Hi there, I’ll start my trip in Tulear, and it’s going to be a demanding journey since I’ll be crossing some pretty isolated regions. After that, I’d like to relax and enjoy a quieter pace for 20 days in Antsirabe. But I’m worried that after Tulear, I might struggle to readjust—I’ll be used to the open-mindedness and cheerfulness of the Vezo people. Could you tell me if people in Antsirabe are more reserved and if it’s hard to make friends quickly? Thanks
Pour ceux qui connaissent Madagascar,une question!
by Lise52
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonjour, pour ceux que le micro-crédit intéresse, aller voir' babyloan.org'
Comme j'avais parlé de mon fils ici, je mets le post sur ce fil:
Avons reçu un appel de lui en fin de matinée;il appelait de...Paris!
A faillli se trouver pris dans les émeutes sanglantes d'hier... Du coup, a décidé de rentrer en Suisse, mon mari est parti le chercher à l'aéroport de Genève, là... Il a laissé entendre par téléphone qu'il a assisté à des scènes terribles...
Quoi qu'il en soit, il est sauf, donc je participerai pour le zébu, comme je me l'étais promis... Je vous tiens au courant!
A faillli se trouver pris dans les émeutes sanglantes d'hier... Du coup, a décidé de rentrer en Suisse, mon mari est parti le chercher à l'aéroport de Genève, là... Il a laissé entendre par téléphone qu'il a assisté à des scènes terribles...
Quoi qu'il en soit, il est sauf, donc je participerai pour le zébu, comme je me l'étais promis... Je vous tiens au courant!
Pour en revenir au sujet principal de ce post, voila la reponse que j ai reçu de la ZOB suite a mon courriel !
Bonjour Monsieur,
Merci pour votre soutien, je pense comprendre que vous souhaitez des explications.
A titre d’informations négatives sur nous, vous avez dû trouver deux avis qui sont repris sur quelques sites, nous connaissons ces avis et sommes attristés de voir qu’internet peut les transformer en vérité absolue. A propos « d’histoires d’argent qui finit dans les poches de certains collaborateurs » : Effectivement une paire d’employés dont notre ancien chef de bureau, M. Rado, a profité de la confiance de Stéphane Geay, le fondateur et Gérant qui était parti en Europe pendant un an et demi à cause de son travail de pilote, pour encaisser des remboursements de paysan dans sa poche plutôt que dans la caisse de la ZOB. M. Rado est emprisonné depuis 7 mois à la maison d’arrêt d’Antsirabe… Depuis l’équipe a été complètement remaniée. Donc la ZOB a été victime de son personnel, ce qui aurait pu mettre en péril son existence… ce qui ne veut pas dire que les souscripteurs ont été victimes de la ZOB pour enrichir ses cadres…C’est tout à fait le contraire, puisque les créateurs de la ZOB n’ont jamais reçu un centime mais plutôt renfloué les caisses à l’occasion. Aussi, chaque souscripteur reste titulaire de son PEZ et de son capital, qui lui seront remboursés s’ils le souhaitent même si la ZOB doit prendre sur ses fonds propres pour palier au vol d’un de ses employés. Ce fait n’est pas caché, nous l’avons annoncé dès que nous en avons eu connaissance dans nos Newsletters.
Ensuite, Zebunet est une initiative associative gérée par des bénévoles EN France, qui sous-traite le travail de terrains à des associations locales. La ZOB est une équipe de 12 salariés malgaches qui font tout le travail de terrain, de l’enquête auprès des paysans bénéficiaires au suivi des animaux, en passant par la gestion des dossiers, le suivi des remboursements, et croyez moi ce n’est pas chose facile dans un pays aux voies d’accès déplorables et aux moyens de communication avec les paysans limités… Zébunet en tant qu’association reçoit des subventions et des donations d’organismes publics ou privés… La ZOB ne reçoit aucune subvention autre que les souscriptions. Zebunet s’adresse à des paysans membres d’associations qui ne demandent aucun suivi puisque c’est l’association qui est responsable des remboursements. Déjà je ne peux pas croire que les associations partenaires aient une réussite de 100%, alors imaginez s’ils devaient travailler avec des paysans individuels isolés comme nous le faisons. Zebunet n’a AUCUNE charge à payer en tant qu’association à l’extérieur du territoire. La ZOB en tant qu’entreprise est assujettie à toutes les charges fiscales et sociales des entreprises, a un loyer, de l’électricité et toutes autres charges à payer pour le bureau ou pour aller sur le terrain et les motos ne roulent pas à l’eau de riz (bien que chinoises) La ZOB doit entretenir une ferme pédagogique d’élevage et de culture et y réaliser régulièrement des formations pour ses paysans bénéficiaires. Les frais de déplacement et le repas sont payés à 150-200 paysans pour les inciter à suivre les formations… La ZOB gère près de 1.300 contrats de micro-crédit individuels actifs actuellement. Zebunet gère une centaine de contrats actifs auprès de deux associations relais.
Un zébu adulte « clés en main » à l’achat coûte entre 180 et 240 € environ à Antsirabe. Zebunet fait payer 160 € plus 20 € d’adhésion = 180 €, soit le prix d’une bête de base. Encaissement en France. ZOB fait payer 300 €, comptez environ 20 à 40 € de frais bancaires pour recevoir la somme en Ariary à la banque ici, 5% de la somme est léguée aux associations françaises qui nous aident pour recevoir les paiements. Retirez toutes les charges pré-citées, les salaires du personnel, les projets de développement rural comme les formations, etc… vous conviendrez que nous touchons au final peut-être moins que Zebunet.
La ZOB rembourse aux souscripteurs le montant total du PEZ ouvert en ariary et 7% d’intérêts et ce à n’importe quel moment entre deux et cinq ans après l’ouverture du PEZ sans condition de remboursement de la part du paysan. Zebunet ne rembourse qu’à l’issue du remboursement du paysan (et il est rare qu’un paysan ne prenne pas de retard dans ses remboursements) et encourage dès le début les gens à faire un don plutôt qu’une vraie souscription (puisque le don donne droit à une réduction d’impôts). Zebunet rembourse sans doute beaucoup moins de PEZ que la ZOB.
Enfin, même si j’ai pu vous paraître agressif vis-à-vis de Zebunet, sachez que je ne considère absolument aucune malhonnêteté de leur part, au contraire leur activité est tout à fait louable. Je veux juste vous montrer la différence de fonctionnement de deux entités qui ont le même principe de fonctionnement mais un mode de fonctionnement complètement différent qui ne peut pas être comparé.
Vous pouvez sans problème acheter un zébu chez Zébunet comme à la ZOB, au final un zébu aura permis à une famille d’élever un peu son niveau de vie…
Je reste à votre disposition pour toute information supplémentaire concernant la ZOB,
Pierre-Alexandre Perrin Dr. Vétérinaire Directeur technique et communication. - Zebu Overseas Board
Bonjour Monsieur,
Merci pour votre soutien, je pense comprendre que vous souhaitez des explications.
A titre d’informations négatives sur nous, vous avez dû trouver deux avis qui sont repris sur quelques sites, nous connaissons ces avis et sommes attristés de voir qu’internet peut les transformer en vérité absolue. A propos « d’histoires d’argent qui finit dans les poches de certains collaborateurs » : Effectivement une paire d’employés dont notre ancien chef de bureau, M. Rado, a profité de la confiance de Stéphane Geay, le fondateur et Gérant qui était parti en Europe pendant un an et demi à cause de son travail de pilote, pour encaisser des remboursements de paysan dans sa poche plutôt que dans la caisse de la ZOB. M. Rado est emprisonné depuis 7 mois à la maison d’arrêt d’Antsirabe… Depuis l’équipe a été complètement remaniée. Donc la ZOB a été victime de son personnel, ce qui aurait pu mettre en péril son existence… ce qui ne veut pas dire que les souscripteurs ont été victimes de la ZOB pour enrichir ses cadres…C’est tout à fait le contraire, puisque les créateurs de la ZOB n’ont jamais reçu un centime mais plutôt renfloué les caisses à l’occasion. Aussi, chaque souscripteur reste titulaire de son PEZ et de son capital, qui lui seront remboursés s’ils le souhaitent même si la ZOB doit prendre sur ses fonds propres pour palier au vol d’un de ses employés. Ce fait n’est pas caché, nous l’avons annoncé dès que nous en avons eu connaissance dans nos Newsletters.
Ensuite, Zebunet est une initiative associative gérée par des bénévoles EN France, qui sous-traite le travail de terrains à des associations locales. La ZOB est une équipe de 12 salariés malgaches qui font tout le travail de terrain, de l’enquête auprès des paysans bénéficiaires au suivi des animaux, en passant par la gestion des dossiers, le suivi des remboursements, et croyez moi ce n’est pas chose facile dans un pays aux voies d’accès déplorables et aux moyens de communication avec les paysans limités… Zébunet en tant qu’association reçoit des subventions et des donations d’organismes publics ou privés… La ZOB ne reçoit aucune subvention autre que les souscriptions. Zebunet s’adresse à des paysans membres d’associations qui ne demandent aucun suivi puisque c’est l’association qui est responsable des remboursements. Déjà je ne peux pas croire que les associations partenaires aient une réussite de 100%, alors imaginez s’ils devaient travailler avec des paysans individuels isolés comme nous le faisons. Zebunet n’a AUCUNE charge à payer en tant qu’association à l’extérieur du territoire. La ZOB en tant qu’entreprise est assujettie à toutes les charges fiscales et sociales des entreprises, a un loyer, de l’électricité et toutes autres charges à payer pour le bureau ou pour aller sur le terrain et les motos ne roulent pas à l’eau de riz (bien que chinoises) La ZOB doit entretenir une ferme pédagogique d’élevage et de culture et y réaliser régulièrement des formations pour ses paysans bénéficiaires. Les frais de déplacement et le repas sont payés à 150-200 paysans pour les inciter à suivre les formations… La ZOB gère près de 1.300 contrats de micro-crédit individuels actifs actuellement. Zebunet gère une centaine de contrats actifs auprès de deux associations relais.
Un zébu adulte « clés en main » à l’achat coûte entre 180 et 240 € environ à Antsirabe. Zebunet fait payer 160 € plus 20 € d’adhésion = 180 €, soit le prix d’une bête de base. Encaissement en France. ZOB fait payer 300 €, comptez environ 20 à 40 € de frais bancaires pour recevoir la somme en Ariary à la banque ici, 5% de la somme est léguée aux associations françaises qui nous aident pour recevoir les paiements. Retirez toutes les charges pré-citées, les salaires du personnel, les projets de développement rural comme les formations, etc… vous conviendrez que nous touchons au final peut-être moins que Zebunet.
La ZOB rembourse aux souscripteurs le montant total du PEZ ouvert en ariary et 7% d’intérêts et ce à n’importe quel moment entre deux et cinq ans après l’ouverture du PEZ sans condition de remboursement de la part du paysan. Zebunet ne rembourse qu’à l’issue du remboursement du paysan (et il est rare qu’un paysan ne prenne pas de retard dans ses remboursements) et encourage dès le début les gens à faire un don plutôt qu’une vraie souscription (puisque le don donne droit à une réduction d’impôts). Zebunet rembourse sans doute beaucoup moins de PEZ que la ZOB.
Enfin, même si j’ai pu vous paraître agressif vis-à-vis de Zebunet, sachez que je ne considère absolument aucune malhonnêteté de leur part, au contraire leur activité est tout à fait louable. Je veux juste vous montrer la différence de fonctionnement de deux entités qui ont le même principe de fonctionnement mais un mode de fonctionnement complètement différent qui ne peut pas être comparé.
Vous pouvez sans problème acheter un zébu chez Zébunet comme à la ZOB, au final un zébu aura permis à une famille d’élever un peu son niveau de vie…
Je reste à votre disposition pour toute information supplémentaire concernant la ZOB,
Pierre-Alexandre Perrin Dr. Vétérinaire Directeur technique et communication. - Zebu Overseas Board
Pourvu que ça dure
j'ai croisé le fondateur au resto zebu de tana, j'y ai bien mangé au passage une adresse sympa ou l'on sens bien le côté déluré de stephane dans la déco
Longue vie au ZOB
bonsoir,
parler d'un investissement ....en participant à cette mascarade!si certain veulent mettre à la disposition des paysans pauvres un ombiasa...(omby de travaille , pas la peine de le payer 2 ou 3 fois sa valeur....les trucs comme "zob" c'est pour vous "baiser" joli piege qui marche sur la credulité des europeens, emplifié à une certaine epoque par les journaleux et la participation de quelques vedettes du petit ecran...
t'es allé sur place a antsirabe au lieu de sortir des propos pareils
bonjour,
je vis dans le monde paysan...Zob est une entreprise, le conceptest une vaste magouille. l'europeen bien gentil achète une fois un zebu, pour pouvoir dire "je suis proprio d'un zebu" qu'une famille gasy repaye sous forme de traite....donc le zebu est payé 2 fois...à zob...c'est pas beau tout ça!
j'en avais entendu parler et hier sur échappée belles il en a été question .
Le fondateur de ZOB est vétérinaire, achète des zébus , les place chez les paysans , vérifie s'ils sont " bien tenus" et le paysan paie chaque mois 8 euros .
Quand la somme totale ( 300 euros) est réunie, l'acheteur reprend sa mise
Si ça peut aider pourquoi pas ??
Si ça peut aider pourquoi pas ??
Bonjour,
La demande de ce type de prêt en nature de la part des paysans est forte. JJ à raison car les sousscripeurs achetent un zébu ou bien un cochon à la Zob à un prix bien plus elévé que les prix habituels mais il s'agit peut être d'animaux sélectionnés. Les paysans s'engagent à rembourser dans un délai de deux ans et ils le font généralement, c'est devenu une source de revenu pour eux. Le "propriétaire" des animaux peut au bout des deux ans venir à Antsirabe pour récupérer sa mise initiale + des intéréts. Je précise que il faut se déplacer deux ans après l'achat à Antsirabe et se faire rembourser en Ariary! Peu de gens le font et dans ce cas JJ à raison de dire que les animaux sont payés deux fois à la ZOB. Cordialement
La demande de ce type de prêt en nature de la part des paysans est forte. JJ à raison car les sousscripeurs achetent un zébu ou bien un cochon à la Zob à un prix bien plus elévé que les prix habituels mais il s'agit peut être d'animaux sélectionnés. Les paysans s'engagent à rembourser dans un délai de deux ans et ils le font généralement, c'est devenu une source de revenu pour eux. Le "propriétaire" des animaux peut au bout des deux ans venir à Antsirabe pour récupérer sa mise initiale + des intéréts. Je précise que il faut se déplacer deux ans après l'achat à Antsirabe et se faire rembourser en Ariary! Peu de gens le font et dans ce cas JJ à raison de dire que les animaux sont payés deux fois à la ZOB. Cordialement
sauf que c est un pez et que la somme la personne se fout de la récupérer et la " réinvestit dans un autre zébu "
ce qui fait que les x euros donné au départ sont relancer mais c est x euros
L'idée en soit est bonne et en plus pleine d'humour on appel ça du marketing nécéssaire pour faire passer l'idée
sauf que c est un pez et que la somme la personne se fout de la récupérer et la " réinvestit dans un autre zébu "
ce qui fait que les x euros donné au départ sont relancer mais c est x euros
L'idée en soit est bonne et en plus pleine d'humour on appel ça du marketing nécéssaire pour faire passer l'idée
Bonsoir, * C'est certes une bonne idée et elle a le mérite de donner accés à des prêts en nature très utiles. Sans la demande des paysans les rouages de l'entreprise seront de toute façon grippés, mais ça ne prouve rien en ce qui concerne la transparence et le réinvestissement de la majorité des prêts remboursés. A ce jour un certain nombre de mes anciens clients ont des PEZ et des Pec plus ou moins périmés en cours. A ma connaissance aucun n'est revenu réclamer sa mise initiale et je ne sais pas ce que devient l'argent de la personne "qui s'en fout de le récupérer". Bonne journée
Bonsoir, * C'est certes une bonne idée et elle a le mérite de donner accés à des prêts en nature très utiles. Sans la demande des paysans les rouages de l'entreprise seront de toute façon grippés, mais ça ne prouve rien en ce qui concerne la transparence et le réinvestissement de la majorité des prêts remboursés. A ce jour un certain nombre de mes anciens clients ont des PEZ et des Pec plus ou moins périmés en cours. A ma connaissance aucun n'est revenu réclamer sa mise initiale et je ne sais pas ce que devient l'argent de la personne "qui s'en fout de le récupérer". Bonne journée
je pense qu'il est réinvesti vu les sommes se serait une magouille bas de gamme
le co-fondateur s'est expliqué sur le cout supérieur, comme moi vs savez qu'un zebu coute 150 euros, eux en demande 300, la difference selon eux se justifie pour payer des membres de l'association
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Domestic flights with Madagascar Airlines were just as smooth.
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Every year, we love escaping the autumn season—I really can’t stand it—by heading somewhere sunny during the All Saints' holiday.
This year, we were thinking of Mauritius... We’d found a place to stay, but after digging deeper, I realized it’s 40% cheaper in July. And the flights with Emirates aren’t more expensive in the summer, even though it’s peak season for them, compared to October.
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If you’ve got any firsthand experience traveling to Mauritius in July or early August, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Every year, we love escaping the autumn season—I really can’t stand it—by heading somewhere sunny during the All Saints' holiday.
This year, we were thinking of Mauritius... We’d found a place to stay, but after digging deeper, I realized it’s 40% cheaper in July. And the flights with Emirates aren’t more expensive in the summer, even though it’s peak season for them, compared to October.
Yet, after checking a bunch of sites, I don’t get the impression the weather is bad there in July—maybe just a *tiny* bit less hot than in October, but nothing major... So we’re tempted to go this summer after all.
This big price jump for All Saints' compared to summer is a mystery to me... Did I miss something?
If you’ve got any firsthand experience traveling to Mauritius in July or early August, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Hi
Are there any boat connections between Mananara and Sambava in September 2026?
Thanks for your replies
Are there any boat connections between Mananara and Sambava in September 2026?
Thanks for your replies
Hi! Recently, the domestic-flight terminal at Ivato has been moved to the old "international" airport, complete with its own scanner. On October 13th, I checked my luggage (which I had inspected before leaving my hotel in Tana) for a flight to Sambava. It wasn’t until I arrived at my accommodation in Antalaha and opened it that I discovered it had been searched (normal before boarding a plane), but to my surprise, the case containing my GPS fishfinder had been opened—likely mistaken for a laptop due to the scanner’s open access to all kinds of theft—and three SD cards were stolen. Luckily, two of the SD cards had their micro SDs inserted into the device, so I still had the Navionics micro card (300 €) essential for fishing. Of course, I’m not asking for compensation, just urging caution with checked luggage on "domestic" flights. (This is a copy-paste of my post on *Le Routard*.)
Hello,
I’m continuing the Antalaha–Maroantsetra discussion but for some info in the other direction, specifically about hiking from Maroantsetra to Antalaha.
In mid-December, I plan to take it easy from Tamatave to Antalaha. I’m thinking of making a few stops, like Nosy Atafana—has anyone snorkeled there? Is it nice? Can you find bush taxis on the Soniera–Ivongo / Maroantsetra stretch?
After that, I’m considering walking from Maroantsetra to Antalaha and figuring things out as I go, since the path seems well-used, so I’m not planning on a guide. Good idea or totally foolish? Should I bring a tent and some camping gear, or, as I’ve read multiple times, are there several villages with lodging and food options along the way? Any spots worth stopping at or nothing special to see?
In Antalaha, I saw the recommendation for Villa Malaza in the previous discussion, so I’m keeping that in mind. If there’s space, I’ll plan to stay there. In Antalaha itself, are there any places to visit, things to see, or activities you’d recommend?
Thanks in advance to everyone for any tips—they’ll be really helpful!
In mid-December, I plan to take it easy from Tamatave to Antalaha. I’m thinking of making a few stops, like Nosy Atafana—has anyone snorkeled there? Is it nice? Can you find bush taxis on the Soniera–Ivongo / Maroantsetra stretch?
After that, I’m considering walking from Maroantsetra to Antalaha and figuring things out as I go, since the path seems well-used, so I’m not planning on a guide. Good idea or totally foolish? Should I bring a tent and some camping gear, or, as I’ve read multiple times, are there several villages with lodging and food options along the way? Any spots worth stopping at or nothing special to see?
In Antalaha, I saw the recommendation for Villa Malaza in the previous discussion, so I’m keeping that in mind. If there’s space, I’ll plan to stay there. In Antalaha itself, are there any places to visit, things to see, or activities you’d recommend?
Thanks in advance to everyone for any tips—they’ll be really helpful!
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a private transfer from Tana to Mananjary from May 16 to 20, 2026.
Do you have a contact, please?
Best regards,
Jary
I'm looking for a private transfer from Tana to Mananjary from May 16 to 20, 2026.
Do you have a contact, please?
Best regards,
Jary
Well, I still feel a bit lonely about this destination—no requests for info, no travel journals, or trip reports since I last posted over a year ago. A little disheartening.
That said, I did cross paths with slightly more tourists this time. Not a ton, but enough to notice compared to my last stay. Beyond that, not much has changed—the people are just as lovely, and every interaction, whether at the market, in the medinas, in town, or in the countryside, was positive. It was so pleasant; my "alert meter" stayed at zero the whole time (which is pretty different from some other places I visit now and then). The roads outside the cities remain dangerous, and the accident rate seems high. Best to drive during the day and take it easy (on some rough stretches, you don’t really have a choice anyway). The scattered plastic and metal waste hasn’t magically disappeared, and it’s still pretty discouraging to see the most beautiful beaches surrounded by empty bottles, straws, diapers, and rusted carcasses of an old Xantia or a skeletal Espace. When it’s not on the beach itself (since those are cleaned), it’s just a few meters away. Usually, there’s not much in the water or close to shore—the seabeds are gorgeous, with coral and a wide variety of scaly friends... But stepping back onto the hardened lava, you dodge a chip bag or a shriveled battery. Such a paradox. Honestly, it’s like this almost everywhere except on hotel beaches or those far from human settlements. But otherwise, in places like Chomoni, Bouni, Itsandra, Moya, and Domoni (on Anjouan), Nioumachoua (on Mohéli, and even on the nearby islets), it’s hard to ignore. And it unfortunately tarnishes the beauty of these otherwise stunning spots.
That said, you can still find secluded micro-bays, protected and remote, where this isn’t an issue. And where there are hotels—like in Petite Itsandra in Moroni, in front of Laka Lodge in Nioumachoua, Trou du Prophète, or even Chomoni (though the surrounding areas are so littered...)—the beaches are cleaned, so...
So why go? Why still love it despite all this? Well, first, the Comorians themselves—that’s already essential and probably the main reason. Then there’s the breathtaking topography: the imposing Karthala, the dizzying peaks and cliffs of Anjouan, vast ravines, a tortured geology covered in lush nature, and Mohéli, much more serene and gentle, blanketed in spice plants and trees with names that make you dream, like an open-air spice market. The flora across the islands—the fields, trees, scents: clove trees, cinnamon trees, lychee, mango, cardamom, nutmeg, vanilla, coconut palms, banana trees, coffee plants, cocoa... A profusion of green dotted with red, white, and yellow berries and flowers... The seabeds are stunning in many places, and there are some beautiful beaches/oceanfront spots, especially near Trou du Prophète (but not only there). The history and culture—between traditional festivals, but especially the medinas with their staircases, covered passages, palaces, and mosques that create Escher-like constructions. I love wandering through them for hours, stumbling upon an unlikely shop, a more or less philosophical saying like "pain is a warning," "a promise is a debt," or the less original "little by little, the bird makes its nest." A grocery store, women negotiating freshly caught fish (usually tuna, immediately cut and ready to sell), kids playing, old men playing checkers, a call to prayer... In Moroni, Mutsamudu, and Domoni, I spent most of my "urban" time.
If anyone’s interested—though given the hype about Comoros on the forum, I doubt it—but if you need info on accommodation across the three islands, some restaurants, or sites to visit, don’t hesitate to ask.
This message is another message in a bottle (one more, if I dare...) for the Comoros destination.
That said, I did cross paths with slightly more tourists this time. Not a ton, but enough to notice compared to my last stay. Beyond that, not much has changed—the people are just as lovely, and every interaction, whether at the market, in the medinas, in town, or in the countryside, was positive. It was so pleasant; my "alert meter" stayed at zero the whole time (which is pretty different from some other places I visit now and then). The roads outside the cities remain dangerous, and the accident rate seems high. Best to drive during the day and take it easy (on some rough stretches, you don’t really have a choice anyway). The scattered plastic and metal waste hasn’t magically disappeared, and it’s still pretty discouraging to see the most beautiful beaches surrounded by empty bottles, straws, diapers, and rusted carcasses of an old Xantia or a skeletal Espace. When it’s not on the beach itself (since those are cleaned), it’s just a few meters away. Usually, there’s not much in the water or close to shore—the seabeds are gorgeous, with coral and a wide variety of scaly friends... But stepping back onto the hardened lava, you dodge a chip bag or a shriveled battery. Such a paradox. Honestly, it’s like this almost everywhere except on hotel beaches or those far from human settlements. But otherwise, in places like Chomoni, Bouni, Itsandra, Moya, and Domoni (on Anjouan), Nioumachoua (on Mohéli, and even on the nearby islets), it’s hard to ignore. And it unfortunately tarnishes the beauty of these otherwise stunning spots.
That said, you can still find secluded micro-bays, protected and remote, where this isn’t an issue. And where there are hotels—like in Petite Itsandra in Moroni, in front of Laka Lodge in Nioumachoua, Trou du Prophète, or even Chomoni (though the surrounding areas are so littered...)—the beaches are cleaned, so...
So why go? Why still love it despite all this? Well, first, the Comorians themselves—that’s already essential and probably the main reason. Then there’s the breathtaking topography: the imposing Karthala, the dizzying peaks and cliffs of Anjouan, vast ravines, a tortured geology covered in lush nature, and Mohéli, much more serene and gentle, blanketed in spice plants and trees with names that make you dream, like an open-air spice market. The flora across the islands—the fields, trees, scents: clove trees, cinnamon trees, lychee, mango, cardamom, nutmeg, vanilla, coconut palms, banana trees, coffee plants, cocoa... A profusion of green dotted with red, white, and yellow berries and flowers... The seabeds are stunning in many places, and there are some beautiful beaches/oceanfront spots, especially near Trou du Prophète (but not only there). The history and culture—between traditional festivals, but especially the medinas with their staircases, covered passages, palaces, and mosques that create Escher-like constructions. I love wandering through them for hours, stumbling upon an unlikely shop, a more or less philosophical saying like "pain is a warning," "a promise is a debt," or the less original "little by little, the bird makes its nest." A grocery store, women negotiating freshly caught fish (usually tuna, immediately cut and ready to sell), kids playing, old men playing checkers, a call to prayer... In Moroni, Mutsamudu, and Domoni, I spent most of my "urban" time.
If anyone’s interested—though given the hype about Comoros on the forum, I doubt it—but if you need info on accommodation across the three islands, some restaurants, or sites to visit, don’t hesitate to ask.
This message is another message in a bottle (one more, if I dare...) for the Comoros destination.
hi there
I’ll be in Antalaha in October and need to get to Maroantsetra. I’ve heard it’s possible by boat, but I can’t find any info about it. So I’m wondering if I’ll have to arrange something with local fishing boats or something else, and whether it’s a risky trip since the sea can get rough on Madagascar’s east coast. Has anyone done this before, or just know anything about it? What do you think?
I’ll be in Antalaha in October and need to get to Maroantsetra. I’ve heard it’s possible by boat, but I can’t find any info about it. So I’m wondering if I’ll have to arrange something with local fishing boats or something else, and whether it’s a risky trip since the sea can get rough on Madagascar’s east coast. Has anyone done this before, or just know anything about it? What do you think?
Hello, we’re heading to Mauritius for two weeks at the end of October. We’ll be staying in Trou aux Biches. We’d like to explore the island by bus if possible, so if you have any tips, we’d love to hear them. We’re on half-board, so we’ll also be checking out some nice, typical little restaurants and snack spots. Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi, is it possible to find out? How can I stay for 3 consecutive months in Madagascar, based on a fixed-date flight ticket? In short, how do I get a visa stamped at the airport??
Does anyone know if there’s maritime transport from the southern tip of Africa to a port in MADAGASCAR?
CHEAPER THAN A FLIGHT, see you soon, fellow traveler!!
Does anyone know if there’s maritime transport from the southern tip of Africa to a port in MADAGASCAR?
CHEAPER THAN A FLIGHT, see you soon, fellow traveler!!
Hi there,
We’ve booked accommodation at Digwa Beach Chalet on La Digue. We’ll be arriving and leaving by ferry.
We’re only a 20-minute walk from our rental.
I was wondering if anyone has stayed at this place before and knows if they pick you up from the ferry? Is it free? How much does it cost?
My husband has reduced mobility and with the luggage, it’s not going to be easy. I’ve sent a message to the accommodation but haven’t heard back yet... Thanks so much for your help!
hi, does anyone have any recent info on the condition of this RN6 route? roadworks? maintenance?
and of course, about the two river crossings at Gué between Ambanja and Ambilobe on the Ifatsy and Mahavavy rivers (at the entrance to Ambilobe)
condition of the ferries, possible start of work on the bridges (with the addition of Bailey bridges)
any info after the rainy season, meaning after April 2025
thanks
Can you tell me how long (on average...) the Tana to Tamatave trip takes with local minibus transport?
Which reliable company do you recommend for booking?
Hi there,
We’re thinking of doing the train journey from Fianarantsoa to Manakara again. Is the train still running? After that, we’re planning to go from Manakara to Fort Dauphin by 4x4. Thanks for any tips you can share!
Hello,
After over 40 years of traveling, I’ve never used a driver-guide before.
Given my age, this time I’d like to avoid being squeezed into a bush taxi. I’ve never rented a 4x4 but usually go for sedans.
So, for my upcoming trip to Madagascar, I decided to hire a 4x4 with a driver. I contacted about ten agencies and guides listed in the GR, LP, and travel forums. The quotes I got for 20 days range from 6000 € to 1300 €, with or without fuel included. Most ask for either a full bank transfer upfront or a mobile wallet payment (30%, etc.) from France.
Personally, I’d prefer to see the vehicle and the driver before making any payment.
Also, I’d rather pay at the end of my trip.
Is it possible to find a provider in Tana upon arrival for around 50 or 60 € per day, including fuel, with short notice, some flexibility in my itinerary, and without being forced to accept the dictates of agencies or drivers recommended on certain forums?
Thanks for your replies.
Hello!
My wife and I (Quebecers, 63 years old, retired, celebrating our 45 years together this year, including 20 years of marriage) have chosen to mark the occasion with a trip to Dubai, Réunion, and Mauritius (4 days in Dubai, then 24 days on the islands).
We have a lot of experience planning road trips (scouting routes, visits, hotels, and restaurants of interest), but we travel without reservations to keep the freedom to follow our instincts and tips we get on the spot. We’re moderately active physically and prefer the countryside and beaches over big cities. Our only fixed dates: arrival in Réunion on October 5th and departure from Mauritius on October 29th.
After lots of reading and with the help of an AI (super useful for drafting a first outline!), here’s a possible itinerary framework. Nothing is set in stone—I’d love your suggestions, comments, and thoughts on what’s worth adding or avoiding. Are the proposed bases optimal? Also, if you have recommendations for hotels (mid-range budget of 100–200 euros per night), restaurants, etc., I’m all ears! ;-)
Thanks! 😊
🌴 Réunion (October 5–13, 9 days) Base 1 – Saint-Gilles / L’Hermitage (October 5–8, 3 nights) Oct 5 (Sun): Settle in, relax at L’Hermitage beach. Oct 6 (Mon): Saint-Paul market (morning), beach + sunset at Boucan Canot. Oct 7 (Tue): Excursion to Maïdo (view of Mafate), return via Saint-Leu (Stella Matutina). Oct 8 (Wed): Beach + dolphin/whale-watching boat trip.
Base 2 – Cilaos (October 8–10, 2 nights) Oct 9 (Thu): Route des 400 virages, stroll through the village and Roche Merveilleuse. Oct 10 (Fri): Hike to Bras Rouge (3–4h) or the Chapelle canyon. Creole inn evening.
Base 3 – Plaine des Cafres / Bourg-Murat (October 10–13, 3 nights) Oct 11 (Sat): Road to the volcano → Plaine des Sables → Piton de la Fournaise. Oct 12 (Sun): Wild south coast at Cap Méchant, lava flows, Jardin Parfums, Grande Anse beach. Oct 13 (Mon): Relaxed morning, flight from Réunion to Mauritius.
🏝️ Mauritius (October 13–29, 16 days) Base 1 – Grand Baie / Pereybère (October 13–18, 5 nights) Oct 13 (Mon): Settle in, swim at Mont Choisy. Oct 14 (Tue): Boat excursion to Île Plate & Coin de Mire. Oct 15 (Wed): Pamplemousses Garden + L’Aventure du Sucre. Evening in Grand Baie. Oct 16 (Thu): Trou aux Biches beach, snorkeling. Oct 17 (Fri): Free day, relaxation/shopping.
Base 2 – Flic-en-Flac / Tamarin (October 18–23, 5 nights) Oct 18 (Sat): Drive to the west, settle in, beach. Oct 19 (Sun): Dolphin excursion in Tamarin, relax in the afternoon. Oct 20 (Mon): Chamarel: Terres 7 Couleurs + rum distillery. Oct 21 (Tue): Black River Gorges (hike + waterfalls). Oct 22 (Wed): Snorkeling + sunset.
Base 3 – Belle Mare / Trou d’Eau Douce (October 23–26, 3 nights) Oct 23 (Thu): Settle in, Belle Mare beach. Oct 24 (Fri): Catamaran excursion to Île aux Cerfs. Oct 25 (Sat): Flacq market (morning), beach in the afternoon.
Base 4 – Mahébourg / Blue Bay (October 26–29, 3 nights) Oct 26 (Sun): Settle in, snorkeling at Blue Bay Marine Park. Oct 27 (Mon): Pointe d’Esny + Île aux Aigrettes. Oct 28 (Tue): Free beach day + Mahébourg village. Oct 29 (Wed): Morning swim, return flight at 4 PM (airport is 15 min away).
My wife and I (Quebecers, 63 years old, retired, celebrating our 45 years together this year, including 20 years of marriage) have chosen to mark the occasion with a trip to Dubai, Réunion, and Mauritius (4 days in Dubai, then 24 days on the islands).
We have a lot of experience planning road trips (scouting routes, visits, hotels, and restaurants of interest), but we travel without reservations to keep the freedom to follow our instincts and tips we get on the spot. We’re moderately active physically and prefer the countryside and beaches over big cities. Our only fixed dates: arrival in Réunion on October 5th and departure from Mauritius on October 29th.
After lots of reading and with the help of an AI (super useful for drafting a first outline!), here’s a possible itinerary framework. Nothing is set in stone—I’d love your suggestions, comments, and thoughts on what’s worth adding or avoiding. Are the proposed bases optimal? Also, if you have recommendations for hotels (mid-range budget of 100–200 euros per night), restaurants, etc., I’m all ears! ;-)
Thanks! 😊
🌴 Réunion (October 5–13, 9 days) Base 1 – Saint-Gilles / L’Hermitage (October 5–8, 3 nights) Oct 5 (Sun): Settle in, relax at L’Hermitage beach. Oct 6 (Mon): Saint-Paul market (morning), beach + sunset at Boucan Canot. Oct 7 (Tue): Excursion to Maïdo (view of Mafate), return via Saint-Leu (Stella Matutina). Oct 8 (Wed): Beach + dolphin/whale-watching boat trip.
Base 2 – Cilaos (October 8–10, 2 nights) Oct 9 (Thu): Route des 400 virages, stroll through the village and Roche Merveilleuse. Oct 10 (Fri): Hike to Bras Rouge (3–4h) or the Chapelle canyon. Creole inn evening.
Base 3 – Plaine des Cafres / Bourg-Murat (October 10–13, 3 nights) Oct 11 (Sat): Road to the volcano → Plaine des Sables → Piton de la Fournaise. Oct 12 (Sun): Wild south coast at Cap Méchant, lava flows, Jardin Parfums, Grande Anse beach. Oct 13 (Mon): Relaxed morning, flight from Réunion to Mauritius.
🏝️ Mauritius (October 13–29, 16 days) Base 1 – Grand Baie / Pereybère (October 13–18, 5 nights) Oct 13 (Mon): Settle in, swim at Mont Choisy. Oct 14 (Tue): Boat excursion to Île Plate & Coin de Mire. Oct 15 (Wed): Pamplemousses Garden + L’Aventure du Sucre. Evening in Grand Baie. Oct 16 (Thu): Trou aux Biches beach, snorkeling. Oct 17 (Fri): Free day, relaxation/shopping.
Base 2 – Flic-en-Flac / Tamarin (October 18–23, 5 nights) Oct 18 (Sat): Drive to the west, settle in, beach. Oct 19 (Sun): Dolphin excursion in Tamarin, relax in the afternoon. Oct 20 (Mon): Chamarel: Terres 7 Couleurs + rum distillery. Oct 21 (Tue): Black River Gorges (hike + waterfalls). Oct 22 (Wed): Snorkeling + sunset.
Base 3 – Belle Mare / Trou d’Eau Douce (October 23–26, 3 nights) Oct 23 (Thu): Settle in, Belle Mare beach. Oct 24 (Fri): Catamaran excursion to Île aux Cerfs. Oct 25 (Sat): Flacq market (morning), beach in the afternoon.
Base 4 – Mahébourg / Blue Bay (October 26–29, 3 nights) Oct 26 (Sun): Settle in, snorkeling at Blue Bay Marine Park. Oct 27 (Mon): Pointe d’Esny + Île aux Aigrettes. Oct 28 (Tue): Free beach day + Mahébourg village. Oct 29 (Wed): Morning swim, return flight at 4 PM (airport is 15 min away).
Hey there,
I’m moving to Réunion Island in September and I’d love to hear about your experiences there. What’s there to do and what should I avoid?
Do you have any great tips for budget-friendly accommodation or places to stay?
Any advice on how to save money while I’m there?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
My friend and I are heading to Madagascar in March, and we were wondering if it’s possible to bring some cash and top up once we’re there (specifically in Tana).
Is it worth exchanging money if euros are accepted everywhere?
Thanks for your always super helpful tips on VF!