Thaïlande et sa vie nocturne?
by Jelevoeux
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je désire faire un voyage de 1 mois en thaillande seul, pour visité le pays et aussi faire la fête, je n'est aucune référence pour l'instant je commence mes préparations pour avril, mai,
Combien peut me couter un billet d'avion vaut t'il mieu de louer sur place et quel est le meilleur endroit est t'il possible de logé prêt d'une plage et du night live si possible a pieds est t'il possible de louer un appartement 1 mois et combien pour le logement. quel budget je devais m'attendre. bankok ou pattaya ou ailleuir. les choses a voir meilleuir moyen de transport les arnaques et le niveau de sécurité pour moi et mes biens. meilleur temps pour le climat
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Pareil, lis d'abord un guide pour te faire une idée globale, ensuite une fois que tu as précisé tes envies fais un tour sur le forum dans le moteur de recherche, et tu trouveras tous les bons plans qui ne sont évidemment pas dans le guide.
On va pas t'organiser ton voyage quand meme. Et pour répondre à toutes tes questions il faudrait 10 pages.
Enfin, le paramètre majeur est ton budget, qui déterminera bien des choses....surtout si tu y vas pour faire la fête, car c'est évidemment ce qui coute le plus cher !!
On va pas t'organiser ton voyage quand meme. Et pour répondre à toutes tes questions il faudrait 10 pages.
Enfin, le paramètre majeur est ton budget, qui déterminera bien des choses....surtout si tu y vas pour faire la fête, car c'est évidemment ce qui coute le plus cher !!
Salut "jelevoeux" (deja avec un pseudo comme ça...😉)
1)Ce forum n'est pas une agence de voyage
2)Si tu veux que toutes les infos te soient servis sur un plateau, adresse toi à une agence de voyage
3) Si tu veux enlever toute la part d'inconnu de cette "mysterieuse" asie, rends toi dans une agence de voyage
4) Si tu ne veux pas faire flamber ton budget, reserve la totalité de ton trip dans une agence de voyage
5) A choisir entre Bangkok et Pattaya, je dirais plutot...Phuket 😄😄😄. Direction Patong, le Novotel par exemple, a 5 minutes du "Night live" (Bangla road) à pieds...Tu peux commencer par ici :
www.patongcobrabar.com/ (Te fais pas de film sur la "dame" en blanc 😄😄😄)
La Thailande c'est pas juste "la nuit", a toi de decouvrir le reste😉
Bon voyage Mister "jeleveux"
Aykel
La Thailande c'est pas juste "la nuit", a toi de decouvrir le reste😉
Bon voyage Mister "jeleveux"
AykelVoyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
Y-a-t-il une femme sur cette photo ?
Salut Youpi...
Bravo pour la remarque😉 .C'est toutes des femmes, Kookaï (la dame en blanc 😎) ne fait pas bosser de "Katoey", mais tu aurais du laisser la surprise à "jelevoeux"!!!! Genre au moment ou il se retrouve avec "Diamond" dans sa chambre et qu'il s'apperçoit de la 'clef' de 10 dans la caisse a outils😄!!!
Tu lui as peut etre enlever la plus belle surprise de son voyage...
Aykel
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
La surprise marchera toujours, car pour certains ou certaines même si on veut pas se faire avoir c'est impossible de dire si Katoey ou non.
Bon j'ai jamais eu à me méfier car j'ai jamais dragué là-bas, mais c'est certain que j'aurais pu me faire avoir....
Remarque, peut etre qu'il aimera la surprise....😛
Bon j'ai jamais eu à me méfier car j'ai jamais dragué là-bas, mais c'est certain que j'aurais pu me faire avoir....
Remarque, peut etre qu'il aimera la surprise....😛
Ouais peut etre, on peut trouver ca bizare mais j'en ai vu ressortir avec le sourire... mais c'est clair que si tu te laisses seulement guider par ton instant d'animal, en focalisant sur fesses et seins, y a de quoi se faire avoir... merde je fais encore une réponse en rapport à ça... je fini par croire que c'est mon sujet favoris sur la thailand...
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Ah...Thuan,
toujours la belle image qu'il faut, là où il faut,
mais j'aime mieux tes photos 😛
néanmoins, merci beaucoup pour cette pointe d'humour qui fait un peu défaut en ce moment sur VF 😉😉😉
merci khun pirandy, mais franchement on ne peut que faire de la derission quant on lis🤪🤪🤪🤪,
- Combien peut me couter un billet d'avion vaut t'il mieu de louer sur place et quel est le meilleur endroit est t'il possible de logé prêt d'une plage et du night live si possible a pieds est t'il possible de louer un appartement 1 mois et combien pour le logement. quel budget je devais m'attendre. bankok ou pattaya ou ailleuir. les choses a voir ....................... VF meilleuir moyen de transport les arnaques et le niveau de sécurité pour moi et mes biens. meilleur temps pour le climat
- Combien peut me couter un billet d'avion vaut t'il mieu de louer sur place et quel est le meilleur endroit est t'il possible de logé prêt d'une plage et du night live si possible a pieds est t'il possible de louer un appartement 1 mois et combien pour le logement. quel budget je devais m'attendre. bankok ou pattaya ou ailleuir. les choses a voir ....................... VF meilleuir moyen de transport les arnaques et le niveau de sécurité pour moi et mes biens. meilleur temps pour le climat
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Mince, comment il va faire notre ami, avec des photos comme ça il va devenir parano !! 😎😎😎
Déjà qu'il se demande comment acheter un billet d'avion....🤪
Déjà qu'il se demande comment acheter un billet d'avion....🤪
Alors là, je suis bien d'accord avec toi,
Comment peut-on... faire autrement en effet 😏
jelevoeux,
tu es peut-être pas près à faire ce voyage....peut-être mieux de retourner à Cuba. 🤪
Bonne chance!
tu es peut-être pas près à faire ce voyage....peut-être mieux de retourner à Cuba. 🤪
Bonne chance!
« Faites que le rêve dévore votre vie, afin que la vie ne dévore votre rêve. »
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
😉😉😉 Bonjour Thuan,
super image, toujours autant d'humour, cela fait plaisir!!!
Lorsque qu'on lit la demande de "renseignements généraux" du début de cette conversation on ne peut que se questionner sur ce que recherchent les gens au vue des destinations choisies!!!
- Combien peut me couter un billet d'avion entre : 600 et 2000 euros vaut t'il mieu de louer sur place et quel est le meilleur endroit : ca depend, samui est t'il possible de logé prêt d'une plage et du night live si possible a pieds oui est t'il possible de louer un appartement 1 mois et combien pour le logement. oui depend de 15 000 a 50 000 bath quel budget je devais m'attendre. entre 1000 et 10 000 bankok ou pattaya ou ailleuir. Samui
- les choses a voir temples et monuments
- meilleuir moyen de transport l'avion les arnaques et le niveau de sécurité pour moi et mes biens. Ne pas etre idiot meilleur temps pour le climat avril
Bon voyage
Bon voyage
Il n'y a d'homme plus complet que celui qui a beaucoup voyagé, qui a changé vingt fois la forme de sa pensée et de sa vie
Salut toi, salut le Québec.
Bon, comme tu as pu le voir, il y a des phénomènes sur ce forum. Bon, même si ce n'est pas une agence de voyage, t'envoyer directement à Phuket, c'est n'importe quoi. Justement Phuket même si l'Ile se trouve en Thailande, ce n'est pas la vraie Thailande sauf si tu aimes les Zoo's (sauf qu'ici les animaux sont sur deux pattes). Tu as un million de possibilités, cela dépend de ce que tu veux voir. Je constate que ce sont les plages qui t'intéressent ... tu as le littoral qui descend depuis Bangkok en direction des Iles mais des endroits comme Hua Hin ou Cha Am sont très beaux aussi. De l'autre côté, toujours sur le golf de Thailande tu as aussi Pattaya avec des plages plus calmes du côté de Jomtien avec des belles Iles en face comme Koh Lan, la plus grande ou Koh Pai (très calme et 35 min. en vedette). Plus bas Samui est bien mais aussi très touristique. Il y a un tas de choses à voir et Bangkok offre aussi une multitude de centres d'intérêt. Il ne faut pas aller en Thailande sans avoir visité un peu Bangkok. Enfin, Temples et vestiges Khmers sont vraiment intéressants .... mais là un parle de culture....
Depuis le canada, je ne connais pas les prix des billets d'avion, pour le reste on t'as déjé répondu. Meilleure période: mars - avril - mai
Bon, comme tu as pu le voir, il y a des phénomènes sur ce forum. Bon, même si ce n'est pas une agence de voyage, t'envoyer directement à Phuket, c'est n'importe quoi. Justement Phuket même si l'Ile se trouve en Thailande, ce n'est pas la vraie Thailande sauf si tu aimes les Zoo's (sauf qu'ici les animaux sont sur deux pattes). Tu as un million de possibilités, cela dépend de ce que tu veux voir. Je constate que ce sont les plages qui t'intéressent ... tu as le littoral qui descend depuis Bangkok en direction des Iles mais des endroits comme Hua Hin ou Cha Am sont très beaux aussi. De l'autre côté, toujours sur le golf de Thailande tu as aussi Pattaya avec des plages plus calmes du côté de Jomtien avec des belles Iles en face comme Koh Lan, la plus grande ou Koh Pai (très calme et 35 min. en vedette). Plus bas Samui est bien mais aussi très touristique. Il y a un tas de choses à voir et Bangkok offre aussi une multitude de centres d'intérêt. Il ne faut pas aller en Thailande sans avoir visité un peu Bangkok. Enfin, Temples et vestiges Khmers sont vraiment intéressants .... mais là un parle de culture....
Depuis le canada, je ne connais pas les prix des billets d'avion, pour le reste on t'as déjé répondu. Meilleure période: mars - avril - mai
Bien sure que je suis prêt de faire mon montage voyage, quand je vais dans les caraibes je fait tout sauf de l'hôtel c, est juste un port d'attache facile et pas cher pour moi. je couche et mange la motier du temps ses des amis locals fait sur place. Par conte j'avoue que je part à 0 et c'est le pourquoi de mes trop nombreuse question, c'est plûtot une façon comme un autre de commencer mes réflections et un départ pour savoir ou sont les ressourcent, je suis un voyageur tenace et un peu aventureux, je voyage en mixte entre le confort (lire facilité) et le pack sac (lire laissé c'est bagare en sécurité) ténéraire (lire prudent et curieux ). une chose est sure j'y vais justement en Avril après mon voyage en avril a cuba et en RD car j'ai promis allez voir des amis, donc 3 voyage en vue pour avril, mai 2008 c'est comme allez a la campagne pour moi dans les caraibes et 31/2 d'avion, cependant la thaillande semble un véritable voyage enfin por moi. Je vais allez m'acheté un bouquin aussi, comme j'ai l'habitude de faire et avec l'aide de voyage forum je serai bien préparé, merci.
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Domage c'étais mon premier choix, merci de la leçon je vais apporter mon texteur d'hormone.hihi, et j'ai l'intention de m'en servir maintenant que je suis nouveau célibataire.
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plutôt exité, si je comprend il me faudra d'abors avoir l'oeil ouvert et être plus habile pour discerner le voir et être. Super c'est comme a la télé. je m'amuse déja. J'espère juste me pas avoir de révèlation personnel sur ma réel identité. hihi, non a 46 ans c'est règlé depuis longtemps.
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Non a rien a questionné, un beau voyage, 50% de découverte (amateur de géographie et d'histoire), 25 % de culture ( amateur culinaire et sociologie ) 15% plage et soleil, surtout la marche, 10 % ( humain male et prédateur, désolé ) Pas besoin d'allez en thaillande et dépense $ 5 000 a $ 10 000, j'ai ça en stock ici pour $ 100.00 une baise et/ou un micro bec de fin soiré, tout dépent ce qu'ont choisie selon notre respect personnel, et pas amateur de plomberie sexuel. juste un bon vivant voyageur et humain. Seriez pas un peu attiré par un hommes menteur qui veux paraitre amorphe et pas non exitable, ça vous attirent! penserai pas. Serieux quel belle place comme choix de vacance. et si il y aurai des femmes en plus. encore mieu non. Si j, arrivent a attiré certaine filles en amérique du nord quel decourverte pour moi quelques temps libre avec une asiatique moi je trouvent le tout exotique, exitant, plein de question et découverte, comme un voyage quoi.
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possitif comme réponse je note.
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merci comme mes tros nombreuse question, réponse bref et claire, j'espère bien faire de mon forum un indispensable préparatif pour moi et 500 réponses, a suivent le déroulement de mes choix et préparatif ici sur VF.
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Alors la Skorpiu...BRAVO!!!!
Envoyer "Jelevoeux" à Phuket, c'est du n'importe quoi, mais par contre Pattaya et Samui c'est plus la Thailande pout toi?????
La prochaine fois que tu iras à Phuket, sors de Patong, fais un tour de l'ile ensuite on parlera...Et arrete de traiter les thaïs qui vivent sur cette ile comme des moins que rien, comme des gens vivant dans un zoo!!!
Pourquoi leur reprocher de gagner leurs vies la ou il y a de l'oseille?
Qui est tu pour traiter les etrangers comme TOI (farang tu es, farang tu resteras 😄😄😄) "d'animaux" sur 2 pattes???
Hua hin et Pattaya ne ressemble à rien d'autre qu'a des stations balneaires betonner de la Costa Brava en Espagne. Si tu aimes la mer, les fonds marins (ce qui est mon cas) aucunes des destinations que tu conseils ne vaut le detour...Phuket, Les Similans ainsi que la plupart des spots de la mer d'Andaman depassent d'une bonne longueur l'autre coté, le golfe. Sans oublier d'aller à Krabi, Phangna....
Tu veux te perdre sur Phuket :Pas de probleme...Tu quittes Patong, direction l'aeroport, et quelques kilometres avant d'arriver (Sous la passerelle au dessus du "periph"😉) tourne sur ta gauche...Buffles, campagne, plantation d'ananas, d'hévéas, seul, sans touristes 😛!
Sans oublier les trips à l'international au depart de l'ile, Hong Kong ou Singapour, pendant 3 jours (vol/hotel) pour moins cher qu'un Bordeaux /Paris aller retour (juste le vol biensure😄).
Aykel
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
Eh eh eh ... quand je parlais d'animaux sur deux pattes, je ne pensais pas du tout au thaïs..... Eux ce sont des gens, des indigènes... Normal que tu aimes les fonds marins; dehors de l'eau tu es comme tous les autres farangs. Pour autant qu'il reste des vrais Phuketiens.... pas tout le monde gagne de l'argent grâce aux touristes. Et l'argent ne fait pas le bonheur. Cela est connu!
Salut Skorpius,
Tu parlais des gens comme toi lorsque tu parlais des animaux a 2 pattes?
Indigenes? Et toi t'es qui la dedans....Le Bwana?
Parce que toi tes un farangs different des autres peut etre? De quel maniere?
Ce qui est sure c'est que je suis pas un farang "Rose crevette" comme toi, et de plus, vu l'etonnement de la part de certains Thais "muslims" (How many muslims in "French"? me demandaient-ils à chaque fois), j'ai été tres bien reçu partout 😎.... Sans parler du choc lorsque j'ai vu la premiere fois des moines, à l'aube, recevoir l'aumone de la part des thais!!! Dés le lendemain, j'attendais sur mon scooter, sur la route de "Wat Chalong", pour pouvoir moi aussi "partager" ma nourriture avec ce peuple dont j'ai eté l'humble invité 🙂.
Pour moi, ça a été l'une des choses les plus merveilleuses qui me soit arriver d'etre un farang comme les autres, etre considerer d'egale à egales avec certains types qui essaient depuis longtemps de me prendre de haut en France😉...
Devoir attendre d'etre à l'autre bout du monde pour voir tomber les etiquettes que certains essaient de me coller à la gueule depuis ma naissance: Racaille, Bougn..le, Bi.ot, Met.ques, sans oublier le dernier de la liste...Terr....te Islam..te😛 Demande à Yama, il les connait tous....😄
Pour les fonds marins, j'ai fait plus de 100 000 kilometres en 18 mois pour y gouter, ça fait pas trés longtemps que j'ai les moyens de voyager, j'en reve depuis ma plus tendre enfance, donc lorsque je voyage c'est pas pour me planquer sous l'eau c'est pour realiser un reve de mome 😛😄😉
Bye Bye "l"animal"
Aykel
Parce que toi tes un farangs different des autres peut etre? De quel maniere?
Ce qui est sure c'est que je suis pas un farang "Rose crevette" comme toi, et de plus, vu l'etonnement de la part de certains Thais "muslims" (How many muslims in "French"? me demandaient-ils à chaque fois), j'ai été tres bien reçu partout 😎.... Sans parler du choc lorsque j'ai vu la premiere fois des moines, à l'aube, recevoir l'aumone de la part des thais!!! Dés le lendemain, j'attendais sur mon scooter, sur la route de "Wat Chalong", pour pouvoir moi aussi "partager" ma nourriture avec ce peuple dont j'ai eté l'humble invité 🙂.
Pour moi, ça a été l'une des choses les plus merveilleuses qui me soit arriver d'etre un farang comme les autres, etre considerer d'egale à egales avec certains types qui essaient depuis longtemps de me prendre de haut en France😉...
Devoir attendre d'etre à l'autre bout du monde pour voir tomber les etiquettes que certains essaient de me coller à la gueule depuis ma naissance: Racaille, Bougn..le, Bi.ot, Met.ques, sans oublier le dernier de la liste...Terr....te Islam..te😛 Demande à Yama, il les connait tous....😄
Pour les fonds marins, j'ai fait plus de 100 000 kilometres en 18 mois pour y gouter, ça fait pas trés longtemps que j'ai les moyens de voyager, j'en reve depuis ma plus tendre enfance, donc lorsque je voyage c'est pas pour me planquer sous l'eau c'est pour realiser un reve de mome 😛😄😉
Bye Bye "l"animal"
AykelVoyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
😏😏 Salut le poisson... Au fond les poissons sont aussi des animaux! Probablement que si j'étais l'un de ces gus buvant des bières en longueur de journée dans les bars ou sur les plages de Phuket et vivant la nuit pour se coltiner une petite jeunette, ou encore montrer leur "richesse" au volant d'un ridicule "Chopper" avec sur la tête un tout aussi ridicule casque genre pot de chambre, alors oui je me définirai aussi un animal à deux pattes. Mais vois-tu, je suis trop occupé pour donner un coup de main à ma famille thaïe dans les rizières ... afin que les bangkokiens puissent se nourrir en oubliant souvent la provenance de leur riz. Ce qu'ils n'oublient pas, c'est de traiter les gens d'Isan de pauvres paysans ( même si au figuré c'est une vérité), souvent avec mépris! Je ne suis plus rose crevette à cause du soleil qui me tape sur la tronche, mais je reste un farang même si ici, ils ne courent pas les rues (les rizières). Comme tu le sais, je n'ai rien contre les musulmans et encore moins contre les maghrebins ou arabes (j'ai vécu 8 mois en Tunisie en étant enfant) Je compatis à ta douleur concernant les appellations diverses ... dont les français (mais les gens des autres pays voisins aussi) ont l'habitude d'attribuer aux couleurs de peau différentes du "standard", comme toi tu viens de le faire... d'ailleurs (rose crevette) 😏
Youpi, elle est très bonne!
Ceci dit, les autres ont raison. On voit trop de sites "Je veux aller au Pole Nord, racontez-moi tout". Il faut d'abord faire son "home work"; le Guide du Routard est une bonne base car moins compliqué que Lonely Planet, et plus juste pour des français (voir le demi-page sur Pattaya "Allez-y si vous voulez, mais ne comptez pas sur nous pour vous expliquer"!!!! et ils ont bien raison).
Ceci dit, y'a pas besoin d'aller à Phuket, bétonné à mort et hors de prix, pour trouver des bars, y'en a PARTOUT, meme dans les coins les plus paumés.
Ceci dit, les autres ont raison. On voit trop de sites "Je veux aller au Pole Nord, racontez-moi tout". Il faut d'abord faire son "home work"; le Guide du Routard est une bonne base car moins compliqué que Lonely Planet, et plus juste pour des français (voir le demi-page sur Pattaya "Allez-y si vous voulez, mais ne comptez pas sur nous pour vous expliquer"!!!! et ils ont bien raison).
Ceci dit, y'a pas besoin d'aller à Phuket, bétonné à mort et hors de prix, pour trouver des bars, y'en a PARTOUT, meme dans les coins les plus paumés.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
C'est pas de la douleur aujourd'hui, c'est du passé...Tout ça pour te dire juste que à Phuket, si tu veux te retrouver des BOF, tu peux, mais personne ne t'oblige à les frequenter. Vu la multitude de trip proposer au depart de l'ile, que ce soit en Thailande mais aussi vers la Malaisie, la Birmanie...Ca peut etre un bon point de depart pour une aventure en Asie du sud-est.
Mis a part Patong et "Laguna" du coté de BangTao, il y a vraiment pire en terme de betonnage du littoral, et pas besoin de traverser la planete pour le voir. Phuket est loin d'etre la plus grosse usine à touristes de la planete, tres loin meme...Pas plus que Pattaya que tu propose à "Jelevoeux", comme l'aurait fait une agence de voyage par exemple 😛. D'ailleurs lorsque tu cherches un trip en thailande sur le net en France, t'as plus de chance d'atterir à Pattaya qu'a Phuket, Tu peux le verifier si tu veux.
Moi, en tout cas, ça fait un an que je prepare mon expatriation et je pars me marier et m'installer la-bas dans 3 JOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A propos du coup de main dans les rizieres, t'es une sorte de "Charle Ingalls" version Thailandaise quoi...😄😄😄
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=YHewP3E5Ikg&feature=related
C'est pour rire...
A bientot en Isan peut etre,
Aykel
Aykel
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
🙁🙁🙁 Non vraiment pas attirée par :.."un hommes menteur qui veux paraitre amorphe et pas non exitable"...
Ce n'était pas une critique, chacun ses désirs et ses envies!!!
D'ailleurs lorsque tu cherches un trip en thailande sur le net en France, t'as plus de chance d'atterir à Pattaya qu'a Phuket, Tu peux le verifier si tu veux.
En aparte, quand il m'arrive d'aller à la station de bus de Mo Chit (sans être accompagné par ma charmante), presque systèmatiquement quelques chauffeurs de taxi avec un large sourire jovial m'abordent en me lançant "Pattaya" ? 😮
Comme quoi avec nos bonnes têtes d'occidentaux et à défaut d'être inscrit sur le front, ça nous colle à la peau... 😕
Avant la prochaine fois, je me tâte de faire imprimer sur un polo le texte en anglais et sous-titré en thaï: "Not go to Pattaya, thank you !" 😉
En aparte, quand il m'arrive d'aller à la station de bus de Mo Chit (sans être accompagné par ma charmante), presque systèmatiquement quelques chauffeurs de taxi avec un large sourire jovial m'abordent en me lançant "Pattaya" ? 😮
Comme quoi avec nos bonnes têtes d'occidentaux et à défaut d'être inscrit sur le front, ça nous colle à la peau... 😕
Avant la prochaine fois, je me tâte de faire imprimer sur un polo le texte en anglais et sous-titré en thaï: "Not go to Pattaya, thank you !" 😉
😏😎 Ha ha ... Charles Ingalls... La maison dans la prairie... Non pas vraiment, pas aussi beau et non plus très pieu ... Les rizières ... juste pour m'occuper quand je ne suis pas en train de parcourir des km. Sans être indiscret, que vas-tu faire en Thailande (en tant que job)?
OK OK ... C'est bien défendre son petit coin de Paradis.... Je campe sur ma position en disant que tant à Pattaya qu'à Phuket, le but premier de la plupart des touristes ne sont ni les fonds marins, ni les aventures en Asie du sud-est. Comme disais quelqu'un sur VF, je connais une multitude de gens qui vont à Phuket (ou autre Ile) depuis de décennies, sans jamais avoir vu autre chose!
C'est vrai Skorpius qu'il y a des gens qui ne bougent pas de Phuket depuis 30 ans qu'ils vont en Thailande...Je ne cherche pas à comprendre pourquoi, ils passent a coté de tant de bonnes choses.
Niveau boulot, pour l'instant je m'en tiens à mon job de consultant, etant donner que je n'ai pas l'obligation de rencontrer mes clients "physiquement".
Tu sais, il ne m'a pas fallut des années pour me rendre compte que niveau business, les "farangs" n'ont pas grand chose à apprendre à qui que se soit en Thailande!!! Et hors de question pour moi de me lancer dans un plan foireux genre "gogo bar"😄😄😄
Je prospecterais au niveau de ma clientele habituel (exportateur, importateur..) mais je prefere continuer à observer les us et coutumes locales en matiere de business 😉....Tu sais ce que l'on dit sur la notion de temps en Asie.
Voile un "post qui finit bien 😉,
Aykel
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
Et bien, c'est super. Je suis moi-même consultant en informatique mais pour le moment je fais des traductions des documents techniques en freelance. Je dois malheureusement rencontrer mes client de temp en temps. D'où ces foutus aller-retour en longueur d'année. Tu dis juste, les farangs ont même des choses à apprendre des thaïs dans mon métier et certainement dans nombreux d'autres. Oui, laisse tomber les gogos bar, assez des gens qui ne tiennent que quelques saisons et ensuite doivent rentrer au pays sans un radis sans compter que je ne considère même pas cela un boulot. Raison pour laquelle j'ai développé en parallèle un business avec ma femme qui permet de faire travailler une dizaine de personnes en Thailande, ce ne sont que les débuts mais ... les choses se présentent bien. Tu vois. même vieux, je ne peux pas m'arrêter de bosser ... et de créer ... sans doute la mentalité suisse😎 😉
See you
See you
🤪🤪🤪 Quels délires psychanalytiques d'abord???
J'ai raté un truc là!
Tu sais, il ne m'a pas fallut des années pour me rendre compte que niveau business, les "farangs" n'ont pas grand chose à apprendre à qui que se soit en Thailande!!!
Tout dépend des farangs... et du business! Mais je peux t'assurer que travailler avec des Thaïs, y compris ceux qui ont suivi des formations universitaires à Bangkok, est déprimant tellement leurs connaissances sont limitées et ils n'ont pas du tout la même conception du mot professionnalisme. En revanche la plupart de mes employés ont une soif d'apprendre, beaucoup de curiosité et une grande motivation ce qui est agréable. Une chose est sure, depuis que je travaille avec des Thaïs, j'ai appris la réelle signification du mot patience!
Et hors de question pour moi de me lancer dans un plan foireux genre "gogo bar" Ce n'est pas mon business et je n'ai pas du tout l'intention de m'y lancer mais j'ai plusieurs connaissances qui ont des bars et je peux t'assurer que c'est tout sauf un plan foireux! Ils gagnent des salaires qui feraient pâlir d'envie la plupart de leurs compatriotes restés en Europe.
Et hors de question pour moi de me lancer dans un plan foireux genre "gogo bar" Ce n'est pas mon business et je n'ai pas du tout l'intention de m'y lancer mais j'ai plusieurs connaissances qui ont des bars et je peux t'assurer que c'est tout sauf un plan foireux! Ils gagnent des salaires qui feraient pâlir d'envie la plupart de leurs compatriotes restés en Europe.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
Juste, il faut nuancer. Dans certains domaines les thaïs ont des graves lacunes, c'est vrai. Je ne parle que de mon domaine que je connais mieux et là, je puis dire qu'ils sont vraiment bons. Pour le gogo bars, restos européens, écoles de plongées, promoteurs immobiliers, etc. Il y a bien de gens qui ont fait une petite fortune ou en tous cas, ils peuvent en vivre décemment. J'en connais toutefois qui ont dû renter au pays complètement ruinés. Finalement c'est comme partout, n'est-ce pas!
Qualité, précision et professionnalisme, ce sont encore de mots très éphémères et pour nous cela peut devenir très gênant. Mais cela s'améliore de jour en jour. Alors patience 😉
Qualité, précision et professionnalisme, ce sont encore de mots très éphémères et pour nous cela peut devenir très gênant. Mais cela s'améliore de jour en jour. Alors patience 😉
Salut tout le monde...
Lorsque je disais" les "farangs" n'ont pas grand chose à apprendre à qui que se soit en Thailande!!! ", je ne parlais pas seulement des thaïs qui font du business mais des autres aussi, les chinois par exemple...Question réseaux notemment (tuyaux, pistons...). Avoir le bon produit ou le bon service est une chose, encore faut-il battre ce qui sont "en place", installer en Thailande depuis pas mal de temps.
Similan, je ne parlais pas pour toi lorsque j'ai ecris "plan foireux"😉...J'ai une tres bonne memoire et je me souviens que lorsque l'an dernier à Phuket tu m'as parler de certains de tes investissements (...immobiliers😉), tu m'avais l'air de quelqu'un qui savait dans quoi il se lancer. Aprés, c'est comme l'histoire du verre à moitié vide ou à moitié plein, tout depend le point de vue, il y en a qui reussissent mais d'autres qui se ratent.
J'ai eu l'occasion d'en parler à plusieurs reprises avec un français du coté de Bangla (celui avec un enorme drapeau breton au dessus de sa tete😎), l'epoque ou tu cassais la baraque avec un gogo est plutot revolu.
D'ailleurs, c'est des touristes d'un certain calibre, qui ont l'air de maitriser niveau business, qui n'arretaient pas de me repeter en rigolant "Pour repartir milionnaire de Thailande...vaut mieux arriver miliardaire"...Ahhh, la sagesse suisse!!!😛 (Ils etaient originaires de Lugano et Geneve).
Bonne journée à tous,
Aykel
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
Salut Aykel,
pour ce qui est des bars, cela dépend de plusieurs paramètres (emplacement, taille, loyer, présence du patron, ...). Je vois très bien de qui tu parles (le Breton de soi Tiger) mais si tu discutes avec d'autres de tes compatriotes tu auras un autre son de cloche. Bien sur ceux qui réussissent ne sont qu'une minorité mais franchement, à Patong, on ne peut pas dire que la majorité des expats soit constituée par des gens très compétents. Donc, comme partout, les plus motivés, travailleurs et compétents gagnent bien leur vie, et les autres survivent ou retournent d'où ils viennent. Et j'en ai rencontré beaucoup...
pour ce qui est des bars, cela dépend de plusieurs paramètres (emplacement, taille, loyer, présence du patron, ...). Je vois très bien de qui tu parles (le Breton de soi Tiger) mais si tu discutes avec d'autres de tes compatriotes tu auras un autre son de cloche. Bien sur ceux qui réussissent ne sont qu'une minorité mais franchement, à Patong, on ne peut pas dire que la majorité des expats soit constituée par des gens très compétents. Donc, comme partout, les plus motivés, travailleurs et compétents gagnent bien leur vie, et les autres survivent ou retournent d'où ils viennent. Et j'en ai rencontré beaucoup...
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
ah ok. Et bien la réputation des luganais dans le monde du business n'est pas toujours très enviable ... à cause de certains événements peu réluisants survenus il y a quelques années. A part cela, je n'ai jamais rencontré de tessinois ayant un business dans les Iles. En connais-tu?
Et bien la réputation des luganais dans le monde du business n'est pas toujours très enviable ...
C'est peut etre du à l'influance de vos voisins plus au sud😉.... Quelle genre d'affaire? Je ne connais pas de tessinois ayant un business dans les iles, les 2 personnes dont je parlais precedemment etaient des "jeunes" retraités de 50 ans, venant à Phuket chaque années depuis presque 30 ans. D'ailleurs, au sujet des etiquettes dont je parlais dans une reponse precedente, c'est bizarre comme les Suisses ou meme les Canadiens n'y accordent aucune importance!!!! Je parlais avec ces messieurs de certains projets et ils m'ont repondu tout naturellement "Ne t'embete pas à essayer de faire des affaires en France...Viens en Suisse"...Je vous laisse imaginer l'impression que cela m'a fait 😄😄😄!!!! Les tessinois seraient -ils allergiques aux iles? (C'est pour rire😎)
C'est peut etre du à l'influance de vos voisins plus au sud😉.... Quelle genre d'affaire? Je ne connais pas de tessinois ayant un business dans les iles, les 2 personnes dont je parlais precedemment etaient des "jeunes" retraités de 50 ans, venant à Phuket chaque années depuis presque 30 ans. D'ailleurs, au sujet des etiquettes dont je parlais dans une reponse precedente, c'est bizarre comme les Suisses ou meme les Canadiens n'y accordent aucune importance!!!! Je parlais avec ces messieurs de certains projets et ils m'ont repondu tout naturellement "Ne t'embete pas à essayer de faire des affaires en France...Viens en Suisse"...Je vous laisse imaginer l'impression que cela m'a fait 😄😄😄!!!! Les tessinois seraient -ils allergiques aux iles? (C'est pour rire😎)
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
Quelles affaires? Des politiciens qui placent leur argent dans des paradis fiscaux, des riches présidents de clubs de sport retrouvés au fond du lac, des soupçons de liens avec des hommes d'affaires russes assez louches... etc. etc.
Oui, certes, l'influence de nos voisins italiens est certainement aussi importante que les sommes d'argent qu'ils déposent dans nos banques luganaises ( e poi parliamo la stessa lingua). Ce qui est sûr c'est que le suisse en général est désormais très porté sur le business, aidé par une imposition assez discrète, d'une formation affairiste toujours présente tout au long de l'écolage technique mais aussi administratif et académique. Nous avons battu un record en 2007 pour le plus grand nombre de création de nouvelles entreprises! Il est vrai qu'en suisse, il y a des restrictions, mais pour un suisse il est assez facile de se lancer dans un business grâce aussi à un taux social (employés), relativement bas; ce qui n'est pas le cas en France. La stabilité de notre franc, celle de notre politique et le fait que nous ne sommes pas dans l'Europe économique, sont des motifs qui incitent à investir. Bref, tout cela pour te dire que je n'ai rencontré que peu de tessinois en Thailande et ceux que j'ai rencontrés ils étaient à Bangkok. Un seul, à ma connaissance, a tenté l'aventure il y a 8 ans à Pattaya dans l'immobilier mais sans beaucoup de succès.
Je ne suis pas vraiment allergique aux Iles. Tout dépend des Iles dont on parle. Désolé, Phuket je n'aime pas .. peut être que mes compatriotes cantonaux pensent comme moi 😏😏
Je ne suis pas vraiment allergique aux Iles. Tout dépend des Iles dont on parle. Désolé, Phuket je n'aime pas .. peut être que mes compatriotes cantonaux pensent comme moi 😏😏
Désolé, Phuket je n'aime pas ..
C'est parce que tu ne connais pas, ce que semble confirmer qques uns de tes autres posts. 😉 Car quiconque aime la Thaïlande ne peut pas ne pas aimer Phuket. Je ne parle évidemment pas de Patong et des autres plages touristiques de la côte ouest.
"There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way" Buddha
"Le vrai voyageur n'a pas de plan établi et n'a pas l'intention d'arriver" Lao Tseu
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On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
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Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
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4 nights in Krabi
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
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I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
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I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
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Time to hit the road again!
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
