Transport Lima - Ayacucho
by Sunandrain
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour,
Je pars au Pérou en août pour une mission humanitaire a Ayacucho. J'aimerais savoir si il est plus prudent de prendre l'avion que le bus sachant que les routes ont l'air peu sures là-bas et si, de ce fait, il faut que je reserve le vol intérieur à l'avance.
merci pour vos réponses.
Salut, moi perso il y a deux ans je suis allé à ayacucho en bus, la route était toute neuve, !! Apres c'est sur le vol intérieur mettra beaucoup moins de temps !! mais les bus sont sur aussi !!
Marco
ok, merci beaucoup pour l'info!!! Combien de temps tu avais mis en bus à peu près? En fait, ce sera mon premier voyage en Amérique latine donc je suis un peu flippée sachant toutes les précautions à prendre et les risques éventuels... Est -ce que tu sais si Ayacucho est loin de Cusco?
merci 🙂
sarah
Pour Ayacucho faut bien compter 12 heures, par contre cuzco ayacucho ce n'est pas loin en kilomètre (500 km; pour nous francais oui mais pour la bas cest pas beaucoup) par contre 24 h de bus !!! et je te conseille de dormir les 12 premières heures !!! voilà la route, un peu defoncé je te l avoue, en terre, à coté d un gros ravin, mais bon ça fait parti du voyage, ça fait une histoire à raconter, Par contre apres la route est goudronnée donc niquel !!
Voilou, à plus
ps : il ne faut pas croire forcement tout ce qui est dit dans le routard et le lonely, le perou est loin d etre dangereux, au contraire, aprés c est sur qu il ne faut pas se promener avec des bijoux apparent, l appareil photo autour du coup en bandoulière, c est juste une question de bon sens !! apres c 'est comme en france, il y a des quartiers un peu plus chaud, la bas c est sur c'est conseillé d y aller accompagné la journée et les eviter le soir, comme je dis plus haut c'est une question de bon sens !!
Si t as d autres questions n'hésites pas, si je peux me rendre utile !!
Tus
Marco
Salut,
Je vis a Ayacucho et contrairement à l'avis général, je trouve la route Lima-Ayacucho pas si sûre que ça... ou plutôt je conseille de se méfier de certaines companies qui "courrent" comme on dit ici! En effet, dans un but de rentabilité maximale, celles-ci tentent de joindre Ayacucho le plus rapidement possible, certains chauffeurs effectuant parfois des aller-retours sans se reposer... avec comme conséquence de nombreux accidents ou des bus qui tombent (la majeur partie de la route est dans les montagnes). Personnellement, j'effectue régulièrement ce trajet avec la companie Cruz del Sur, un peu plus chère, mais très sûre... ! Tu ne dois pas réserver longtemps à l'avance sauf si tu veux le haut confort (cama = 80 SOles, soit 20 euros, normal (semi cama)= 50, 60 soles).
Je vis a ayacucho depuis quelques mois, n'hésite pas à me demander des renseignements! Quel est ton projet exactement? quand arrives tu? pour combien de temps?
A bientôt,
Julien
Je vis a Ayacucho et contrairement à l'avis général, je trouve la route Lima-Ayacucho pas si sûre que ça... ou plutôt je conseille de se méfier de certaines companies qui "courrent" comme on dit ici! En effet, dans un but de rentabilité maximale, celles-ci tentent de joindre Ayacucho le plus rapidement possible, certains chauffeurs effectuant parfois des aller-retours sans se reposer... avec comme conséquence de nombreux accidents ou des bus qui tombent (la majeur partie de la route est dans les montagnes). Personnellement, j'effectue régulièrement ce trajet avec la companie Cruz del Sur, un peu plus chère, mais très sûre... ! Tu ne dois pas réserver longtemps à l'avance sauf si tu veux le haut confort (cama = 80 SOles, soit 20 euros, normal (semi cama)= 50, 60 soles).
Je vis a ayacucho depuis quelques mois, n'hésite pas à me demander des renseignements! Quel est ton projet exactement? quand arrives tu? pour combien de temps?
A bientôt,
Julien
Salut!
Merci pour ces précieux conseils, je me demandais justement quelle compagnie je pourrais utiliser pour aller à Ayacucho.
En fait, j'y vais pour une mission humanitaire fin Aout pour 3 semaines et j'espere pouvoir visiter après.
C'est très sympa de me proposer ton aide car je pense que je risque d'avoir pas mal de questions pratiques 🙂
Et toi, tu fais quoi à Ayacucho?
A plus
Sarah
salut!!
en fait je vais m'occuper d'enfants dans une assoc' et je pense visiter un peu après. Je pars fin aout, début septembre, avec une assoc'. Et toi, combien de temps restes tu exactement?
a bientot
sarah
malheureusement je ne peux pas rester plus d'un mois🙁. Je pars le 27 juillet et je rentre le 28 aout.. Mais c'est déjà comme un rêve pour moi !😛
on va se croiser donc! je vais dans un orphelinat : casahogarlosgorriones.org ca devrait être une expérience enrichissante!
a bientôt stéphanie
on va se croiser donc! je vais dans un orphelinat : casahogarlosgorriones.org ca devrait être une expérience enrichissante!
a bientôt stéphanie
le seul bonheur qu'on a vient du bonheur qu'on donne
Bonjour,
Moi aussi, je serai à Ayacucho en septembre ; je pars du 4 au 27 septembre. Je vais rejoindre une asso qui est déjà sur place depuis 6 mois. Ils aident les écoles à se stucturer. Je compter rester avec eu aider une semaine puis partir visiter le sud du Pérou (le lac Titicaca, Arequipa), le site majestueux de Cuzco (évidemment) et si j'ai le temps remonter au Nord pour l'Amazonie On verra bien car je n'ai pas envie de faire que du bus... J'ai 33 ans, je m'appelle Cathy et je vis à Nantes . Quel sera ton itinéraire ? A bientôt.
Moi aussi, je serai à Ayacucho en septembre ; je pars du 4 au 27 septembre. Je vais rejoindre une asso qui est déjà sur place depuis 6 mois. Ils aident les écoles à se stucturer. Je compter rester avec eu aider une semaine puis partir visiter le sud du Pérou (le lac Titicaca, Arequipa), le site majestueux de Cuzco (évidemment) et si j'ai le temps remonter au Nord pour l'Amazonie On verra bien car je n'ai pas envie de faire que du bus... J'ai 33 ans, je m'appelle Cathy et je vis à Nantes . Quel sera ton itinéraire ? A bientôt.
salut,
bah moi je pars du 25 aout au 16 septembre en fait et ma mission dure du 29 au 07 donc je resterais surement sur lima avant, le temps de visiter un peu, et après je pense aussi aller visiter... Bien sur, si je peux trouver un ou des compagnons de route, ce serai plus sympa... Je n'ai pas d'itinéraire bien défini encore.
a bientot
sarah
salut salut!!
moi aussi je pars a ayacucho le 25septembre, c mon premier sejour en amerique latine, c mortel !!! je vais bosser ds un orphelinat aussi mais jusqu au 15octobre apres pour moi, c direction lequateur!!
jarrive je pense a lima, mais tous les vols arrivent tres tard le soir! peut ton quitter lima pour ayacucho le soir vers 23h et arriver le matin a ayacucho?
merci pour vos precieuses info !!!
lil
salut a toi !!!
moi aussi jarrive a ayacucho le 25 septembre pour un mois au moins, je vais bosser ds un orphelinat la bas! le truc c que j'arrive a lima je pense, et que tous les vols arrivent tres tard le soir, vers 23h! est ce que je peux imaginer prendre un avion ou un bus a cette heure ci, pour rejoindre ayacucho etant donné ke g un rdv a 9h du mat la bas?? ou dois je arriver un jour plus tot? que fais tu toi la bas? tu t y plais? moi c aurelie, 24ans du 78 merci pour tes precieuses infos
moi aussi jarrive a ayacucho le 25 septembre pour un mois au moins, je vais bosser ds un orphelinat la bas! le truc c que j'arrive a lima je pense, et que tous les vols arrivent tres tard le soir, vers 23h! est ce que je peux imaginer prendre un avion ou un bus a cette heure ci, pour rejoindre ayacucho etant donné ke g un rdv a 9h du mat la bas?? ou dois je arriver un jour plus tot? que fais tu toi la bas? tu t y plais? moi c aurelie, 24ans du 78 merci pour tes precieuses infos
lil
Salut Aurélie,
Je suis à Ayacucho depuis près de 5 mois, et j'y resterai pour minimum un an, peut être 2...voire 3...! Je travaille pour la coopération belge, un programme d'appui aux secteurs de l'artisanat et agriculture, très épanouissant! J'aime bcp Ayacucho, et c'est le cas de bcp de personnes qui passent par ici...on s'y sent vite bien... une petite ville à l'ambiance villageoise, des gens chaleureux et un climat très agréable... soleil toute l'année!
Concernant ton voyage jusqu'à Ayacucho, si tu dois être ici à 9 h du matin, la seule solution c'est de prendre l'avion...les départs sont prévus vers 5, 6 h du mat (1h de vol)... ou alors venir un jour plus tôt et prendre un bus soit de jour (vers 9h du mat) ou le soir (9h30).
N'hésite pas pour plus de précisions!
Julien
Je suis à Ayacucho depuis près de 5 mois, et j'y resterai pour minimum un an, peut être 2...voire 3...! Je travaille pour la coopération belge, un programme d'appui aux secteurs de l'artisanat et agriculture, très épanouissant! J'aime bcp Ayacucho, et c'est le cas de bcp de personnes qui passent par ici...on s'y sent vite bien... une petite ville à l'ambiance villageoise, des gens chaleureux et un climat très agréable... soleil toute l'année!
Concernant ton voyage jusqu'à Ayacucho, si tu dois être ici à 9 h du matin, la seule solution c'est de prendre l'avion...les départs sont prévus vers 5, 6 h du mat (1h de vol)... ou alors venir un jour plus tôt et prendre un bus soit de jour (vers 9h du mat) ou le soir (9h30).
N'hésite pas pour plus de précisions!
Julien
😉 excellent merci beaucoup !!! je vais commencer a organiser tout ca de plus pres, et j'aurai sans doute encore besoin de tes precieux conseils!
tiens, voila une question qui pointe le bout de son nez, en ce qui concerne les vaccins, sais tu lesquels sont obligatoires pour le perou?
ps: excellent, la petite citation sous ta signature ! 😎
love&peace
ps: excellent, la petite citation sous ta signature ! 😎
love&peace
lil
malheureusement je ne peux pas rester plus d'un mois🙁. Je pars le 27 juillet et je rentre le 28 aout.. Mais c'est déjà comme un rêve pour moi !😛
on va se croiser donc! je vais dans un orphelinat : casahogarlosgorriones.org ca devrait être une expérience enrichissante!
a bientôt stéphanie
bonjour stéphanie
je m'appelle Valérie et je vais a la casa en juin
j'aimerais savoir comment tu as toruvé l'expérience et te poser des questions par rapport au voyage, trajet de bus, etc...
Merci !
Val
on va se croiser donc! je vais dans un orphelinat : casahogarlosgorriones.org ca devrait être une expérience enrichissante!
a bientôt stéphanie
bonjour stéphanie
je m'appelle Valérie et je vais a la casa en juin
j'aimerais savoir comment tu as toruvé l'expérience et te poser des questions par rapport au voyage, trajet de bus, etc...
Merci !
Val
bonjour Valérie. Je me ferais une joie de répondre à toutes tes questions concernant cette superbe expérience.
Je te laisse mon adresse : lohyer@hotmail.com
ainsi que l'adresse de mon blog sur le pérou : stephanielohyer.over-blog.com
bises
ainsi que l'adresse de mon blog sur le pérou : stephanielohyer.over-blog.com
bises
le seul bonheur qu'on a vient du bonheur qu'on donne
bonjour marco ton message date de un an mais bon je me dis que tu regardes peut etre encore le forum . quelle compagnie de bus as tu pris pour te rendre de lima a ayacucho ? as tu un hotel sympa pas trop cher a me conseiller a ayacucho ? . combien de jours faut t'il pour visiter le coin ? ensuite j'aimerais aller a cuzco via abancay . l'as tu fait? quels bus prendre ? comment sont les routes? est il possible de faire la route d'une seule traite ou vaut il mieux faire des etapes ? . quel hotel conseilles tu a cuzco ? et pour le macchu picchu idem as tu des conseils ? . voila plein de questions . sinon j'hesite entre partir en janvier ou en juillet .
La principale compagnie de bus Lima Ayacucho est MOLINA: 9 - 10 heures. Le Samary est un bon hotel pas cher a Ayacucho. La principale compagnie sur Ayacucho Andahuaylas est Los Chankas: 9 -10 heures. Il veut mieux faire etape a Andahuaylas, ou tu peux visiter un lac a proximite. En janvier, saison des pluies, ces pistes pourraient etre epouvantables.
Salut, mais désolé la compagnie de bus je m'en souviens plus, et de l'hotel pareil. Aprés oui on a pris un bus pour cuzco mais là c'est la "salaire de la peur" voilà les pistes qu'on prend, mais bon ça vaut le coup je pense quand même.
Aprés pour les hotels à Cuzco on avait choisi au terminal , on a choisi le moins cher que les gens proposaient, et rien à dire il était niquel.
Sinon pour le macchu pichu on a pris le train à ollantaytambo , le soir, et on a repris le train le surlendemain matin, c 'est la formule la moins chere , du moins à l'époque. Sinon sur le forum si t es motivé tu peux trouver un gars qui explique son periple à pied.
Aprés janvier ou juillet , je crois qu en janvier il pleut beaucoup .
voili voilou, si t as d autres questions n'hesites pas , sinon va voir notre blog ya quelques infos dessus .
a plus
Marco
salut
je m'appelle Audrey, je suis à Lima depuis un bon mois et je pars pour Ayacucho début avril, pour mes recherches. Je vais y rester une petite semaine. J'ai qq questions que me conseilles-tu : avion ou bus? tu as un hotel à me conseiller aussi? et après, Ayacucho-cuzco, en avion je suppose? merci je te laisse mon adresse perso, tellement plus pratique letoupetitigre@hotmail.com et si t'es tjs là bas, on pourrait se rencontrer? Tu fais quoi au Pérou? ciao
je m'appelle Audrey, je suis à Lima depuis un bon mois et je pars pour Ayacucho début avril, pour mes recherches. Je vais y rester une petite semaine. J'ai qq questions que me conseilles-tu : avion ou bus? tu as un hotel à me conseiller aussi? et après, Ayacucho-cuzco, en avion je suppose? merci je te laisse mon adresse perso, tellement plus pratique letoupetitigre@hotmail.com et si t'es tjs là bas, on pourrait se rencontrer? Tu fais quoi au Pérou? ciao
le temps de trajet entre lima et ayacucho est de 9h, tu peux prendre molina, c est moins cher que cruz del su r et tres confortable !
salut,
il ny a pas de vols ayacucho cusco, il te faut passer par Lima. le mieux c est de prendre un bus pour Andahuylas, d y passer une nuit puis de prendre un autre bus pour cuzco. Ayacucho cusco c est environ 22h de bus mais la route est magnifique, c est vrai que le trajet est pas super confortable mais la vue vaut vraiment le coup.
Sur place je te conseille l'hotel Grau qui est dans le centre, moui je louais une chambre double pour 20 soles et y avaitt meme l eau chaude, le tarif est a negocier biensur ...
Si tu as d autres questions n hesites pas, je onnais bien cette ville et pourrait te donner pas mal de tuyaux
A plus
Fanny
Hola,
J'arriverai à Lima le 16 juin à 17h30 et j'aimerais partir le soir même en bus pour Ayacucho....
Est-ce que c'est faisable ou un un peu risqué?
Est-il possible d'acheter un ticket de bus juste avant le départ? Je suis allée sur le site Cruz del Sur, j'ai vu q'il y avait des bus à partir de 21h et qu'on pouvait les acheter en ligne... comment ça se passe, on peut ensuite imprimer un ticket?
Autre question, connaissez-vous les horaires pour la compagnie MOLINA?
Merci d'avance
xiquita
il y a une station Molina a San Luis à Lima, tu peux réserver en avance en te rendant à l'agence par contre je sais pas si tu peux le faire par telephone ou internet. En tout cas il y a des départs toute la matinée pour Ayacucho donc dans tous les cas tu n'auras pas de soucis à partir le jour meme.
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?





