Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Voyager rend-il tolérant? L'agressivité est elle occidentale?
by Parvat
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
merci a tous de tous ces eclaircissements!....cela confirme les doutes que j'avais!...
bon aristo, je fais un cheque au nom de qui???😉
dis moi nakata!...le scientifique!...😉
google n'a plus de secret pour toi!...merci en tout cas!...
carpe diem!...
aussi catherine, je voulais te dire que lorsque le film amen de gavras est sorti, il y a eu bp de pression de la part du vatican pour interdire le film car il sous entendait que l'eglise partcipait activement aux deportations de la deuxieme guerre mondiale!..
et il n'a pas ete suprime car la liberte de pense est plus importante que toutes les convictions religieuses!...c'est ce qui fait la force d'un pays!...mais ce n'est pas pour autant qu'il y a eu de gdes protestations de la part des fideles!...
il y a donc qq chose qui cloche avec la religion musulmane ou plutot avec les representants extremeistes de cette religion !..tu ne trouves pas!...
tu sais d'apres moi tout doit etre sujet a la derision, ca permet de dedramatiser et d'apaiser les esprits et la le contraire se produit!...bizzard non???? tu parles de manipulation de la part des medias!...certes c'est vrai mais la plus gde part des grdes manipulations viennent majoritairement des religions!...toutes confondues !...l'histoire est la pour le confirmer!... et ici cette publicite profite le plus a qui ???aux medias je ne crois pas !...ca serait ds quel but???c'est une accusation assez facile a mon gout, tu ne trouves pas???😉 en tout cas je m'etais deja fait une opinion avt mais je voulais la prouver par des faits, et la on m'en a donne pas mal!... a plus!...
tu sais d'apres moi tout doit etre sujet a la derision, ca permet de dedramatiser et d'apaiser les esprits et la le contraire se produit!...bizzard non???? tu parles de manipulation de la part des medias!...certes c'est vrai mais la plus gde part des grdes manipulations viennent majoritairement des religions!...toutes confondues !...l'histoire est la pour le confirmer!... et ici cette publicite profite le plus a qui ???aux medias je ne crois pas !...ca serait ds quel but???c'est une accusation assez facile a mon gout, tu ne trouves pas???😉 en tout cas je m'etais deja fait une opinion avt mais je voulais la prouver par des faits, et la on m'en a donne pas mal!... a plus!...
carpe diem!...
al-Mansur al-Din Ibn Bushy....😛
Autre chose : Gael, je crois que Nakata, à notre jeu ''photos'', doit faire partie de ceux qu'on appelle les tricheurs googoliens !!!
Autre chose : Gael, je crois que Nakata, à notre jeu ''photos'', doit faire partie de ceux qu'on appelle les tricheurs googoliens !!!
Ben
Bon, je viens d'aller lire, et si je n'étais pas au courant de tout ça, en tous cas, ça me prouve que j'avais bien raison de soupçonner une manipulation à plusieurs étages ce que je dis depuis le début, et qu'on à toujours tort de se laisser manipuler parce qu'en principe, les résultats escomptés par les manipulateurs s'ils réussissent leur manoeuvre sont toujours bien plus graves et dommageables que le leurre qu'on nous brandit sous le nez pour nous faire réagir 😄Demandez aux taureaux de corrida ce qu'ils en pensent 😄
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
🙂Bonjour,
Tiens, un nouveau dans la discussion🙂
Amen est un de mes films préférés, je l'ai vu plusieurs fois.Gavras était justemment allé a Tout le monde en parle et avait dit que le film devait sortir.Finalement je n'avais pas trouvé que le film était si méchant avec le Vatican...Toute cette histoire de la part du vatican pour interdire un film! Au fait pour le film Le Code Da Vinci, des catholiques ont fait des conférences a l'université-Code da Vinci, myhte ou réalité?
Tiens, un nouveau dans la discussion🙂
Amen est un de mes films préférés, je l'ai vu plusieurs fois.Gavras était justemment allé a Tout le monde en parle et avait dit que le film devait sortir.Finalement je n'avais pas trouvé que le film était si méchant avec le Vatican...Toute cette histoire de la part du vatican pour interdire un film! Au fait pour le film Le Code Da Vinci, des catholiques ont fait des conférences a l'université-Code da Vinci, myhte ou réalité?
Anaïs.
je l'ai lu, et j'attends avec impatience le film!...en tout cas Dan Brown a utilise "la theorie du complot" pour l'ecrire!...et il ne s'en cache pas!...et ca marche!...😉
carpe diem!...
Hé ! Ho !
Je n'ai jamais défendu loin s'en faut les extrémistes, je n'ai pas arrêté au contraire de rabâcher qu'ils étaient dangereux . Tout comme je n'ai pas arrêté de rabâcher, que faire tout ce patakés autour de liberté d'expression qui n'est absolument pas mise en danger donnait l'opportunité à ces fous dangereux de nous forcer à considérer leur religion comme une force politique ce qui est alors là, bien plus grave et dangereux pour nos sociétés.
Sans compter les manipulations venues de l'autre coté et dont je t'ai déjà parlé.
D'autre part bien des personnes ont répondu à peu de chose près ce que je te réponds là, pourquoi ne les interroges-tu pas elles aussi ? Ce n'est pas parce qu'une poignée de gaudiches qui s'imaginent tout savoir sur l'islam sans avoir jamais mis les pieds en pays musulman, n'arrivent pas à comprendre que la liberté des femmes adultes musulmanes de mettre où non un foulard est aussi respectable que leur liberté de se faire bronzer et que surtout ça ne les concerne en rien, que je suis po-islamiste intégriste. Ca me gonfle à la fin .
Je n'ai jamais défendu loin s'en faut les extrémistes, je n'ai pas arrêté au contraire de rabâcher qu'ils étaient dangereux . Tout comme je n'ai pas arrêté de rabâcher, que faire tout ce patakés autour de liberté d'expression qui n'est absolument pas mise en danger donnait l'opportunité à ces fous dangereux de nous forcer à considérer leur religion comme une force politique ce qui est alors là, bien plus grave et dangereux pour nos sociétés.
Sans compter les manipulations venues de l'autre coté et dont je t'ai déjà parlé.
D'autre part bien des personnes ont répondu à peu de chose près ce que je te réponds là, pourquoi ne les interroges-tu pas elles aussi ? Ce n'est pas parce qu'une poignée de gaudiches qui s'imaginent tout savoir sur l'islam sans avoir jamais mis les pieds en pays musulman, n'arrivent pas à comprendre que la liberté des femmes adultes musulmanes de mettre où non un foulard est aussi respectable que leur liberté de se faire bronzer et que surtout ça ne les concerne en rien, que je suis po-islamiste intégriste. Ca me gonfle à la fin .
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
A propos d'Amen, pendants la 2e guerre mondiale, bp de prêtres, de pasteurs et d'évêques, en Europe de l'Ouest en tous cas, ont protesté officiellement contre les horreurs du régime nazi, même commises contre les juifs. malheureusement, ces religieus étaient minoritaires. même les témoins de Jéohava ont aidé a caché des juifs.
Les uatres religieux étaient soit satisfait du nazisme, sont tout simplement, et majoritairement, lâches.
Quant au pape, Pie XII (je crois), c'était simplment une grosse lavette probablement antisémite et en tous cas politiquement machiavélique.
Et le pape actuel ? Pendant la 2e guerre mondiale, sous l'uniforme allemand, il servait dans une unité de DCA (défense contre avions). j'ignore quel était son poste. s'il s'occupait du canon même, il est possible qu'il ait abbatu des avions anglais ou US et donc...que notre actuel pape ait tué des hommes !!!
Je rappelle que Mahomet lui même a ordonné des massacres et qu'il a probablement tué lui-même, sans parler des tortures et du reste...
Dites-moi, les ''Japs'' sont bouddhiste, pour l'essentiel, non ? Combien de japonais bouddhistes ont participé aux massacres, notamment en Chine (10 millions de morts) pdt la 2e G M ???
Vive nos religions pacifistes !
Les uatres religieux étaient soit satisfait du nazisme, sont tout simplement, et majoritairement, lâches.
Quant au pape, Pie XII (je crois), c'était simplment une grosse lavette probablement antisémite et en tous cas politiquement machiavélique.
Et le pape actuel ? Pendant la 2e guerre mondiale, sous l'uniforme allemand, il servait dans une unité de DCA (défense contre avions). j'ignore quel était son poste. s'il s'occupait du canon même, il est possible qu'il ait abbatu des avions anglais ou US et donc...que notre actuel pape ait tué des hommes !!!
Je rappelle que Mahomet lui même a ordonné des massacres et qu'il a probablement tué lui-même, sans parler des tortures et du reste...
Dites-moi, les ''Japs'' sont bouddhiste, pour l'essentiel, non ? Combien de japonais bouddhistes ont participé aux massacres, notamment en Chine (10 millions de morts) pdt la 2e G M ???
Vive nos religions pacifistes !
Ben
Bonjour,
Oui, enfin le shintoisme est la religion primitive, et pendant la deuxieme guerre mondiale c'était le shintoisme d'État.Les autres religions étaient controlées, et ils voulaient une religion shinto pure, sans apports du bouddhisme.Mais il n'y a pas de croyance spécifique, une personne peut aller au sanctuaire shinto pour obtenir de la chance, et se marier bouddhiste.
Oui, enfin le shintoisme est la religion primitive, et pendant la deuxieme guerre mondiale c'était le shintoisme d'État.Les autres religions étaient controlées, et ils voulaient une religion shinto pure, sans apports du bouddhisme.Mais il n'y a pas de croyance spécifique, une personne peut aller au sanctuaire shinto pour obtenir de la chance, et se marier bouddhiste.
Pourquoi se sont-elles converties à l'Islam ?
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Parce qu'elles sont connes ?
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Parce qu'elles s'emmerdent.
Merci pour ces réponses, mais pour vérifier leur validité, j'ai besoin de te poser une question :Es-tu une québéquoise convertie à l'islam, toi ? 😉
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Parce qu'elles sont connes ?
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Parce qu'elles s'emmerdent.
Merci pour ces réponses, mais pour vérifier leur validité, j'ai besoin de te poser une question :Es-tu une québéquoise convertie à l'islam, toi ? 😉
Bonjour Glidule,
Je ne reviendrai pas la-dessus, j'en ai suffisament dit et je ne veux pas de dispute🙂D'ailleurs hier je n'aurai jamais du répondre aux questions.
A+
Re.. Annaïs,
Je n'ai aucune intention de me disputer avec toi.🙂 Mais ça m'intéresse vraiment de savoir ce qui pousse des québéquoises à se convertir à l'Islam, surtout dans sa forme assez "dure". C'est une demande d'info, pas une recherche de polémique (une fois que je l'aurais, motus et réflexion😉). Enfin, si je puis me permettre, tu ne peux pas "revenir là-dessus", parce que c'est un aspect de la question que tu n'as jamais abordé. (Je viens de relire tous tes post)
Je ne reviendrai pas la-dessus, j'en ai suffisament dit et je ne veux pas de dispute🙂D'ailleurs hier je n'aurai jamais du répondre aux questions.
A+
Re.. Annaïs,
Je n'ai aucune intention de me disputer avec toi.🙂 Mais ça m'intéresse vraiment de savoir ce qui pousse des québéquoises à se convertir à l'Islam, surtout dans sa forme assez "dure". C'est une demande d'info, pas une recherche de polémique (une fois que je l'aurais, motus et réflexion😉). Enfin, si je puis me permettre, tu ne peux pas "revenir là-dessus", parce que c'est un aspect de la question que tu n'as jamais abordé. (Je viens de relire tous tes post)
En fait je déconnais qu'à moitié en disant cela.
Si on se convertit uniquement par amour c'est idiot. Et si son amoureux vous oblige à vous convertir c'est un con.
Si on se convertit sincèrement c'est de la lacheté. l'avantage de se plier aux dogmes d'une religion c'est qu'il n'y a pas besoin de poser de se poser des questions existentielles. C'est dieu qui décide et on ira au pradis, amen. Si on a un coup dur c'est dieu qui l'a voulu (quel enfoiré).
Si on se convertit uniquement par amour c'est idiot. Et si son amoureux vous oblige à vous convertir c'est un con.
Si on se convertit sincèrement c'est de la lacheté. l'avantage de se plier aux dogmes d'une religion c'est qu'il n'y a pas besoin de poser de se poser des questions existentielles. C'est dieu qui décide et on ira au pradis, amen. Si on a un coup dur c'est dieu qui l'a voulu (quel enfoiré).
Euh....... marilune plus la peine de t'époumoner dans mes messages privés. Comme je ne suis pas maso je t'en ai supprimé l'accès.
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Bonjour,
Je persiste et je signe, j'en ai assez des histoires sur cette discussion:
"Bonjour Madame,
Encore gonflée?Ras-le-bol de la dispute sur cette discussion.Je ne sais pas ce que cette pauvre Anais vous a fait, mais vous prenez tout au premier degré.Elle cherche a se réconcilier, pourquoi vous la recaler en lui disant qu'elle fait une crise d'adolescente?D'une des deux, je ne sais pas laquelle est plus gamine.
Bien a vous"
Je persiste et je signe, j'en ai assez des histoires sur cette discussion:
"Bonjour Madame,
Encore gonflée?Ras-le-bol de la dispute sur cette discussion.Je ne sais pas ce que cette pauvre Anais vous a fait, mais vous prenez tout au premier degré.Elle cherche a se réconcilier, pourquoi vous la recaler en lui disant qu'elle fait une crise d'adolescente?D'une des deux, je ne sais pas laquelle est plus gamine.
Bien a vous"
Eh dites Taali et Marilune... En répondant constamment et en revenant à la charge ( jusqu'à harceler en privé ) contre Catherine qui ne s'est pas adressée à vous mais à Annais, pourquoi est-ce que vous vous en prenez à elle ?
Vous n'aimez pas la discussion ? Comme je vous l'ai dit dans un post, vous voulez arrêter, n'y participez plus et ne vous donnez pas la peine de le lire... Il y a un avantage dans les pays comme les nôtres, c'est d'avoir la liberté de faire quasi ce que l'on veut...
Yza, t'es là ? 😏😏
Vous n'aimez pas la discussion ? Comme je vous l'ai dit dans un post, vous voulez arrêter, n'y participez plus et ne vous donnez pas la peine de le lire... Il y a un avantage dans les pays comme les nôtres, c'est d'avoir la liberté de faire quasi ce que l'on veut...
Yza, t'es là ? 😏😏
Bonsoir Catherine,
Je vois que ce n'est pas qu'a l'extérieur qu'il y a une tempete🤪
J'ai moi aussi recu un message de Marilune, mais je ne m'en occupe pas, je ne suis pas fachée contre toi et je ne comprends pas pourquoi cette histoire....
Au fait j'aime moi aussi Georges Minois, "Histoire de l'athéisme"
Bonne soirée....
Je vois que ce n'est pas qu'a l'extérieur qu'il y a une tempete🤪
J'ai moi aussi recu un message de Marilune, mais je ne m'en occupe pas, je ne suis pas fachée contre toi et je ne comprends pas pourquoi cette histoire....
Au fait j'aime moi aussi Georges Minois, "Histoire de l'athéisme"
Bonne soirée....
Anaïs.
Ah tiens t'es là toi, allo 🙂
Voilà j'ai passé une bonne partie aujourd'hui à lire les mails que j'avais survolé depuis mes clashes avec tu sais qui😉 mais vu qu'il y a une trêve, il me paraît inutile d'en rajouter surtout que je suis quelque peu novice en matière d'Islam, je ne vais pas trop la ramener... Ca va me porter une nouvelle fois préjudice 😏
Voilà j'ai passé une bonne partie aujourd'hui à lire les mails que j'avais survolé depuis mes clashes avec tu sais qui😉 mais vu qu'il y a une trêve, il me paraît inutile d'en rajouter surtout que je suis quelque peu novice en matière d'Islam, je ne vais pas trop la ramener... Ca va me porter une nouvelle fois préjudice 😏
Bonsoir,
J'étais partie a mes cours et pelleter ! 1h45 de pelletage et je dois y retourner ce soir🙂
Je me suis énervée un ti-peu hier.Je n'en rajouterai pas moi non plus, quand c'est derriere moi je n'y reviens plus
T'es vaillante, passer un beau vendredi a lire des messages sur VF, bonne nuit (le Pas-de-Calais je vais peut-etre passer par la en aout)
J'étais partie a mes cours et pelleter ! 1h45 de pelletage et je dois y retourner ce soir🙂
Je me suis énervée un ti-peu hier.Je n'en rajouterai pas moi non plus, quand c'est derriere moi je n'y reviens plus
T'es vaillante, passer un beau vendredi a lire des messages sur VF, bonne nuit (le Pas-de-Calais je vais peut-etre passer par la en aout)
Anaïs.
On a au moins tous un point commun, qui est notre profession de foi : ''Il n'y a pas de dieu, c'est l'homme qui a créé le concept divin''
''Concept divin'' car ''dieu'' suggère qu'on reconnait la légitimité du monothéisme, considérant que polythéisme et panthéisme sont des inepties. Cela ne va pas de soi ! Les religieux actuelles considèrent que l'histoire des religions a un ''sens', qu'il est normal de passer du panthéisme au poly puis au mono, forme finale et parfaite.
Bien moi je dieu que le bon (?) dieu est très patient. Il crée l'homme il y a + de 6 millions d'années, le rend vraiment intelligent (homo sapiens sapiens, nous, quoi !) il y a seulement 1 m d'années, puis fait en sorte de développer le cerveau humain pour qu'il puisse concevoir le divin il y a seulement 200 000 ans maximum. (on le sait car toute religion est basée sur une autre vie, après la mort. Hors, les hommes ont commencé à enterrer leurs morts seulement à cette époque-là, environ)...
Entre 6 millions et 0.2 millions d'années, il a dû vraiment se faire chier, le bon dieu. L'homme existait mais n'était pas conscient de l'existence de dieu.
Sans parler de cette première forme de religion, forme d'animisme. Puis on inventa pls dieux, à l'image des comportements humains (sont intelligents, ces Grecs anciens, eux). Puis un seul. Le père Abraham y a pensé en 1er. Le pb est que les historiens doutent de l'existence d'Abraham, mais c'est pas grâve ! (même chose pour Moise, d'ailleurs).
An nom du monothéisme, les chrétiens ont rasé des centaines de temples grecs et romains, et ils s'en ventaient, les salops ! Et les Musulmans ? Au VIIe siècles, ils ont plutôt coupé les têtes des polythéistes arabes (ex : les Mecquois) Les religions pré-monothéistes ont tellement bien été effacé de l'histoire qu'on en a oublié le nom même de certaines. par ex, les dieux arabes (excepté allah, qui existait déjà) ou les dieux slaves (avant l'évangélisation de cyrille et methode eu IX). Quelle exemple de propagande efficace !
Bp de religieux rêves de poursuivre ds cette voie : reste à effacer l'athéisme. Peuvent pas se plier aux dogmes, ces gens-là ! Et leur salut ! quels inconscients ! Ils iront en enfer, tous. Même s'il n'ont pas commis de péchés de toute leur vie et que moi j'ai trucidé, torturé, mais que j'ai ensuite fait pénitence...Au moins, moi, mon âme sera sauvée, na ! J'irai au paradis. Ca ressemble à quoi, le paradis ? Lisez les livres sacrés, paiens ! Ni le coran, ni la bible ne le décrivent ? Si, un peu..Bon, c'est vrai, pas bp... Comme ça, on le conçoit à notre image, selon nos gouts. C'est bien, le libre-arbitre ! Ca justifie toutes les contratictions des religions.
God bless you...😇
''Concept divin'' car ''dieu'' suggère qu'on reconnait la légitimité du monothéisme, considérant que polythéisme et panthéisme sont des inepties. Cela ne va pas de soi ! Les religieux actuelles considèrent que l'histoire des religions a un ''sens', qu'il est normal de passer du panthéisme au poly puis au mono, forme finale et parfaite.
Bien moi je dieu que le bon (?) dieu est très patient. Il crée l'homme il y a + de 6 millions d'années, le rend vraiment intelligent (homo sapiens sapiens, nous, quoi !) il y a seulement 1 m d'années, puis fait en sorte de développer le cerveau humain pour qu'il puisse concevoir le divin il y a seulement 200 000 ans maximum. (on le sait car toute religion est basée sur une autre vie, après la mort. Hors, les hommes ont commencé à enterrer leurs morts seulement à cette époque-là, environ)...
Entre 6 millions et 0.2 millions d'années, il a dû vraiment se faire chier, le bon dieu. L'homme existait mais n'était pas conscient de l'existence de dieu.
Sans parler de cette première forme de religion, forme d'animisme. Puis on inventa pls dieux, à l'image des comportements humains (sont intelligents, ces Grecs anciens, eux). Puis un seul. Le père Abraham y a pensé en 1er. Le pb est que les historiens doutent de l'existence d'Abraham, mais c'est pas grâve ! (même chose pour Moise, d'ailleurs).
An nom du monothéisme, les chrétiens ont rasé des centaines de temples grecs et romains, et ils s'en ventaient, les salops ! Et les Musulmans ? Au VIIe siècles, ils ont plutôt coupé les têtes des polythéistes arabes (ex : les Mecquois) Les religions pré-monothéistes ont tellement bien été effacé de l'histoire qu'on en a oublié le nom même de certaines. par ex, les dieux arabes (excepté allah, qui existait déjà) ou les dieux slaves (avant l'évangélisation de cyrille et methode eu IX). Quelle exemple de propagande efficace !
Bp de religieux rêves de poursuivre ds cette voie : reste à effacer l'athéisme. Peuvent pas se plier aux dogmes, ces gens-là ! Et leur salut ! quels inconscients ! Ils iront en enfer, tous. Même s'il n'ont pas commis de péchés de toute leur vie et que moi j'ai trucidé, torturé, mais que j'ai ensuite fait pénitence...Au moins, moi, mon âme sera sauvée, na ! J'irai au paradis. Ca ressemble à quoi, le paradis ? Lisez les livres sacrés, paiens ! Ni le coran, ni la bible ne le décrivent ? Si, un peu..Bon, c'est vrai, pas bp... Comme ça, on le conçoit à notre image, selon nos gouts. C'est bien, le libre-arbitre ! Ca justifie toutes les contratictions des religions.
God bless you...😇
Ben
Ah ouais!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ca c'est chouette comme idee les pelles! Je propose d'en fournir une, avec des seaux et des rateaux, aux excitees du secteur et d'aller faire des pates de sable sur la plage....., ce qui detendra tout le monde! En plus, le plus beau pate sera recompense!!!😉
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
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Et bien, je n'ai pas eu le temps ni l'électricité pour venir faire un tour et voir tout les messages déplacés qu'il y a eu.... ( quel perte! 😄)
Je ne vais pas répliquée à ceux qui se plaignent que je défend l'idée de Catherine, et qui n'ont pas compris mes idées à moi. Et je ne parlerai pas non plus de celles qui sont venus ici tenir des propos déplacés sans apporter rien d'intéressanr sur le sujet de base. Comme le dit Anais, c'est du passé, tant mieux.
On parle de liberté d'expression ici, non?
Juste une chose, Anais, j'étais très intéressée à lire l'article que tu parlais sur les femmes musulmanes québécoises, converties. Je voulais comprendre ton point de vue, et lire moi aussi pour me donner une meilleure idée de ce que tu disais.
Ta réponse ne pas m'a pas impressionné. Tu parle de donner des références, et tu réponds bêtement à ma demande. J'ai donc fait une recherche sur le site web de Chatelaine et à part des trucs pour perdre du poid, comment faire l'amour à son homme, et une vie pénible sans quiche royale, je n'ai pas trouvé trace de l'article.
Peut-être sera-tu plus disposé à donner un lien maintenant que je ne suis plus la seule que cela intéresse?
Pour ma part, j'ai fait beaucoup de recherche ces derniers jours entre deux pannes de courant, cherchant des références sur la situation de la femme avant l'Islam. Malheureusement, j'ai trouvé beaucoup de chose mais qui viennent de sites musulmans, donc je considère que ce n'est pas des références sérieuses puisqu'elles ne sont pas neutres. Je n'ai rien trouvé sur mes livres que j'avais à l'université. Les seuls livres possible, n'étant pas pour une lecture sur le net mais pour acheter, donc impossible de les lire. ( Donc, Taali, j'ai fait mes devoirs avec les moyens que je possède.)
Mais, j'ai trouvé une lien très intéressant qui fait une description sur la différence entre musulmans et islamistes. Les origines et les pourquoi du comment.
Donc à lire et à méditer.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoire_de_l%27islamisme
Nil
Je ne vais pas répliquée à ceux qui se plaignent que je défend l'idée de Catherine, et qui n'ont pas compris mes idées à moi. Et je ne parlerai pas non plus de celles qui sont venus ici tenir des propos déplacés sans apporter rien d'intéressanr sur le sujet de base. Comme le dit Anais, c'est du passé, tant mieux.
On parle de liberté d'expression ici, non?
Juste une chose, Anais, j'étais très intéressée à lire l'article que tu parlais sur les femmes musulmanes québécoises, converties. Je voulais comprendre ton point de vue, et lire moi aussi pour me donner une meilleure idée de ce que tu disais.
Ta réponse ne pas m'a pas impressionné. Tu parle de donner des références, et tu réponds bêtement à ma demande. J'ai donc fait une recherche sur le site web de Chatelaine et à part des trucs pour perdre du poid, comment faire l'amour à son homme, et une vie pénible sans quiche royale, je n'ai pas trouvé trace de l'article.
Peut-être sera-tu plus disposé à donner un lien maintenant que je ne suis plus la seule que cela intéresse?
Pour ma part, j'ai fait beaucoup de recherche ces derniers jours entre deux pannes de courant, cherchant des références sur la situation de la femme avant l'Islam. Malheureusement, j'ai trouvé beaucoup de chose mais qui viennent de sites musulmans, donc je considère que ce n'est pas des références sérieuses puisqu'elles ne sont pas neutres. Je n'ai rien trouvé sur mes livres que j'avais à l'université. Les seuls livres possible, n'étant pas pour une lecture sur le net mais pour acheter, donc impossible de les lire. ( Donc, Taali, j'ai fait mes devoirs avec les moyens que je possède.)
Mais, j'ai trouvé une lien très intéressant qui fait une description sur la différence entre musulmans et islamistes. Les origines et les pourquoi du comment.
Donc à lire et à méditer.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoire_de_l%27islamisme
Nil
Zen Attitude!
"Rester, c’est exister : mais voyager, c’est vivre!''
je ne pense pas que l'agressivité soit une spécialité occidentale mais un des effets pervers de la richesse. ce qui dans la pratique revient sensiblement au même...
Cette idée mériterait quelques arguments, parce que je n"avais pas l'impression que les Rwandais étaient si riches que ça, pourtant ça ne les a pas empêchés de s'étriper .
Cette idée mériterait quelques arguments, parce que je n"avais pas l'impression que les Rwandais étaient si riches que ça, pourtant ça ne les a pas empêchés de s'étriper .
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Bonjour Nil,
J'en conclus d'apres le ton de ta voix que la dispute continue pour toi.Libre a toi.Mais je ne vais pas revenir dans cette discussion a ce sujet, car il y a eu trop de prises de bec et comme tu le dis, quelle perte de temps. Je ne suis pas obligée de partager tes idées, je suis obligées de les respecter.C'est ma définition de la tolérance. Et je ne suis pas inscrite a VF pour m'engueuler, alors je vais revenir a ce qui m'intéressait avant cette discussion.Preuve que pour moi rien a changé, ma proposition de t'envoyer de la sauce st-hubert tiens toujours. Tenir rancune ce n'est pas pour moi.Et puisque la Journée mondiale des femmes est bientot, bonne fete des femmes en Turquie.
Bonne journée
J'en conclus d'apres le ton de ta voix que la dispute continue pour toi.Libre a toi.Mais je ne vais pas revenir dans cette discussion a ce sujet, car il y a eu trop de prises de bec et comme tu le dis, quelle perte de temps. Je ne suis pas obligée de partager tes idées, je suis obligées de les respecter.C'est ma définition de la tolérance. Et je ne suis pas inscrite a VF pour m'engueuler, alors je vais revenir a ce qui m'intéressait avant cette discussion.Preuve que pour moi rien a changé, ma proposition de t'envoyer de la sauce st-hubert tiens toujours. Tenir rancune ce n'est pas pour moi.Et puisque la Journée mondiale des femmes est bientot, bonne fete des femmes en Turquie.
Bonne journée
Anaïs.
😮
Et bien je pense que tu fais erreur ici, je ne continue aucune dispute, je tiens juste à te préciser de l'intérêt que j'avais de lire cet article.
Je suis aussi de ton avis que l'on a pas à avoir le même avis ( et tant mieux, sinon ce serait endormant, et de plus, on ne peut pas avoir une connaissance poussée si on n'a pas d'autre facon de penser pour remettre ses propres pensées en question....)
Je t'ai parfois trouvé agressive et bouchée sur certains points, et sur d'autres avec un bon jugement. Ce qui est surement le cas pour toi aussi.
J'ai fait allusion à ta remarque car celle-ci était déplacée et sans lieu d'être. Je t'ai à nouveau posé la question, d'une autre facon, en t'expliquant pourquoi cela m'intéressais.
Donc, si mon ton était rude, excuse-moi, je ne m'en étais pas rendue compte. Et comme j'ai dit, j'étais d'accord avec toi! C'est à l'attitude de d'autres qui sont intervenues pour ne rien apporter d'autres que de la brouille, que j'étais plus ''rude''.
Nil
Je suis aussi de ton avis que l'on a pas à avoir le même avis ( et tant mieux, sinon ce serait endormant, et de plus, on ne peut pas avoir une connaissance poussée si on n'a pas d'autre facon de penser pour remettre ses propres pensées en question....)
Je t'ai parfois trouvé agressive et bouchée sur certains points, et sur d'autres avec un bon jugement. Ce qui est surement le cas pour toi aussi.
J'ai fait allusion à ta remarque car celle-ci était déplacée et sans lieu d'être. Je t'ai à nouveau posé la question, d'une autre facon, en t'expliquant pourquoi cela m'intéressais.
Donc, si mon ton était rude, excuse-moi, je ne m'en étais pas rendue compte. Et comme j'ai dit, j'étais d'accord avec toi! C'est à l'attitude de d'autres qui sont intervenues pour ne rien apporter d'autres que de la brouille, que j'étais plus ''rude''.
Nil
Zen Attitude!
"Rester, c’est exister : mais voyager, c’est vivre!''
Bonjour,
Pas grave, oui c'est vrai que je peux etre bouchée sur certains points, je suis une féministe et j'ai un probleme avec les religions....Mais si j'ai le temps je ferai un saut de quelques jours en Turquie quand je voyagerai en aout...Pas assez pour me faire une idée mais pas le choix....Au moins je ne me ferai plus reprocher de n'avoir jamais mis les pieds dans un pied musulman😉Les gars turcs ont l'air cute.
Bonne journée
Pas grave, oui c'est vrai que je peux etre bouchée sur certains points, je suis une féministe et j'ai un probleme avec les religions....Mais si j'ai le temps je ferai un saut de quelques jours en Turquie quand je voyagerai en aout...Pas assez pour me faire une idée mais pas le choix....Au moins je ne me ferai plus reprocher de n'avoir jamais mis les pieds dans un pied musulman😉Les gars turcs ont l'air cute.
Bonne journée
Anaïs.
😄, c'est que tu n'es pas allée au nord Pakistan ! Dommage que je n'ai pas de scanner pour t'en envoyer un échantillonnage non exhaustif 😄 Su-per-bes !
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Non mais ça va, mesdames !
Votre attitude est incongrue.
De toutes façons, on voit que vous n'avez pas vu ma photo 😎
Votre attitude est incongrue.
De toutes façons, on voit que vous n'avez pas vu ma photo 😎
Ben
Au fait j'aime moi aussi Georges Minois, "Histoire de l'athéisme"
Bonne soirée....
N'est-ce pas ? En plus il est facile à lire, très vivant. Intéressant.
Mais si je le citais c'était pour essayer de donner une nouvelle piste à Gaël sur le coté plus caustique qu'astringent du rire=> on rit toujours au dépends de, quelque chose ou quelqu'un . Ainsi, ceux qui ont un pouvoir, qu'ils veulent absolu sur les populations qu'ils dominent, tout en sachant qu'il est +/- fragile étant donné le combat qu'ils doivent mener pour le maintenir, supportent assez mal le rire qui déstabilise .
Bonne soirée....
N'est-ce pas ? En plus il est facile à lire, très vivant. Intéressant.
Mais si je le citais c'était pour essayer de donner une nouvelle piste à Gaël sur le coté plus caustique qu'astringent du rire=> on rit toujours au dépends de, quelque chose ou quelqu'un . Ainsi, ceux qui ont un pouvoir, qu'ils veulent absolu sur les populations qu'ils dominent, tout en sachant qu'il est +/- fragile étant donné le combat qu'ils doivent mener pour le maintenir, supportent assez mal le rire qui déstabilise .
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Je ne vais pas répliquée à ceux qui se plaignent que je défend l'idée de Catherine, et qui n'ont pas compris mes idées à moi.
Bonsoir Nil,
Excuses moi si je ne reprends que cette phrase dans ton post, mais, effectivement, à te lire assez souvent, depuis que je suis sur ce forum, il ne me semble pas que tu ai besoin de moi, pour avoir tes propres idées et les défendre au mieux. Il se trouve que dans cette conversation nos idées sont assez proches. J'en suis ravie bien sur, mais je regrette que tes compatriotes aient cru à une "mésalliance" oubliant du coup de te lire -toi-
Bonsoir Nil,
Excuses moi si je ne reprends que cette phrase dans ton post, mais, effectivement, à te lire assez souvent, depuis que je suis sur ce forum, il ne me semble pas que tu ai besoin de moi, pour avoir tes propres idées et les défendre au mieux. Il se trouve que dans cette conversation nos idées sont assez proches. J'en suis ravie bien sur, mais je regrette que tes compatriotes aient cru à une "mésalliance" oubliant du coup de te lire -toi-
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
oui peut etre !..mais a qui cela est profitable!...a tout le monde ???
pourquoi tant de polemique autour d'un dessin??? jesus est caricature je ne sais pas combien de fois par jour et cela n'engendre pas de problemes!..
j'aurais vraiment aime savoir qui manipule qui et pourquoi???
est ce un complot de la part des religions "concurentes", de "l'occident" ou une publicite pour la religion musulmane???
qqun peut m'eclairer car ca serait interressant de comprendre le but de la manoeuvre!...et s'il y a une reponse je pense que cela calmera tout le monde non???
Salut,
Personne ne peut avoir "la" reponse a tes questions. Un "athee religiophobe" te dira que les musulmans, extremistes, islamistes, ... sont les responsables. Un "musulman pur et dur" te dira que c'est une manipulation de la droite/extreme droite europeenne. Un "paranoiaque leger" te citera un complot organise. Un "paranoiaque plus lourd" te fera etat d'une gigantesque manipulation
Le seul moyen est de te faire ta propre opinion, en lisant/ecoutant des avis differents et en ayant un tres grand esprit critique sur tout ce que tu lis/entends. Essayes d'avoir le maximum d'eclairages differents sur le sujet. Si tu as le temps, je te conseille d'etudier un peu de rethorique. Non pas pour l'utiliser mais pour arriver a voir quand elle est utilisee. C'est tres utile pour comprendre un point de vue. Le texte de Ayaan Hirsi Ali (la femme somalienne dont le texte est cite dans un message precedent) est un "bel" exemple d'utilisation d'elements de rethorique 🙁...
Et pour faire un lien avec le message initial, un moyen d'avoir des avis differents est de... voyager! Et voyager en essayant de comprendre le point de vue des autres rend plus tolerant...
Salut,
Personne ne peut avoir "la" reponse a tes questions. Un "athee religiophobe" te dira que les musulmans, extremistes, islamistes, ... sont les responsables. Un "musulman pur et dur" te dira que c'est une manipulation de la droite/extreme droite europeenne. Un "paranoiaque leger" te citera un complot organise. Un "paranoiaque plus lourd" te fera etat d'une gigantesque manipulation
Le seul moyen est de te faire ta propre opinion, en lisant/ecoutant des avis differents et en ayant un tres grand esprit critique sur tout ce que tu lis/entends. Essayes d'avoir le maximum d'eclairages differents sur le sujet. Si tu as le temps, je te conseille d'etudier un peu de rethorique. Non pas pour l'utiliser mais pour arriver a voir quand elle est utilisee. C'est tres utile pour comprendre un point de vue. Le texte de Ayaan Hirsi Ali (la femme somalienne dont le texte est cite dans un message precedent) est un "bel" exemple d'utilisation d'elements de rethorique 🙁...
Et pour faire un lien avec le message initial, un moyen d'avoir des avis differents est de... voyager! Et voyager en essayant de comprendre le point de vue des autres rend plus tolerant...
Salut Krapka!
La rhetorique (et non pas rethorique) est effectivement une technique a etudier et a utiliser avec le plus d'adresse possible quand il s'agit d'exposer ses idees et ses arguments, ce qui est le propre de cette rubrique de VF, et ce que nous faisons tous!!! Ceci n'est pas du tout malsain, a la difference des manipulation en tous genres exercees par les differents pouvoirs en place (politiques, financiers, etc....).
Ces manipulations de masse, auxquelles selon toi, seuls des etres peu ou prou paranoiaques peuvent croire sont utilisees quotidiennement par la grande majorite des medias et certains services officiels ou non travaillant pour l'etat, sans parler de celles elaborees hors du cadre national! Ceux qui ont des activites professionnelles concernees par ces techniques de manipulation me comprendront......... Le role de ces memes est justement de faire passer la denonciation des manipulation de masses pour des fantasmes d'individus deranges, ce qui est aussi un des objectifs des sectes quand on denonce leurs agissements destructeurs envers des personnes fragiles.
Il faut savoir que les techniques liees au controle des individus sont etudiees dans les plus grandes ecoles francaises formant nos elites, militaires y compris................. et que les techniques s'affinent d'annees en annees!!!
C'est une excellente idee que de conseiller la lecture afin de se faire une idee et j'irai plus loin en conseillant les lectures du Canard Enchaine, de Charlie Hebdo, du Monde Diplomatique ou de Geostategie par exemple. Les contre pouvoir denoncant les manipulations ne sont pas legion et autant les citer quand on n'en a l'occasion.
Bon, pour une fois, on s'est un peu eloigne du theme de depart, quoique..................................!
Ces manipulations de masse, auxquelles selon toi, seuls des etres peu ou prou paranoiaques peuvent croire sont utilisees quotidiennement par la grande majorite des medias et certains services officiels ou non travaillant pour l'etat, sans parler de celles elaborees hors du cadre national! Ceux qui ont des activites professionnelles concernees par ces techniques de manipulation me comprendront......... Le role de ces memes est justement de faire passer la denonciation des manipulation de masses pour des fantasmes d'individus deranges, ce qui est aussi un des objectifs des sectes quand on denonce leurs agissements destructeurs envers des personnes fragiles.
Il faut savoir que les techniques liees au controle des individus sont etudiees dans les plus grandes ecoles francaises formant nos elites, militaires y compris................. et que les techniques s'affinent d'annees en annees!!!
C'est une excellente idee que de conseiller la lecture afin de se faire une idee et j'irai plus loin en conseillant les lectures du Canard Enchaine, de Charlie Hebdo, du Monde Diplomatique ou de Geostategie par exemple. Les contre pouvoir denoncant les manipulations ne sont pas legion et autant les citer quand on n'en a l'occasion.
Bon, pour une fois, on s'est un peu eloigne du theme de depart, quoique..................................!
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
www.associationpasdb.com
www.associationpasdb.com
On va ralumer la flamme du débat : qui a vu l'émission Arrêt sur images spécial caricatures, ce dimanche midi, sur arte ???
Avec comme invités Plantu, Dilem (caricaturiste célèbre en algérie) et un reportage sur l'équipe de Charie Hebdo, après la publication de leur fameux No....
Avec comme invités Plantu, Dilem (caricaturiste célèbre en algérie) et un reportage sur l'équipe de Charie Hebdo, après la publication de leur fameux No....
Ben
Ce n'est pas parce qu'une poignée de gaudiches
De godiches STP, avec un "god" comme "dieu". Quand on insulte les gens, il faut le faire correctement.
De godiches STP, avec un "god" comme "dieu". Quand on insulte les gens, il faut le faire correctement.
Ben dis donc........! Tu mets autant de temps que le Naps a reagir toi aussi...! C'est le clan des pepes...........🙂
"Le patriotisme c'est l'esclavage"
TOLSTOI
www.associationpasdb.com
www.associationpasdb.com
je le sais khapka!..c'est pour cela que je demandais les avis de tout le monde pour confirmer ou pas mon opinion!...et c'est confirmer!...
merci a tous!..en tout cas c'est une discussion tres interessante!..
surtout c'est un fait important qui pourrait etre tres dangereux pour l'avenir!..
carpe diem!...
🙂, Tiens ? Voilà qui est amusant ! Donc ces godiches seraient plus proches de la grenouille de bénitier que des maladroites " gauches " que j'imaginais ?
Bon, la prochaine fois alors, je dirais idiotes. Au moins là, je saurais de quoi je parle et les lecteurs pourront parler " d'insultes " sans se tromper, volontairement ou non, sur mes intentions .
Je suis en tous cas ravie, que ce reproche soit le seul que tu ai trouvé à faire sur le fond, à tout ce que j'ai pu rajouter dans ma contribution à ce sujet .
Bon, la prochaine fois alors, je dirais idiotes. Au moins là, je saurais de quoi je parle et les lecteurs pourront parler " d'insultes " sans se tromper, volontairement ou non, sur mes intentions .
Je suis en tous cas ravie, que ce reproche soit le seul que tu ai trouvé à faire sur le fond, à tout ce que j'ai pu rajouter dans ma contribution à ce sujet .
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
BONJOUR,
je vois qu'en mon absence l'ambiance est restée chaude sur le sujet...j'ai regardé l'émission, (comme pratiquement tous les dimanches) je l'ai trouvée très intéressante 😄
je vois qu'en mon absence l'ambiance est restée chaude sur le sujet...j'ai regardé l'émission, (comme pratiquement tous les dimanches) je l'ai trouvée très intéressante 😄
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Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
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- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
.
.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
Hi there, I’ve been traveling for 18 years now, at least 6 months a year, and as the years go by, I actually enjoy coming back to France more and more—a feeling I struggled with at first. I mean, we always think the grass is greener elsewhere.
But in the end, I find meaning in that saying about how there’s no place like home. I still love traveling just as much, but now my trips are shorter, and I enjoy spending more time in our beautiful country, even though I don’t hesitate to criticize it.
How about you? How do you handle coming back from your travels?
A few years ago, I went with a group of friends to lend a hand at a small rural school near Thiès, Senegal.
It was a relaxed but hardworking atmosphere—hands in the mortar, laughter, exchanges, and everything that a COOPERATION project can bring.
Today, the little project is flying on its own.
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?
Wanting to explore Senegal’s riches, we set off for some tourism in the Siné Saloum. One girl in our group fell ill (a malaria attack), and we decided to take her to see a doctor at a large tourist complex nearby. Despite her condition, we had to "show our credentials" (if I may say so) just to get in. She was treated and has been fine since.
This "stop" at a Club Med-style resort with a Teutonic twist—resembling Le Grau-du-Roi but fancier—was a horror show for us: pools, massive artificial basins dyed blue, pink, or green (!!!!), animators shouting around wet T-shirt contests or coconut tree climbing, and sunburned (or sun-pinked) *toubabs*. The entire hotel was surrounded by a huge wall, behind which a small souvenir-seller slum had sprung up, worthy of Dakar’s outer neighborhoods. On leaving, we saw a minibus of guests returning from an "excursion," loaded with masks, fabrics, and djembés—African souvenirs? Maybe those will be *theirs*? What impression did the kids clustered at the hotel gates get? What about the Black servers in "traditional African costumes," serving cocktails and ice cream nonstop?
For me, who experienced Africa very young and in the bush, this remains a haunting image.
On VF, this kind of vacation doesn’t seem to be the norm among users, and that’s exactly why I signed up.
Have you ever experienced this kind of interstellar travel? Do you understand the Martians? Are their motivations peaceful?