SYLVIE
dans les photos sur ce fil, il y a aussi des photos de plusieurs autres endroits à borneo, par exemple de Bako a kuching, doselo si à l'époque je n'avais pas forcément pris le temps de préciser tout ça. Les Feeding de labuk bay, la proximité des singes, l'encadrement par des gens qualifiés, qui connaissait leur affaire au niveau gestion, comportement des animaux sauvages, de la sécurité, tout concours a permettre de faire des photos exceptionnelles, beaucoup plus facilement que dans la nature sauvage. De quoi faire chauffer les cartes mémoire des appareils photo.
Sinon, je n'ai fait que deux «tours» avec le nipah lodge: le tour de nuit pour aller voir les lucioles, un varan, un croco(ou plutot l reflet de la torche dans ses yeux), je crois que ça avait duré deux heures, le guide était un étudiant, ce qu'il avait à raconter a fait 90 % de l'intérêt de la sortie, on a peut-être pas eu beaucoup de chance au niveau de la faune, j'en ai vu beaucoup plus de nuit au parc Bako, par contre la qualité de la prestation du guide était excellente, d'un niveau équivalent a ce celui des rangers du parc de Bako. J'ai également fait un un tour dans 1 village de pêcheurs sur une petite demi-journée de trois ou quatre heures. J'ai bien aimé, voir les gens préparer le poisson, le mettre à sécher, voir le matériel de pêche, les techniques de séchage... Il y avait une autre touriste avec moi, qui a trouvé ça inintéressant. Dans mon souvenir, c'était tout à fait abordable niveau tarif par rapport à la qualité de la prestation, mais ça n'en valait pas le coup pour la touriste qui m'avait accompagnée.
Les deux fois où j'ai été au nipah Lodge, la fréquentation pour le tour était vraiment très faible, il y avait surtout des gens qui venaient à la demi-journée ou à la journée pour voir les feedings. Je ne sais pas si l'affluence est plus grande certains jours, ça vaut probablement le coup de réserver, ne serait-ce que pour augmenter tes chances d'avoir un guide. Lors de mon deuxième passage, j'accompagnais quelqu'un qui n'était encore jamais venu. J'ai eu un peu peur de l'aspect répétitif, mais en fait j'ai vu des choses, des comportements, des scènes que je n'avais pas encore vues, j'ai pris des photos magnifiques à chaque fois. Même si on un feeling, tu as déjà le temps de prendre des centaines de photos, je ne m'en lassais pas, en partie grâce aux commentaires éclairé des étudiants et des biologistes sur place. Je ne sais pas si ils sont présents en permanence, mais les deux fois où j'y étais, ils étaient vraiment très intéressant, disponibles (c'était des personnes différentes à chaque fois)...
dans les photos sur ce fil, il y a aussi des photos de plusieurs autres endroits à borneo, par exemple de Bako a kuching, doselo si à l'époque je n'avais pas forcément pris le temps de préciser tout ça. Les Feeding de labuk bay, la proximité des singes, l'encadrement par des gens qualifiés, qui connaissait leur affaire au niveau gestion, comportement des animaux sauvages, de la sécurité, tout concours a permettre de faire des photos exceptionnelles, beaucoup plus facilement que dans la nature sauvage. De quoi faire chauffer les cartes mémoire des appareils photo.
Sinon, je n'ai fait que deux «tours» avec le nipah lodge: le tour de nuit pour aller voir les lucioles, un varan, un croco(ou plutot l reflet de la torche dans ses yeux), je crois que ça avait duré deux heures, le guide était un étudiant, ce qu'il avait à raconter a fait 90 % de l'intérêt de la sortie, on a peut-être pas eu beaucoup de chance au niveau de la faune, j'en ai vu beaucoup plus de nuit au parc Bako, par contre la qualité de la prestation du guide était excellente, d'un niveau équivalent a ce celui des rangers du parc de Bako. J'ai également fait un un tour dans 1 village de pêcheurs sur une petite demi-journée de trois ou quatre heures. J'ai bien aimé, voir les gens préparer le poisson, le mettre à sécher, voir le matériel de pêche, les techniques de séchage... Il y avait une autre touriste avec moi, qui a trouvé ça inintéressant. Dans mon souvenir, c'était tout à fait abordable niveau tarif par rapport à la qualité de la prestation, mais ça n'en valait pas le coup pour la touriste qui m'avait accompagnée.
Les deux fois où j'ai été au nipah Lodge, la fréquentation pour le tour était vraiment très faible, il y avait surtout des gens qui venaient à la demi-journée ou à la journée pour voir les feedings. Je ne sais pas si l'affluence est plus grande certains jours, ça vaut probablement le coup de réserver, ne serait-ce que pour augmenter tes chances d'avoir un guide. Lors de mon deuxième passage, j'accompagnais quelqu'un qui n'était encore jamais venu. J'ai eu un peu peur de l'aspect répétitif, mais en fait j'ai vu des choses, des comportements, des scènes que je n'avais pas encore vues, j'ai pris des photos magnifiques à chaque fois. Même si on un feeling, tu as déjà le temps de prendre des centaines de photos, je ne m'en lassais pas, en partie grâce aux commentaires éclairé des étudiants et des biologistes sur place. Je ne sais pas si ils sont présents en permanence, mais les deux fois où j'y étais, ils étaient vraiment très intéressant, disponibles (c'était des personnes différentes à chaque fois)...
D accord :D merci beaucoup!
J'ai un programme chargé mais en tout cas tout tes postes sur plusieurs discussions m' ont beaucoup aidé.
Bako, Gunung Gading, Labuk bay, Semenggoh, Sandakan, Kinabatangan plus encore Sumatra... J espère que je vais en voir des choses!
Si j'ai le temps et la forme je vais encore tenter les kelabit et guning mulu...
Je vais pouvoir te faire un update :)
:)
@Marmoun9 Re: Quel pays pour 2 semaines de backpacking en Asie du Sud-Est?
voir cette discussion: http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7277674
Pour une durée de 15 jours, est-ce qu'un itineraire (très grossier pour l'instant) tel que celui là te semble envisageable : Avion : Kuala Lumpur => Kuching 5 jours de vadrouille en moto en passant par Semenggoh OU Bako OU Taman Negara (car pas le temps de faire les 3!), en dormant chez les locaux
bako est une perle, le plus ancien taman negara (parc national) de borneo, avec une faune qui ne voit plus l homme comme un predateur depuis longtemps, et qui se laisse approcher comme nulle part ailleurs a borneo. mais ça se merite: pour y aller il faut prendre un bateau, à un embarcadere au milieu de nulle part, a 25km de kuching. Le nombre d'hébergement est limité, et le taux de remplissage est proche de 100 %. Si tu n'as pas réservé plusieurs semaines, voire plusieurs mois l'avance, tes chance d'y rester une nuit sont proches de zéro. C'est difficile de le faire sur la journée, les bateaux pour y aller et revenir dépendent de la marée et des conditions de mer (et éventuellement du nombre de clients, sauf si tu acceptes de charteriser le bateau(de payer toutes les «places»). Si tu n'as pas de chance, la marée haute est à midi, et les aller retour ne peuvent se faire qu entre 10 heures et 14 heures par exemple, voire pas du tout si la mer est mauvaise. Autour de kuching, il y a une douzaine de taman negara (parcs nationaux) tout à fait accessibles en moto. Pour certains d'entre eux, la visite est restreinte a un ou 2 circuits faisables en quelques heures, si tu t'organises bien, tu peux en visiter deux dans la même journée. Je l'ai refait cette année, la cartographie ayant évolué, c'est très facile de le faire de façon totalement autonome. J'ai utilisé principalement la solution de Nokia: HERE , qui fonctionne hors-ligne, même pour les recherches et le guidage GPS point à point. Il y a encore quelques trous de couverture dans le réseau Mobile quand tu t'aventures hors de kuching, mais là où tu as du réseau, Google Maps et Apple plans fonctionnent très bien également.
Semenggoh a été un peu décevant cette année: nous n'avons vu qu un seul orang-outan, mais des centaines de touristes parmi lesquels un nombre non négligeable de gros balourds bruyants et sans gene qui auraient fait fuir les singes les plus sociables et les plus curieux. Essaie de te renseigner pour choisir un jour le moindre affluence, j'avais gardé le souvenir d une visite superbe il y a quelques années.
Transfert avion a Kinabalu et ascension du Mont (vaut-il le coup?). Le but serait quand même de pas trop trainer ici. Donc 2 jours max
L'ascension du Mont Kinabalu être très encadrée et payante, et théoriquement impossible à faire de façon autonome. Là aussi, il faut réserver, il me semble qu'elle ne peut pas se faire en une seule journée, tes deux jours maxi me semblent très optimistes.
Ensuite transfert vers Sandakan (en bus de nuit ? avion ? moto ?) et là 5 jours vers Labuk Bay, Sepilog, éventuellement un trek vers Kinabatangan
Ça fait 500 bornes, vu que tu es pressé, ça ne semble pas compatible avec la moto, que tu devrais rendre a kota Kinabalu de toutes façons. Si tu réserves suffisamment à l'avance en surveillant en les promos air asia, l'avion est moins cher que le bus: j avais payé une fois l’AR kuala lumpur-sandakan 44€ et les transferts du style kuching-KK ou KK-sandakan sont souvent en promo en dessous de 10€. Labuk Bay, Sepilok sont jouables en moto au depart de sandakan, mais le système de navette organisé par labuk bay est aussi tres bien. Pour aller sur la rivière Kinabatangan c est plus de 300km AR, pas trop compatible avec ton sprint. Sur place, pas vraiment de treks possibles, plutot des tours en barque sur la rivière. J'ai entendu qu'il fallait remonter de plus en plus loin pour réussir à voir des choses intéressantes.
2 jours restant à Sipadan. Une question : pour du PMT seulement est-ce que ça vaut le coup? Les logements sont sur l'ile? Avion : Tawau => Kuala
sipadan vaut tout a fait le coup en PMT. C'est très cher par rapport à toutes les autres activités sur l ile, mais ça les vaut largement. Si tu es amateur de beautés sous marines, ce serait très dommage de passer dans le coin et de rater ça. Ceci dit, c est aussi assez exigeant à organiser (reservations obligatoires, et ça demande au moins trois, voire quatre jours avec les transferts (jouable si tu laisse tomber par exemple le mont kinabalu, et que tu files directement de kuching a sandakan). Les logements sur l ilot MABUL pas tres loin de sipadan sont preferables a ceux de semporna. Impossible de loger sur sipadan meme.
Pour une durée de 15 jours, est-ce qu'un itineraire (très grossier pour l'instant) tel que celui là te semble envisageable : Avion : Kuala Lumpur => Kuching 5 jours de vadrouille en moto en passant par Semenggoh OU Bako OU Taman Negara (car pas le temps de faire les 3!), en dormant chez les locaux
bako est une perle, le plus ancien taman negara (parc national) de borneo, avec une faune qui ne voit plus l homme comme un predateur depuis longtemps, et qui se laisse approcher comme nulle part ailleurs a borneo. mais ça se merite: pour y aller il faut prendre un bateau, à un embarcadere au milieu de nulle part, a 25km de kuching. Le nombre d'hébergement est limité, et le taux de remplissage est proche de 100 %. Si tu n'as pas réservé plusieurs semaines, voire plusieurs mois l'avance, tes chance d'y rester une nuit sont proches de zéro. C'est difficile de le faire sur la journée, les bateaux pour y aller et revenir dépendent de la marée et des conditions de mer (et éventuellement du nombre de clients, sauf si tu acceptes de charteriser le bateau(de payer toutes les «places»). Si tu n'as pas de chance, la marée haute est à midi, et les aller retour ne peuvent se faire qu entre 10 heures et 14 heures par exemple, voire pas du tout si la mer est mauvaise. Autour de kuching, il y a une douzaine de taman negara (parcs nationaux) tout à fait accessibles en moto. Pour certains d'entre eux, la visite est restreinte a un ou 2 circuits faisables en quelques heures, si tu t'organises bien, tu peux en visiter deux dans la même journée. Je l'ai refait cette année, la cartographie ayant évolué, c'est très facile de le faire de façon totalement autonome. J'ai utilisé principalement la solution de Nokia: HERE , qui fonctionne hors-ligne, même pour les recherches et le guidage GPS point à point. Il y a encore quelques trous de couverture dans le réseau Mobile quand tu t'aventures hors de kuching, mais là où tu as du réseau, Google Maps et Apple plans fonctionnent très bien également.
Semenggoh a été un peu décevant cette année: nous n'avons vu qu un seul orang-outan, mais des centaines de touristes parmi lesquels un nombre non négligeable de gros balourds bruyants et sans gene qui auraient fait fuir les singes les plus sociables et les plus curieux. Essaie de te renseigner pour choisir un jour le moindre affluence, j'avais gardé le souvenir d une visite superbe il y a quelques années.
Transfert avion a Kinabalu et ascension du Mont (vaut-il le coup?). Le but serait quand même de pas trop trainer ici. Donc 2 jours max
L'ascension du Mont Kinabalu être très encadrée et payante, et théoriquement impossible à faire de façon autonome. Là aussi, il faut réserver, il me semble qu'elle ne peut pas se faire en une seule journée, tes deux jours maxi me semblent très optimistes.
Ensuite transfert vers Sandakan (en bus de nuit ? avion ? moto ?) et là 5 jours vers Labuk Bay, Sepilog, éventuellement un trek vers Kinabatangan
Ça fait 500 bornes, vu que tu es pressé, ça ne semble pas compatible avec la moto, que tu devrais rendre a kota Kinabalu de toutes façons. Si tu réserves suffisamment à l'avance en surveillant en les promos air asia, l'avion est moins cher que le bus: j avais payé une fois l’AR kuala lumpur-sandakan 44€ et les transferts du style kuching-KK ou KK-sandakan sont souvent en promo en dessous de 10€. Labuk Bay, Sepilok sont jouables en moto au depart de sandakan, mais le système de navette organisé par labuk bay est aussi tres bien. Pour aller sur la rivière Kinabatangan c est plus de 300km AR, pas trop compatible avec ton sprint. Sur place, pas vraiment de treks possibles, plutot des tours en barque sur la rivière. J'ai entendu qu'il fallait remonter de plus en plus loin pour réussir à voir des choses intéressantes.
2 jours restant à Sipadan. Une question : pour du PMT seulement est-ce que ça vaut le coup? Les logements sont sur l'ile? Avion : Tawau => Kuala
sipadan vaut tout a fait le coup en PMT. C'est très cher par rapport à toutes les autres activités sur l ile, mais ça les vaut largement. Si tu es amateur de beautés sous marines, ce serait très dommage de passer dans le coin et de rater ça. Ceci dit, c est aussi assez exigeant à organiser (reservations obligatoires, et ça demande au moins trois, voire quatre jours avec les transferts (jouable si tu laisse tomber par exemple le mont kinabalu, et que tu files directement de kuching a sandakan). Les logements sur l ilot MABUL pas tres loin de sipadan sont preferables a ceux de semporna. Impossible de loger sur sipadan meme.
Une proposition de janvier 2016 qui pourra être utile à d'autres amateurs de plongée sur Sipadan
"Thank you very much for your interest in a Sipadan budget resort. Kindly acknowledge receipt of this email, it would be much appreciated. Are you a solo traveller? Noted that you are a diver interested in 5 days / 4 nights package from 1st March 2016. As you have not been diving for a while, I would suggest that you do a refresher course (1 dive) upon your arrival to the dive resort. Are you French national but living in Malaysia? If you are, are holding a valid Malaysian ID or valid Malaysian working permit? For Seaventures Dive Rig and Borneo Divers Mabul Resort, I can offer you Malaysian rates if you have a valid documentation mentioned the above. There are a few budget choices around Sipadan and Mabul Islands. I have quoted below the 3 budget accommodations located at Mabul Island to assist you in your review on your ideal resort: 1) Seaventures Dive Rig Seaventures is a converted dive rig and hotel located near Mabul Island and a short boat ride from Sipadan and Kapalai Islands. We are pleased to offer you our best rates below (inclusive of 6% GST): The rate for Refresher course is MYR 318 per person. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 3, 560 per person based on open sharing cabin. If you choose above rates, you must be willing to share your room with another guest (if any) during your stay. If not, single supplement apply as below: The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 5, 360 per person based on single occupancy cabin. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 2, 660 per person based on quad share dorm room. The package price is inclusive of scheduled return land and boat transfers (minimum 2 person only), accommodation, full board meals and diving (for divers). The land transfer surcharge is apply at MYR 79.50 (inclusive of 6% GST) per way for single traveller. The FOC scheduled boat transfer from Semporna Jetty to the resort depart at 1000hrs only. (The recommended flight is MH2121 ETA 0815hrs) The FOC scheduled scheduled boat transfer out from the resort to Semporna Jetty depart at 1400hrs only. (we recommend you to book the flight which depart Tawau Airport not less than 1800hrs) If the single traveller follow other scheduled boat transfer (not mentioned above), he/she may need to pay extra MYR 318 (inclusive of 6% GST) per boat ride if there is no other guest has same scheduled as her/his. Remark: For guests staying in the twin/double sharing cabin, the rig can guarantee one day diving (three boat dives) in Sipadan for those who take a minimum 4D/3N diving package and two days diving (three boat dives daily) in Sipadan for those who take a minimum 7D/6N diving package. Remark: For guests staying in the quad share dorm room, the rig can guarantee one day diving (three boat dives) in Sipadan for those who take a minimum 5D/4N diving package. 2) Sipadan-Mabul Resort Sipadan-Mabul Resort is the land-based beach resort located on Mabul island and a short boat ride from Sipadan. There are three types of accommodation in Sipadan-Mabul Resort which are the standard chalet (semi-detached) where you share the balcony with the chalet next door, the stand alone chalet (detached) which has its own private balcony as well as the Suite Chalet. Note: The resort also features luxury over-the-water chalets. If you are interested, please let me know. We are pleased to offer you our best rates below (inclusive of 6% GST): Solo traveller can still enjoy the twin/open sharing rate below, however, they must be willing to share the room (standard and stand-alone chalet category only) with another guest (if any) during the stay. If not single occupancy charges will apply. The rate for Refresher course is MYR 340 per person. ** Standard Chalet The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 2, 380 per person based on twin/open sharing standard chalet. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 3, 570 per person based on single occupancy standard chalet. *The standard chalet is equipped with twin beds. ** Stand-Alone Chalet The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 2, 780 per person based on twin/open sharing stand- alone chalet. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 4, 180 per person based on single occupancy stand-alone chalet. *The stand alone chalet is equipped with twin or double beds. The package price is inclusive of scheduled return land and boat transfers, accommodation, full board meals and diving (for certified divers taking the diving package) T&C applies. The resort can only guarantee a one day diving (3 boat dives) in Sipadan for those who take a Minimum of 6D/5N diving package in stand alone chalet (detached) or Suite Chalet. For non-divers and divers who stay less than 5 nights and those who are staying in a Standard chalet, the Sipadan permit will not be guaranteed. If you wish to dive at Sipadan, it will depend on the availability of the permits from the resort or other dive operators. If the permits are available, the guests can opt to buy the permits. The indicative price is MYR 390 per permit. Priority is usually given to the guests who sign the Entry Permits Purchase Order form in advance. So please let us know if you wish to buy the permit to Sipadan so we can send you the form. However, please note that even after the form is signed, the Sipadan permits are still not guaranteed. 3) Borneo Divers Mabul Resort: Borneo Divers Mabul Resort is the land-based beach resort located on Mabul island and a short boat ride from Sipadan and Kapalai. We are pleased to offer you our best rates below (inclusive of 6% GST): The rate for Refersher course is MYR 297 per person. The rate for a diver's package (5D/4N) is MYR 3, 410 per person based on twin / open sharing standard (semi-detached) chalet. Solo traveller may still enjoy the above rate, however, you must be willing to share the chalet with another guest (if any) during your stay. If not, single occupancy charges apply (inclusive of 6% GST): The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 5, 100 per person based on single occupancy standard (semi-detached) chalet. The package price is inclusive of scheduled return land and boat transfers, accommodation, full board meals and diving (for divers). Remark: The resort can only guarantee a one day diving (4 boat dives) / snorkelling in Sipadan for those who take a minimum of 5D/4N stay. Based on your length of stay, if you would like to have a permit / more than one permit, you have the option of purchasing the entry permit in advance for diving in Sipadan from the resort (subject to the availability of permit). For prepayment of additional Sipadan permit, cost is MYR 146 (inclusive of GST and MYR 40 Sipadan Entrance Fee). The price stated will also apply for last minute/additional permit requests at the resort. This can be0 paid locally ** Kindly note that the land and boat transfer is for a minimum of 2 person. Should there be no other guests in the same transfer, you would need to pay for single traveller surcharge. ** This will not apply if you are taking the single occupancy Standard (semi-detached) Chalet option (as long as it is following the scheduled transfers). The scheduled land transfer surcharge is MYR 159 per way for single traveller. The scheduled boat transfer surcharge is MYR 636 per way for single traveller. For more information about the resorts, rental of equipment, recommended flights and T&C, kindly refer to the attachment. Don’t hesitate to contact us should you need any additional information or if you have any comments. Should you be interested to communicate via Facebook, please let me know. I can add you to my Facebook account (see footer). If you prefer to speak on the phone, you can call us at +60 (0) 88 257 669. Kindly let us know the soonest possible if you are interested in proceeding with the booking as availability is subject to change. Have a nice day and hope to hear from you soon. Best Regards, Amnah Rozieyana Tel: +60 (0) 88257669 Fax: +60 (0) 88264639 Mobile: +60 (0) 1118810508 Whatsapp: 00601118810508 Skype: amnah.adh Facebook contact: amnah adh Chat with me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010381784452
La première fois que j ai plongé là-bas en 2009, les prix étaient grosso modo 10 fois moins chers... le pack 3 jours/9 plongees dont 3 plongees a sipadan m avait coute 500Rm!!!
"Thank you very much for your interest in a Sipadan budget resort. Kindly acknowledge receipt of this email, it would be much appreciated. Are you a solo traveller? Noted that you are a diver interested in 5 days / 4 nights package from 1st March 2016. As you have not been diving for a while, I would suggest that you do a refresher course (1 dive) upon your arrival to the dive resort. Are you French national but living in Malaysia? If you are, are holding a valid Malaysian ID or valid Malaysian working permit? For Seaventures Dive Rig and Borneo Divers Mabul Resort, I can offer you Malaysian rates if you have a valid documentation mentioned the above. There are a few budget choices around Sipadan and Mabul Islands. I have quoted below the 3 budget accommodations located at Mabul Island to assist you in your review on your ideal resort: 1) Seaventures Dive Rig Seaventures is a converted dive rig and hotel located near Mabul Island and a short boat ride from Sipadan and Kapalai Islands. We are pleased to offer you our best rates below (inclusive of 6% GST): The rate for Refresher course is MYR 318 per person. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 3, 560 per person based on open sharing cabin. If you choose above rates, you must be willing to share your room with another guest (if any) during your stay. If not, single supplement apply as below: The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 5, 360 per person based on single occupancy cabin. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 2, 660 per person based on quad share dorm room. The package price is inclusive of scheduled return land and boat transfers (minimum 2 person only), accommodation, full board meals and diving (for divers). The land transfer surcharge is apply at MYR 79.50 (inclusive of 6% GST) per way for single traveller. The FOC scheduled boat transfer from Semporna Jetty to the resort depart at 1000hrs only. (The recommended flight is MH2121 ETA 0815hrs) The FOC scheduled scheduled boat transfer out from the resort to Semporna Jetty depart at 1400hrs only. (we recommend you to book the flight which depart Tawau Airport not less than 1800hrs) If the single traveller follow other scheduled boat transfer (not mentioned above), he/she may need to pay extra MYR 318 (inclusive of 6% GST) per boat ride if there is no other guest has same scheduled as her/his. Remark: For guests staying in the twin/double sharing cabin, the rig can guarantee one day diving (three boat dives) in Sipadan for those who take a minimum 4D/3N diving package and two days diving (three boat dives daily) in Sipadan for those who take a minimum 7D/6N diving package. Remark: For guests staying in the quad share dorm room, the rig can guarantee one day diving (three boat dives) in Sipadan for those who take a minimum 5D/4N diving package. 2) Sipadan-Mabul Resort Sipadan-Mabul Resort is the land-based beach resort located on Mabul island and a short boat ride from Sipadan. There are three types of accommodation in Sipadan-Mabul Resort which are the standard chalet (semi-detached) where you share the balcony with the chalet next door, the stand alone chalet (detached) which has its own private balcony as well as the Suite Chalet. Note: The resort also features luxury over-the-water chalets. If you are interested, please let me know. We are pleased to offer you our best rates below (inclusive of 6% GST): Solo traveller can still enjoy the twin/open sharing rate below, however, they must be willing to share the room (standard and stand-alone chalet category only) with another guest (if any) during the stay. If not single occupancy charges will apply. The rate for Refresher course is MYR 340 per person. ** Standard Chalet The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 2, 380 per person based on twin/open sharing standard chalet. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 3, 570 per person based on single occupancy standard chalet. *The standard chalet is equipped with twin beds. ** Stand-Alone Chalet The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 2, 780 per person based on twin/open sharing stand- alone chalet. The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 4, 180 per person based on single occupancy stand-alone chalet. *The stand alone chalet is equipped with twin or double beds. The package price is inclusive of scheduled return land and boat transfers, accommodation, full board meals and diving (for certified divers taking the diving package) T&C applies. The resort can only guarantee a one day diving (3 boat dives) in Sipadan for those who take a Minimum of 6D/5N diving package in stand alone chalet (detached) or Suite Chalet. For non-divers and divers who stay less than 5 nights and those who are staying in a Standard chalet, the Sipadan permit will not be guaranteed. If you wish to dive at Sipadan, it will depend on the availability of the permits from the resort or other dive operators. If the permits are available, the guests can opt to buy the permits. The indicative price is MYR 390 per permit. Priority is usually given to the guests who sign the Entry Permits Purchase Order form in advance. So please let us know if you wish to buy the permit to Sipadan so we can send you the form. However, please note that even after the form is signed, the Sipadan permits are still not guaranteed. 3) Borneo Divers Mabul Resort: Borneo Divers Mabul Resort is the land-based beach resort located on Mabul island and a short boat ride from Sipadan and Kapalai. We are pleased to offer you our best rates below (inclusive of 6% GST): The rate for Refersher course is MYR 297 per person. The rate for a diver's package (5D/4N) is MYR 3, 410 per person based on twin / open sharing standard (semi-detached) chalet. Solo traveller may still enjoy the above rate, however, you must be willing to share the chalet with another guest (if any) during your stay. If not, single occupancy charges apply (inclusive of 6% GST): The rate for a diver’s package (5D/4N) is MYR 5, 100 per person based on single occupancy standard (semi-detached) chalet. The package price is inclusive of scheduled return land and boat transfers, accommodation, full board meals and diving (for divers). Remark: The resort can only guarantee a one day diving (4 boat dives) / snorkelling in Sipadan for those who take a minimum of 5D/4N stay. Based on your length of stay, if you would like to have a permit / more than one permit, you have the option of purchasing the entry permit in advance for diving in Sipadan from the resort (subject to the availability of permit). For prepayment of additional Sipadan permit, cost is MYR 146 (inclusive of GST and MYR 40 Sipadan Entrance Fee). The price stated will also apply for last minute/additional permit requests at the resort. This can be0 paid locally ** Kindly note that the land and boat transfer is for a minimum of 2 person. Should there be no other guests in the same transfer, you would need to pay for single traveller surcharge. ** This will not apply if you are taking the single occupancy Standard (semi-detached) Chalet option (as long as it is following the scheduled transfers). The scheduled land transfer surcharge is MYR 159 per way for single traveller. The scheduled boat transfer surcharge is MYR 636 per way for single traveller. For more information about the resorts, rental of equipment, recommended flights and T&C, kindly refer to the attachment. Don’t hesitate to contact us should you need any additional information or if you have any comments. Should you be interested to communicate via Facebook, please let me know. I can add you to my Facebook account (see footer). If you prefer to speak on the phone, you can call us at +60 (0) 88 257 669. Kindly let us know the soonest possible if you are interested in proceeding with the booking as availability is subject to change. Have a nice day and hope to hear from you soon. Best Regards, Amnah Rozieyana Tel: +60 (0) 88257669 Fax: +60 (0) 88264639 Mobile: +60 (0) 1118810508 Whatsapp: 00601118810508 Skype: amnah.adh Facebook contact: amnah adh Chat with me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100010381784452
La première fois que j ai plongé là-bas en 2009, les prix étaient grosso modo 10 fois moins chers... le pack 3 jours/9 plongees dont 3 plongees a sipadan m avait coute 500Rm!!!
J'ai deja personnellement plongé 2 fois avec Borneo Divers : plongées très professionnelles (top guides), resort confortable et excellente cuisine mais le réel "plus" réside dans le nombre de permis disponibles pour Sipadan : leur quota est de 14 plongeurs/jour (le + important de tous les opérateurs). Ce qui permet d'y aller plonger tous les 2 jours... 😇 Le site Mabul/Sipadan n'est certes "pas donné" mais sans etre excessif.
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Bonjour Renaud,
Bien que ces post soient anciens, je pense que le thème peut toujours être d'actualité.
Je voudrais savoir si, dans tes balades en Malaisie (Bornéo) ou Indonésie tu as rencontré cet insecte : hymenopus coronatus plus connue sous le nom d'Orchid Mantis (photos du web jointes). Je suis comme Théodore Monod avec sa Monodiella Flexuosa : je la cherche depuis plus de trois ans. Merci bien à toi - mb
"A force de sacrifier l'essentiel pour l'urgence,
On finit par oublier l'urgence de l'essentiel."
Edgar Morin
Je voudrais savoir si, dans tes balades en Malaisie (Bornéo) ou Indonésie tu as rencontré cet insecte : hymenopus coronatus plus connue sous le nom d'Orchid Mantis
je crois que j en ai vu ... au zoo de singapour
j ai vu d autre mantes en thailande, malaisie, borneo, avec des couleurs moins voyantes (vertes ou brunes) jamais quand je les cherchais, quelquefois en foret, et quelquefois dans des endroits improbables comme a bangkok sur la poignée d une moto, a cote d un petit parc
bonne chance
je crois que j en ai vu ... au zoo de singapour
j ai vu d autre mantes en thailande, malaisie, borneo, avec des couleurs moins voyantes (vertes ou brunes) jamais quand je les cherchais, quelquefois en foret, et quelquefois dans des endroits improbables comme a bangkok sur la poignée d une moto, a cote d un petit parc
bonne chance
Merci bien Renaud. Effectivement les mantes vertes sont assez courantes mais la mante orchidée vraiment difficile à trouver même dans les parcs à papillons comme à Chiang Mai ou Bali où ils disaient en avoir. Je pense qu'à l'insectarium de Penang il y en a et, en plus ils viennent juste de ré-ouvrir ce lieu.
Bon, je n'irai pas exprès mais merci encore
cordialement
"A force de sacrifier l'essentiel pour l'urgence,
On finit par oublier l'urgence de l'essentiel."
Edgar Morin
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Bonjour ,
Nou souhaitons nous rendre de Chiang Rai a Luang Prabang en novembre prochain .
Pour cela nous aimerions prendre un slow boat a partir de Chiang Khong ou plutôt de Houeisay au Laos avec un stop pour la nuit a Pakbeng .
Pourriez vous nous indiquer si ce bateau se prend toujours en fin de matinée a Houeisay , si oui a quelle heure environ et quel est le prix du trajet
Merci pour votre aide
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
Bonjour,
Après lectures et recherches, nous envisageons les étapes suivantes au Cambodge en janvier 2027 : - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (A/R)
Je m'interroge sur le sens de ces étapes, ce qui peut également conditionner nos vols internationaux. Soit un aller/retour depuis Phnom Penh dans l'ordre ci-dessus. Soit un atterrissage à Siem Reap avec l'ordre suivant :
- Battambang (A/R) - Siemp Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (A/R)
Cette 2ème option nous éviterait le trajet Battambang - PP - Kampot mais suppose de faire un A/R Battambang depuis Siem Reap et de placer le "clou du voyage" (Angkor) au début de notre séjour..
Qu'en pensez-vous?
Par avance un grand merci pour votre aide.
Bon dimanche
Après lectures et recherches, nous envisageons les étapes suivantes au Cambodge en janvier 2027 : - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (A/R)
Je m'interroge sur le sens de ces étapes, ce qui peut également conditionner nos vols internationaux. Soit un aller/retour depuis Phnom Penh dans l'ordre ci-dessus. Soit un atterrissage à Siem Reap avec l'ordre suivant :
- Battambang (A/R) - Siemp Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (A/R)
Cette 2ème option nous éviterait le trajet Battambang - PP - Kampot mais suppose de faire un A/R Battambang depuis Siem Reap et de placer le "clou du voyage" (Angkor) au début de notre séjour..
Qu'en pensez-vous?
Par avance un grand merci pour votre aide.
Bon dimanche
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before: - Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Thanks, and long live the Nam! !
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees. Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands. Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way). Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan. Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide). Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre. Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island. Day 10 – Head to Semporna. Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai. Day 15 – Bohey Dulang. Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous. I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing. I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture. But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary. If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
What do you all think? Thanks in advance!
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!













