Bonjour Nous avons l'habitude de voyager en sac à dos et de fuire les "usines à touristes"
Et cette année vacances de dernières minutes et mauvaise période, résultat : All inclusive à Hurghada..
Donc notre idée c est de rester le moins possible à l'hôtel..(peut être seulement la 1ere et dernière nuit)et de se faire un petit itinéraire sur 6 jours. Je sais qu'Hurghada est éloigné de tout, mais peut être pourriez vous nous conseiller...
NOus ne connaissons pas du tout l'Egypte alors j hesite entre nous diriger vers le Caire, Louxor ou Abbou Simbel.. bref cest le flou total...
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
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oui, oui allez sur la caire et faites la boucle
c'etait mon 1er voyage e, nov.
je suis restée 2j a safaga, puis de hurghada au caire en bus, visite du caire et de gyze, puis train pour louxor, une nuit a louxor et visite de karnac et de la vallée des rois, puis retour sur safaga en baladi
je te donnerais nos hotels et tarifs si vous le voulez, mais là ...
dodo...
Bonjour Nous avons l'habitude de voyager en sac à dos et de fuire les "usines à touristes"
Et cette année vacances de dernières minutes et mauvaise période, résultat : All inclusive à Hurghada..
Donc notre idée c est de rester le moins possible à l'hôtel..(peut être seulement la 1ere et dernière nuit)et de se faire un petit itinéraire sur 6 jours. Je sais qu'Hurghada est éloigné de tout, mais peut être pourriez vous nous conseiller...
NOus ne connaissons pas du tout l'Egypte alors j hesite entre nous diriger vers le Caire, Louxor ou Abbou Simbel.. bref cest le flou total...
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses
Bonjour,
Si vous êtes plutôt habitués aux voyages hors des sentiers battus, vous risquez de prendre une sacré fessée à Hurghada. J'ai rarement vu aussi mochard. que Ville sans intérêt, et fonds marins très moyens...cela reste mon avis.
C'est vrai que pour rayonner cela va être vite fait ! Vous pourrez peut être faire un tour sur le Sinai, puisqu'il existe une liaison maritime entre SHarm et Hurghada. Pour le Nil cela fait un peu de route, mais pour seulement 6 jours je vous conseille de pousser jusque Luxor( 3 à 4 heures). Pour Aswan il faut compter 6 / 7 heures depuis la mer rouge. Oubliez Abu Simbel...
salut
c'est vrai que hurghada c'est moche(c'est plus sympa Safaga)mais mon fils qui a habité safaga et qui va a partir de 2009 vivre a hurghada me dit que pour une semaine, effectivement c'est pas terrible, (les hotels sont laids ou kichissimes à souhait, ainsi que les ronds points, j'ai jms vu aussi laid!!)mais en general les gens qui y vont, y vont pour "bouffer" de la plongée mais que pour y vivre c'est pas mal...
yann je ne comprends pas "Pour le Nil cela fait un peu de route, mais pour seulement 6 jours je vous conseille de pousser jusque Luxor( 3 à 4 heures")
louxor, c'est sur le nil, non? donc c'est pas loin!!
cathy et remi
choses promies, choses dûes....
ce que nous avons faits:de hurghada au caire 529km, bus 65 le/p, tu te fais deposer a la station des bus .
au caire hotel LUNA chambre double en plein centre à 130le avec petit dej
tu as des bus qui vont sur le site de gizhe(pas sûre de l'orthographe!) ns y sommes allés en taxi 60 le, entrée 60le/p, retour en taxi, musée du caire, entrée 60 le
train de nuit pour louxor a 10h du soir 80 le /p, tu arrives vers 8h du matin
de la gare tu peux aller a pieds vers le nil et prendre le "ferry" a l'embarcadere, c'est 1 le /p prevoie de la monaie car sinon on te fera payer plus!!
tu as un hotel sympa et pas tres cher avec petit dej, sur le bord du canal le "gezine" 120 le. Le lendemain nous avons pris un baladi(transport local)pour20 le pour aller a la vallée des rois 80 le/p l'entrée, qui te donnes le droit de rentrer ds 3 tombeaux, quand tu fini la visite tu peux monter dans la montagne(c'est marqué interdit, mais en faisant gaffe, tu passe, de plus le chemin est fléché.De là haut, tu domine la vallée du nil sur louxor, tu vois le village des artisants et leurs tombeaux, tu vois egalement le passage qu'ils empruntaient pour rentrer apres leur journée de taf et d'autres sites.....retour en baladi jusqu'au nil que tu re traverse pour aller a karnac.entrée du site 65 le/p
Tu peux revenir sur hurghada avec les transports en commun 20 le/p
j'ai plutot l'habitude de prendre des hotels et bus moins chers que celà et jamais de taxis...(ds mes voyages en amerique du sud)mais en 4 jours ça a été plus pratique..Mais le prochain voyage que je compte faire a paques sera plus long je reprendrais donc mes vieilles habitudes !!
et voilou!!!
quand y allez vous?
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Je te remercie pour toutes ces informations. Ton itinéraire me semble sympa, je vais étudier ça de plus près.
J avais aussi pensé zapper Louxor et faire le désert Blanc au départ du Caire.
Mince j'ai envie de tout faire, très dur d'organiser 1 petite semaine de vacances....
Je sais qu on ne peut connaitre l'Egypte en 1 seule semaine... mais c est mon gros défaut je suis gourmande....
Nous non plus n'avons pas l'habitude de prendre des taxis ou des hôtels chers... Encore moins de voyager en All Inclusive ...
Mais bon comme je l'ai expliqué une semaine de vacances annoncé au dernier moment et en plus la semaine de noel... impossible de trouver des vols secs intéressants... On se rattrapera au prochain voyage..
Nous partons le 22 décembre...
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coucou
pas de probleme!!
desert blanc??? kezako ??
je viens de recevoir mon printfoot egypte, je vais allé voir ça!!
pour les vols secs pour l'egypte au depart de paris, tu as "transavia", j'ai eu en nov un billet a 183 € A/R, mais y a moins cher, 130 €, 150€..
joyeux noel en egypte donc, ou vous ne serez pas dérangés par le bruits des festivités, ni pas les fermetures pour cause de jour férié😉 !!!
Pour le trajet entre Hurghadah et Le Caire, comment sont les bus ? combien ça dure le trajet ? C'est le vrai désert ? Est ce dangeureux ? Y a t-il une autre alternative à part le bus pour faire ce trajet ?
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pour le caire nous sommes partis a 12h30 et arrivé a 19h, le bus n'etait pas tres confortable(mais j'ai vu pire)les sieges un peu rapprochés, pour les grandes jambes c'est pas terrible, sinon on te donne une petite boite repas en montantgateaux, biscuit et jus de fruit.
dangereux, pourquoi? je n'en ai pas eu le sentiment en tout cas.Le paysage est sympa, desert, ville, on longe le nil vers la fin, mais a ce moment on n'y voit plus goutte!
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yann je ne comprends pas "Pour le Nil cela fait un peu de route, mais pour seulement 6 jours je vous conseille de pousser jusque Luxor( 3 à 4 heures")
louxor, c'est sur le nil, non? donc c'est pas loin!!
Bonjour,
Bien entendu que c'est le Nil, je me suis mal exprimé. Luxor est à distance très raisonnable, Mais Aswan et Abu Simbel sont trop loin de Hurghada si l'on dispose d'une seule semaine..surtout s'il faut remonter prendre son vol retour au point de départ.
bonjour, nous sommes allés cet été à Hurghada . L'Egypte est un pays incroyable pour un peu qu'évidemment tu visites un peu . C'est un pays où la présence militaire est omniprésente, ce qui est autant inquiétant que rassurant lorsque tu arrives . Pour faire des visites hors d'Hurghada, les tours opérator doivent emprunter une route avec escorte militaire et check point régulier ce qui est assez déroutant car les convois sont composés d'une centaine de bus et de quelques véhicules de militaires en armes . Donc pour ce qui est des déplacements avec un sac en routard, cela risque d'être compliqué surtout depuis Hurghada qui est une station entièrement artificièle . De plus, l'egypte est le pays inventeur du back chiche, car et à tous les niveaux (de l'arrivée jusqu'au départ, du civil au militaire ) il vous en sera demandé avec ou sans motif d'ailleurs .
Par contre en dehors de tout cela, c'est un pays incroyable ou les sites à visiter sont magnifiques . Nous sommes allés à Louxor, et l'excursion sur la journée depuis Hurghada est longue mais à ne pas rater, vous pouvez ( devez) mettre aussi la tête sous l'eau car la mer rouge est magnifique, on a l'impression de plonger dans un aquarium, avec ou sans bouteille d'ailleurs . Les iles accessibles par bateau font penser aux caraibes, bref c'est un séjour que vous ne devriez pas regretter, si vous accepter l'idée que partir à l'aventure depuis Hurghada est franchement très difficilement réalisable . Au fait, anglais quasi obligatoire . bonnes fêtes de fin d'année et bonnes vacances
pareil, je n'y suis alle qu'une fois, mais je n'ai donne d'argent a un policier ou un militaire, ni meme a autre personne sans raisosn(sans service rendu)
et pas eu de probleme pour aller au caire, ni de louxor a hurghada sans utuliser de convois
d'ailleurs, il semblerait que les convois sont suprimer a partir du 1er decembre
chouet, non?
J'entendais juste que partir à l'aventure en bus, cela n'a rien d'une aventure .
Et jusque dans les sites visités, tout est pretexte au back chice, ce qui est clairement dans les usages locaux ; et jusqu'à l'aéroport où les douaniers m'ont clairement dis après avoir vidé mes poches dans les bac pour passer les portiques : let your money in the box, ce qui est intimidant lorsqu'on est dans un pays étranger
' J'entendais juste que partir à l'aventure en bus, cela n'a rien d'une aventure .'
En Egypte, si... 😏
A quoi pensiez-vous ?
'Et jusque dans les sites visités, tout est pretexte au back chice'
Essentiellement sur les sites.
Personnellement je n'en ai jamais paye.
'et jusqu'à l'aéroport où les douaniers m'ont clairement dis après avoir vidé mes poches dans les bac pour passer les portiques : let your money in the box'
C'est pour que le portique ne sonne pas.... 🙂
Sans blague, jamais jamais un policier egyptien ne m'a demande d'argent...
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.