Statut fiscal et voyage autour du monde de quatre ans?
by Marikej
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
nous sommes partis pour un voyage de 4 ans autour du monde et la question du domicile fiscal se pose. Boite postale, chez les parents, non résidents...qui a une solution?
Merci beaucoup à tous les baroudeurs!
Marike
www.mapamayo.moonfruit.fr
oui, BP chez les parents , c'est bien.et ensuite déclaration par internet au centre des impots des non-résidents à Paris.
Bon voyage😉
Carole
La vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille surtout en Thaïlande...
Merci, Carole, dans ce cas il n'y a pas d'inconvénients pour les parents au niveau de la taxe d'habitation? On pensait sinon à une boîte postale comme "courrier du voyageur".
Cordialement Marike
non, tes parents ne paieront rien de plus pour leur taxe d'habitation.
C'est juste une adresse postale pour les impots.
Je ne connais pas le "courrier du voyageur" , mais çà ne doit pas etre gratuit?
Carole
La vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille surtout en Thaïlande...
Bonjour,
non, tes parents ne paieront rien de plus pour leur taxe d'habitation.
Ah si... S'il y a un dégrèvement habituellement et que les nouveaux habitants déclarent des revenus un peu conséquents, il n'y aura plus de dégrèvement.
Michel
non, tes parents ne paieront rien de plus pour leur taxe d'habitation.
Ah si... S'il y a un dégrèvement habituellement et que les nouveaux habitants déclarent des revenus un peu conséquents, il n'y aura plus de dégrèvement.
Michel
ils déclarent juste une adresse postale et non le fait qu'ils habitent chez leurs parents!!!dans ce cas , pas de problèmes pour leur dégrèvement s'ils en ont un....
ils déclarent au centre des non-résidents , ce qui confirment qu'ils ne sont plus en France.Il suffit de faire un courrier expliquant celà aux impots.
Carole
La vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille surtout en Thaïlande...
ils déclarent au centre des non-résidents , ce qui confirment qu'ils ne sont plus en France.Il suffit de faire un courrier expliquant celà aux impots.
Mais ils veulent être résidents ! C'est même le but recherché, je crois...
Michel
Mais ils veulent être résidents ! C'est même le but recherché, je crois...
Michel
ils déclarent juste une adresse postale et non le fait qu'ils habitent chez leurs parents!!!dans ce cas , pas de problèmes pour leur dégrèvement s'ils en ont un....
on declare une adresse fiscale et donc on paie les impots pour cette adresse.
Donc les impots locaux vont evidemment integrer les nouveaux occupants 😏
on declare une adresse fiscale et donc on paie les impots pour cette adresse.
Donc les impots locaux vont evidemment integrer les nouveaux occupants 😏
vous etes bien sur de vous , habitez-vous à l'étranger?
Carole
La vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille surtout en Thaïlande...
pour etre sur , télphoner aux centre des impots des non-résidents....ils expliqueront la démarche à suivre
Carole
La vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille surtout en Thaïlande...
vous etes bien sur de vous , habitez-vous à l'étranger?
evidemment sur au contraire de toi!
tu ne donnes pas ton adresse a qqun pour recevoir des cartes postales mais tu declares une adresse fiscale
evidemment sur au contraire de toi!
tu ne donnes pas ton adresse a qqun pour recevoir des cartes postales mais tu declares une adresse fiscale
télphoner aux centre des impots des non-résidents....ils expliqueront la démarche à suivre
Surtout pas, malheureuse ! 🙂
Michel
Surtout pas, malheureuse ! 🙂
Michel
http://www.impots.gouv.fr/portal/dgi/public/particuliers.impot?pageId=part_horsfrance&espId=1&sfid=1250
tout est expliqué là....
Comment déterminer si votre domicile fiscal est en France ?
Vous êtes considéré comme domicilié fiscalement en France si vous répondez à un seul ou plusieurs de ces critères :
Votre foyer (conjoint ou partenaire d'un PACS et enfants) reste en France au lieu de votre résidence principale, même si vous êtes amené, en raison de nécessités professionnelles, à séjourner dans un autre pays temporairement ou pendant la plus grande partie de l'année. A défaut de conjoint ou enfants, le foyer se définit comme votre lieu de résidence habituelle, votre lieu de séjour principal. La France est considérée comme le lieu de séjour principal si vous y séjournez plus de 6 mois au cours d’une année donnée.
Vous exercez en France une activité professionnelle salariée ou non, sauf si elle est accessoire.
Vous avez en France le centre de vos intérêts économiques. Il s’agit du lieu de vos principaux investissements, du siège de vos affaires, du centre de vos activités professionnelles, ou le lieu d’où vous tirez la majeure partie de vos revenus. Si votre "domicile fiscal" se situe hors de France, vous n'êtes imposable en France que si vous avez des revenus de source française ou si vous disposez d'une habitation dans notre pays. Si votre "domicile fiscal" reste en France, vous êtes passible de l'impôt en France sur l'ensemble de vos revenus, y compris la rémunération de votre activité à l'étranger.
tout est expliqué là....
Comment déterminer si votre domicile fiscal est en France ?
Vous êtes considéré comme domicilié fiscalement en France si vous répondez à un seul ou plusieurs de ces critères :
Votre foyer (conjoint ou partenaire d'un PACS et enfants) reste en France au lieu de votre résidence principale, même si vous êtes amené, en raison de nécessités professionnelles, à séjourner dans un autre pays temporairement ou pendant la plus grande partie de l'année. A défaut de conjoint ou enfants, le foyer se définit comme votre lieu de résidence habituelle, votre lieu de séjour principal. La France est considérée comme le lieu de séjour principal si vous y séjournez plus de 6 mois au cours d’une année donnée.
Vous exercez en France une activité professionnelle salariée ou non, sauf si elle est accessoire.
Vous avez en France le centre de vos intérêts économiques. Il s’agit du lieu de vos principaux investissements, du siège de vos affaires, du centre de vos activités professionnelles, ou le lieu d’où vous tirez la majeure partie de vos revenus. Si votre "domicile fiscal" se situe hors de France, vous n'êtes imposable en France que si vous avez des revenus de source française ou si vous disposez d'une habitation dans notre pays. Si votre "domicile fiscal" reste en France, vous êtes passible de l'impôt en France sur l'ensemble de vos revenus, y compris la rémunération de votre activité à l'étranger.
Carole
La vie n'est pas un long fleuve tranquille surtout en Thaïlande...
Oui, oui...
J'ai déjà expliqué cela sur VF ! (Non, plutôt LA) Mais il faut se battre parfois pour obtenir que l'on vous accorde ce qui doit vous être accordé ; le plus sûr est de brandir un avis d'imposition et une adresse quand on vous contrôle à ce sujet.
Michel
J'ai déjà expliqué cela sur VF ! (Non, plutôt LA) Mais il faut se battre parfois pour obtenir que l'on vous accorde ce qui doit vous être accordé ; le plus sûr est de brandir un avis d'imposition et une adresse quand on vous contrôle à ce sujet.
Michel
merci pour votre débat...en fait la situation est plus compliquée pour nous ; nous sommes partis en voyage en juillet 2008 et depuis mars 2009 nous travaillons en martinique jusqu'en octobre, date à laquelle nous repartons en voyage pour dix mois ; nous n'avons pas travaillé ni résidé réellement à une adresse à l'étranger ; le plus simple nous semble d'avoir une adresse de correspondance en france, mais si nous donnons une adresse qui couvre le premier janvier 2009, il y aura forcément une taxe d'habitation nous correspondant, pour cette adresse(ça c'est expliqué partout dans les textes des impots).
par ailleurs, il est stipulé sur le dossier des impots qu'il faut remplir une feuille 2042NR si nous résidons à l'étranger et que nous percevons toujours des revenus en France (ce qui n'est pas notre situation dans les deux cas) ; ayant travaillé six mois et demi en France en 2008, on doit pouvoir considérer que notre foyer fiscal est en France...
merci pour vos autres idées!
Marike et Paul
www.mapamayo.moonfruit.fr
Bonjour,
le plus simple nous semble d'avoir une adresse de correspondance en france, mais si nous donnons une adresse qui couvre le premier janvier 2009, il y aura forcément une taxe d'habitation nous correspondant, pour cette adresse(ça c'est expliqué partout dans les textes des impots).
Oui, il faut que vous donniez une adresse en France, mais pas juste postale, donnez une vraie adresse, chez de la famille par exemple, et contribuez-y aux impôts locaux... De toutes façons ça n'ira pas chercher loin, au pire c'est un dégrèvement qui ne se fait plus, et c'est tout ; mais vous avez l'essentiel : une adresse d'imposition en France qui vous permet d'être bien résidents fiscaux français sans avoir à entrer dans des considération de "foyer", sans avoir à justifier que vos intérêts économiques, sociaux, voire affectifs sont en France.
par ailleurs, il est stipulé sur le dossier des impots qu'il faut remplir une feuille 2042NR si nous résidons à l'étranger et que nous percevons toujours des revenus en France (ce qui n'est pas notre situation dans les deux cas) ;
Mais vous ne résiderez pas à l'étranger. Votre intérêt est de ne surtout pas faire cela.
ayant travaillé six mois et demi en France en 2008, on doit pouvoir considérer que notre foyer fiscal est en France...
Cela pourrait même être la cas sans que y ayiez du tout mis les pieds...
N'oubliez pas par ailleurs que la couverture sociale prend justement pour critère d'attribution le fait d'être résident au sens fiscal du terme.
Michel
le plus simple nous semble d'avoir une adresse de correspondance en france, mais si nous donnons une adresse qui couvre le premier janvier 2009, il y aura forcément une taxe d'habitation nous correspondant, pour cette adresse(ça c'est expliqué partout dans les textes des impots).
Oui, il faut que vous donniez une adresse en France, mais pas juste postale, donnez une vraie adresse, chez de la famille par exemple, et contribuez-y aux impôts locaux... De toutes façons ça n'ira pas chercher loin, au pire c'est un dégrèvement qui ne se fait plus, et c'est tout ; mais vous avez l'essentiel : une adresse d'imposition en France qui vous permet d'être bien résidents fiscaux français sans avoir à entrer dans des considération de "foyer", sans avoir à justifier que vos intérêts économiques, sociaux, voire affectifs sont en France.
par ailleurs, il est stipulé sur le dossier des impots qu'il faut remplir une feuille 2042NR si nous résidons à l'étranger et que nous percevons toujours des revenus en France (ce qui n'est pas notre situation dans les deux cas) ;
Mais vous ne résiderez pas à l'étranger. Votre intérêt est de ne surtout pas faire cela.
ayant travaillé six mois et demi en France en 2008, on doit pouvoir considérer que notre foyer fiscal est en France...
Cela pourrait même être la cas sans que y ayiez du tout mis les pieds...
N'oubliez pas par ailleurs que la couverture sociale prend justement pour critère d'attribution le fait d'être résident au sens fiscal du terme.
Michel
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My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel