Bonjour à tous,
Je ne crois pas que nous partirons en Bremach ! Le vendeur préfère le vendre à un amateur... !
Et nous, on est amateur de beaucoup de choses... mais pas spécialistes et 4X4...
Notre recherche reprend donc, avec maintenant le compteur jour qui va défiler sous nos doigts !
Départ dans quatre mois. Il faut qu'on vende le camion, qu'on achète un 4X4 qu'on fasse la carte grise, les aménagements et le carnet ATA...
Mais rien n'est impossible n'est ce pas ?
Le reste de l'aventure tient la route...
Spectacle, itinéraire, dates prévues...
Enfin sans véhicule, ça va être dur !
Bonjour à tous,
Je ne crois pas que nous partirons en Bremach ! Le vendeur préfère le vendre à un amateur... !
Et nous, on est amateur de beaucoup de choses... mais pas spécialistes et 4X4...
Notre recherche reprend donc, avec maintenant le compteur jour qui va défiler sous nos doigts !
Départ dans quatre mois. Il faut qu'on vende le camion, qu'on achète un 4X4 qu'on fasse la carte grise, les aménagements et le carnet ATA...
Mais rien n'est impossible n'est ce pas ?
Le reste de l'aventure tient la route...
Spectacle, itinéraire, dates prévues...
Enfin sans véhicule, ça va être dur !
😕
Ce ne sont pas les véhicules qui manquent !!!
vous allez forcement trouver le BB qui vous portera vers vos rêves de voyage 😉
Vu le délai restant un véhicule déjà tout équipé serait mieux (même avec qq km en trop !!!😉)
Effectivement, on s'oriente plus vers un véhicule équipé, d'autant plus qu'on a beaucoup de répet et de spectacle jusqu'à fin décembre, donc peu de temps pour bricoler.
Je viens de repérer une annonce d'un Def 110 équipé raid avec une tente de toit et 110000 kms... à 26 000 euros tout de même... De toute façon dès qu'on a trouvé, je hurle ma joie sur le forum. Le Bremach me semblait un bon véhicule, avec pas mal de plus que nous n'avions pas envisagé à la base... mais en même temps c'était un énorme véhicule, avec un gros confort que je n'étais pas sur d'assumer en Afrique...
Bref... retour aux recherches...
A bientôt !
Marion
Bonjour Marion, et bonjour à tous!
J'ai un peu honte de mon long silence! Mais je vous remercie tous pour toutes vos infos précieuses, et à mon tour je mettrai les infos récoltées au cours de notre périple. Et oui, c'est dimanche (14/09) que nous donnons le 1er tour de roue de notre tour du monde ne 4X4!
Alors encore un grand merci à vous tous, qui nous avez aidé grâce à vos infos de toutes sortes sur notre 1er continent au programme: l'Afrique!
Bon vent et à bientôt à ceux que nous croiserons peut-être en route, et bons préparatifs aux autres!
www.ailleurs-land.net
Petite question pour vous tous, très avertis : nous partons donc pour qq mois en Afrique de l'OUest le 14 octobre 2008 : 😏 qu'emmenez vous comme pharmacie pour un couple 🤪 - je suppose très succincte mais efficace. A part nos propre médoc, bien sur.
J'aimerai le savoir une bonne fois pour toute - merci à tous et bonne journée.
Voici l'ordonnance de mon médecin qui est une personne qui à déjà beaucoup baroudé : Bétadine dermique 10% sol p appl loc : FI/125ml 1 boîte Compresses stériles 10:10 4 boîtes Dacryoserum sol p lav opht en unidose : 20 unidoses/5ml 1 boîte Smecta pdre p sups buv : 60sach 1 boîte Ercefuryl 200mg gél : plq/12 6 boîtes Flagyl 500mg cp pellic : B/14 3 boîtes Augmentin 1g/125mg pdre p susp buv ad : 12 sach : 3 boîtes Paracétamol almus 1g cp : plq/8 : 5 boîtes Nexen 100mg cp : B/30
Perso j'ai ajouté : Coton Alcool à 90° Pensements Bandes : 3 Aspirine Cinq sur Cinq (anti moutiques) cher mais efficasse : 3 bombes Mousti Fluid vêtements (anti moustiques) pour imprégner les vêtements. Cher mais aussi très efficasse : 3 bombes
Voilà ce que nous prenons.
Bonne préparation, nous aurons 1 mois d'avance sur vous mais cela ne veux pas dire que nous ne nous rencontrerons pas.
Merci Guy - j'imprime le tout, je file chez le Médecin et hop: dans la musette.
C vrai que nous pourrions nous rencontrer un jour sur les chemins Aflikains : nous partons 15 jours avant les copains qui nous rejoindront à Dakhla pour traverser la Mauritanie début Novembre.
Bonne route à vous aussi. C cool d'avoir son fidèle compagnon avec soi. Toujours content j'parie.
Bonjour,
nous sommes en tour du monde depuis novembre 2005,
notre vehicule (un land 110) est actuellement dans un container entre l'Australie et l'Afrique du Sud
nous devons le recuperer a Durban a la fin du mois et programmons une remontee de l'Afrique de l'est : AFS, Namibie, Botswana, Zambie, Tanzanie, Kenya, Ethiopie, Soudan, Egypte, Jordanie, Syrie, Turquie, Grece ...France.
Y-a-t'il d'autres equipages sur le meme parcours ?
Lionel et Valerie
www.itinerairesnomades.com
Bonjour a tous, *
Nous venons juste de trouver cette discussion...
Nous sommes en couple Barbara et Renaud
Nous préparons un depart pour Février 2009 pour l'afrique par l'est.
Tunisie, Libye, Egypte, Soudan, Ethiopie, Kenya, Tanzanie, Zambie, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Namibie, Afrique du Sud
Nous sommes a la recherche d'un 4x4, peut etre trouvé ce week end Toyota hdj 80 anglais de 96 avec 200 000 km.
Nous nous posons pas mal de questions sur la Lybie et l'Egyte pour les visas et les accompagnateurs obligatoires.
Pour la voiture nous souhaiterions la revendre en afrique du sud, mais le hic... pas possible d'avoir un carnet de douane si le véhicule ne revient pas (perte de la caution)...Renaud
Bonjour à tous,
voici une annonce :
Land Rover 110 - 2, 5 Diesel (non turbo!) - 110000 kms - Année 1990
Bon entretien général - Batterie neuve - Démarreur neuf - Contrôle technique OK jusqu'à juin 2008 Préparé 'désert', options Land Rover d'origine: 3 réservoirs de carburant (160 l) suspensions renforcées 3 roues de secours prise d'air haute galerie-échellePrix 10000 €
Est ce que le fait que ça ne soit pasd turbo, c'est rédibitoire pour tirer une remorque en Afrique ??
Marion
UN GRAND SALUT A TOUS CEUX QUI PARTENT LA, TOUT DE SUITE BIENTOT !!
Bj Marion,
je suis pas spécialiste land mais quelques questions se posent quand même...
Quel est le poids de la remorque ?
110 en 2, 5 l c'est un moteur de 95 CV je crois ? ( en fait 72/75 cv) peu puissant mais coupleux ce qui est necessaire
c'est surement suffisant si le rthyme de croisière est lent et si la conduite est essetiellement sur piste.
Pour du roulage dans des dunes(par ex) je pense pas suffisant.
Merci Himba !
Quelle efficacité sur ce forum 4X4 !
C'est déjà plein de réponses... qui me donne à réfléchir mais je te tiens au courant...
Le poids de la remorque c'est dur à dire car elle est en cours de réparation... pas moins de 500 kg à vide je dirai... (oui, on est à la bourre !)
Kako m'a trouvé de sont côté une annonce fort intéressante d'un autre def équipé, mais de 3 portes, avec possibilité de 5 places CG. Bon prix, peu de kilomètres...
Bref, on cherche on cherche, on va trouver.
Remercie de ma part tes amis de l'autre forum ! C'est vraiment, vraiment chouette de pouvoir en une journée avec des infos comme ça !
à bientôt
Marion
Bonjour cvk,
Cela fait un moment que tu ne nous a plus donné de nouvelles fraiches.
Je pense que tu est repartie en Afrique.
Ou te trouves tu?. Et as tu des nouvelles pour ce fameux visa pour l'Angola?.
La famille Dor (Valphidor) et la famille Dupont (révedasie) sont déjà partis.
Moi je prend la route samedi 20.
Je ne sais sur quel forum lancer cet appel aussi, comme j'ai l'habitude de "converser" ici, je continue. Voilà. J'essssplique :
Nous allons cet hiver 2008 au pays Dogon. Je suis chargée de mener la troupe (nous sommes 2!!!) à pied pour une semaine de villages en villages. Si je suis randonneuse, mon Mari pas trop mais fera un nez fort. (me dit-il) - Que me conseillez-vous ? Marche en étoile et QUOI ? - Marche d'une semaine en boucle mais QUOI ? On laisserai le 4x4 qq part et partirions à partir d'où ....
Vos idées et suggestions seront les bienvenues et appliquées.
SVP, je compte sur vous pour m'aider car il s'occupe de toute l'organisation et itinéraire de ce voyage (14/10/08 à 02/2009) et je voudrais qu'il soit fière de moi, un peu quoi.
Je vous en remercie et vous fais une bise amicale de Montpellier où le temps est ben maussade ma foi.
Hello everyone. After a dozen 4x4 trips to this country before COVID, I’m planning another departure at the end of 2026 and early 2027—around three weeks starting December 27th. Main goal: Merzouga to Chegaga, sand, sand, and more sand. Mostly camping and a few campgrounds here and there.
After 40 years of traveling in Morocco, I want to explore a new area by 4x4—the Western Moroccan Sahara, which I don’t know very well.
I have plenty of tracks and itineraries, but I’d love some info to help me decide on the best route:
Part 1:
I want to do the ASSA - SMARA crossing. Basically, I have two options: the first follows the Draa River and goes through M’SIED, and the second is much further south, passing through LABOUIRAT and heading straight to SMARA.
If you have any details on road conditions, driving restrictions, etc., I’d really appreciate it.
Part 2:
SMARA - BIR ANZERANE - DAKHLA – here, I also have two routes.
The first heads west from Smara toward Sidi Kathari.
The second goes east from SMARA and gets pretty close to the border at one point (about 10 km away).
Both routes meet up about 150 km later and are nearly identical from there to BIR ANZERANE and DAKHLA.
Hi,
For next summer’s vacation, I’m thinking of returning to the Sahara after visiting Tamanrasset and the Hoggar, which was stunning—not to mention the Tuareg hospitality.
I’d like to explore the sandy desert this time since the Hoggar was 80% rocky.
So, I’m wondering which city I should prioritize if I want to go there in late July–early August for the landscapes, extreme heat, and guides offering 4x4 and camel treks. Also, if there are any recommended guides for those in the know and a decent hotel.
I’m torn between Djanet, In Salah, Adrar, Ghardaïa, and Timimoun.
I’m of Algerian origin, so no visa or other formalities to worry about.
Thanks.
Hello, I’m preparing for a Tunisia-Algeria road trip.
I need to know if we can cross the Sahara to reach Djanet and Tamanrasset by road freely,
After that, obviously off-road in the desert with a guide.
What do the authorities say?
My trip: northern and southern Tunisia, a stroll in the desert.
Crossing the Tunisia-Algeria border via the Taleb Larbi customs.
I’ve already done this route through an agency, but this time we want to do it on our own.
Then heading down to Djanet for eight to fifteen days in the desert with Mouloud, a local guide.
Direction Tamanrasset: road and tracks, the mountains of the Assekrem, the Hermitage of Père de Foucauld.
Return via the Trans-Saharan Highway.
Visit to northern Algeria, then back by boat from Oran to Spain.
Dates: late December to mid-February.
We’ve got plenty of time.
If another crew is interested, we’re already two vehicles.
Looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi there,
We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route).
We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions?
We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain.
Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?
Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
For my 60th birthday (yes, I’m jumping the gun a bit!), I’m starting to plan a self-drive trip to Tanzania (in June).
I also considered Zimbabwe but I’m worried it might be a bit chilly at night in June.
I’ve revisited an itinerary I’d thought about before, tweaking it since I’ll have more days to dedicate to this trip. Still no big northern classics for the same reasons as before (too expensive, too crowded, too many tour operators).
Here’s what I’ve got so far:
(Arrival/departure from Kilimanjaro Airport)
Night 1: Arusha
Night 2: Arusha
Night 3: Lake Manyara
Night 4: On the way to Iringa (any ideas???)
Night 5: Iringa
Nights 6–8: Ruaha NP
Nights 9–10: Mikumi NP
Night 11: Bagamoyo
Nights 12–15: Beach
Nights 16–17: Lushoto
Nights 18–19: Mkomazi NP
Night 20: Toward Marangu – eastern Kilimanjaro
Night 21: Western Kilimanjaro
End of trip
All your ideas, tweaks, info, and suggestions on this route are welcome!
I could move one beach night somewhere else if needed.
Also, if you have a car rental company to recommend or thoughts on the bandas rented in the parks, I’m all ears!
Finally, what are the roads like in Ruaha in June? The rental company I’m looking at seems to allow this park with a small 4x4. (Off-limits: Serengeti and Natron)
We’re planning a long-term trip starting in April with our 4x4, beginning in the USA.
We’re still looking for car insurance that covers Canada and the USA.
We’ve read quite a few forums, but we’re hoping for some help (from fellow travelers).
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi.
Do you have any rental companies to recommend?
The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;)
So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals?
Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?