Le jour agadirien
by Tinitrane
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
A Agadir le jour il n'y a pas de vagues, cela ne sent pas le sel marin, il n'y a pas d'écume non plus.
Par contre, il y a des bouteilles Ciel en plastique sur le sable, des marées très descendantes, des frisbies, au nord de la plage le début de la fin et au sud le début du sud.
Le bar "jour et nuit" est toujours là, débordant joyeusement d'une clientèle hétéroclite. Les avenues sont plus grandes et le littoral est entièrement bétonné.
Au nord, les grues ont remplacé les bidonvilles...
Aube
Viens donc! Regarde le soleil à son méridien, et de l'autre côté la nuit foule déjà à ses pieds le Maroc. Dante.
pas de vagues si quand meme , bouteille en plastique , boites de srdines , canettes de coca en alu , couches culottes de bebe pleines de caca oui bien sur tant que les flics en quads ne disent rien et vlan on continu , de ttes façons avec ce genre de pollueurs sans fois ni lois il n y a que la repression amendes a la clés pour en fait radicaliser l histoire c est vrai ,
Pour le beton oui A Marakech aussi , Casa , Tanger , les grandes Avenues aussi il y a pletores et alors ?
Pour les grues OK mais elles ne marchent plus , elles vont finirent inertes comme la Tour Eiffel car le boulot en batiment est mort ,
Autrement bien oui Agadir est une ville Balneaire dommage que les gens soit degueulassent et voila ,
Autre chose pourquoi virer ses paquets de chips, d eau , de gateaux de pot Yaourts dans des poubelles puisque les gadiris ouvre la vitre de voiture et balance tout par la fenetre sous les yeux de la police inactive
Pareils pour le casque obligatoire en Mobylette ou grosse motos , il suffit peut etre d une paire de Ray Ban made in China pour etre protegé etc etc
la liste est longue
Mais c est partout comme cela au Maroc Agadir n est pas la seule ville touchée par cette disgrace , dommage c est vrai
Dans les bars vous dites il y a du monde bien tant mieux Non ? j avoue ne pas comprendre
Avant de critiquer le Maroc et ses habitants qui ne sont pas tous marocains, avez vous bien regardé l'état de la France ?
Les plages françaises sont elles exemptes de détritus ?
Il y aurait tant de marocains en France pour souiller nos plages ?, notre capitale où seuls certains arrondissements sont entretenus, les abords de Roissy jamais nettoyés (que pense les touristes et autres dès leur arrivée ??). Combien de mégots au pied de nos feux rouges qui pourriront sur place.
Et les emballages MacDo, les crottes de chiens sur les trottoirs, sur la plage de Deauville aussi et oui.
J'en passe..., un minimum de respect pour nos amis marocains !!!
Pourtant nous avons d'autres moyens qu'eux et très sincèrement, comparativement la France est bien plus sale que le Maroc.
La musique est le seul plaisir sensuel sans vice.
joël
joël
Après la nuit, voilà le jour...
et tout ça pour dire quoi ?
désolée, je ne comprends pas vos messages, comme bcp de VFistes sûrement
et tout ça pour dire quoi ?
désolée, je ne comprends pas vos messages, comme bcp de VFistes sûrement
Faby
Tiens vous qui melanger tout et n importe quoi , vous connaissez la baie de somme ?
oui moi aussi
St valery en Caux aussi ? oui
les plages sont degueulasses ?
La n est pas la question , je ne connais pas votre coefficiant intellectuel , mais pour ecrire des sommes de conneries pre citées dans votre post , melangeant vos amis Marocains , que l on ne respectent pas comme vous dites etc etc
celui ci doit etre a la base d un moineaux , voyez vous nous avons vu des tas de reponses a 2 balles mais celle la mes 8 collegues qui ont visionnés ce post ont ete surpris par votre connerie pseudo agressive et denouée de tous fondements logique
si cela vous amuse de marcher sur des couches culottes pleines de merde , des boites de sardines etc etc ,
Avant de dire des tas de conneries avez vous vu au moins l etat de cette plage ????
La prochaine fois essayer de vous comporter en personne logique au lieu de vous faire l avocat du diable
Au fait Roissy est une plage ????
Allez donc faire un tour sur la plage de Deauville et pour memoire si vous balancer un emballage c est 100 eur d amende
Ici la repression au Maroc serait la seule solution pour mettre les gens d equerre pas specialement pour enmerder les automobilistes avec les radars mais pour les obligés a ne pas grillér les feux rouges , mettre casque sur tete , et respecter l environnement
Etc etc , , ,
Apparemment pres de la superbe baie de somme il n y a pas de cochonneries non ?
c est vous qui le dite
La prochaine fois encore tourner votre langue 7 fois dans votre bouche au lieu de raconter vos balivernes
merci d avance
je viens de lire votre message , etonnant de faire des comparaisons aussi stupides
qui vous a demandez de comparer et d etre de si mauvaise foi?
Christian 14 est il est vrai un peu dur mais il a entierement raison ,
Si pour vous dire n importe quoi , est une prioritée , un sport , un loisir , c est bien continuez comme cela Mais gardez vos ecrits cela augmentera votre ego
A bon entendeur salut
Apparemment a quelque chose contre la ville d'agadir car c'est pas la seule ville a être dans cette mauvaise état, malheureusement!!!
vu votre "non réponse", j'en déduis que vous ne vous comprenez pas vous mêmes...
voilà qui va en rassurer plus d'un.
Faby
( Que d'agressivité! )
1°) Une non réponse pour une non question
2°) Puisque vous voulez furieusement une réponse, je vous répondrai donc par une citation, supputant que vous aurez la capacité de la comprendre...
" La critique est aisée, mais l'art est difficile".
A bon entendeur... Bonsoir
1°) Une non réponse pour une non question
2°) Puisque vous voulez furieusement une réponse, je vous répondrai donc par une citation, supputant que vous aurez la capacité de la comprendre...
" La critique est aisée, mais l'art est difficile".
A bon entendeur... Bonsoir
Aube
Viens donc! Regarde le soleil à son méridien, et de l'autre côté la nuit foule déjà à ses pieds le Maroc. Dante.
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👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)