Currency exchange while traveling: why do some still carry wads of cash?
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AT Atila Globetrotter ·
My solution to what?

You mean my way of exchanging money?

Adapting to the country with a preference for card payments and withdrawals from ATMs. An online bank account to reduce fees.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
The topic is currency exchange, not travel insurance.

The comparison helps open up new possibilities. Of course, you should look into it based on your situation, as with everything.

Do you buy blindly?
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
My way of exchanging money, you mean?

Adapting to the country with a preference for card payments and withdrawals from ATMs. An online bank account to reduce fees.

Yeah, what’s the amount (percentage) of your ATM withdrawal fees? (outside the Eurozone)

One note: ATMs also depend on the banks in the country where you’re withdrawing. I noticed that in South Africa, fees could be higher at some banks. Do you pay attention to that, or are you carefree in those cases?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
The topic is currency exchange, not travel insurance.

I usually gauge a site's credibility based on the areas I know I can assess.

Do you buy blindly, then?

I’m not nitpicky, but I’ve learned from life experiences—in Turkey and especially in Georgia—just how counterproductive that tendency can be.

Michel
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
What’s the fee percentage for your ATM withdrawals outside the Eurozone?

Zero.

ATMs also depend on the banks in the country where you’re withdrawing.

Yep. So I always withdraw the maximum each time and compare banks on the first withdrawal (usually, there are several ATMs in the same spot...).

For 18 days in South Africa, about 2-3 withdrawals. Not enough to break the bank or change my habits (way more cost-effective than exchanging currency anyway).
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
I usually gauge a site's credibility by the topics I know I can assess.

I never take a site at face value. It's a source of information to verify, a starting point.

Same goes for real life.
GR Groschats Veteran ·
This site is pleasant to read, but it's mostly sponsored...

It took me less than 3 minutes to spot the first blunder... Fortuneo must not be paying them much... 😇
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AT Atila Globetrotter ·
This is apparently a community-driven site. You can send a message to the author so they can fix the error (and Tatra too, while they're at it).

VF is also sponsored. All free ones are.

(For Fortuneo, that matches what I use it for. What’s the error?)
GR Groschats Veteran ·
It seems to be a community-driven site.

VF is also sponsored.

(For Fortuneo, it matches what I use it for. What’s the mistake?)

You’re telling me—I had no idea! There was a big controversy a while back about this site and its sponsor for insurance: Chapka... So I’ve been cautious... But there are also some interesting things I’ll check out. The tip to avoid those 220 baht fees on every withdrawal in Thailand... So thanks anyway for the link—this tip wasn’t there before.

Fortuneo just made its Gold Mastercard completely free this month... No more fees, except for those infamous ATM charges. The only thing left to improve for Fortuneo to be a great travel deal is lifting the limits, which are too restrictive.
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HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
Has anyone on this forum ever traveled with just one suitcase, even a carry-on, full of cash? If so, that’s interesting. If not, that could put an end to the topic 😉
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Has anyone on this forum ever traveled with just one suitcase full of cash? If so, that’s interesting.

I haven’t traveled with one, but once I ended up with almost a suitcase full of cash while I was there. After selling my car in Niger or Togo, I had an impressive amount of cash in West African CFA francs! Then I went to Ghana, where exchanging on the black market (just a small portion) gave me 2 to 3 times the official rate for a currency that was basically worthless! (Unheard of!) There were no ATMs in Ghana back then😏. You can’t imagine how much cash I hauled around in my bag until the next border! When I crossed into Côte d’Ivoire through some random border post, the customs officer searched my bag, started counting every single bill one by one, and incredibly, didn’t ask for a single one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
Haha, didn't see that one coming... 😉 Well, I'm waiting for the traveler who set off with... just one suitcase of cash—even if it's all small bills.
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AT Atila Globetrotter ·
I still don’t get what the issue is with Fortuneo. The rate is clearly at zero on the chart. So what’s the deal???

(It’s the ads—the sponsor for most of these sites.)
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
People often tell me I'm too down-to-earth. Now I use a figurative expression and that’s not right either...

Piles of bills add up quickly in some countries. One trip to the ATM and you can’t fit any more in your wallet.

Plus, you have to be careful given the condition of those bills.

The smallest is worth just a few euro cents...

I remember hiding my Indian rupees in a cigarette pack back when international bank cards were a luxury. Yet I hadn’t exchanged much...

It’s also one of the reasons I started using my card intensively as soon as possible.

Ending up with several centimeters of bills in your pocket—and collecting those little yellow coins like Chirac’s grandma—gets heavy after a while.

Some locals even end up adopting another currency for large transactions because they were literally using suitcases of cash. My memories are fading. I can’t remember if it was in Cambodia or Laos where I saw this almost 20 years ago. Local currency and dollars for big sums.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Wads of bills add up fast in some countries. One trip to the ATM and you can’t even fit them in your wallet anymore.

Plus, you’ve gotta watch out for the condition of those bills.

The smallest denomination is worth just a few euro cents...

I remember hiding my Indian rupees in a cigarette pack back when international bank cards were a luxury. And I hadn’t even exchanged that much...

That’s also one of the reasons I switched to using my card as much as possible as soon as I could.

Yeah, it’s a good solution, but it’s not always the best in every country. For South Africa, it’s ideal—Botswana and Namibia, I’m not sure, but probably too... In other African countries, not so much, just like in parts of South America or certain Asian countries... But like I said, ATMs aren’t always reliable when you’ve been (like me) "burned" twice: card swallowed, bank closed, cash not dispensed, etc. You *have* to have two cards, and not from the same bank—one Mastercard and one Visa, for example... and that still doesn’t mean you shouldn’t carry cash in large bills, well hidden!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
In Asia and Latin America, I’ve always used my card (except in Myanmar during the blockade). Even in Cambodia when there were no ATMs. You go to a bank counter with your card, and they give you cash. It takes longer than an ATM and costs more, but it saves you from carrying a month’s salary with the risk of losing it, forgetting it, or getting scammed by money changers. So Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, Myanmar, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Armenia, Georgia, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador, Mexico, Guatemala, Israel, Jordan, Turkey → card. Argentina if you want to contribute to the enrichment of local banks. That’s already quite a few countries, right?

In all the African countries I’ve crossed too: Zambia, Namibia, Mozambique, Egypt, South Africa, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, Morocco, Tunisia.

You use cash exchange, like others, because it’s in your mindset, your habits—not always because it’s the only option.

Basically, you could do without it 90% of the time, but you prefer another way for personal reasons tied to who you are. It’s your choice, not an obligation.

The obligation comes when you have no other choice, when alternatives are extremely complicated or very costly. (In Myanmar, you could get cash with a card despite the blockade, but with a prohibitive commission...)

I’m talking about exchange, not cash payments, which isn’t the topic of this discussion.

Cards and exchange both allow cash payments.

The subject is how to obtain local currency.

when I’ve been "tricked" twice (like me)

If I followed that logic, I’d stay home instead of trekking above 4,000 meters since a stent lets me breathe.

It’s the same thing. It shows that when you have irrational fears yourself, you’d do better not to mock others for theirs... 😄
MO Mong1 Globetrotter ·
Some locals even end up adopting another currency for their large transactions because, precisely, they were made with suitcases of bills. My memories are fading. I can't remember if it was in Cambodia or Laos where I observed this almost 20 years ago.

In Laos... (Message 118, I was actually recalling some memories with "suitcases" of Kip! 🙂) I remember seeing someone in a small bank in Luang Prabang with a well-filled bag...

You're right about it being around twenty years ago—my trip was in '99.

I searched the internet for a representative photo of travelers with those stacks of bills... I’d seen some on blogs, but can’t find them anymore.

- Here’s an excerpt from Wikipedia: Until 2006, the largest bill was 20,000 Kips, but it wasn’t always available in large quantities, and it was common to need a special bag to carry an amount from the exchange bureau if you got small denominations. With a 100 € bill, you’d often receive more than 200 bills of 5,000 Kip!
NI Nicotch ·
Iran, for example. Three years ago, there was no way to use a credit card. Other countries like Burundi where it's better to exchange cash on the black market unless you want to lose a third of your budget.
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
You go to a bank counter with your card and they give you cash.

Hmm, that’s an option I hadn’t considered... But I’d need to get a new card. I think it only makes sense if you travel several times a year. That’s not my case anymore, or if it’s a second trip within the eurozone, so no extra fees with my debit card. For those who only travel once a year, I don’t think it’s worth the hassle (or the cost!). But it *does* become interesting to look into when you’re traveling long-term...

Basically, you could do without it 90% of the time, but you prefer another way of doing things for personal reasons that reflect who you are.

Mostly, for any transaction, I’d rather have a real person in front of me than a machine. By handling things this way—at the bank and especially with insurers—I’ve been able to negotiate (not for foreign exchanges, though) in ways I couldn’t over the phone, for example... The banker never confiscated my card, but that little ATM box did it twice, and despite my protests, they refused to give it back... I had to spend a ton of energy (and money) and a lot of time to get it back or recover my funds. Not to mention all the little hassles that come with losing a card... As long as it hasn’t happened to you, life’s great with ATMs!

If I followed that logic, I’d stay home instead of trekking above 4,000 meters since a stent lets me breathe. Same category. It just shows that when you have your own irrational fears, you shouldn’t mock others for theirs...

Yeah, you’re right—it’s the same thing... I’m less afraid of getting mugged by shady people on a street corner who’d take my cash (I always keep a few bills in my pocket just in case) than of having my card swallowed by that little box and having to chase people down, send emails, make calls to get it back... I don’t mock people who have fears that aren’t mine, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
CH Choucarde Globetrotter ·
Other countries like Burundi where it's better to exchange cash on the black market unless you want to lose a third of your budget

Oh yeah, in Burundi it was definitely more worthwhile that way, but also without getting caught. I remember on the street, especially in Buja but not only there, as soon as we started digging into our bags or pockets, eyes were practically always locked on us to see what we pulled out. Never felt that anywhere else.

Speaking of suitcases, there’s also Guinea Conakry, where when you went to a restaurant, your wallet had to be the size of a briefcase! !
Choucarde
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
With a 100 euro bill, we often used to get more than 200 bills of 5000 Kip!

It's even more now! 975 000 Kip = 100 € And 100 € in Vietnam... that's 2 550 000 Dong! 1 € = 25 000 Dong!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Other countries like Burundi where it's better to exchange cash on the black market unless you want to lose a third of your budget

Losing 1/3 isn’t huge compared to what I’ve seen in Ghana, for example, but it still adds up! You’ve gotta be sure of your move when you do your little transaction on a street corner in the middle of the city. In Delhi, I met a money changer who was an amazing sleight-of-hand artist (the Gérard Majax of black-market exchange!), and a lot of people got scammed. Luckily, I practice this art myself a little... 😏
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MO Mong1 Globetrotter ·
With a 100 € ticket, we often received more than 200 bills of 5000 Kip!

It's much more now! 975 000 Kips = 100 € And 100 € in Vietnam... that's 2 550 000 Dong! 1 € = 25000 Dong!

Yeah, it's a lot more now... but there are larger exchange bills available! [;]
MO Mondusthan Regular ·
Hi,

Thanks for the comparative link, Attila—it’s really interesting.

After looking into it, the two that seem most appealing to me are: - Max, with its Mastercard - MaFrenchBanque, with its Visa

If anyone uses either of these banks, I’d love to hear your thoughts...

A few advantages I’ve found:

- Withdrawals are free in France and abroad for both online banks. That’s not the case with N26 or Monabanq, for example.

- Account maintenance fees are low (MaFrenchBanq: 2 €) or free (Monabanq). Unlike N26 (9.90 €/month) or Monabanq (6–9 €/month).

- No commitment for either. Unlike N26 (minimum 1-year commitment, renewable).

Okay, but one downside in my opinion:

- Both online banks (Max and MaFrenchBanque) validate online payments by sending an SMS (which is tricky for me since I travel without a mobile phone).

Finally, is it better to have a Mastercard or a Visa when traveling outside the EU?
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
- The two online banks (Max and MaFrenchBanq) validate online payments by sending an SMS (which is inconvenient for me since I travel without a mobile phone).

Yep... Some here would say you just need that monthly plan thing for 39 €! Not to mention that if someone steals your cash, they can also steal your phone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
. People often accuse me of being too down-to-earth. Now I use a figurative expression and it still doesn’t go over well...

So I tried my hand at sarcasm and it flopped 😉 Still, I did some research to find out how much cash you can take out of France (how much in the suitcase?) and I didn’t find any answers.
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MG Mguibentif Globetrotter ·
. People often criticize me for being too down-to-earth. Now I use a figurative expression and that’s not okay either...

Turns out I tried sarcasm and it flopped 😉 Still, I did some research to find out how much cash you can take out of France (how much in the suitcase?) and didn’t find any answers.

10,000 € without having to declare it...
Mathilde
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
You can take out as much as you want—hundreds of millions—if you have it, as long as you fill out a declaration for any amount over 10,000 €... For larger sums, you’ll need to prove where the money came from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
HA Hannahannah Globetrotter ·
This discussion is enlightening. This story reminds me of my first days of retirement. On my way to the deep south of Morocco, I made a stop in Andalusia and got a call from the bank that stopped me in my tracks: "Can you explain the origin of the sum that was deposited into your account?" (a little over 8,000 €—my retirement severance pay plus my paid leave). Good grief, I brushed off the kind lady... What business is it of mine? Plus, the origin was clearly stated on the transfer. I felt like a notorious trafficker. No explanation from the person, just suspicion in her voice. Me, who had never had such a large sum in my account before—how could this be... and blah blah blah... When I got back, the bank apologized. It was apparently Tracfin’s orders. Yet, you can withdraw as much cash as you want... What kind of world do we live in?
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GR Groschats Veteran ·
I still don’t get what the mistake was with Fortuneo. The rate is clearly zero on the chart. So… what’s the deal?

(It’s the ads, the sponsor for most of these sites.)

Yeah, I misread that.
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GR Groschats Veteran ·
Generally speaking, I’d still side with Attila on traveling with my credit cards, mostly because I’m too absent-minded and can’t be bothered to dry bills after doing laundry...

I was wondering if there are still countries like Mauritania was about ten years ago, where I could finance a trip on top of the one I was already taking.

In Mauritania, there was the fake exchange rate at banks and the street exchange (in shops). There were two seasons when you could find the ouguiya (UM) around 270–300, and for the same euro, you’d get between 380 and 420. Since I often passed through the area either to sell or to go sell further away, I played the game a lot... Same with selling cars... It worked from 2005 to 2010. I’d stock up on the dollars I needed instead of paying fees to my bank.

I don’t do it anymore, but a few years ago, I also kept an eye on the dollar’s exchange rate... It’s less profitable now, but I’ve managed to score some nice deals by anticipating dollar purchases.
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CH Chafachou Regular ·
We just got back from Argentina with US dollars and euros. We also exchanged some for pesos because it’s better for small markets and artisans. Don’t forget tips—they’re happy with dollars or euros. Of course, credit cards work too.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
In Laos...

Thanks for jogging my memory! 🙂
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
In Iran, it's now possible to get a local prepaid bank card so you don’t have to carry all your cash around:

https://fr.irandestination.com/carte-de-credit-en-iran/

https://rocketbike.org/mah-card-startup-iranienne-de-cartes-bancaires-prepayees/

I’m adding Burundi to the list of countries where, like Venezuela, the official exchange rate is terrible, making the black-market exchange preferable.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
For those who only travel once a year, I don’t think it’s worth the hassle (or the cost!)

If you’ve read all the comments, you’ll see that most people aren’t motivated by the financial side but by the convenience.

So even for a single trip, those who find cards practical will use them.

Especially since they can be just as useful in daily life here as abroad—no need to open multiple accounts or deal with extra banks if you don’t want to.

I prefer having a real person to talk to rather than a machine.

Machines are often more reliable... Here and everywhere else.

Humans have moods. They can be corruptible. They can be incompetent.

As long as it hasn’t happened to you, life’s great with ATMs!

I’ve had issues with cards and debit/credit systems. Nothing that justifies the trauma of swearing them off.

The country that gave me the most problems? France...

Try buying something when your card’s been hacked and you don’t have it anymore. Cash? Your bank needs to be open... A check? Thanks to scammers who pay with bad checks, they’re rarely accepted now...

So it wasn’t the card I cursed—it was the merchants refusing checks...

than having my card stolen from the little box and having to chase people down, write emails left and right, and call around to get it back...

A card can be used at a bank during opening hours for those who are worried.

I’m not mocking those who have fears that aren’t mine.

Oh really? Do you always take things at face value? You never make fun of some VF members’ concerns, like in the *Travel & Health* section?

When you recommend gris-gris against malaria, is that serious?😮
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
This would be Tracfin’s orders.

Yes. Large money transfers are monitored to combat money laundering.

For the same reason, you can’t pay just any amount in cash. At a merchant, for example, the limit is 1000 €.

On the other hand, you can take out as much cash as you want...

Not without declaring it. The limit is 10 000 €.
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
You can use Revolut for currency exchange. It's free.
TR Traplina Regular ·
Without declaring it, no. 10,000 euros.

Still, be careful with 10,000 € when leaving France, because most of the time it’s only $10,000 when you arrive! (For example, it’s posted pretty much everywhere in Buenos Aires airports)
OB Obeoandpai Globetrotter ·
In Laos...

Thanks for jogging my memory! 🙂

I really liked the Cambodian ATMs.

😎

Mon YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/voyageurasie/videos?view_as=subscriber
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Oh really? Do you always write in earnest? You never mock the questions some VF members have, like in the "Travel and Health" section?

When you recommend gris-gris against malaria, is that serious?

It’s precisely because I take malaria seriously. When a VF member suggests essential oils or some herbal tea as an effective way to protect against malaria, I recommend gris-gris just as effectively to provoke a reaction. And besides, I often respond on this forum based on what I know or what I’ve learned from the person asking the question, you see. By the way, after what I recently learned from one of your posts, I’ll adjust some of my answers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
If you feel like making fun of people who believe in gris-gris, that’s your call.

Being honest enough to admit it would be a plus, but oh well...
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
If you feel like mocking people who believe in gris-gris, that’s your call.

Come on, Attila—I’m not mocking anyone at all. I actually think gris-gris works wonders for all sorts of everyday things, just not for curing cancer or protecting against malaria. Didn’t you make the same kind of jokes about the "pilgrims" on the Moses or Jesus Trail in Israel when you referenced *Life of Brian*? Don’t you think that comparison might also hurt some believers’ feelings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
the alternative of wiring money to yourself from France is often convenient...

I’m revisiting this point, which could be useful for me—and for future travelers heading to Argentina.

If I understood correctly, this involves transferring a sum via your bank card, bank account, or cash from France to Argentina through an agency like Western Union.

You pick up the amount in pesos at the chosen counter.

Do you know how long the money waits for you and how much time passes between requesting the transfer and being able to collect the cash?

It’s not exactly easy to organize if you’re not staying in the same place for several days, right?

Thanks
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
But I’ll gladly admit I’m being cheeky. That’s the whole difference. I’m not playing the innocent.
TR Traplina Regular ·
Do you know how long the money waits for you and how much time passes between requesting a transfer and being able to pick up the tickets?

I’m only speaking from my experience with Worlremit, which I’ve used several times, but there are plenty of other companies out there: Western Union, Transferwise, Azimo, etc.

I had my bank register their IBAN before leaving France, so I wouldn’t have to deal with SMS validation during the transfer—something that often doesn’t work well for me in Argentina.

Here’s how it works: - Make a SEPA transfer from your personal bank to their European account. - WorldRemit always confirms the transfer as soon as they receive the email from my bank, without waiting for the money to actually land in their account. - They then send a code by email for pickup at one of the Argentine networks. WorldRemit partners with More Money Transfer: just a heads-up, they aren’t everywhere in Argentina (especially not in the south), and some neighborhood branches don’t always have cash available.

For the first transfer, they asked me to send a scanned ID. From sending the SEPA transfer to having the cash in pesos, it took 3 hours (I just checked my emails).

For subsequent transfers, the whole process takes a maximum of 20 minutes (yes, I mean funds available in 20 minutes).

Currently, the maximum you can transfer to Argentina (this varies by country) in one go is around 1,400 € (1,500 USD), with a monthly limit of 10,000 USD.

The fee is 3.99 € per transfer. The exchange rate isn’t great: 64.17 pesos today, compared to 65.40 at Banco Nación.

Worth comparing with Western Union, for example (though I don’t know their terms), where the rate seems amazing right now!
VA Vaikeaiti Regular ·
Hi Alain,

Totally agree. Bank fees are painless but prohibitive. Personally, depending on the country, I carry euros and US dollars (the ideal currency in Central and South America) in cash. I book hotels with a credit card, but I let them know I’ll pay in cash when I arrive. Generally no problem. I’ve had issues with credit cards getting damaged by the imprinters used in some countries (including the US) or having data skimmed via a receipt kept under the counter... Since then, I’ve been careful and suspicious. As a rule, I never withdraw money from street ATMs at night or outside bank opening hours (which must be locally recognized). I’ve also had a card swallowed by an ATM. Total bad luck!!! Finally, I don’t give my bank or anyone else the right or the ability to know which country I’m visiting. That’s nobody’s business. In the age of intrusive and inquisitive social media and IT, I like to keep my freedom of movement. And I’m not the only one who operates this way! Contrary to what’s said and written here and there, the French aren’t ready to give up cash. Media and government propaganda. We’ll see that in neighboring European countries, people love cash and large bills: Germany, Austria, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Portugal.... False problem, then.

Moana
VM
AT Atila Globetrotter ·
Bank fees are painless but prohibitive.

When you join a discussion, you read it in full. You could’ve learned that this common belief has become rather outdated.

On the other hand, exchange bureau fees *are* still painless (the "no commission" smokescreen) but often prohibitive (depends on the country and the exchanger’s honesty).

I’ve had credit cards crushed by the clamps used in some countries

Haven’t seen a clamp in ages…

Never had any issues with cash? Theft, dishonest exchangers, loss, forgetting it in the washing machine, a sudden gust of wind (yep, happened to me…)

Finally, I don’t give my bank—or anyone else—the right or the ability to know which country I’ve traveled to. That’s nobody’s business

Then what are you doing here?

I’m always surprised to read these conspiracy theories on forums.

Do you use workarounds so VoyageForum can’t see your real IP address?

Italy, Spain, Portugal…

Money-laundering paradises. You can add Greece to that list.

Some Nordic countries, often seen as virtuous, behave the opposite way.

The French aren’t ready to give up cash.

Old-school thinkers (not necessarily by age) and schemers.

Sure, suitcases of bills handed under the table by companies to secure public contracts—that’s *totally* the future…
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
I just booked a ferry ticket, here’s a little heads-up:

As the data communication is via satellite connection, we cannot guarantee that card payments will go through.
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AT Atila Globetrotter ·
Cash won't be transferred via satellite link either...
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
This refers to onboard payments... meals, etc.
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