Are we "bores" with our travel stories?
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JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
There were at least two of us; I tuned out and said so.

I’d noticed it too, and even though I was sure of myself, it was a relief to hear someone else say the same thing. I didn’t bring it up at the time, not wanting to drag anyone else into a potential mess. With that kind of "rant," you often get some pretty mixed reactions.

I didn’t get off easy with several of my travel journals. Plenty of trolls, nuisances, and jealous folks were eventually shown the door by the moderator. Looking back, I realized some of the criticism was actually valid—even if I didn’t take it well at first. And honestly, there’s still a lot more that could be said about it.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
LO Louvilunne Regular ·
I just finished reading this whole discussion—it’s old! It probably went in circles, but it wasn’t uninteresting at all. I’m not a traveler at all; I’ve rarely traveled in my life. Why do I read this forum? I don’t know. My first trip was supposed to be to Australia. Not knowing anything about the country, I just looked for the farthest place from home—just to go far, as far as possible. In 3 years, I didn’t save enough money to buy the flight ticket to Australia, so I ended up in the US instead. Back then, the internet didn’t exist, or it was just in its infancy. I already regretted not being able to travel in the 19th century, knowing nothing about the destination—or almost nothing. Without having seen a single photo. Though there were photos in the 19th century. What a shame? Seeing photos before discovering a place? I didn’t know anything. Nada. Before leaving. All I had in mind was Philippe Labro’s book, *The Foreign Student*, with all the misconceptions that come with it, since it was published in 1986. Still, I wanted to experience some semblance of surprise and discovery. Knowing the bare minimum about the country or city you’re about to land in. Knowing too much would’ve ruined the purpose of the trip, in my opinion. Travel journals didn’t exist back then anyway. What I wanted was to be far from everything I knew, without knowing anything about my new surroundings before setting foot there. My travels stopped after that first trip! I stayed longer than the planned 3 months in the US—25 years, oops.😉 My discovery of the world has been very, very slow and, in fact, never really happened for me. I dreamed of Lesotho, Mongolia, Bhutan, Mauritania, and I ended up in New York! I don’t regret it. Then there was a year and a half when I lived in Tuscany, 6 months in Crete, 5 months in Japan. 2 years on a somewhat crappy Caribbean island, but never by choice. Life’s twists and turns led me to live in these different countries for a while. I don’t have any photos from those stays. They remain inside me. Cell phones didn’t exist, and I didn’t have a camera. I wonder today, why didn’t I even bother to get one? I left just to leave, nothing more. Not a traveler, just a personal quest—then going where I knew nothing. Or just wanting to live entirely in the moment? Differently? That’s mostly it: living in the moment, keeping your memories deep inside you. The richness of those short stays, I keep them within me. Again, I didn’t choose Tuscany, Japan, or the small Caribbean island. Life took me there. Except for Crete. A completely absurd idea from my silly romanticism: living a little on the island of Zeus. I read too much Greek mythology as a child—it gave me ideas like mine, a bit crazy. All this to say that reading travel journals can sometimes amuse me, except when they’re a bit boring. I prefer the ones that are more personal. More interesting and funnier. For advice blogs, I don’t need them. Would I feel the need to create one, a travel journal, if I actually decided to travel? No. But I don’t judge those who do. Though my “non-travels,” in fact, living outside my country for so many years, are travels in their own way. A bit slow and very few. If one day I decide to take my car and leave the country where I live, I won’t read any blogs or journals, by choice. Just to discover alone, even if it’s illusory. Because undiscovered lands no longer exist. One expression I don’t understand: “Doing a country.” You don’t “do a country.” You live there, visit it, or cross through it.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
hi there,

I don’t have any photos from those trips. They stay inside me.

Oh, I totally get that—same for me. I’ve never had the soul of a collector. Photos, why bother? You tuck them away in a corner to dig out later? Show them to friends? Usually, nobody cares.

Back then, there was no internet—or just the very beginnings. I already regretted not being able to travel in the 19th Century, knowing nothing about the destination, or almost nothing. Without having seen a single photo. Though, there were photos in the 19th Century.

Yeah, but in black and white!

All that to say, I sometimes enjoy reading travel journals—except when they’re a bit boring.

Travel journals aren’t so bad, though! You can travel vicariously. I love it when we climb into the 4x4... Sometimes there are 7 or 8 of us crammed in there, but never any issues on the pre-planned route. We know exactly what time we’ll arrive at the stunning hotel with the breathtaking view... And the photos are better than real life—you don’t see all the eyesores in the landscape, like cell towers, power lines, or smokestack factories...

Just to discover alone, even if it’s illusory. Because undiscovered lands no longer exist.

You’re wrong there. If you look at maps of certain countries (Irian Jaya, for example) or zoom in with Google Earth, you’ll see little blank spots here and there where nothing appears, and no names are marked—even on detailed maps... No travel journals about those on VF!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
Photos—what’s the point? You just tuck them away in a corner to dig out later?

Uh... in the last century, yeah...

But now, I’ve got my photos on my smartphone, accessible anytime—by geolocation or date. Though, I guess you don’t *have* to have a smartphone. Or the internet, for that matter...
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Photos—what’s the point? You just tuck them away in a corner to dig out later?

Uh… in the last century, yeah…

Whether you pull them out of your smartphone or an old photo album, it’s kind of the same thing, isn’t it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
JO Jojoone1 Globetrotter ·
It’s not bad at all to have your photos on an external hard drive and look back at them quietly on the big TV when you feel like reliving the trip.
« Tout le monde s'interroge sur comment laisser une meilleure planète à nos enfants, mais on devrait plutôt penser à laisser de meilleurs enfants pour notre planète. » Clint Eastwood
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
No electricity, no running water... 😏
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
If one day I decide to take my car and leave the country where I live, I wouldn’t read any blogs or travel journals, by choice. Just to discover alone, even if it’s illusory.

Let’s say it can quickly turn into a huge hassle depending on the country...

Visa or no visa? In advance or on the spot? How long does the passport need to be valid after the trip?

What payment methods should I use?

What are the roads like? Passable? 4x4 required?

What documents are needed for the car? What documents for the driver?

Which vaccines are mandatory?

Safety concerns?

What about bribes?

If you don’t do any research at all, the trip might end at the border.

Once in the country and after getting the few practical details mentioned above, you can indeed choose to wander freely based on your mood—if you skip everything that’s visited by others (meaning the very touristy areas where everything will be fully booked and you’ll need to reserve entries in advance, etc.).

But how do you know the names of places to avoid if you haven’t researched beforehand?

After all, the hassles are the most vivid moments in a travel journal. They’re also the moments you remember for the rest of your life (or until Alzheimer’s...), even without photos.
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MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
Whether they come from your smartphone or your old photo album, isn't it pretty much the same thing?

The advantage of having them on my smartphone—since I’d have one anyway—is that they take up zero space. You can’t say the same about photo albums, and it wouldn’t be very practical to carry them around all the time. Not to mention searching by date or location!

Plus, you’re not forced to show your photos stored on your smartphone to everyone; you can also look at them from time to time, on a small or big screen.
MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
No electricity, no running water...😏

Yeah, but this isn’t even the last century anymore...
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
you can indeed choose to wander wherever the mood takes you if you skip everything that others visit.

I know some people who make it a priority, a way of traveling at all costs—even if it means missing out on the prettiest things…
Mes photos sur Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/153304262@N05/albums "Le Temps nous égare. Le Temps nous étreint. Le Temps nous est gare. Le Temps nous est train".
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
I think some of the parents of the old-timers on this forum didn’t have running water or electricity.

There was no bathroom at my grandmother’s place. No toilet either, for that matter. And this was downtown.

Nowadays, it’s pretty rare to find anyone under 70 without internet or a smartphone. More by choice than necessity, though.
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AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Yes

But it still requires having looked up places to avoid in advance.

So it’s not really setting off with a carefree spirit...

I don’t think anyone on this forum travels that way.

Why join VF if you don’t want to know anything beforehand, if you don’t want to "spoil" a country before you’re even there?
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LO Louvilunne Regular ·
Why sign up on VF when you don’t want to know anything in advance, when you don’t want to spoil a country before you’re there?

Because I love reading and wanted to share answers about the region where I live.
LO Louvilunne Regular ·
I think some of the parents of the old-timers on this forum didn’t have running water or electricity.

There was no bathroom at my grandmother’s place. No toilet either, for that matter. And yet, she lived downtown.

Nowadays, it’s pretty rare for anyone under 70 not to have the internet or a smartphone. More by choice than necessity, though.

Here, no heating, and it can get cold. On my farm, a bit of salty well water, no pressure, so no hot water, and solar electricity that doesn’t always work. And I’m not even 70! But we do have internet. I’ve also lived without water for 2 years—now *that* was a struggle.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
you can indeed choose to wander wherever the mood takes you if you skip everything that’s visited by others.

I know some people who make it a priority, a way of traveling at all costs, even if it means missing out on the most beautiful things...

Hi kate, There are so many beautiful things that most people miss! If we had to make a list of the most beautiful regions, cities, villages, and natural sites in France, I’m not sure we’d all agree—but what foreign travel agencies always promote are the same few places. You can count them on one hand. In Paris: the Louvre, Sacré-Cœur, the Eiffel Tower, the Centre Pompidou... Versailles. Then Mont Saint-Michel, the Châteaux of the Loire Valley, the French Riviera (Saint-Tropez, Nice), the Northern Alps: Chamonix and Mont Blanc, Annecy... Some regions are almost completely overlooked: the Centre (except for the Châteaux of the Loire), Limousin, the Cévennes, Cathar Country, the Basque Country, the Jura, the Southern Alps, Brittany, Corsica, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY

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