Le pays qui ne vous intéresse pas du tout?
by Shiraz75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
À part là pas de problèmes olfactifs ailleurs, mais il faut dire que c'était ma seule sortie d'Europe, et les villes européennes sont en général propres et ne sentent pas mauvais... (j'exclus Paris, et je n'ai pas vraiment visité Marseille, ni Naples).
Marseille ça vaut le déplacement tout de même! Pour les problèmes olfactifs évite de venir quand les éboueurs sont en grève sinon ça sent très bon.😏
Marseille ça vaut le déplacement tout de même! Pour les problèmes olfactifs évite de venir quand les éboueurs sont en grève sinon ça sent très bon.😏
Bonjour à tous ,
Et moi, je ne vais pas dans les pays où voyager avec un guide me serait imposer ...ils ne sont pas bien nombreux , heureusement .
Et moi, je ne vais pas dans les pays où voyager avec un guide me serait imposer ...ils ne sont pas bien nombreux , heureusement .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Bonjour,
Je n'apprécie pas trop non plus l'obligation de guide mais pourrait plus facilement l'accepter que certaines lois ou modes de fonctionnement. Maintenant, obliger d'avoir un guide c'est déjà limitant de libertés 😉
Je n'apprécie pas trop non plus l'obligation de guide mais pourrait plus facilement l'accepter que certaines lois ou modes de fonctionnement. Maintenant, obliger d'avoir un guide c'est déjà limitant de libertés 😉
Cela fait partie des modes de fonctionnement que j'aurais trop de mal à supporter ....🤪
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Cela fait partie des modes de fonctionnement que j'aurais trop de mal à supporter ....🤪
Sawadee krap
Perso je ne suis pas totalement contre, sourires :
https://youtu.be/02VV0AEBxj0
Sawadee krap
Perso je ne suis pas totalement contre, sourires :
https://youtu.be/02VV0AEBxj0
He bien pour nous? ma femme est comme moi! ce sont les pays Asiatiques Peut- etre un préjugé? mais ils ne nous attirent pas. Particulièrement les populations. Beaucoup de personnes ont essayé maintes fois de nous convaincre, c'est perdu d'avance; Nous avons pourtant regardés pas mal de reports à ce sujet, et bien à chaque fois c'est pareil, opinion négative. Voila, peut-être qu'un jour nous changerons d'avis, qui sait? Mais avant d'aller là bas nous avons encore pas mal de voyages à faire ailleurs
Pareil en ce qui concerne les pays asiatiques... je pense que c'est une question de feeling. On s'est toujours senti bcp mieux en Amérique Latine. Alors je ne dis pas qu'on n'ira jamais, mais on a bcp d'autres destinations à visiter avant 😉
Faby
Pareil en ce qui concerne les pays asiatiques... je pense que c'est une question de feeling. On s'est toujours senti bcp mieux en Amérique Latine. Alors je ne dis pas qu'on n'ira jamais, mais on a bcp d'autres destinations à visiter avant 😉
Tout comme vous, l'Amérique Latine m'attire bien plus que l'Asie ! Je crois qu'en effet au-delà des préjugés c'est surtout une question de goût, d'attirance... heureusement qu'on n'a pas tous les mêmes gouts sinon ce serait triste !
Tout comme vous, l'Amérique Latine m'attire bien plus que l'Asie ! Je crois qu'en effet au-delà des préjugés c'est surtout une question de goût, d'attirance... heureusement qu'on n'a pas tous les mêmes gouts sinon ce serait triste !
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Bonjour,
heureusement qu'on n'a pas tous les mêmes gouts sinon ce serait triste !
Je suis bien d’accord avec toi pour dire "heureusement que tous les voyageurs-touristes qui existent au monde, n’ont pas les mêmes goûts" mais pour une autre raison, qui serait beaucoup plus d’ordre pratique !
Peux-tu imaginer un seul instant quel pourrait être le joyeux bazar, si tous les touristes de la terre ne se mettraient plus qu'à avoir un seul et unique but de voyage dans leur vie, comme par exemple celui de vouloir à tout prix découvrir... New-York ?! 😮
D’après un récent article publié par l’UNWTO (l’organisation mondiale du tourisme, qui regroupe 156 états membres) c’est en effet plus de 1,1 milliard de touristes qui en 2014 se sont déplacés d’un pays à l’autre. (Une croissance de 3 à 4 % est prévue par ce même organisme pour l’année 2015)
D’après mon assez loufoque hypothèse de départ selon laquelle tout le monde sur terre aurait les mêmes goûts de voyage, cela nous ferait donc plus d’1 milliard de personnes voulant se rendre absolument à New-York ?! 🤪 Remarque bien que d’un point de vue strictement personnel, cela pourrait bien drôlement m’arranger. Car s’il n’existe à vrai dire aucun pays au monde qui ne m’intéresse pas du tout (ce qui sera ainsi ma réponse à la question posée par l’initiatrice de ce post)… il y a bien cependant quelques grandes villes qui dans le monde ne m’attirent absolument pas et où je ne mettrais probablement jamais les pieds, et justement... New-York en fait partie (inutile de me demander pourquoi, sans doute une question de préjugés largement assumés) ! 😏
Waouh... j’aurais ainsi le reste du monde entier pour moi tout seul ! 😎
Marco
heureusement qu'on n'a pas tous les mêmes gouts sinon ce serait triste !
Je suis bien d’accord avec toi pour dire "heureusement que tous les voyageurs-touristes qui existent au monde, n’ont pas les mêmes goûts" mais pour une autre raison, qui serait beaucoup plus d’ordre pratique !
Peux-tu imaginer un seul instant quel pourrait être le joyeux bazar, si tous les touristes de la terre ne se mettraient plus qu'à avoir un seul et unique but de voyage dans leur vie, comme par exemple celui de vouloir à tout prix découvrir... New-York ?! 😮
D’après un récent article publié par l’UNWTO (l’organisation mondiale du tourisme, qui regroupe 156 états membres) c’est en effet plus de 1,1 milliard de touristes qui en 2014 se sont déplacés d’un pays à l’autre. (Une croissance de 3 à 4 % est prévue par ce même organisme pour l’année 2015)
D’après mon assez loufoque hypothèse de départ selon laquelle tout le monde sur terre aurait les mêmes goûts de voyage, cela nous ferait donc plus d’1 milliard de personnes voulant se rendre absolument à New-York ?! 🤪 Remarque bien que d’un point de vue strictement personnel, cela pourrait bien drôlement m’arranger. Car s’il n’existe à vrai dire aucun pays au monde qui ne m’intéresse pas du tout (ce qui sera ainsi ma réponse à la question posée par l’initiatrice de ce post)… il y a bien cependant quelques grandes villes qui dans le monde ne m’attirent absolument pas et où je ne mettrais probablement jamais les pieds, et justement... New-York en fait partie (inutile de me demander pourquoi, sans doute une question de préjugés largement assumés) ! 😏
Waouh... j’aurais ainsi le reste du monde entier pour moi tout seul ! 😎
Marco
j’aurais ainsi le reste du monde entier pour moi tout seul !
Robinson Crusoé a fini par s'emmerder grave sur son île...
Robinson Crusoé a fini par s'emmerder grave sur son île...
...d'où la venue de " Vendredi "...
aucun pays ne m'interresse pas du tout
mais je retourne souvent en Afrique car j'ai eu des supers coups de cœur pour ce continent (paysages, populations, vie quotidienne ect); parfois je me mets à essayer de rêver à d'autres pays, d'autres circuits, (j'y arrive )... mais rapidement ... je retombe sur l'Afrique !
sinon, si j'avais et le temps et l'argent, tout tout tout "m'interresse" ! (quitte à dire après coup que je n'ai pas aimé).
mais je retourne souvent en Afrique car j'ai eu des supers coups de cœur pour ce continent (paysages, populations, vie quotidienne ect); parfois je me mets à essayer de rêver à d'autres pays, d'autres circuits, (j'y arrive )... mais rapidement ... je retombe sur l'Afrique !
sinon, si j'avais et le temps et l'argent, tout tout tout "m'interresse" ! (quitte à dire après coup que je n'ai pas aimé).
tout tout tout "m'interresse" ! (quitte à dire après coup que je n'ai pas aimé).
Même les US?😏 http://voyageforum.com/discussion/attrait-new-york-ouest-americain-incroyable-d7068721/
Même les US?😏 http://voyageforum.com/discussion/attrait-new-york-ouest-americain-incroyable-d7068721/
tout tout tout "m'interresse" ! (quitte à dire après coup que je n'ai pas aimé).
Même les US?😏 http://voyageforum.com/discussion/attrait-new-york-ouest-americain-incroyable-d7068721/
😉😉
Même les US?😏 http://voyageforum.com/discussion/attrait-new-york-ouest-americain-incroyable-d7068721/
😉😉
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
pourquoi donc me renvoyez vous à cette longue discussion ? je l'ai parcouru "en diagonale" en me demandant si je n'étais pas intervenue dans et échange ... et bien non.
donc, oui, tous les pays, à un titre ou à un autre, m'interressent.
c'est si bizarre, ou bien est-il de bon ton de dire les USA : jamais ....
donc oui, mêmes les USA u la russie de Poutine, ou la Chine de j'saisplussonnom
donc, oui, tous les pays, à un titre ou à un autre, m'interressent.
c'est si bizarre, ou bien est-il de bon ton de dire les USA : jamais ....
donc oui, mêmes les USA u la russie de Poutine, ou la Chine de j'saisplussonnom
pourquoi donc me renvoyez vous à cette longue discussion ?
Oh c'est juste parce que c'est mouvementé et que cette dernière discussion ici s'épuise un peu! Et puis aussi, par le fait que comme moi tu aimes l'Afrique!
Oh c'est juste parce que c'est mouvementé et que cette dernière discussion ici s'épuise un peu! Et puis aussi, par le fait que comme moi tu aimes l'Afrique!
oui je retombe toujours sur mes pieds .... en Afrique que j'aime vraiment beaucoup.
mais je pourrais voyager sans me soucier de mon budget (donc sans avoir à opérer des choix), je suis curieuse du monde. les grandes métropoles américaines me tentent bien, leurs splendides montagnes et autres paysages, le sud, .... j'irais bien.
mais je suis obligée de faire des choix, et mon grand plaisir, c'est l'Afrique. alors j'y retournerai ....😉
ce qui me plait aussi : être au delà de ma zone de confort et me laisser "prendre au jeu" de l'inattendu, essayer de comprendre ce qui semble incompréhensible, changer sur le monde mes angles de vues. donc, dans ce sens là, aucun pays n'est dans ma tête ostracisé.
voili voilou
mais je pourrais voyager sans me soucier de mon budget (donc sans avoir à opérer des choix), je suis curieuse du monde. les grandes métropoles américaines me tentent bien, leurs splendides montagnes et autres paysages, le sud, .... j'irais bien.
mais je suis obligée de faire des choix, et mon grand plaisir, c'est l'Afrique. alors j'y retournerai ....😉
ce qui me plait aussi : être au delà de ma zone de confort et me laisser "prendre au jeu" de l'inattendu, essayer de comprendre ce qui semble incompréhensible, changer sur le monde mes angles de vues. donc, dans ce sens là, aucun pays n'est dans ma tête ostracisé.
voili voilou
Les pays en guerre, Libye, Syrie...
Mais je n'hésiterai pas à y aller une fois qu'ils retrouvent la stabilité.
C'est dommage qu'une personne ne soit pas DU TOUT intéressée par un coin de ce monde et c'est désolant et décevant de voir que son raisonnement est basé sur des préjugés.. à bon entendeur, salut
Bonjour,
Je comprends que qq'un ait envie d'attendre que la stabilité soit garantie avant d'aller en un pays venant de vivre une guerre ou des troubles internes ou un changement de régime ou une catastrophe... 😉
Ce n'est pas forcément lié à des préjugés mais peut-être lié à sa conception de la sécurité, sérénité, tranquillité...
Je comprends que qq'un ait envie d'attendre que la stabilité soit garantie avant d'aller en un pays venant de vivre une guerre ou des troubles internes ou un changement de régime ou une catastrophe... 😉
Ce n'est pas forcément lié à des préjugés mais peut-être lié à sa conception de la sécurité, sérénité, tranquillité...
Bonsoir!
je tombe sur ce fil, et comme Cambrousse, je n'ai pas de pays qui ne m'intéresse pas.
"Partir en vacances" nous fait choisir, par affinité, en général. On a un budget, un laps de temps à respecter. On doit se reposer (en changeant d'air), alors là, oui, on choisit sa destination. Et choisir, c'est éliminer. On préférera aller ici, plutôt que là-bas.
"Voyager" implique une ouverture d'esprit qui ne peut pas se borner à l'intérêt.
De partout à travers le monde, les gens vivent, partagent, aiment, rient, accueillent.
Chaque pays à son histoire, ses monuments, ses coutumes, sa cuisine, son art.
On peut effectivement aimer, ou ne pas aimer, à postériori, mais l'a-priori ne reflète que les lacunes de sa propre connaissance.
Je concède volontiers que la "crainte" de certaines destinations puisse se justifier vu les tensions véhiculées par les media (et souvent amplifiées). On peut craindre d'aller au Pakistan en ce moment, mais pas forcement par manque d'intérêt (je parle pour moi, là!)
Finalement, la curiosité reste un joli défaut...
Bonsoir
Je tombe tout à fait par hasard sur cette discussion et moi aussi je ne connais pas de pays où je ne veux pas aller. Un voyageur, routard de plus, doit être en principe curieux de nature, curieux de tout ce qu'on peut voir ou rencontrer en voyage et ne pas se fier aux images que nous envoie les médias. Alors s'il y a un pays tout plat avec que des plages et sans aucune culture alors oui je n'ai pas envie d'y aller les Seychelles par exemple quoique .....
Cordialement
Bernard
Un message de St Exupéry: "faites que vos rêves dévorent votre vie afin que vos vies ne dévorent pas vos rêves"
Bonsoir
Je tombe tout à fait par hasard sur cette discussion et moi aussi je ne connais pas de pays où je ne veux pas aller. Un voyageur, routard de plus, doit être en principe curieux de nature, curieux de tout ce qu'on peut voir ou rencontrer en voyage et ne pas se fier aux images que nous envoie les médias. Alors s'il y a un pays tout plat avec que des plages et sans aucune culture alors oui je n'ai pas envie d'y aller les Seychelles par exemple quoique .....
Cordialement
Bernard
même Tromelin, avec son km², plat, vide, loin dans nos TAAF, que du sable, 3 cocotiers et des oiseaux..ben, j'aimerai bien y aller... quand le Marion-Dufresne baissera son prix (on peut rever)! 😉
même Tromelin, avec son km², plat, vide, loin dans nos TAAF, que du sable, 3 cocotiers et des oiseaux..ben, j'aimerai bien y aller... quand le Marion-Dufresne baissera son prix (on peut rever)! 😉
Alors s'il y a un pays tout plat avec que des plages et sans aucune culture alors oui je n'ai pas envie d'y aller les Seychelles par exemple quoique .....
Je confirme, il y a plein de belles choses à voir aux Seychelles, en plus des plages de rêve... 😎
Je confirme, il y a plein de belles choses à voir aux Seychelles, en plus des plages de rêve... 😎
Faby
Bonjour,
Je te rejoins dans l'idée que le fait de choisir de ne pas aller dans un endroit/pays soit, pour ma part, lié à une non envie, un non intérêt personnel plus qu'à un non-amour sans connaître. Comment savoir si j'aime ou pas sans connaître...
Il est des endroits où je n'ai aucune envie d'aller car ne correspondant pas à mes centres d'intérêts - comme les très grands villes (même si je suis déjà allée dans certaines).
D'autres où je n'irai pas car les modes organisationnels, fonctionnels du pays ne me conviennent pas et que je n'ai aucune envie de les respecter même temporairement et cela en dépit des éléments pouvant m'intéresser dans la culture, les monuments, la géographie...
Quand nous choisissons la prochaine destination de voyage, nous combinons envies des deux, possibles financiers, temps disponible... Nous éliminons les destinations ne nous faisant pas envie même si à d'autres elles plaisent énormément.
Voyager est un de nos loisirs/plaisirs 😉
Je te rejoins dans l'idée que le fait de choisir de ne pas aller dans un endroit/pays soit, pour ma part, lié à une non envie, un non intérêt personnel plus qu'à un non-amour sans connaître. Comment savoir si j'aime ou pas sans connaître...
Il est des endroits où je n'ai aucune envie d'aller car ne correspondant pas à mes centres d'intérêts - comme les très grands villes (même si je suis déjà allée dans certaines).
D'autres où je n'irai pas car les modes organisationnels, fonctionnels du pays ne me conviennent pas et que je n'ai aucune envie de les respecter même temporairement et cela en dépit des éléments pouvant m'intéresser dans la culture, les monuments, la géographie...
Quand nous choisissons la prochaine destination de voyage, nous combinons envies des deux, possibles financiers, temps disponible... Nous éliminons les destinations ne nous faisant pas envie même si à d'autres elles plaisent énormément.
Voyager est un de nos loisirs/plaisirs 😉
Bonjour Madikéra,
message recu 5/5!
Nous partageons les mêmes idéaux et la même perception de ce qu'un voyage doit être.
quelques réflexions à la lecture des différents intervenants
-les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres , ce qu'ils ne font pas en france ; je suppose qu'en afrique ou en inde, entre autres , il y a des beaux quartiers où vivent les riches et des quartiers corrects où vivent les classes moyennes, mais ça ne les interesse pas ; un peu comme ceux qui voient les infractions au code de la route à l'étranger mais pas en france.
- les français cherchent le sale dans les pays réputés à tort où à raison sales , mais pas chez eux ; moi je fais parfois le contraire : si on se met à chercher du sale en suisse , on en trouve ( mégots , chewing gum ou papiers sur les trottoirs , ça se trouve )
-le PIB national ne reflète pas le niveau de vie individuel ; il faut descendre à une echelle plus basse , il faudrait même descendre au niveau du quartier ; exemple : la france a un PIB /hab supérieur au portugal ; mais lisbonne a un PIB/hab supérieur à la creuse ou à l'ariège ;ça me rappelle le français de beziers qui cherchait de la misère à barcelone où le niveau de vie est beaucoup plus élevé qu'à beziers
sinon pour répondre à la question je n'ai aucun a priori , sauf le danger extrème ( afghanistan , syrie , par exemple )mais je ne sortirais probablement jamais d'europe car un voyage ne m'interesse pas sans voir le parcours entre chez moi et la destination, donc je ne voyage qu'en voiture :
quelques réflexions à la lecture des différents intervenants
-les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres , ce qu'ils ne font pas en france ; je suppose qu'en afrique ou en inde, entre autres , il y a des beaux quartiers où vivent les riches et des quartiers corrects où vivent les classes moyennes, mais ça ne les interesse pas ; un peu comme ceux qui voient les infractions au code de la route à l'étranger mais pas en france.
- les français cherchent le sale dans les pays réputés à tort où à raison sales , mais pas chez eux ; moi je fais parfois le contraire : si on se met à chercher du sale en suisse , on en trouve ( mégots , chewing gum ou papiers sur les trottoirs , ça se trouve )
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Voilà une façon très restreinte de voir les choses .
La réalité est plutôt que beaucoup vont voir d'autres façons de vivre , quitte à voir aussi de la pauvreté et de la saleté .
Voilà une façon très restreinte de voir les choses .
La réalité est plutôt que beaucoup vont voir d'autres façons de vivre , quitte à voir aussi de la pauvreté et de la saleté .
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
pas besoin de voyager pour ça : si on est riche on va visiter la courneuve , si on est pauvre on va visiter neuilly
Ah bon , si tu le dis 🤪
"La vie est un voyage qui se vit au présent ou jamais ...."
Bonjour Michel,
Chaucune, chacun vit les choses à sa manière, je suis peu fan des généralisations... La raison première de nos voyages n'est pas d'aller à la rencontre des gens mais bcp plus d'aller découvrir de nouveaux paysages et changer de ce que le quotidien nous fait vivre.
Donc, je ne vais pas ailleurs pour voir des plus pauvres que ceux que je côtoies autour de moi. Pas plus que je n'y vais pour rechercher plus de saletés qu je peux en trouver sur mon île, même si je les voies et m'en désole. Régulièrement je râle contre celles et ceux jetant des cannettes en bord de route ou partant de la plage en abandonnant leurs déchets. Il y a un site dédié à cela: www.aretesa.fr/
Une des raisons qui nous a régulièrement poussés à aller en Amérique du Sud (là où il peut y avoir des bcp plus riches qu'autour de moi, en plus des plus pauvres), c'est le différentiel de coût de la vie. Nous avons pu nous y payer des voyages, durant plusieurs semaines, que nous n'aurions pas pu nous offrir dans des pays plus coûteux... 🤪
Sans avion, je tournerai un peu en rond dans mon île, donc... 😉
Chaucune, chacun vit les choses à sa manière, je suis peu fan des généralisations... La raison première de nos voyages n'est pas d'aller à la rencontre des gens mais bcp plus d'aller découvrir de nouveaux paysages et changer de ce que le quotidien nous fait vivre.
Donc, je ne vais pas ailleurs pour voir des plus pauvres que ceux que je côtoies autour de moi. Pas plus que je n'y vais pour rechercher plus de saletés qu je peux en trouver sur mon île, même si je les voies et m'en désole. Régulièrement je râle contre celles et ceux jetant des cannettes en bord de route ou partant de la plage en abandonnant leurs déchets. Il y a un site dédié à cela: www.aretesa.fr/
Une des raisons qui nous a régulièrement poussés à aller en Amérique du Sud (là où il peut y avoir des bcp plus riches qu'autour de moi, en plus des plus pauvres), c'est le différentiel de coût de la vie. Nous avons pu nous y payer des voyages, durant plusieurs semaines, que nous n'aurions pas pu nous offrir dans des pays plus coûteux... 🤪
Sans avion, je tournerai un peu en rond dans mon île, donc... 😉
Une des raisons qui nous a régulièrement poussés à aller en Amérique du Sud (là où il peut y avoir des bcp plus riches qu'autour de moi, en plus des plus pauvres), c'est le différentiel de coût de la vie.
Je n'ai pas trouvé l'Amérique du Sud spécialement bon marché. Nettement moins que l'Asie.
De plus, pour un continental, le prix du billet d'avion fait que cette destination est extrêmement onéreuse pour un voyage en période scolaire.
Je n'ai pas trouvé l'Amérique du Sud spécialement bon marché. Nettement moins que l'Asie.
De plus, pour un continental, le prix du billet d'avion fait que cette destination est extrêmement onéreuse pour un voyage en période scolaire.
Bonjour,
Comme dit les vécus sont individuels et dépendent des choix de chacune, chacun et des points de départ... 😉
Nous concernant, aller en Amérique du Sud, ce fut pdt longtemps (c'est moins simple maintenant) une série de petits vols revenant moins cher qu'un transatlantique pour l'Europe. Si nous devons enchaîner avec un autre vol cela augmente encore la dépense. L'été dernier aller en Namibie, nous a coûté 3 000 euros de vols, par exemple.
Quand nous faisions (je dis faisions car notre dernier voyage en AmduSud remonte à 2012) des comparatifs entre ce que nous dépensions, chez nous, ou en Europe ou ailleurs, pour un hébergement, un dîner au resto... cela nous est toujours revenu moins cher en AmduSud et parfois nous avons pu nous offrir des excursions de luxe, comme aux Esteros del Iberra en Argentine, grâce au "faible coût" du reste du voyage...
Il est certain qu'en Europe, il est des pays aux coûts moyens (hôtel, resto... dans le style que nous recherchons) moins chers que d'autres...
Après, nous ne choisissons pas uniquement une destination par rapport aux coûts/budgets. Les zones très peuplées ne nous attirent pas et même si elles nous demandaient un budget moindre qu'ailleurs nous n'y irons pas... 😉
Comme dit les vécus sont individuels et dépendent des choix de chacune, chacun et des points de départ... 😉
Nous concernant, aller en Amérique du Sud, ce fut pdt longtemps (c'est moins simple maintenant) une série de petits vols revenant moins cher qu'un transatlantique pour l'Europe. Si nous devons enchaîner avec un autre vol cela augmente encore la dépense. L'été dernier aller en Namibie, nous a coûté 3 000 euros de vols, par exemple.
Quand nous faisions (je dis faisions car notre dernier voyage en AmduSud remonte à 2012) des comparatifs entre ce que nous dépensions, chez nous, ou en Europe ou ailleurs, pour un hébergement, un dîner au resto... cela nous est toujours revenu moins cher en AmduSud et parfois nous avons pu nous offrir des excursions de luxe, comme aux Esteros del Iberra en Argentine, grâce au "faible coût" du reste du voyage...
Il est certain qu'en Europe, il est des pays aux coûts moyens (hôtel, resto... dans le style que nous recherchons) moins chers que d'autres...
Après, nous ne choisissons pas uniquement une destination par rapport aux coûts/budgets. Les zones très peuplées ne nous attirent pas et même si elles nous demandaient un budget moindre qu'ailleurs nous n'y irons pas... 😉
Bonjour,
d'habitude, on peut vous lire sur le Forum Italie: "L'Italie, c'est formidable."
Quelques réflexions à la lecture des différents intervenants -les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Personnellement, je ne comprends pas l'intérêt d'un tel propos et que savez-vous des motivations des français (non pauvres ou non riches d'ailleurs😎) qui passent une frontière ?
ça me rappelle le français de beziers qui cherchait de la misère à barcelone où le niveau de vie est beaucoup plus élevé que beziers
Je comprends toujours pas.🤪 Et pourtant je suis pas de Béziers😎: Parce qu'à Barcelone, y'a pas de gens pauvres ? voire de la misère ? (vous ne connaissez pas Barcelone ou si peu.).
d'habitude, on peut vous lire sur le Forum Italie: "L'Italie, c'est formidable."
Quelques réflexions à la lecture des différents intervenants -les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Personnellement, je ne comprends pas l'intérêt d'un tel propos et que savez-vous des motivations des français (non pauvres ou non riches d'ailleurs😎) qui passent une frontière ?
ça me rappelle le français de beziers qui cherchait de la misère à barcelone où le niveau de vie est beaucoup plus élevé que beziers
Je comprends toujours pas.🤪 Et pourtant je suis pas de Béziers😎: Parce qu'à Barcelone, y'a pas de gens pauvres ? voire de la misère ? (vous ne connaissez pas Barcelone ou si peu.).
Jean-Luc
Je comprends toujours pas.🤪 Et pourtant je suis pas de Béziers😎:
Parce qu'à Barcelone, y'a pas de gens pauvres ? voire de la misère ? (vous ne connaissez pas Barcelone ou si peu.).
Justement, Béziers est une ville beaucoup plus pauvre que Barcelone. C'est donc drôle qu'un habitant de Béziers fasse des kilomètres pour voir des pauvres* alors qu'il lui suffit de faire 1km dans sa ville pour en voir plein (des pauvres). 😄
* Le mec a surement pensé ça : Espagne, pays plus pauvre que la France + Barcelone, ville espagnol = Barcelone, ville plus pauvre que Béziers.
Justement, Béziers est une ville beaucoup plus pauvre que Barcelone. C'est donc drôle qu'un habitant de Béziers fasse des kilomètres pour voir des pauvres* alors qu'il lui suffit de faire 1km dans sa ville pour en voir plein (des pauvres). 😄
* Le mec a surement pensé ça : Espagne, pays plus pauvre que la France + Barcelone, ville espagnol = Barcelone, ville plus pauvre que Béziers.
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
Récits de mes voyages : http://les-voyages-andre.blogspot.fr/
Récits de mes voyages : http://les-voyages-andre.blogspot.fr/
les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Ha bon ? Ceux qui vont aux Etats-Unis, au Japon, en Grande-Bretagne, en Scandinavie, au Canada, en Italie ou en Espagne, vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres ?
Quelle série de clichés assez grotesques quand même. A moins que ce ne soit du second degré...
Ha bon ? Ceux qui vont aux Etats-Unis, au Japon, en Grande-Bretagne, en Scandinavie, au Canada, en Italie ou en Espagne, vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres ?
Quelle série de clichés assez grotesques quand même. A moins que ce ne soit du second degré...
Moi non plus, je ne connais personne qui voyage "pour voir des pauvres ", ou des pays sales, sinon c’est grave ! J’ose esperer qu’on attend autre chose d’un voyage ou alors c’est du voyeurisme 😐!
ms64
Il répond ça à la personne qui est triste de voir des pays pauvre perdre les "authenticité" (comprendre, leur façon de vivre actuel qui consiste à vivre dans la misère comme en Inde, Vietnam, etc...).
Un peu comme si un martien était triste que les français ne vivent plus comme au moyen-âge. Comme si la France authentique, c'était comme quand on vivaient au 14ème siècle. 😄
Un peu comme si un martien était triste que les français ne vivent plus comme au moyen-âge. Comme si la France authentique, c'était comme quand on vivaient au 14ème siècle. 😄
"Un bivouac c'est un peu comme le dépucelage et la première cuite, une espèce de rite qui fais de toi un homme" (MonsieurHenri du site randonner-léger.org).
Récits de mes voyages : http://les-voyages-andre.blogspot.fr/
Récits de mes voyages : http://les-voyages-andre.blogspot.fr/
merci André de m'avoir compris , contrairement à d'autres
je parlais me semble t-il des reflexioons que m'inspire cette discussion , et je persiste : les français qui sont allés en inde et en afrique et qui sont intervenus dans cette discussion semblent n'être allés voir que les quartiers pauvres de ces pays ce qui suppose que c'est ça qui les interesse , alors que le français non parisien qui visite paris va plutôt sur les champs qu'à la goutte d'or ou à la courneuve
les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Ha bon ? Ceux qui vont aux Etats-Unis, au Japon, en Grande-Bretagne, en Scandinavie, au Canada, en Italie ou en Espagne, vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres ?
Quelle série de clichés assez grotesques quand même. A moins que ce ne soit du second degré...
les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Ha bon ? Ceux qui vont aux Etats-Unis, au Japon, en Grande-Bretagne, en Scandinavie, au Canada, en Italie ou en Espagne, vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres ?
Quelle série de clichés assez grotesques quand même. A moins que ce ne soit du second degré...
je parlais me semble t-il des reflexioons que m'inspire cette discussion, et je persiste : les français qui sont allés en inde et en afrique et qui sont intervenus dans cette discussion semblent n'être allés voir que les quartiers pauvres de ces pays ce qui suppose que c'est ça qui les interesse, alors que le français non parisien qui visite paris va plutôt sur les champs qu'à la goutte d'or ou à la courneuve
Je pense que ceux qui visitent les pays "pauvres" le font avant tout pour une question économique : un séjour en Inde coûte nettement moins cher qu'un séjour au Japon, tout en étant aussi dépaysant (bien qu'en ce qui me concerne, je préfère mille fois un séjour au Japon...).
Je ne pense pas que ceux qui vont dans les pays pauvres recherchent spécialement à voir la pauvreté pour autant. C'est un raccourci fâcheux à mon avis.
Je pense que ceux qui visitent les pays "pauvres" le font avant tout pour une question économique : un séjour en Inde coûte nettement moins cher qu'un séjour au Japon, tout en étant aussi dépaysant (bien qu'en ce qui me concerne, je préfère mille fois un séjour au Japon...).
Je ne pense pas que ceux qui vont dans les pays pauvres recherchent spécialement à voir la pauvreté pour autant. C'est un raccourci fâcheux à mon avis.
si vous trouvez un récit de voyage en inde où on nous montre les beaux quartiers des villes ( au sens parisien de l'expression ) , merci de me donner le lien parce que je n'en ai jamais lu
je parlais me semble t-il des reflexioons que m'inspire cette discussion, et je persiste : les français qui sont allés en inde et en afrique et qui sont intervenus dans cette discussion semblent n'être allés voir que les quartiers pauvres de ces pays ce qui suppose que c'est ça qui les interesse, alors que le français non parisien qui visite paris va plutôt sur les champs qu'à la goutte d'or ou à la courneuve
Je pense que ceux qui visitent les pays "pauvres" le font avant tout pour une question économique : un séjour en Inde coûte nettement moins cher qu'un séjour au Japon, tout en étant aussi dépaysant (bien qu'en ce qui me concerne, je préfère mille fois un séjour au Japon...).
Je ne pense pas que ceux qui vont dans les pays pauvres recherchent spécialement à voir la pauvreté pour autant. C'est un raccourci fâcheux à mon avis.
je parlais me semble t-il des reflexioons que m'inspire cette discussion, et je persiste : les français qui sont allés en inde et en afrique et qui sont intervenus dans cette discussion semblent n'être allés voir que les quartiers pauvres de ces pays ce qui suppose que c'est ça qui les interesse, alors que le français non parisien qui visite paris va plutôt sur les champs qu'à la goutte d'or ou à la courneuve
Je pense que ceux qui visitent les pays "pauvres" le font avant tout pour une question économique : un séjour en Inde coûte nettement moins cher qu'un séjour au Japon, tout en étant aussi dépaysant (bien qu'en ce qui me concerne, je préfère mille fois un séjour au Japon...).
Je ne pense pas que ceux qui vont dans les pays pauvres recherchent spécialement à voir la pauvreté pour autant. C'est un raccourci fâcheux à mon avis.
si vous trouvez un récit de voyage en inde où on nous montre les beaux quartiers des villes (au sens parisien de l'expression), merci de me donner le lien parce que je n'en ai jamais lu
On ne va pas en Inde pour ses "beaux quartiers" qui, globalement, n'existent pas (surtout pas au sens parisien de l'expression). Ce n'est pas pour ça que l'on recherche à voir la pauvreté, ça n'a aucun sens...
On ne va pas en Inde pour ses "beaux quartiers" qui, globalement, n'existent pas (surtout pas au sens parisien de l'expression). Ce n'est pas pour ça que l'on recherche à voir la pauvreté, ça n'a aucun sens...
mittaj, tata , la famille gandhi , les patrons de grandes et moyennes entreprises , les cadres , les chirurgiens , les professions liberales , les gros commerçants , ils ont leurs maisons au milieu des bidonvilles ?
mittaj, tata, la famille gandhi, les patrons de grandes et moyennes entreprises, les cadres, les chirurgiens, les professions liberales, les gros commerçants, ils ont leurs maisons au milieu des bidonvilles ?
Pas dans les bidonvilles précisément, mais dans la "jungle" des villes indiennes, toutes classes confondues... devant les villas des stars de Bollywood à Bombay, c'est la misère, le bruit, la saleté. Tu y serais allé tu le saurais, plutôt que de vivre par procuration...
Au passage, je ne connais aucun touriste qui irait en Inde pour aller au cœur des bidonvilles...
Pas dans les bidonvilles précisément, mais dans la "jungle" des villes indiennes, toutes classes confondues... devant les villas des stars de Bollywood à Bombay, c'est la misère, le bruit, la saleté. Tu y serais allé tu le saurais, plutôt que de vivre par procuration...
Au passage, je ne connais aucun touriste qui irait en Inde pour aller au cœur des bidonvilles...
Moi non plus, je ne connais personne qui voyage "pour voir des pauvres ", ou des pays sales, sinon c’est grave ! J’ose esperer qu’on attend autre chose d’un voyage ou alors c’est du voyeurisme 😐!
Pareil !
D'ailleurs je préfère voir des pays propres, qui ne sont d'ailleurs pas toujours plus riches que la France... dans les ex pays communistes par ex, c'est globalement propres (pas de poubelles qui débordent ou de rues jonchées de papiers gras) et sécuritaires, plus qu'en France, pourtant le niveau de vie est plus bas...
Il est vrai qu'il y a des pays intéressants, comme l'Inde, puisqu'on en parle, mais entre la saleté, l'hygiène on va dire... différente, la foule, je suis pas près d'y aller (pourtant j'aimerais bien voir le Taj Mahal ou autres palais, temples, etc). Partir pour passer son temps aux chiottes avec la tourista, rien que ça, c'est rédhibitoire... (c'est qu'en vieillissant mon estomac devient sensible...)
Par contre aucun pays ne m'intéresse pas du tout, dans l'absolu il y a un intérêt partout, ne serait-ce que pour se dépayser et voir comment vivent les gens d'un pays. Après entre les conditions et le coût, il y a des endroits où je ne pense pas aller, du moins pas de sitôt. Et bien sûr chacun ses préférences, perso je suis plus attirée par l'Amérique latine que par l'Asie, pour différentes raisons, ce qui ne veut pas dire que l'Asie ne m'attire pas du tout non plus.
Pareil !
D'ailleurs je préfère voir des pays propres, qui ne sont d'ailleurs pas toujours plus riches que la France... dans les ex pays communistes par ex, c'est globalement propres (pas de poubelles qui débordent ou de rues jonchées de papiers gras) et sécuritaires, plus qu'en France, pourtant le niveau de vie est plus bas...
Il est vrai qu'il y a des pays intéressants, comme l'Inde, puisqu'on en parle, mais entre la saleté, l'hygiène on va dire... différente, la foule, je suis pas près d'y aller (pourtant j'aimerais bien voir le Taj Mahal ou autres palais, temples, etc). Partir pour passer son temps aux chiottes avec la tourista, rien que ça, c'est rédhibitoire... (c'est qu'en vieillissant mon estomac devient sensible...)
Par contre aucun pays ne m'intéresse pas du tout, dans l'absolu il y a un intérêt partout, ne serait-ce que pour se dépayser et voir comment vivent les gens d'un pays. Après entre les conditions et le coût, il y a des endroits où je ne pense pas aller, du moins pas de sitôt. Et bien sûr chacun ses préférences, perso je suis plus attirée par l'Amérique latine que par l'Asie, pour différentes raisons, ce qui ne veut pas dire que l'Asie ne m'attire pas du tout non plus.
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
je parlais me semble t-il des reflexioons que m'inspire cette discussion , et je persiste : les français qui sont allés en inde et en afrique et qui sont intervenus dans cette discussion semblent n'être allés voir que les quartiers pauvres de ces pays ce qui suppose que c'est ça qui les interesse , alors que le français non parisien qui visite paris va plutôt sur les champs qu'à la goutte d'or ou à la courneuve
les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Ha bon ? Ceux qui vont aux Etats-Unis, au Japon, en Grande-Bretagne, en Scandinavie, au Canada, en Italie ou en Espagne, vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres ?
Quelle série de clichés assez grotesques quand même. A moins que ce ne soit du second degré...
Bah je dirais que si on a le temps, voir les deux est intéressant 😛
les français non pauvres puisqu'ils peuvent voyager vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres, ce qu'ils ne font pas en france
Ha bon ? Ceux qui vont aux Etats-Unis, au Japon, en Grande-Bretagne, en Scandinavie, au Canada, en Italie ou en Espagne, vont à l'étranger pour voir des pauvres et des quartiers pauvres ?
Quelle série de clichés assez grotesques quand même. A moins que ce ne soit du second degré...
Bah je dirais que si on a le temps, voir les deux est intéressant 😛
http://www.lasourisglobe-trotteuse.fr/
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Des milliers de photos et plein de conseils d'une souris pour voyager low-cost en Europe et hors des sentiers battus
Curieux, cette réflexion...
Je ne suis jamais allée en Inde, mais les images qui me viennent de ce pays sont forcément un brassage de clichés : foule colorée, baigneurs au bord du Gange, palais des Maharadjah. D'ailleurs beaucoup de circuits organisés au Rajasthan sont axés pour visiter ces palais, pas pour aller voir les bidonvilles ! Idem pour l'Afrique, on y va pour voir ses paysages, ou ses parcs animaliers ou pour rencontrer ses habitants.
Je ne suis jamais allée en Inde, mais les images qui me viennent de ce pays sont forcément un brassage de clichés : foule colorée, baigneurs au bord du Gange, palais des Maharadjah. D'ailleurs beaucoup de circuits organisés au Rajasthan sont axés pour visiter ces palais, pas pour aller voir les bidonvilles ! Idem pour l'Afrique, on y va pour voir ses paysages, ou ses parcs animaliers ou pour rencontrer ses habitants.
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
Yes, je découvre aujourd'hui seulement ce sujet, 15 pages à lire et une énorme bagarre ! 😛 Pour une fois je peux donner ici une opinion pour laquelle on m'a traitée de tous les noms sur d'autres post. en plus j'habite (près de) Béziers - où, quelqu'un l'a dit, il y a plein de "pauvres" 😉 - et certes je n'ai pas envie de partir en vacances et en voyage pour voir la pauvreté, la saleté, la misère, le manque d'hygiène, les maladies, les morts sur la route ou des choses immondes flottant dans le fleuve, avec l'impossibilité de communiquer correctement et l'impression de cautionner des coutumes barbares etc. Donc pour moi c'est en premier l'Inde qui ne me fait nullement rêver. Point barre. Ensuite la Chine et la Corée du nord, les pays d'Europe de l'est style Lituanie (pas attirants du tout), certains pays d'Afrique (pas tous) et en règle générale les contrées où l'islam règne en maître (trop rétrogrades et où la femme est méprisée et je ne mâche pas mes mots). Et allez donc pour une nouvelle polémique avec certains forumers virulents (tels une certaine S...). A bientôt pour les représailles (ah ah ah 😛).
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Hello everyone on this forum!
I know in advance that what I'm about to say here won't please everyone, but honesty is a virtue, isn't it?
Here's the thing: for many years now, I've noticed a habit in French-speaking posts of using abbreviations left and right, as if to show that we're "in the know." Let me explain with a few examples:
- - In discussions about Peru, I see "Aguas" for "Aguas Calientes." And if it's Mexico, well, it'll be "Aguas" for "Aguascalientes"!
- - For Guatemala, "travelers" will say "Guaté." Come on, saying "Guatemalas" would maybe be the undeniable sign that you know nothing about the country???
- - Back from Indonesia, many will talk about how familiar they've become with the country's language: "bahasa." Of course, everyone will know what you're talking about, but it still gets on my nerves because the language (one of the many languages) of Indonesia is "bahasa Indonesia." "Bahasa" actually means "language," and you'll find this word of Indian origin ‘Bhāṣā’ (it's Sanskrit originally) outside Indonesia too: in Thailand, for example, any language will be "phasa" as in "phasa thai" (official Thai), "phasa isan" (what's spoken in northeastern Thailand), "phasa angkrit" = English, etc.
Am I an incorrigible nitpicker? Maybe. But I'd also find it ridiculous if a foreigner came and told me they visited "Monte" during their trip to France, when it was actually Monte Carlo.
I read a lot in English and don't think I've encountered such a habit among English speakers.
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Good evening everyone,
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
This is my 15,000th post, and it's a message I would have preferred never to write.
Patrick—Yangguizi—won’t be returning from his trek in Uganda. His health betrayed him in the mountains.
Like many of you, I laughed until I couldn’t anymore at his travel stories. I met him in Shanghai, then in Istanbul... We scoured restaurants—he was an incredible expert on world cuisines. We relived Korea, China. Always brilliant, so sharp, so funny, so down-to-earth. Being even a little bit his friend was something to be proud of. I think I envied him.
Patrick is still out there, of course... He found his happiness running across the world. He’s on his path. He never doubted that "the traveler doesn’t even know if he’ll return one day."
Not sure this would’ve suited him, but his departure devastates me.
Alright, Farewell, you foreign devil. Safe travels.
Michel
hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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