Je suis en train de préparer notre futur trip en Egypte et je découvre que la visite de l’intérieur de Keops couterait dans les 150LE soit environ 20eur si mes calculs sont exacts !!!!
Compte tenu qu’on est en famille, je trouve ce tarif totalement AHURISSANT !
Je voudrais savoir si cette visite est vraiement un must à ne pas rater, ou si la visite de l’intérieur d’une autre pyramide (à prix normal) ne revient pas somme toute au même ?
D’ailleurs j'en suis même à me demander s’il ne serait pas préférable de « boycotter » cette visite ?
De toute façon, c'est pas la visite la plus passionnante à faire. Coincé entre les touristes et plié en deux dans une atmosphère étouffante... En plus il ne reste plus grand chose à l'intérieur.
Mais si vous êtes passionné de pyramides, allez à Sakara ou Dahchour, les prix des entrées sont nettement moins prohibitifs!
Allez visiter Képhren : 25 LE l'entrée et cela vous donnera un bon aperçu de la construction. Si vous n'êtes pas des passionnés cela vous suffira largement.
Post déjà usité dans ce forum récemment 😛
La visite n'est nullement indispensable, sauf intétêt personnel et curiosité.
20 Euros, c'est rien eu égard à la sécurité et logistique à développer dans cette visite, plus la ventilation qui doit assurer de l'air.
Ce site, à l'origine, n'était pas prévu pour contrer les activités des extrémistes et ventiler 150 visiteurs. Ils étaient malins les Egyptiens, mais pas à ce point.
Le must est le site dans sa globalité. Ne pas avoir peur de marcher, marcher marcher. Ou à cheval de cavaler, cavaler, cavaler. Le site donne en fonction des ressources de l'homme qui s'y présente ; n'oublies pas la phrase de Napoléon !!!
Non on ne boycotte pas ces gens là... Il n'y a rien à boycotter chez ces constructeurs.... Et si par malchance vous vous sentez floués ou avez quelconque accident, faite traduire les architectes et les réalisateurs en justice 😉
Oui on visite aussi à squara et on peut y rentrer. C'est souvent gratuit (enfin compris dans l'entrée) !
Mieux qu'à Guizeh ? Difficile à dire tellement le site est différent. Si c'est pour une sensation, alors oui c'est pareil et on est seul en fonction de l'heure . On peut avoir une pyramide à soi en quelque sorte 😉
Bien que ces grands sites supputent encore quelques secrets ils furent aussi les plus visités eu égard à leur voyance ; la richesse est plus dans le sol maintenant.
Visite ou pas, tout est affaire de gout.
A chacun son Egypte.
ce qui me parait le plus ahurissant, c'est le fait de trouver que l'entrée dans une pyramide (20 E) est tres cher, vous allez en egypte, ne manquez pas ça ou alors vous n'avez pas les moyens, alors allez en auvergne visiter le volcan vous verrez combien coutera le guide..... Donnez vous les moyens de vos voyages sinon restez a la maison.
Pour que vous puissiez visiter, il y a un réel travail et des frais énormes pour ces sites, soyez en respectueux. Si on vous écoutait, aucun site historique ne serait visitable, faute de moyens pour les préparer.
A moins d' être super curieux et non claustrophobe, la visite à l'intérieur de la pyramide ne vaut pas le coup, cela serait peut-être intêréssant si tu avais la possibilitéd'être seule dedans et de fermer les yeux et de rêver à ce que fût l'Egypte à une certaine période de son histoire😉
Par contre, faire le tour de ces pyramides à cheval est une super sensation et là aussi tu fermes tes yeux et tu penses à la cavalerie napoléonienne durant la "Campagne d'Egypre"😉
A Saqqarah, on peut généralement visiter une des pyramides à texte (Teti cette année il me semble).
Pour Kephren, il faut choisir son créneau horaire, généralement peu de monde vers 13 heures.
Quand à l'odeur d'ammoniac de Dachour, Gérard, je crois que tu confonds, à mon avis, l'odeur est surtout due aux chauves-souris qui n'ont pas encore appris à se servir des urinoirs.
Slt,
Moi aussi.
Mais je crois que geraard disait que les pyramides de Squarra ne se visitaient pas !
Pas d'excuses, juste un clic. C'est indélicat !
Bonne journée@+
Manu militari ???
Tu veux dire militari par manu 😛😛😛 du clavier, du pad...
Et la Pyramide rouge ne sent pas tant la pisse que ça, sûr. Ceci dit, jamais de chauve souris dedans, mais ça ne peut être être que ça car je ne vois mal les humains se soulager sur une tombe humaine ; Il n'y a rien dedans, mais la descente est impressionante quand même.
l'Egypte est fascinante. C'est sûrement la civilisation la plus complète historiquement.
@+😉
FRANK, FRANK, on n'est pas à Eurodysney!
Ce n'est pas le prix d'une attraction foraine! C'est KHEOPS, la Grande Pyramide, 4500 ans! Auras-tu, autre part, l'occasion de réaliser le reve de générations entières?
Si tu aimes l'histoire et l'histoire Egyptienne, ce sera pour toi et les tiens, une experience inoubliable...avec un peu d'imagination!!!
Vas-y !!!
Je veux dire viré par le modérateur, un vieux contentieux entre eux et Gérard visiblement pas oublié.
Mais je t'assure qu'il y a des chauve-souris dans la rouge et que ça se sent.
Quand à ce dont sont capables certains touristes, malheureusement, plus rien ne m'étonne.
Bonjour,
Nous aussi, nous avions trouver l'entrée trop cher et présentant trop peu d'intérêt pour nous. En plus il y a une contrainte horaire pour la visite le matin à 8 ou 9 h et l'après-midi à 13h, il mesemble.
Et ce n'est pas faute de moyen mais c'est une question de principe dans certains cas de ne pas accepter tout et n'importe quoi sous pretexte que je suis touriste.
Pascal
Nous revenons d'un voyage en Egypte.
Le prix d'entrée sur le site de GIZE est de 50 L ( soit environ 50 Francs, soit 6, 67 Euros)
Le prix de la visite de Cheops ( interrieur ) est de 100 L ( soit 13, 33 Euros )
Le prix de la visite de la Barque solaire ( 43m de long !! ) est de 40 L ( soit 5, 33 Euros )
A noter que la visite de la Tour Effeil est de 10 Euros.
Bien entendu, la visite des autres pyramides est moins chère ( de l'ordre de 40 L )
Attention, il y a un nombre de places LIMITEES pour le matin et pour l'apm ( 150 par demi journée? ).D'autre part, les tours-opérators disposent de personnes sur le site pour réserver les billets pour les touristes.
Attention aux visiteurs Japonnais nombreux et aux Américains.
Bien entendu, il serait préférable de lire un ou deux livres sur la construction des pyramides ( Gilles Dormion la chambre de Chéops ) pour apprécier le monument, ou alors prendre un guide.
Boycotter est, pour ma part, une attitude lâche !!Pourquoi faire 6.000 KMS, autant louer une cassete ou un DVD.
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I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
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What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
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-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
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Thanks
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Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
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I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.