Trek au Ladakh en juin 2010
by Matthnorm
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous souhaitons effectuer un treck en couple, dans le Ladakh du 1 juin au 20 juin après avoir épluché le forum, ma question se porte sur la météo en ce début juin dans cette region et les trecks rèalisables en fonction de celle ci. Nous avons sélectionné quelques trecks : LAMAYURU/PADUM pour son coté beau et sauvage ; DARSHA/PADUM pour son coté plus "simple". Puis il y a la zone Rumtse et le lac de tsomoriri qui nous attirent aussi. Bref quelques idées mais rien de bien concret.
Si certains avaient par leurs expériences des conseils merci.
Bonjour
j'ai fait les 2 treks dont vous parlez, mais dans le sens Padum-Lamayuru (que nous avions rallongé au-delà) et Pdum-darsha ; le premier est plus physique car on traverse les vallées, donc on descend et on monte parfois plusieurs fois dans la même journée ; le second est plus "tranquille", peut-être légèrement moins impressionnant car moins de cols.
Les 2 sont beaux ...
je ne connais pas les treks vers tsomoriri.
Bon voyage !
Bon voyage !
Bonjour
Partez vous en avion pour leh ou en bus ? car à cette période, c'est souvent nuageux et comme vous savez certainement LEH n'a pas de tour de contrôle donc si mauvais temps ils n'atterrissent pas ... en 2007, nous sommes arrivés vers le 28 juin, et ce n'est que le 3ème vol DELHI LEH ou nous avons pu atterir car les conditions climatiques était mauvaises et le pilote a essayé d'atterrir plusieurs fois, en vain donc retour sur DELHI 2 fois de suite et la 3ème était la bonne... donc un conseil déjà, prendre le 1er vol a 5h30... si jamais vous devez vous réinscrire sur un autre vol.... de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
Pour ce qui est des treks, en 2005 nous avons fait padum lamayuru, en 10 jours, assez soutenu quand même, 2 cols assez hauts a franchir et de bons dénivelés. Nous sommes également allés dans la région du tsomoriri, vous pouvez y faire le tour du lac en 5 ou 6 jours me semble t'il... très belle région, désertique, peu de mondes... la vallée de la nubra est jolie aussi mais il y a le col a plus de 5000 m a passer ce que je vous déconseille en début de séjour... en 2007, nous y sommes retournés, et avons fait le petit trek de likir à Khalsé en 4 jours histoire de s'acclimater et de chilling au tso kar en 10 jours environ, trés beau trek dans la vallée de la markha au début puis bifurcation a Hankar pour le Zalung karpo la, un trek moins fréquenté que chilling - hemis par exemple... le col est a 5200 m mais il se fait assez bien... montée progressive et longue... la descente dans la vallée du rusphu est magnifique, sauvage, mais la il vous faut la tente, la bouffe etc.. pas de lodges ni de tentes d'approvisionnement.. rencontres avec des nomades sur le plateau du changtang et l'arrivée au tso kar majestueuse... j'ai bcp aimé !
Nous connaissons un ami la bas qui est guide de montagne si jamais, il faut compter 50euros par jour par pers tout compris (pension complète, trajets en voiture etc..hotel a leh etc..) a savoir que pour le tsomoriri la nubra, le pangong tso il faut un permis et c'est un peu plus $$$ !
voilà... espérant avoir répondu a ta question... si tu en as d'autres n'hésites pas
Partez vous en avion pour leh ou en bus ? car à cette période, c'est souvent nuageux et comme vous savez certainement LEH n'a pas de tour de contrôle donc si mauvais temps ils n'atterrissent pas ... en 2007, nous sommes arrivés vers le 28 juin, et ce n'est que le 3ème vol DELHI LEH ou nous avons pu atterir car les conditions climatiques était mauvaises et le pilote a essayé d'atterrir plusieurs fois, en vain donc retour sur DELHI 2 fois de suite et la 3ème était la bonne... donc un conseil déjà, prendre le 1er vol a 5h30... si jamais vous devez vous réinscrire sur un autre vol.... de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
Pour ce qui est des treks, en 2005 nous avons fait padum lamayuru, en 10 jours, assez soutenu quand même, 2 cols assez hauts a franchir et de bons dénivelés. Nous sommes également allés dans la région du tsomoriri, vous pouvez y faire le tour du lac en 5 ou 6 jours me semble t'il... très belle région, désertique, peu de mondes... la vallée de la nubra est jolie aussi mais il y a le col a plus de 5000 m a passer ce que je vous déconseille en début de séjour... en 2007, nous y sommes retournés, et avons fait le petit trek de likir à Khalsé en 4 jours histoire de s'acclimater et de chilling au tso kar en 10 jours environ, trés beau trek dans la vallée de la markha au début puis bifurcation a Hankar pour le Zalung karpo la, un trek moins fréquenté que chilling - hemis par exemple... le col est a 5200 m mais il se fait assez bien... montée progressive et longue... la descente dans la vallée du rusphu est magnifique, sauvage, mais la il vous faut la tente, la bouffe etc.. pas de lodges ni de tentes d'approvisionnement.. rencontres avec des nomades sur le plateau du changtang et l'arrivée au tso kar majestueuse... j'ai bcp aimé !
Nous connaissons un ami la bas qui est guide de montagne si jamais, il faut compter 50euros par jour par pers tout compris (pension complète, trajets en voiture etc..hotel a leh etc..) a savoir que pour le tsomoriri la nubra, le pangong tso il faut un permis et c'est un peu plus $$$ !
voilà... espérant avoir répondu a ta question... si tu en as d'autres n'hésites pas
J'ai effectue plusieurs treks dans cette region, je vous confirme que c'est une bonne periode, car il y a un peu moins de monde. Effectivement, pour tsomoriri cela occasionnera bcp plus de frais.
il y a beaucoup de prestataires a leh pour effectuer ces treks, il est toujours preferable de passer par eux directement, et d'essayer d'en trouver qui ont une gestion assez 'equitable' avec leur equipe....
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50€ par jour et par personne, c'est vraiment exagéré (on a déjà eu une discussion à ce sujet sur le forum à peu près à la même époque l'an dernier). 35€ me parait plus raisonnable, mais ça dépend aussi de la taille du groupe (plus cher pour 2 personnes, moins cher pour 5-6 personnes) et de la capacité de négociation de chacun. Cela dit, des prix trop tirés vers le bas peuvent se faire au détriment de la qualité du service (même si des prix élevés ne sont pas non plus une garantie de bon niveau de service...).
D'autre part, les permis (Tso Moriri, Nubra Valley, Pangong Tso) ne coûtent pas grand chose, on paie surtout la comm' de l'agence qui s'en occupe (qui peut varier grandement...). Il est possible d'aller le chercher soit-même, mais ça ne vaut pas le coup de s'embêter et de perdre des heures pour qqs malheureux euros.
de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
La route ouvre en général vers la fin-mai, parfois plus tôt début mai, parfois plus tard début juin, et plus rarement vers la mi-juin. Mais elle peut fermer à n'importe quel moment, y compris au milieu de l'été à cause de glissement de terrain ou de chute de neige ponctuelle. Depuis qqs années, la DDE locale ("BRO" = Boarder Road Organization) tente d'ouvrir de plus en plus tôt et se retrouve à devoir évacuer des gens bloqués par des chutes de neige tardives. Cette année, ils ont commencé à dégager le 1er col (Rothang La) et ciblent sur une ouverture de la route jusqu'à Sarchu fin avril... (http://vistet.wordpress.com).
D'autre part, les permis (Tso Moriri, Nubra Valley, Pangong Tso) ne coûtent pas grand chose, on paie surtout la comm' de l'agence qui s'en occupe (qui peut varier grandement...). Il est possible d'aller le chercher soit-même, mais ça ne vaut pas le coup de s'embêter et de perdre des heures pour qqs malheureux euros.
de toute facon en bus, la route est impratiquable, a cause de la neige et pluie et des cols en altitude.
La route ouvre en général vers la fin-mai, parfois plus tôt début mai, parfois plus tard début juin, et plus rarement vers la mi-juin. Mais elle peut fermer à n'importe quel moment, y compris au milieu de l'été à cause de glissement de terrain ou de chute de neige ponctuelle. Depuis qqs années, la DDE locale ("BRO" = Boarder Road Organization) tente d'ouvrir de plus en plus tôt et se retrouve à devoir évacuer des gens bloqués par des chutes de neige tardives. Cette année, ils ont commencé à dégager le 1er col (Rothang La) et ciblent sur une ouverture de la route jusqu'à Sarchu fin avril... (http://vistet.wordpress.com).
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50 euros c'est pour 2 personnes...et vraiment tout compris... y compris permis etc.. c'est moins cher en partant en groupe normal !!!
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh c'est tout de même assez rare qu'elle ouvre mi mai... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
50 euros c'est pour 2 personnes...et vraiment tout compris... y compris permis etc.. c'est moins cher en partant en groupe normal !!!
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh c'est tout de même assez rare qu'elle ouvre mi mai... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
Voici la discussion que nous avons eu l'an dernier : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2626586
Et comme je l'ai dit, les permis ne coûtent en théorie par grand chose, en tous cas pas plus d'une centaine de roupies par personne et par jour. Après, chacun paie ce qu'il veut !
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
La Palisse n'aurait pas dit mieux ! D'ailleurs la route peut fermer même en plein mois de juillet ou août (ça arrive tous les ans 1 ou 2 fois).
L'an dernier, elle a vaguement ouvert vers le 20 mai, puis refermé, pour finalement être vraiment opérationnelle début juin. En 2008 et en 2007, ouverture totale et sans réserve mi-mai (quand le panneau dit "ouvert", ça veut dire que les bus peuvent passer). Idem en 2006 (mais grosses chutes de neige courant juin). En 2005, elle n'a pas pu ouvrir avant mi-juin. Certains passent avant l'ouverture officielle (en jeep ou en moto), mais ça doit être "chaud" (http://vistet.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/manali-leh-white-out).
Pour la route qui relie Delhi à Leh... tout dépend des conditions climatiques sur place !
La Palisse n'aurait pas dit mieux ! D'ailleurs la route peut fermer même en plein mois de juillet ou août (ça arrive tous les ans 1 ou 2 fois).
L'an dernier, elle a vaguement ouvert vers le 20 mai, puis refermé, pour finalement être vraiment opérationnelle début juin. En 2008 et en 2007, ouverture totale et sans réserve mi-mai (quand le panneau dit "ouvert", ça veut dire que les bus peuvent passer). Idem en 2006 (mais grosses chutes de neige courant juin). En 2005, elle n'a pas pu ouvrir avant mi-juin. Certains passent avant l'ouverture officielle (en jeep ou en moto), mais ça doit être "chaud" (http://vistet.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/manali-leh-white-out).
Transhimalaya Trois Roues pour le Toit du Monde (http://transhimalaya.blogspot.com)
"Appuyez-vous sur les principes : ils finiront bien par céder !" (Oscar Wilde)
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From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike. It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Pascal
Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro




