Durée exacte d'un voyage en avion vers la Thaïlande?
by Buffalotte
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
J'ai vu sur Internet que la plupart des voyages discount duraient entre 18 et 22h. Or, compte tenu du décalage horaire, combien de temps dure-t-il réellement ? parceque vu mon handicap, 18h en avion je ne tiendrais même avec une escale de 5h confinée dans un aéroport.
Merci et bonne soirée.
Bonsoir ,
En vol direct avec la Thaï Airwais Paris >> Bangkok 11 heures de vol sans escale bien sur , pour le retour toujours en vol direct Bangkok >> Paris 12 heures 40 de vol en direct toujours avec la Thaï Airways . Maintenant selon les compagnies les escales sont courtes ou longues à voir lors des réservations de différentes compagnies .
En vol direct avec la Thaï Airwais Paris >> Bangkok 11 heures de vol sans escale bien sur , pour le retour toujours en vol direct Bangkok >> Paris 12 heures 40 de vol en direct toujours avec la Thaï Airways . Maintenant selon les compagnies les escales sont courtes ou longues à voir lors des réservations de différentes compagnies .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Merci mais, c'est quand même 3000 euros le voyage et pour 17h avec 3 escales au départ de Bordeaux.
Je cherche plutôt dans les 1000 euros maxi.
Quel est le décalage horaire? en plus ou en moins ?
Salut
3000 Euros pour aller en Thailande , c est de la première classe qu on parle là
Donnes tes dates , et si c est des dates fixes ou pas , le prix peut varier
Tu peux avoir des vols avec des escales courtes , suffit juste de bien regarder
Bon vol
3000 Euros pour aller en Thailande , c est de la première classe qu on parle là
Donnes tes dates , et si c est des dates fixes ou pas , le prix peut varier
Tu peux avoir des vols avec des escales courtes , suffit juste de bien regarder
Bon vol
c'est quand même 3000 euros le voyage et pour 17h avec 3 escales au départ de Bordeaux.
Ouf 3000 € très très cher à ce tarif là j'espère que c'est en classe business . 😉
Je cherche plutôt dans les 1000 euros maxi.
Bien sur tout à fait faisable à ce tarif voir les témoignages ici sur VF . Mais à quelle période tu y vas ?? .
Quel est le décalage horaire? en plus ou en moins ?
5 heures en ce moment et 6 heures en hiver .
Ouf 3000 € très très cher à ce tarif là j'espère que c'est en classe business . 😉
Je cherche plutôt dans les 1000 euros maxi.
Bien sur tout à fait faisable à ce tarif voir les témoignages ici sur VF . Mais à quelle période tu y vas ?? .
Quel est le décalage horaire? en plus ou en moins ?
5 heures en ce moment et 6 heures en hiver .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
La plupart des comparateurs et des voyagistes indiquent les durées de voyage mais aussi les durées de vols.
Si vous voulez aller au plus court, vous trouverez des tarifs sur la Thaï à moins de 800 euros, hors vacances scolaires d'été, voire dans les 650 euros lors des mois creux et promos.
Les vols sur Air france sont de la même durée, mais en général un peu plus chers.
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
+ 5 heures en ce moment
un truc pour le décalage horaire France / Thailande
3 000 Euro d'avion pour venir en Thailande, .... Il ne reste plus rien a dépenser ici ! 😕
un truc pour le décalage horaire France / Thailande
3 000 Euro d'avion pour venir en Thailande, .... Il ne reste plus rien a dépenser ici ! 😕
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
bonjour,
si tu prends un vol direct avec la thai a paris tu as 11 a 12 heures de vol pour arriver a BANGKOK ANNE
si tu prends un vol direct avec la thai a paris tu as 11 a 12 heures de vol pour arriver a BANGKOK ANNE
+ 5 heures en ce moment
un truc pour le décalage horaire France / Thailande
3 000 Euro d'avion pour venir en Thailande, .... Il ne reste plus rien a dépenser ici ! 😕
Salut Phénix , 😉
Tu as raison j'avais oublier le + , midi en France = 17 heures en Thaïlande en ce moment .
En effet 3000 € le billet d'avion reste plus grand dans le budget . 🤪
un truc pour le décalage horaire France / Thailande
3 000 Euro d'avion pour venir en Thailande, .... Il ne reste plus rien a dépenser ici ! 😕
Salut Phénix , 😉
Tu as raison j'avais oublier le + , midi en France = 17 heures en Thaïlande en ce moment .
En effet 3000 € le billet d'avion reste plus grand dans le budget . 🤪
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
bonjour,
si tu prends un vol direct avec la thai a paris tu as 11 a 12 heures de vol pour arriver a BANGKOK
Bonjour ,
Paris >> Bangkok ne dépasse pas les 11 heures de vol , le retour oui voir plus 12 heures 40 exactement . 😉
si tu prends un vol direct avec la thai a paris tu as 11 a 12 heures de vol pour arriver a BANGKOK
Bonjour ,
Paris >> Bangkok ne dépasse pas les 11 heures de vol , le retour oui voir plus 12 heures 40 exactement . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Oui, ce temps est entre Paris et Bangkok, il semble en effet qu'il y est une longue escale à Charles de Gaule si elle prend l'avion de Bordeaux, mais il doit y avoir la possibilité de TGV directe Bordeaux / Charles de Gaule ... peut être avec une moins longue attente.
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
Il n y a pas de temps, il n est jamais trop tard ou trop tot pour faire ce que tu as a faire
Les temps de vol moyen sur la Thaï sont de 11h15 et 12h, et lors de mes deux derniers voyages, l'avion est arrivé à Paris avec 30 min d'avance.
http://www.thaiairways.fr/fr/thai/l-offre-depuis-paris/horaires-et-n-de-vol
http://www.thaiairways.fr/fr/thai/l-offre-depuis-paris/horaires-et-n-de-vol
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Salut,
En Décembre dernier alors que la veille tout semblait bien pour un départ au soleil; - Grèves des transports publics - Gels et neiges sur les routes - Embouteillages monstres sur les routes - 3h30 pour rejoindre l'aéroport en partant de la porte de gentilly (paris 13) - A l'aéroport, la navette est en panne alors qu'il me reste 30 minutes pour enregistrer. - En salle d'embarquement, on m'annonce qu'il y a 1h30 de retard ( la pression retombe, mais suis quand même une vraie cocotte minute)🏴☠️ - Une fois embarqué, le ponpon🏴☠️😕🤪, on attend 5h dans le "zing" pour dégivrage de la carlingue et des ailes. Résultat; presque 18h pour rejoindre BKK en vol direct.
Fait, bien entendu, exeptionnel mais cela peut arriver......pfff! pourquoi moiiiiii?😠*
Bref ! en temps normal et en vol direct, c'est un peu moins de 11h l'aller et une douzaine d'heures le retour suivant les vents😉
Bon voyage
En Décembre dernier alors que la veille tout semblait bien pour un départ au soleil; - Grèves des transports publics - Gels et neiges sur les routes - Embouteillages monstres sur les routes - 3h30 pour rejoindre l'aéroport en partant de la porte de gentilly (paris 13) - A l'aéroport, la navette est en panne alors qu'il me reste 30 minutes pour enregistrer. - En salle d'embarquement, on m'annonce qu'il y a 1h30 de retard ( la pression retombe, mais suis quand même une vraie cocotte minute)🏴☠️ - Une fois embarqué, le ponpon🏴☠️😕🤪, on attend 5h dans le "zing" pour dégivrage de la carlingue et des ailes. Résultat; presque 18h pour rejoindre BKK en vol direct.
Fait, bien entendu, exeptionnel mais cela peut arriver......pfff! pourquoi moiiiiii?😠*
Bref ! en temps normal et en vol direct, c'est un peu moins de 11h l'aller et une douzaine d'heures le retour suivant les vents😉
Bon voyage
Le " cri tiqueur " est le rêveur qui ne s'assume pas !
Special dedication ;)
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Bref ! en temps normal et en vol direct, c'est un peu moins de 11h l'aller et une douzaine d'heures le retour suivant les vents😉
Salut Sawasdie ,
Exact +1 .
Salut Sawasdie ,
Exact +1 .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
et oui les containtes du voyage mais c est un choix, il faut savoir oublier le temps puisqu il n existe pas pour celui qui l a oublie
Un jour lors d'un voyage en Nouvelle Zélande 26 heures de vol avec quelques heures d'escale à Singapour , je n'ai pas vu le temps passer perso quand je suis dans un avion je suis bien . 😉
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
l essentiel c est d etre bien avec soi meme le reste n existe pas vous le voyez avec les yeux que vous avez choisi de voir
Poste très philosophique, ... mais si je me réfère au poste initial, la dame risque de voir les temps d'attentes trop longs avec les yeux de la douleur ! 😕
parce-que vu mon handicap, 18h en avion je ne tiendrais même avec une escale de 5h confinée dans un aéroport.
Tout est relatif bien sûr, j'espère qu'elle aura trouvé réponse en triant dans celles-ci.
parce-que vu mon handicap, 18h en avion je ne tiendrais même avec une escale de 5h confinée dans un aéroport.
Tout est relatif bien sûr, j'espère qu'elle aura trouvé réponse en triant dans celles-ci.
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
Bonjour et merci de toutes vos réponses.
Nous sommes en train de prévoir un voyage pour novembre 2011 (oui, j'ai bien écrit) car, pour cette année trop de rendez vous médicaux programmés sur la fin d'année.
Nous envisagerions de rester jusqu'au début 2012.
Je commence donc à organiser, et, les économies à faire, les sites à voir, les poses détentes pour ma santé et tout et tout.
J'aurais certainement recours à votre aide au moment de réserver car, ça ne me semble pas si simple.
Quand à l'idée du tgv pour Paris, c'est à creuser d'autant que j'ai largement le temps de refaire nos cartes familles nombreuses et dormir chez mon neveux à Roissy.
Début 2011, nous nous occupons des passeports.
salut prend le tgv bordeaux lille-europe il s'arrête a cdg environ 3 heures avant le départ avec le vol thaï airways simple et rapide ( bordeaux cdg environ3h30 + 3 heures pour l'embarquement + 10h30 -11h00 le vol plus vite connait pas)😎bonnes futures vacances
les voyages forment la jeunesse , vive la retraite
Tu t'y prends bien tôt!!!
Il faut savoir que avec Air France, le billet coûte le même prix au départ de ta ville, qu'au départ de Paris.
Nous avons notre billet pour le 8 janvier au départ de Marseille : 450€, notre retour est prévu le 8 février : 429€.
Je ne trouve pas que ce soit cher! Plus on réserve tôt, moins c'est cher.
Nous pourrions partir de Nice avec "Emirates", cela nous ferait économiser 100€, mais il y a une longue escale à Dubaï.
Cordialement.
ghinaine
Il est en effet trop tôt pour réserver d'autant que l'on ne sait ce qui se passera dans 18 mois environ.
Par contre je viens de réaliser que, s'il y a un décalage de 5h en plus, cela signifie que lorsque la compagnie annonce un voyage de 12h (par exemple départ 6h arrivée 18 h) on ne resterait que réellement 7 heures en vols? ou l'inverse ?
Par contre je viens de réaliser que, s'il y a un décalage de 5h en plus, cela signifie que lorsque la compagnie annonce un voyage de 12h (par exemple départ 6h arrivée 18 h) on ne resterait que réellement 7 heures en vols? ou l'inverse ?
Si on annonce 12 heures de vol , décalage d'horaire ou pas ce sera toujours 12 heures de vol .
Si on annonce 12 heures de vol , décalage d'horaire ou pas ce sera toujours 12 heures de vol .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
s'il y a un décalage de 5h en plus, cela signifie que lorsque la compagnie annonce un voyage de 12h (par exemple départ 6h arrivée 18 h) on ne resterait que réellement 7 heures en vols? ou l'inverse ?
C'est comment ton Pseudo ? Buffalotte, ... Allez vas, tu es rigolote ... et le tour du monde tu le fais en 81 ou 80 jours ? en tous est relatif mon cher Einstein, il ni qu'à prendre l'avion pour remonter te temps ! 🤪
C'est comment ton Pseudo ? Buffalotte, ... Allez vas, tu es rigolote ... et le tour du monde tu le fais en 81 ou 80 jours ? en tous est relatif mon cher Einstein, il ni qu'à prendre l'avion pour remonter te temps ! 🤪
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
Moqueur!😊!! C'était naîf certe mais, j'espérais.............
Sinon, non, le tour du monde me prendrais plus de temps.
Nous avons mis 4 semaines pour traverser le sud du Portugal en camping car a la vitesse d'un escargot et la curiosité d'une fouine.
Enfin, c'est gentil de me rassurer. 12 h ce sera 12h.
sait une blague...😛
sinon tu part de certain pays , avec pas le meme fuseau horaires , avec un pe de chance tu pe arriver 02 j , avant d etre parti...lol...😉
la bonne taille c' est quand les deux pieds touchent par terre!!
Pour ces messieurs, la moralité devient rigide quand le reste ne l'est plus." coluche !!!
http://02moisenasiebyfuncky062.blogspot.com/
http://montripde03moisenasiedusudest.blogspot.com/
Il est en effet trop tôt pour réserver d'autant que l'on ne sait ce qui se passera dans 18 mois environ.
Par contre je viens de réaliser que, s'il y a un décalage de 5h en plus, cela signifie que lorsque la compagnie annonce un voyage de 12h (par exemple départ 6h arrivée 18 h) on ne resterait que réellement 7 heures en vols? ou l'inverse ?
Pour un voyage en novembre, ce sera 6h de décalage (passage à l'heure d'hiver le dernier week-end d'octobre). Sur les sites de voyage, ces heures sont intégrées dans "heure de départ" et "heure d'arrivée" (d'où souvent la mention "+1 jour), et les heures de vol sont séparées.
On ne remonte pas le temps en voyageant, l'atmosphère et l'avion tournent en même temps que la Terre, les fuseaux horaires sont une convention. Il faudra attendre de pouvoir voyager plus vite que le Lumière, ce qui vous laisse du temps pour préparer votre voyage.😉
Pour un voyage en novembre, ce sera 6h de décalage (passage à l'heure d'hiver le dernier week-end d'octobre). Sur les sites de voyage, ces heures sont intégrées dans "heure de départ" et "heure d'arrivée" (d'où souvent la mention "+1 jour), et les heures de vol sont séparées.
On ne remonte pas le temps en voyageant, l'atmosphère et l'avion tournent en même temps que la Terre, les fuseaux horaires sont une convention. Il faudra attendre de pouvoir voyager plus vite que le Lumière, ce qui vous laisse du temps pour préparer votre voyage.😉
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Comme te le dit Barbot, la durée de vol est la même, fais le calcul! Tu pars mettons à 19h20 heure de Paris, tu arrives à 12h35 heure de BKK, cela ta fait 6h35 heure de Paris, donc bien 11h15 de vol, car le décalage est de 6h en hiver et 5h en été puisque nous, nous changeons d'heure été, hiver mais pas eux.
ghinaine
ca veux dire quoi poste philosophique
Beaucoup de palabres pour une réponse imprécise a la demande initiale ! 😉 🙂
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
merci pour la video, mais il a rien compris non plus a la vie, la verite n est pas la, la vie n est qu une illusion que nous avons choisi et il n y a rien de philosophique la dedans c est qu il n y a pas de passe ni de futur la vie c est dans le maintenant
ca veux dire quoi palabre
Le mot palabre vient de l’espagnol palabra qui signifie parole ou plus généralement mot. 😕
"L'endroit où l'on vit est toujours les vacances des autres"
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
"Ceux qui luttent ne sont pas sûr de gagner... ceux qui ne luttent pas ont déjà perdu d'avance..."
I'm still hoping to go grab a beer with any of you somewhere around my neighborhood - i.e. Bangkok - Thailande
En réponse a ta question, cela dépend un peu du temps éventuel de transit entre deux avions. La dernière fois que je suis allé a bangkok, j'ai fais toulouse-amsterdam en environ 1H30, transit a amsterdam 1 heure, puis amsterdam-bangkok à 1000 km/heure, soit environ 11 h de vol. Ne pas oublier d'avancer la montre de 6 heures en arrivant à bangkok.
Ca, c'est l'idéal. Bien demander tous les détails au moment de la réservation. Eventuellement payer un peu plus pour avoir des temps de voyage plus "raisonnables". Une fois, j'ai pris china-airline, 6 heures d'attente a pékin, ca c'était pas vraiment raisonnable. Juste un tout petit peu moins cher, je le ferais pas deux fois. En résumé, prends un max de renseignements avant de réserver, après pèse le pour et le contre. Bon voyage.😉
En réponse a ta question, cela dépend un peu du temps éventuel de transit entre deux avions. La dernière fois que je suis allé a bangkok, j'ai fais toulouse-amsterdam en environ 1H30, transit a amsterdam 1 heure, puis amsterdam-bangkok à 1000 km/heure, soit environ 11 h de vol. Ne pas oublier d'avancer la montre de 6 heures en arrivant à bangkok.
Ca, c'est l'idéal. Bien demander tous les détails au moment de la réservation. Eventuellement payer un peu plus pour avoir des temps de voyage plus "raisonnables". Une fois, j'ai pris china-airline, 6 heures d'attente a pékin, ca c'était pas vraiment raisonnable. Juste un tout petit peu moins cher, je le ferais pas deux fois. En résumé, prends un max de renseignements avant de réserver, après pèse le pour et le contre. Bon voyage.😉
Merci de cette réponse bien ciblée. Bonne journée
Merci de cette réponse bien ciblée. Bonne journée
Tu n'as pas a te casser la tete : quand tu vois un voyage Roissy - BGK de + de 20h c'est que
tu as une escale et que l'on te fait reprendre l'avion suivant le lendemain
ça arrive avec Etihad Airways , tu as 2 avions dans la journée, 1 le matin et un le soir, et si tu
ne fais pas attention en prenant ton billet sur internet, ça a l'air difficile a comprendre, mais
tu verras durée du vol 22h. (regardes les heures et les n° des vols)
Alors qu'Etihad fait une escale de 2h à Abu Dhabi, donc durée du vol 14h
Thai Airways durée du vol 11h (quand il ne part pas en retard de 2h comme en Mai dernier)
et au retour de Paris le 25 juin avec 1h de retard)
Quand on te dis que l'arrivéé à Bgk est à 6h , en fait il est 1h du matin en France, donc départ
de Paris vers 13h, ça fait bien 12h de vol ( en novembre il y aura 6h de décalage)
Maintenant pour les prix des billets discounts tu regardes souvent : Go Voyages Ebookers
c'est tj avec eux que j'ai pris mes billets et en ce moment je peux te dire (j'ai un copain qui
arrive le 31 Aout c'est 580 euros sur Etihad et un peu plus sur Thai Airways mais c'est direct
Si tu prends Thai Airways fais bien attention car le retour est à 0h05, beaucoup se sont pointés le lendemain, en faite l'enregistrement se fait 3h avant , la veille du départ
Comme tu pars en 2011 tu as le temps de t'entrainer sur les moteurs de recherches
christmi
oui faire gaffe avec la thai , le vol de retour est a 00h05 , sait a dire la premiere heure du jour correspondant et non le soir..
ex: si ta le vol de retour a 00h05 le jeudi , il faut que t arrive le mercredi = la veille , a l aeroport vers 21h.. car en ++ y a pas mal de monde a l enregistrement..
la bonne taille c' est quand les deux pieds touchent par terre!!
Pour ces messieurs, la moralité devient rigide quand le reste ne l'est plus." coluche !!!
http://02moisenasiebyfuncky062.blogspot.com/
http://montripde03moisenasiedusudest.blogspot.com/
Bonjour,
C'est vrai que j'ai le temps de faire de nombreuses simulations.
Bonne journée.
BJR
Vous êtes vraiment sûr de vouloir partir en Thailande , ...en croyents que puisque il y décalage (5h) vous passerait que 7h dans l'avion !!??😮😐...alors que la durée du vol direct est de 11h30 !
Vous savez : la Thailande c'est un pays supper sympa à decouvrir , ...mais le déplacement la bas exige un minimum d'inteligence pour pouvoir y séjourner (au survivre si problèmes ) sur place !..
Enfin il faut de tout pour faire le monde !
C'est rarre d'enttedre une choses pareille, .... mais voila, ... elle est arrivée !!.
Excuses moi mais , ....mais vous me "provoquerai une dechirure abdominale" si vous continuer comme ça !..ha..ha..ha😏
Miki
Bonjour,
C'est vraiement odieux ce que tu dis, il y a des personnes sur ce forum qui n'ont pas l' habitude de voyager et ne sont pas familiarisées avec les problèmes de décalage horaire. Cela arrive à tout le monde effectuant son premier grand voyage et ce n' est pas une tare. Si tout le monde donnait des réponses comme la tienne , il n'y aurait bientot plus personne sur le forum et on aurait vite une sale réputation.
Avant de jouer les donneurs de leçon, apprends déjà à écrire le français correctement, çà va t'occuper un bon moment car visiblement " y a du boulot " pendant ce temps tu nous ficheras la paix.
Pour exemple à l'époque où je travaillais en agence de voyage j'ai eu une cliente qui n' arrivait pas à comprendre pourquoi son vol pour les Antilles durait 7H à l' aller et 14H au retour ( selon elle ) . Quand j'ai évoqué le décalage horaire, elle m' a pris de haut, me disant de ne pas la prendre pour une idiote, qu'elle savait parfaitement ce qu' était le décalage horaire, mais que çà ne lui expliquait pas pourquoi le vol durait 2 fois plus longtemps au retour. Elle est partie persuadée que je m' étais trompée dans les horaires et qu'on lui annoncerait des modifications sur place. Ce ne devait pourtant pas être la dernière des imbéciles puisque elle était médecin 😉. Inutile de préciser qu'elle n'a jamais remis les pieds dans notre agence.
Pour Buffalotte : ne te formalise surtout pas, il y a des c.... partout, même malheureusement sur ce forum!!! Que cela ne te décourage pas de découvrir la Thailande qui est un pays magnifique; Et puis au moins là bas les gens sont tolérants.
Bon voyage , si tu veux plus de renseignements, tu peux m' écrire en MP et je me ferais un plaisir de te renseigner ( dans la mesure de mes connaissances, car je ne suis pas comme miki27, je n'ai pas la science infuse😉 )
Christine
C'est vraiement odieux ce que tu dis, il y a des personnes sur ce forum qui n'ont pas l' habitude de voyager et ne sont pas familiarisées avec les problèmes de décalage horaire. Cela arrive à tout le monde effectuant son premier grand voyage et ce n' est pas une tare. Si tout le monde donnait des réponses comme la tienne , il n'y aurait bientot plus personne sur le forum et on aurait vite une sale réputation.
Avant de jouer les donneurs de leçon, apprends déjà à écrire le français correctement, çà va t'occuper un bon moment car visiblement " y a du boulot " pendant ce temps tu nous ficheras la paix.
Pour exemple à l'époque où je travaillais en agence de voyage j'ai eu une cliente qui n' arrivait pas à comprendre pourquoi son vol pour les Antilles durait 7H à l' aller et 14H au retour ( selon elle ) . Quand j'ai évoqué le décalage horaire, elle m' a pris de haut, me disant de ne pas la prendre pour une idiote, qu'elle savait parfaitement ce qu' était le décalage horaire, mais que çà ne lui expliquait pas pourquoi le vol durait 2 fois plus longtemps au retour. Elle est partie persuadée que je m' étais trompée dans les horaires et qu'on lui annoncerait des modifications sur place. Ce ne devait pourtant pas être la dernière des imbéciles puisque elle était médecin 😉. Inutile de préciser qu'elle n'a jamais remis les pieds dans notre agence.
Pour Buffalotte : ne te formalise surtout pas, il y a des c.... partout, même malheureusement sur ce forum!!! Que cela ne te décourage pas de découvrir la Thailande qui est un pays magnifique; Et puis au moins là bas les gens sont tolérants.
Bon voyage , si tu veux plus de renseignements, tu peux m' écrire en MP et je me ferais un plaisir de te renseigner ( dans la mesure de mes connaissances, car je ne suis pas comme miki27, je n'ai pas la science infuse😉 )
Christine
BJR
Vous êtes vraiment sûr de vouloir partir en Thailande , ...en croyents que puisque il y décalage (5h) vous passerait que 7h dans l'avion !!??😮😐...alors que la durée du vol direct est de 11h30 !
Vous savez : la Thailande c'est un pays supper sympa à decouvrir , ...mais le déplacement la bas exige un minimum d'inteligence pour pouvoir y séjourner (au survivre si problèmes ) sur place !..
Enfin il faut de tout pour faire le monde !
C'est rarre d'enttedre une choses pareille, .... mais voila, ... elle est arrivée !!.
Excuses moi mais , ....mais vous me "provoquerai une dechirure abdominale" si vous continuer comme ça !..ha..ha..ha😏
Miki
J'apprécie à sa juste valeur. Habituée des forums, je sais séparer le bon grain de l'ivraie.
J'apprécie à sa juste valeur. Habituée des forums, je sais séparer le bon grain de l'ivraie.
Ok bon excuses !!!
mais c'était tellement "con" et énorme que je n'ai pas pu m'empêcher de réagir !.;......désolé vous l'avez mal pris !..
Vous avez peut-être voulu dire : que vous avez" l'impression" que vous voyager moins lontemps pour cause de décalage H , ...puisque vous gagner 5h de décalage en cour de route !?..
dans ce cas ça tien la route , ....mais comment fait vous si c'est 5 ou 6h de plus en arrivent , ...alors que la durée du vol est de 11h30 par exemple !..vous auriez l'impression que vous êtes restés 11h30+6h = 17h30dans l'avion!?.
Pas grave de toutes les façons, ... cela arrive à tout le monde de sortir un truc sympa comme ça !., ..cela fait partie des charmes de ce forum.
Mes plates excuses pour l'agression !.😉
Miki
Bonjour,
je reprends un vieux topic.
Nous allons passer les fêtes de fin d'année en Thaïlande.
Nous avions réservé un billet qui nous donnait une escale de deux heures à Charles De Gaulle
( venant de Bordeaux via Air France).
La surprise est que, Air France a décalé notre escale de 24 en plus. " Géniale!".
Les horaires n'ayant pas été modifié, il ne m'est pas venu à l'esprit de regarder les jours.
Bref!! trop tard pour contester ( en plus , mon neveu travailles à CDG et vis à proximité, donc, moindre mal).
par contre, notre arrivée est prévue à 7 h à Bangkok!! C'est bien en heure locale ? pas en équivalence heure de Paris.
Parce que l'ami qui nous réceptionne là bas vient de me suggérer un doute .
cela me semble bizarre car, départ 14 h plus 6 heures de décalage = 20 h thaï + arrivée à 7h thaï = ça nous donne bien les 11 heures de voyage.
Alors, que si nous partons à 14 h soit 20 h Thaï pour arriver à 7h de Paris soit 1h Thaï, c'est mieux que la téléportation !!
Suis- je claire ???
moindre mal).
par contre, notre arrivée est prévue à 7 h à Bangkok!! C'est bien en heure locale ? pas en équivalence heure de Paris.
...si les horaires des vols n’étaient pas donné en heures locales, ça serait un sacré bordel......
...si les horaires des vols n’étaient pas donné en heures locales, ça serait un sacré bordel......
...si les horaires des vols n’étaient pas donné en heures locales, ça serait un sacré bordel......
😄😄😄 +1
@Buffalotte
Parce que l'ami qui nous réceptionne là bas vient de me suggérer un doute . cela me semble bizarre car, départ 14 h plus 6 heures de décalage = 20 h thaï + arrivée à 7h thaï = ça nous donne bien les 11 heures de voyage. Alors, que si nous partons à 14 h soit 20 h Thaï pour arriver à 7h de Paris soit 1h Thaï, c'est mieux que la téléportation !! Suis- je claire ???
Si ça vient de lui.... faut lui dire "Y-a quelqu'un sur Voyageforum qui a dit qu'il faut que t'arrêtes le Yaba!! ça te crâme les neurones!" 😏😏😏😎
😄😄😄 +1
@Buffalotte
Parce que l'ami qui nous réceptionne là bas vient de me suggérer un doute . cela me semble bizarre car, départ 14 h plus 6 heures de décalage = 20 h thaï + arrivée à 7h thaï = ça nous donne bien les 11 heures de voyage. Alors, que si nous partons à 14 h soit 20 h Thaï pour arriver à 7h de Paris soit 1h Thaï, c'est mieux que la téléportation !! Suis- je claire ???
Si ça vient de lui.... faut lui dire "Y-a quelqu'un sur Voyageforum qui a dit qu'il faut que t'arrêtes le Yaba!! ça te crâme les neurones!" 😏😏😏😎
Merci de me confirmer.
Je n'ai pas l'impression qu'il ai bien lu la copie du billet que je lui ai transmise.
Merci de me confirmer.
Je n'ai pas l'impression qu'il ai bien lu la copie du billet que je lui ai transmise.
Apparemment oui, vu que vous en avez discuté 😉 (et que vous, vous aviez prouvé par "Alors, que si nous partons à 14 h soit 20 h Thaï pour arriver à 7h de Paris soit 1h Thaï, c'est mieux que la téléportation !!" vous aviez toute la logique...)
Apparemment oui, vu que vous en avez discuté 😉 (et que vous, vous aviez prouvé par "Alors, que si nous partons à 14 h soit 20 h Thaï pour arriver à 7h de Paris soit 1h Thaï, c'est mieux que la téléportation !!" vous aviez toute la logique...)
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Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Bonjour, qui serait sur place en ce moment à Flores? d apres des sites internet, tout serait fermé, la situation serait difficile ; notre guide dirait que ça va ; qui croire? nous sommes censés partir le 2 septembre ; merci à celles et ceux qui sont à Flores en ce moment
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
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Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!