Nous sommes deux et nous envisageons de partir deux semaines en Islande en Juin 2009. Comme nous avons un 4x4, on pense aller là bas en bateau : en comparant rapidement les prix de location de 4x4, on se rend très vite compte que bien que beaucoup plus long, c'est plus beaucoup plus économique. En plus, ca nous permettrait de découvrir également les îles Feroe !
Cependant, la question budget se pose quand même. Je sais que la question n'est pas évidente, mais à combien estimez vous le prix de deux semaines en Islande, hors transport, sachant qu'on pense dormir en tente ou dans la voiture et qu'on pense prendre un réchaud et de quoi cuisiner ? Il nous resterait donc que le cout des courses alimentaires, de certaines nuits en camping et bien sûr de l'essence. Je sais que la vie est chere en Islande, mais pensez vous qu'on puisse s'en tirer pour moins de 1000 euros?
De plus, nous pensons aller en Islande fin mai-début juin afin de bénéficier du ferry moins cher. Les routes sont elles alors ouvertes dans le centre du pays ? La neige bloque t-elle encore l'accès à des sites majeurs ?
Une autre question sur l'escale du ferry aux îles Feroe. Il semble que si on y s'y rend hors saison comme nous envisageons de le faire, on n'y fait une escale que de un jour avec arrivée vers 06h00 et départ vers 17h00. Est ce qu'on peut débarquer la voiture ou est-on cantonner au port ?
Et le prix du ferry ne semble comprendre que le transport et les couchettes. L'alimentation est elle chère à bord?
Voilà, je crois que j'ai fait le tour des questions que je me pose actuellement. On a encore le temps avant de concrétiser ce voyage, mais se renseigner c'est déjà voyager un peu :)
Bonjour, concernant les pistes ouvertes ou fermées : http://www.vegagerdin.is/english/road-conditions-and-weather/the-entire-country/island1e.html
debut juin il ne doit pas avoir beaucoup de pistes du centre ouverte.
Nous sommes allés en Islande cet été (2008). Les prix étaient à peu pres la meme chose qu'en France. Depuis il y a eu les dévaluations successives de la couronne islandaise donc ?
1000 euros pour 15 jours, tout dépend ce que vous faites mais sans trop d'extra vous y arriverez. Vous pouvez faire du camping sauvage partout (sauf dans les parcs nationaux mais il suffit de sortir du parc c'est généralement pas tres long).
Le prix du ferry ne comprend effectivement que le transport et les couchettes. Tu peux quand meme prendre de quoi manger sans acheter sur le bateau.
Bonne préparation et bon voyage, l' Islande c'est magnifique.
L'Islande est un pays magnifique .
Pour ce qui est de partir avec son propre 4x4 pour 15 jours sur place, il faut calculer .
Entre d'un côté le prix du carburant pour aller jusqu'au ferry et retour, le prix du ferry et d'un autre côté le prix de 2 billets d'avion et la location d'un 4x4, il n'est pas sûr que la différence soit énorme .
Au delà de 15 jours sur place la question ne se pose pas .
Pour la nourriture :
Normalement il est interdit d'emporter plus de 1kg de nourriture lyophylisée mais à la sotie du bateau les douanes en controlent un de temps en temps !
Sur le ferry il est possible d'avoir sa propre nourriture .
Les dortoirs ont 6 lits . Ceux du haut n'ont pas beaucoup de place entre le sommier et le plafond . A part ça, c'est correct .
Si tu veux un peux plus d'infos, tu peux consulter ma page perso sur http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gaetan.magre/
Désolé pour la présentation de cette page mais je ne peux plus l'actualiser !
Merci beaucoup à tous les trois pour ces différentes info !
Pour ce qui est de la location du 4x4, on a un peu regardé les prix et ils nous ont semblé exorbitants ! Mais c'est effectivement à calculer vu les prix et le temps que prend le ferry... Surtout si on doit décaler notre projet à juillet-aout pour pouvoir accéder au centre de l'île.
On envisage également de partir après le 15 juin (les routes seront plus probablement ouvertes, non?) en prenant le ferry depuis l'Ecosse (moins cher et moins de temps à passer sur le bateau). En se renseignant, on a vu qu'il existait un ferry entre Zeebrugge et Rosyth (situé pas loin d'Edimbourg). Cependant, on ne trouve pas de site officiel à ce sujet et on a donc aucune idée du prix d'une telle traversée. Quelqu'un aurait il ce renseignement?
En allant vérifier sur le site de la compagnie Smyril line les horaires pour 2009, les départs d'Ecosse ( Scrabster) et de Norvège ( Bergen ) n'apparaissent pas dans les plannings .
Ces liaisons seraient elles supprimées ???
Bonjour Gaëtan, Swain et les autres,
Il semble bien qu'en 2009, les liaisons entre Ecosse et Norvège soient supprimées pour des raisons financières...
Voir :
http://voyageforum.com/...amping_car_D2033458/
@micalement
Jean-Marie
En allant vérifier sur le site de la compagnie Smyril line les horaires pour 2009, les départs d'Ecosse ( Scrabster) et de Norvège ( Bergen ) n'apparaissent pas dans les plannings .
Ces liaisons seraient elles supprimées ???
Nous préparons un voyage en Islande pour Juin 2009. 4 personnes en Toyota HDJ 80 perso.
Après avoir contacté Gallia, représentant de Smyril Line à Paris, je confirme que les liaisons par l'Ecosse ou la Norvège sont supprimées cet été. Seul départ possible par Hansthlom au Danemark, avec escale 2 nuits aux Iles Féroe et retour direct de Seyðisfjörður vers Hansthlom.
Les prix sont effectivement assez élevés (2 fois 827€ pour un 4x4 et 4personnes, + supplément cabine éventuellement).
Salut Claire,
En Aout 2007, le voyage au départ de la Bretagne -> Islande -> Bretagne, nous avait couté 1100€ par personne pour un équipage de 2 personnes par 4X4, tout compris, pour 2 semaines sur place (soit environ 3 semaines de voyage):
Autoroute (en france uniquement! après c'est gratis... bizard)
Carburant gasoil
Bateau aller/retour (en passant par le danemark)
Bouffe (que nous avions apporté depuis la france, autonomie complete)
Quelques (5 ou 6 nuits) campings/chambres d'hotes en Islande... le reste en bivouac.
Pas un seul resto. Achat sur place de quelques denrées alimentaires mais pas grand chose.
Bref compter 2200Euros par voiture avec 2 personnes. Contrairement aux départs vers l'afrique, pour aller en islande ils sont assez strictes sur la hauteur des véhicules... j'ai été obligé de dégonfler mes pneus car mon 4x4 faisait 1cm de trop!
Une grande tente-abri pour faire a manger au bivouac le soir ne sera pas de trop pour couper au moins le vent. Nous, nous avions meme apporté un chauffage à gaz qui a été très utile... au mois d'aout.
Un superbe voyage.
Plus d'actualité dans ce poste puisque le départ d'Ecosse est supprimé, mais intéressant à savoir: Norfolkline reprend la liaison Zeebrugge-Rosyth 18/09/2008 La société de ferry Norfolkline va reprendre à son compte la ligne Zeebrugge-Rosyth que vient d'arrêter cette semaine Superfast, écrivent jeudi les journaux flamands De Tijd, De Standaard, Het Nieuwsblad et De Morgen. Norfolkline exploitera cette ligne à partir d'avril prochain.
Superfast avait annoncé en mai dernier qu'il allait abandonner cette semaine la liaison Zeebrugge-Rosyth en raison de l'augmentation des prix des carburants et des cours fluctuants de la livre. Cette suppression était surtout préjudiciable pour Rosyth (près d'Edimbourg) car elle ne disposait pas d'autre ligne en ferry vers le continent.
Bonjour
Nous avons fait en juillet 2008 la traversée en ferry aller depuis l'Ecosse (scabster) retour vers le danemark
C'est ce que nous avons trouvé de plus interessént au niveau du prix et du temps de trajet...
(c'est tout de meme un peu long, ce temps passé sur le ferry !)
Alors cette fois c'est "le FROID....BRRRRRe!!!" qui vous tente ????
Pour nous c'est peut-être en été, où ??? Je viens d'être opéré d'1 épaule (donc 4/6 ms sans 4x4!!!!
Mais 01/2010 >>>>TOGO/BENIN>>>>>05/2010. Difficile de taper de la main gauche.
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Hello everyone. After a dozen 4x4 trips to this country before COVID, I’m planning another departure at the end of 2026 and early 2027—around three weeks starting December 27th. Main goal: Merzouga to Chegaga, sand, sand, and more sand. Mostly camping and a few campgrounds here and there.
After 40 years of traveling in Morocco, I want to explore a new area by 4x4—the Western Moroccan Sahara, which I don’t know very well.
I have plenty of tracks and itineraries, but I’d love some info to help me decide on the best route:
Part 1:
I want to do the ASSA - SMARA crossing. Basically, I have two options: the first follows the Draa River and goes through M’SIED, and the second is much further south, passing through LABOUIRAT and heading straight to SMARA.
If you have any details on road conditions, driving restrictions, etc., I’d really appreciate it.
Part 2:
SMARA - BIR ANZERANE - DAKHLA – here, I also have two routes.
The first heads west from Smara toward Sidi Kathari.
The second goes east from SMARA and gets pretty close to the border at one point (about 10 km away).
Both routes meet up about 150 km later and are nearly identical from there to BIR ANZERANE and DAKHLA.
Hi,
For next summer’s vacation, I’m thinking of returning to the Sahara after visiting Tamanrasset and the Hoggar, which was stunning—not to mention the Tuareg hospitality.
I’d like to explore the sandy desert this time since the Hoggar was 80% rocky.
So, I’m wondering which city I should prioritize if I want to go there in late July–early August for the landscapes, extreme heat, and guides offering 4x4 and camel treks. Also, if there are any recommended guides for those in the know and a decent hotel.
I’m torn between Djanet, In Salah, Adrar, Ghardaïa, and Timimoun.
I’m of Algerian origin, so no visa or other formalities to worry about.
Thanks.
Hello, I’m preparing for a Tunisia-Algeria road trip.
I need to know if we can cross the Sahara to reach Djanet and Tamanrasset by road freely,
After that, obviously off-road in the desert with a guide.
What do the authorities say?
My trip: northern and southern Tunisia, a stroll in the desert.
Crossing the Tunisia-Algeria border via the Taleb Larbi customs.
I’ve already done this route through an agency, but this time we want to do it on our own.
Then heading down to Djanet for eight to fifteen days in the desert with Mouloud, a local guide.
Direction Tamanrasset: road and tracks, the mountains of the Assekrem, the Hermitage of Père de Foucauld.
Return via the Trans-Saharan Highway.
Visit to northern Algeria, then back by boat from Oran to Spain.
Dates: late December to mid-February.
We’ve got plenty of time.
If another crew is interested, we’re already two vehicles.
Looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi there,
We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route).
We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions?
We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain.
Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?
Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
For my 60th birthday (yes, I’m jumping the gun a bit!), I’m starting to plan a self-drive trip to Tanzania (in June).
I also considered Zimbabwe but I’m worried it might be a bit chilly at night in June.
I’ve revisited an itinerary I’d thought about before, tweaking it since I’ll have more days to dedicate to this trip. Still no big northern classics for the same reasons as before (too expensive, too crowded, too many tour operators).
Here’s what I’ve got so far:
(Arrival/departure from Kilimanjaro Airport)
Night 1: Arusha
Night 2: Arusha
Night 3: Lake Manyara
Night 4: On the way to Iringa (any ideas???)
Night 5: Iringa
Nights 6–8: Ruaha NP
Nights 9–10: Mikumi NP
Night 11: Bagamoyo
Nights 12–15: Beach
Nights 16–17: Lushoto
Nights 18–19: Mkomazi NP
Night 20: Toward Marangu – eastern Kilimanjaro
Night 21: Western Kilimanjaro
End of trip
All your ideas, tweaks, info, and suggestions on this route are welcome!
I could move one beach night somewhere else if needed.
Also, if you have a car rental company to recommend or thoughts on the bandas rented in the parks, I’m all ears!
Finally, what are the roads like in Ruaha in June? The rental company I’m looking at seems to allow this park with a small 4x4. (Off-limits: Serengeti and Natron)
We’re planning a long-term trip starting in April with our 4x4, beginning in the USA.
We’re still looking for car insurance that covers Canada and the USA.
We’ve read quite a few forums, but we’re hoping for some help (from fellow travelers).
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi.
Do you have any rental companies to recommend?
The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;)
So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals?
Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?
