Faire un trek Copacabana - Yampupata - Isla del Sol en deux jours? (Bolivie)
by Sokomano
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Quelqu'un aurait déjà pris le chemin qui part de Copacabana pour aller au bout de la presqu'ile en direction de la Isla del Sol?
J'aurai voulu savoir si c'était possible de randonner sur 2 jours
J1: Copacabana - Isla del sol en bateau puis faire l'AR jusqu'au bout de l'île
J2: Revenir sur le "continent" en bateau puis à pied jusqu'à Copacabana
Merci
D'après le LP cela serait 4/5 heures par jour mais je doute étant donné les distances (surtout sur la presqu'île).
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Bonjour,
Je n'ai pas fait la partie Copacabana -Yamupata mais je peux toujours te donner mon retour. Les données annoncées par les guides sont à peu près correctes. Il faut environ 3h pour traverser l'ile du nord au sud mais sans compter la visite des sites. Ceci à un rythme tranquille mais qui permet de profiter des maginifiques paysages. Ton itinéraire me semble faisable en théorie car effectivement ça te ferait environ 8h par jour (ils prévoient 4-5h pr Copacabana-Yamupata il me semble + trajet bateau qui n'est pas très long).
Par contre et ce n'est que mon avis qui est discutable bien sur, cela me semble un peu la course pour un des rares endroits en Bolivie qui invite un peu au repos (en plus le lac confère un climat plus doux qu'ailleurs sur l'altiplano).
J'aurais adoré faire la marche que tu évoques mais pas pu manque de temps.
Si tu veux absolument faire l'AR il me semblerait plus sage de compter au minimum 3 jours (1 pr Copa-Yamu, 1 pr AR sud-nord, 1 pr Yamu-Copa). Mais sans ce cas tu passeras peut être à côté de ce côté hors du temps de l'isla del sol.
Sinon et si tu n'as que 2 jours : une bonne option. 1 jour pr faire Copa-Yamupata. Dodo et vistes sites Yumani. Départ tot second jour pour Challapampa et tu chopes le bateau de 13h qui rentre à Copacabana.
Voila. J'espère que ceci a pu t'éclairer.
Je n'ai pas fait la partie Copacabana -Yamupata mais je peux toujours te donner mon retour. Les données annoncées par les guides sont à peu près correctes. Il faut environ 3h pour traverser l'ile du nord au sud mais sans compter la visite des sites. Ceci à un rythme tranquille mais qui permet de profiter des maginifiques paysages. Ton itinéraire me semble faisable en théorie car effectivement ça te ferait environ 8h par jour (ils prévoient 4-5h pr Copacabana-Yamupata il me semble + trajet bateau qui n'est pas très long).
Par contre et ce n'est que mon avis qui est discutable bien sur, cela me semble un peu la course pour un des rares endroits en Bolivie qui invite un peu au repos (en plus le lac confère un climat plus doux qu'ailleurs sur l'altiplano).
J'aurais adoré faire la marche que tu évoques mais pas pu manque de temps.
Si tu veux absolument faire l'AR il me semblerait plus sage de compter au minimum 3 jours (1 pr Copa-Yamu, 1 pr AR sud-nord, 1 pr Yamu-Copa). Mais sans ce cas tu passeras peut être à côté de ce côté hors du temps de l'isla del sol.
Sinon et si tu n'as que 2 jours : une bonne option. 1 jour pr faire Copa-Yamupata. Dodo et vistes sites Yumani. Départ tot second jour pour Challapampa et tu chopes le bateau de 13h qui rentre à Copacabana.
Voila. J'espère que ceci a pu t'éclairer.
Merci de ta réponse.
Je pense que je vais finalement randonner uniquement sur l'île. Ca m'a l'air bien plus sage.
Quel programme me conseillerais-tu sur 2 jours entiers au départ de Copacabana?
Le Jour d'avant je comptais visiter Tiwanaku au départ de La Paz et arriver sur le lac le soir.
As-tu fait le Cerro Calvario?
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Mes randos et voyages : http://www.alidade.eu
Alors pr 2 jours entiers:
Programme 1 un peu plus chargé ms bon: 1 jour de rando pr faire Copacabana-Yamupata. Dodo à Yumani qui est au sud (si temps visites sites Yumani mais je doute que tu en aies envie après journée bien chargée). Départ tot second jour pour Challapampa (nord) et tu chopes le bateau de 13h qui rentre à Copacabana. A mon avis rando très sympa mais peut être un speed, aucune idée n'ayant pas fait la première partie.
Programme 2: J1 : bateau de 8h30 direction sud de l'ile (et non le nord comme la plupart le font). Visite sites du sud et rando jusque Challapampa (que c'est beau et calme par contre il faut demander aux villageois pr hébergement, j'en ai vu un sympa entre les ruines du nord et le village de challapampa). J2: glandouille dans le nord, challapampa dispose d'une magnifique petite plage aux couleurs hallucinantes et d'un petit musée. pourquoi pas un AR jusqu'au village de Challa au milieu de l'ile (aussi petit musée). Attention 1 seul bateau vers 13h au départ du nord. Ou alors retour vers le sud par autre chemin pour choper bateau de 15h30-16h à Yumani.
Programme 3: J1 : idem q précedemment ms se faire débarquer au nord. Rando vers le sud de l'ile (rando plus longue si crochet par le village de challa au milieu). J2: Visite des sites autour de Yumani, je les trouves moins sympa que celles du nord mais la ballade est sympa pr les atteindre. Prendre le bateau de 15h30 (ou 16h je ne sais plus) pr rentrer. Ne pas écouter les gens, il n'y a pas de bateau qui repart des ruines le matin, à part des tours privés. Aussi possible de faire un tour à Challa ms bien se renseigner sur le tps de marche pr ne pas louper le bateau. - > Tu peux aussi dormir le 1er soir à Challa au milieu de l'ile et rallier le sud le lendemain.
A Yumani le coucher de soleil est très sympa car on est en hauteur, bp plus de structures touristiques. Challapampa a énormément de charme car peu d'infrastructures, pr le coucher de soleil je ne sais pas, mais il y a aussi une colline d'où il doit être sympa.
Voila, en gros plein d'options. Ce qui est sur c'est que l'ile invite à la farniente (et je ne suis pas du tout bronzette) dans un pays où toutes les excursions demandent quand même une bonne condition physique.
Pas fait le cerro calvario ni Tiwanaku. Par contre si tu aimes la randonnée et les sensations fortes, j'ai rencontré pas mal de personnes qui ont fait le huyana potosi sans être alpinistes (mais tout de même en bonnes conditions physique et bien acclimatées) et c'est un de mes petits regrets. A faire plutot en 3 jours que 2 cependant. Une autre fois.
Programme 1 un peu plus chargé ms bon: 1 jour de rando pr faire Copacabana-Yamupata. Dodo à Yumani qui est au sud (si temps visites sites Yumani mais je doute que tu en aies envie après journée bien chargée). Départ tot second jour pour Challapampa (nord) et tu chopes le bateau de 13h qui rentre à Copacabana. A mon avis rando très sympa mais peut être un speed, aucune idée n'ayant pas fait la première partie.
Programme 2: J1 : bateau de 8h30 direction sud de l'ile (et non le nord comme la plupart le font). Visite sites du sud et rando jusque Challapampa (que c'est beau et calme par contre il faut demander aux villageois pr hébergement, j'en ai vu un sympa entre les ruines du nord et le village de challapampa). J2: glandouille dans le nord, challapampa dispose d'une magnifique petite plage aux couleurs hallucinantes et d'un petit musée. pourquoi pas un AR jusqu'au village de Challa au milieu de l'ile (aussi petit musée). Attention 1 seul bateau vers 13h au départ du nord. Ou alors retour vers le sud par autre chemin pour choper bateau de 15h30-16h à Yumani.
Programme 3: J1 : idem q précedemment ms se faire débarquer au nord. Rando vers le sud de l'ile (rando plus longue si crochet par le village de challa au milieu). J2: Visite des sites autour de Yumani, je les trouves moins sympa que celles du nord mais la ballade est sympa pr les atteindre. Prendre le bateau de 15h30 (ou 16h je ne sais plus) pr rentrer. Ne pas écouter les gens, il n'y a pas de bateau qui repart des ruines le matin, à part des tours privés. Aussi possible de faire un tour à Challa ms bien se renseigner sur le tps de marche pr ne pas louper le bateau. - > Tu peux aussi dormir le 1er soir à Challa au milieu de l'ile et rallier le sud le lendemain.
A Yumani le coucher de soleil est très sympa car on est en hauteur, bp plus de structures touristiques. Challapampa a énormément de charme car peu d'infrastructures, pr le coucher de soleil je ne sais pas, mais il y a aussi une colline d'où il doit être sympa.
Voila, en gros plein d'options. Ce qui est sur c'est que l'ile invite à la farniente (et je ne suis pas du tout bronzette) dans un pays où toutes les excursions demandent quand même une bonne condition physique.
Pas fait le cerro calvario ni Tiwanaku. Par contre si tu aimes la randonnée et les sensations fortes, j'ai rencontré pas mal de personnes qui ont fait le huyana potosi sans être alpinistes (mais tout de même en bonnes conditions physique et bien acclimatées) et c'est un de mes petits regrets. A faire plutot en 3 jours que 2 cependant. Une autre fois.
Merci pour le temps passé à proposer ces itinéraires.
Sais-tu si un retour a La Paz en fin de journée (2e jour) est envisageable?
Je ne sais pas quand partent les derniers bus.
D'ailleurs quel est le temps des traversées en bateau? Les 2 (celle du nord et celle du sud).
Merci
Mes randos et voyages : http://www.alidade.eu
Si c'est possible.
Je pense que la traversée depuis le sud prend 1h30 et 2h depuis le nord.
Le dernier bus part à 18h ou 18h30 et peut être après mais pas sure (compagnie 2 de Februaro ms peut être pas ts les jours). Compagnie non touristique qui arrive dans le district du cimetierre. Ca fait peut être arriver un peu tard dans ce coin (soit disant craignos, nous de jour on a rien vu ms de nuit sais pas). Cette compagnie a un départ quasi toutes les heures.
Tous les micros arrivent aussi au district du cimetierre (Micro jusque Tiquina + barque + micro jusque Paz, idem sens inverse). Pas d'horaires ms je pense que départs reguliers.
Sinon bus touristiques (plus chers et remplis exlusivement de touristes) arrivent direct calle sagarnaga (seul interet si on ne sais pas comment prendre un taxi ou flemme). Ceux la ne partent que à 8h30 et 13h30.
Je pense que la traversée depuis le sud prend 1h30 et 2h depuis le nord.
Le dernier bus part à 18h ou 18h30 et peut être après mais pas sure (compagnie 2 de Februaro ms peut être pas ts les jours). Compagnie non touristique qui arrive dans le district du cimetierre. Ca fait peut être arriver un peu tard dans ce coin (soit disant craignos, nous de jour on a rien vu ms de nuit sais pas). Cette compagnie a un départ quasi toutes les heures.
Tous les micros arrivent aussi au district du cimetierre (Micro jusque Tiquina + barque + micro jusque Paz, idem sens inverse). Pas d'horaires ms je pense que départs reguliers.
Sinon bus touristiques (plus chers et remplis exlusivement de touristes) arrivent direct calle sagarnaga (seul interet si on ne sais pas comment prendre un taxi ou flemme). Ceux la ne partent que à 8h30 et 13h30.
Merci pour tes conseils qui sont très appréciables.
Je pense donc faire la Isla del Sol sur 1jour et demi pour rentrer sur La Paz en soirée.
Mes randos et voyages : http://www.alidade.eu
Bonsoir,
Je remonte ce post car comme Sokomano, nous pensons : Jour 1 : Arriver de Puno par bus à Copacabana ; dormir à Copacabana. Jour 2 : Bateau Copacabana - sud de l'ile du Soleil ; traversée de l'ile vers le nord ; dormir quelque part vers le nord. Jour 3 : Bateau de quelque part vers le nord - Copacabana ; bus pour La Paz.
Avez-vous quelques précisions plus récentes pour que l'on ne soit pas trop paumés arrivés à Copa ? (horaires des bateaux, noms des villages concernés, horaires des bus, ...).
Je remonte ce post car comme Sokomano, nous pensons : Jour 1 : Arriver de Puno par bus à Copacabana ; dormir à Copacabana. Jour 2 : Bateau Copacabana - sud de l'ile du Soleil ; traversée de l'ile vers le nord ; dormir quelque part vers le nord. Jour 3 : Bateau de quelque part vers le nord - Copacabana ; bus pour La Paz.
Avez-vous quelques précisions plus récentes pour que l'on ne soit pas trop paumés arrivés à Copa ? (horaires des bateaux, noms des villages concernés, horaires des bus, ...).
Eric
Bonjour,
Le village du nord se nommme Cha'llapampa, celui du sud Yumani. Il y a un départ vers 8h30, et 13h.
Quand vous arrivez à copa, renseignez-vous au "port", vous pouvez acheter vos billets avant.
Pour aller de Puno à Copa, il n'est pas nécessaire de prendre le gros bus à touristes. Allez au terminal zonal et prenez un combi, vous profiterez plus: vous serez avec les locaux, et c'est moins cher.
Bon voyage!
Le village du nord se nommme Cha'llapampa, celui du sud Yumani. Il y a un départ vers 8h30, et 13h.
Quand vous arrivez à copa, renseignez-vous au "port", vous pouvez acheter vos billets avant.
Pour aller de Puno à Copa, il n'est pas nécessaire de prendre le gros bus à touristes. Allez au terminal zonal et prenez un combi, vous profiterez plus: vous serez avec les locaux, et c'est moins cher.
Bon voyage!
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Hi there,
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July. I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route. Can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?