Quelles routes sympathiques pour faire du vélo de la Slovénie à l'Albanie?
by Janodou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Qui a déjà goûté aux pays du sud des Balkans (Slovénie, Croatie, Bosnie-Herzégovine, Serbie, Monténégro, Kosovo, Albanie et Macédoine) ? Quels coins à ne pas rater, l'accueil des gens, le camping, le relief ? C'est un projet prévu durant l'été 2010 ? Merci de vos réponses avisées de la part de nombreux experts de ce forum.
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j'ai passé mes vacances en Slovénie, petit pays sympathique, varié, et se prêtant bien au cyclotourisme. J'ai randonné surtout dans le nord-ouest, très montagneux.
Je vois en gros 3 itinéraires de traversée possibles : - suivre la vallée de la Sava, qui longe le parc national du Triglav par le nord, puis Bled - Ljubljana - Zagreb. J'ai beaucoup aimé cette route. C'est la moins raide des entrées en Slovénie par les Alpes Juliennes, et il y a pas mal de tronçons tranquilles (pistes cyclables ou routes secondaires, y compris depuis Tarvisio côté italien). - prendre la vallée de la Soca (Kobarid - Tolmin...) : pas vilain, mais moins spectaculaire. Ensuite il y a a une région vallonnée avec des forêts que je ne connais pas encore, à moins de bifurquer un peu au nord pour rejoindre la vallée de la Sava via le col et lac de Bohinj. - traverser le nord de l'Istrie. Le karst est valloné et a un petit côté provençal. Pas désagréable, mais chaud en été.
Après, je n'ai pas encore expérimenté à vélo. La côte croate est très belle mais très fréquentée en été.
Je vois en gros 3 itinéraires de traversée possibles : - suivre la vallée de la Sava, qui longe le parc national du Triglav par le nord, puis Bled - Ljubljana - Zagreb. J'ai beaucoup aimé cette route. C'est la moins raide des entrées en Slovénie par les Alpes Juliennes, et il y a pas mal de tronçons tranquilles (pistes cyclables ou routes secondaires, y compris depuis Tarvisio côté italien). - prendre la vallée de la Soca (Kobarid - Tolmin...) : pas vilain, mais moins spectaculaire. Ensuite il y a a une région vallonnée avec des forêts que je ne connais pas encore, à moins de bifurquer un peu au nord pour rejoindre la vallée de la Sava via le col et lac de Bohinj. - traverser le nord de l'Istrie. Le karst est valloné et a un petit côté provençal. Pas désagréable, mais chaud en été.
Après, je n'ai pas encore expérimenté à vélo. La côte croate est très belle mais très fréquentée en été.
Merci Monique de ces précieux renseignements que je garde sous le coude.
Bonne semaine à toi.
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J ai visité l Albanie en 2007 pendant 17 jours .Les posts lus antérieurement m ont conforté dans l idée qu il ne faut pas se fier à la rumeur et qu il faut se rendre compte par soi mème.J étais à vélo mais j ai utilisé aussi d autres moyens de transports tels que le bus , le minibus , le train que les Albanais déconseillent et le ferry dans le nord pour remonter le lac de Komani.
Les points forts :
Les Alpes du nord présentées comme une zone de non droit par l ambassade de France avec des fonds de vallées superbes environnés de hautes montagnes.
La ville de Berat aux superbes maisons ottomanes,
Korçà le musée des icones et Voskopoja village de 100 ames qui fut une ville commerciale réputée en Europe et qui avait 25 églises.
Voir aussi le lac d Ohrid et le village de pécheurs de Lin , les rivages Macédonien sont à voir.
Girokaster ville classée par l Unesco.
Au nord le lac de Skadar , en faire le tour par le Monténégro (classé park national)
Tirana n est pas une ville fabuleuse c est l architecture communiste qui a sévit mais le maire Eddy Rama a fait colorer certains quartiers.Le musée etnographique est très intéressant avec une salle sur les méfaits de la dictature.
Les Albanais ne sont pas des bandits contrairement à la légende mème si le Kanun (la vendetta Albanaise existe encore.Les étrangers ne sont pas concernés.Lire à ce propos le roman "Avril brisé" d Ismail Kadaré.
A vélo on est apostrophé à longueur de journée .Ce sont des saluts chaleureux mais vient ensuite les questions pour savoir d où tu viens."Are you from, "
Quand je suis passé au Monténégro plus personne ne me hélait et celà me manquait.
Utiliser quelques mots de leur langue leur fait plaisir et facilite le contact.
Sous le régime dictatorial il n y avait pas d étrangers et leur parler aurait conduit en prison.Le premier contact peut sembler froid mais dès que la glace est rompue et qu il sait qui on est un Albanais se mettra en quatre pour aider .
Il n y avait pas de campings en 2007 mais j ai trouvé des hotels au prix de certains campings en France.La vie était 4 fois moins chère qu en France.
Les hotels sont chers à Tirana.
A ta disposition pour d autres renseignements et bonne préparation.
Jean
Qui a déjà goûté aux pays du sud des Balkans (Slovénie, Croatie, Bosnie-Herzégovine,
bonsoir, je rentre de Bosnie, slovénie croatie est:
la route monte, surtout en Slovénie et en Bosnie, pas beaucoup de circulation, routes en état moyen et c'est vallonné jusque vers VITEZ. ensuite Sarajevo, plus de circulation, les gens sont accueillants; j'envisage en 2010 une virée le long du Danube de la mer noire à Fribourg. En passant par bucarest, belgrade, sarajevo (hors danube), budapest, vienne, reginsburg, munich et fribourg, donauquette. bonne soirée et bon voyage;
bonsoir, je rentre de Bosnie, slovénie croatie est:
la route monte, surtout en Slovénie et en Bosnie, pas beaucoup de circulation, routes en état moyen et c'est vallonné jusque vers VITEZ. ensuite Sarajevo, plus de circulation, les gens sont accueillants; j'envisage en 2010 une virée le long du Danube de la mer noire à Fribourg. En passant par bucarest, belgrade, sarajevo (hors danube), budapest, vienne, reginsburg, munich et fribourg, donauquette. bonne soirée et bon voyage;
Merci de ces précieuses informations André.
Comme tu as l'air de connaître, je reviendrai sans doute vers toi pour d'autres détails si cela ne te gêne pas.
Bonne journée.
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Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon







