Niko
Itinéraire en Birmanie
by Boulba
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut à tous les voyageurs ! J'ai dans la main droite mon billet d'avion pour la Birmanie me laissant un peu plus de trois semaines de bonheur en perspective et dans la gauche mon guide du routard pour tenter d'organiser un itinéraire (je tape sur le clavier avec une troiséme main que la nature m'a généreusement donné 😉) et j'avoue avoir du mal à composer un parcours qui tiendrait compte de ce qu'il ne faut pas manquer pour un premier voyage, du temps, de l'ett des routes, des moyens de transport etc... Ceux d'entre vous qui connaissent ce pays comme leur poche peuvent peut être me conseiller les "Must" réalisables en trois semaines ? Merci d'avance à tous et longue vie...
Niko
Niko
Bonjour
Pour la réponse à ta question, je te dirai d'aller voir le carnet de voyage de Nancy sur ce forum il s'institule (Biramnie en novembre 2004), ça te donnera ne bonne idée d'un iténéraire de 3 sem en Birmanie avec beaucoup d'autres informations, tu peux contacter Gulliver tours & travels à Yangoon qui te suggèra un itinéraire et les prix d'avion si tu veux sauver du temps à l'intérieur du pays.
Je serai là moi aussi au début de février pour 3 sem. peut être aurons l'occasion de nous rencontrer.
Bonne chance ds tes recherches et bon voyage.
Rachel
Salut l'homme a trois mains,
Les quatre "musts" d'un trajet classique seraient Rangoon (au moins deux ou trois nuits car meme si pas mal de voyageurs zappent il y a quelques trucs a faire--je peux te renseigner sur Rangoon en particulier, car je ne connais pas toute la Birmanie comme my pocket, mais Rangoon, si), puis Inle Lake ( avec les grottes de Pandaya le premier jour, quand tu arrives a l'aéroport de Heho, prend un taxi jusqu'aux grottes -2 heures-, puis vers le lac -3 heures-, tu peux rester a Ngyang Shwe, le village ou dans un hotel sur le lac, je suis sure que le GdR a des adresses-- evite le Golden Cottages cependant. Ensuite, Mandalay, puis Bagan. C'est les 4 grands classiques.
Tu peux aussi ajouter Ngapali pour la plage et Mrauk-U à partir de Ngapali. Si tu préfères rester dans l'état Shan, tu peux, à partir d'Inle aller à Taunggy, et meme pousser jusqu'à Kentung. Mais on sort un peu des sentiers battus.
Pour les moyens de transport, je voyage en général en avion (faute de temps), et il y a souvent des promos entre Rangoon et Ngapali ou Rangoon et Bagan. Mais il y a aussi des bus. Je te conseille si tu veux passer par une agence locale de passer par Diethelm Travel, ils sont très compétents (et c'est eux qui ont les promos).
Le temps est génial en ce moment.
Bon voyage!
Pam
Les quatre "musts" d'un trajet classique seraient Rangoon (au moins deux ou trois nuits car meme si pas mal de voyageurs zappent il y a quelques trucs a faire--je peux te renseigner sur Rangoon en particulier, car je ne connais pas toute la Birmanie comme my pocket, mais Rangoon, si), puis Inle Lake ( avec les grottes de Pandaya le premier jour, quand tu arrives a l'aéroport de Heho, prend un taxi jusqu'aux grottes -2 heures-, puis vers le lac -3 heures-, tu peux rester a Ngyang Shwe, le village ou dans un hotel sur le lac, je suis sure que le GdR a des adresses-- evite le Golden Cottages cependant. Ensuite, Mandalay, puis Bagan. C'est les 4 grands classiques.
Tu peux aussi ajouter Ngapali pour la plage et Mrauk-U à partir de Ngapali. Si tu préfères rester dans l'état Shan, tu peux, à partir d'Inle aller à Taunggy, et meme pousser jusqu'à Kentung. Mais on sort un peu des sentiers battus.
Pour les moyens de transport, je voyage en général en avion (faute de temps), et il y a souvent des promos entre Rangoon et Ngapali ou Rangoon et Bagan. Mais il y a aussi des bus. Je te conseille si tu veux passer par une agence locale de passer par Diethelm Travel, ils sont très compétents (et c'est eux qui ont les promos).
Le temps est génial en ce moment.
Bon voyage!
Pam
bonjour
J'ai passé 4 semaines au Myanmar mi-nov- mi-dec 2005 Notre itinéraire: yangon, rocher d'or, toung oo, bagan, mandalay, may myo, hsi paw, mandalay, inle, kalaw, yangon
si c'était à refaire, je n'irais pas à mandalay ni le nord et opterais pour l'arakan
Donc voila ce que je te conseille pour 3 semaines yangon rocher d'or (partir de la gare routiere avant 9 h pour arriver en début AM) montée folklo en camion au rocher dormir au Sea Sar et quitter le lendemain matin vers 8h30pour bago bago visite AM et commencer la montée vers le nord Je te conseille de prendre le train, c'est long mais au moins tu peux bouger maisc'est surtout dans le train que tu es proche de la vie locale Bago Thazi en train arrivée à Thazi vers 19h : seulement 2 GH pour l'hebergement, celle où nous avons dormi est sommaire mais propre et voilà mon coup de coeur au Myanmar:le train Thazi Kalaw qui pars ves 9h tu traverses des paysages de montagnes magnifiques, des villages à l'écart de tout ( nous avons regretté de l'avoir fait dans l'autre sens car le train quittant Kalaw ves 15h, la nuit nous a caché une bonne partie du trajet) Kalaw 2à 3 jours pour un trek qui t'emmène dormir dans une famille Birmane Inlé 2à 3 jours Bagan :il faut y rester au moins pour 2 couchers de soleil Et 0 Bagan je te conseille de prendre l'avion pour l'Arakan ( j'ai rencontré des voyageurs qui en revenaient enthousiasmés) Comme c'est à l'écart il faut bien 5 jours pour en profiter Pour = d'info, je suis disponible
J'ai passé 4 semaines au Myanmar mi-nov- mi-dec 2005 Notre itinéraire: yangon, rocher d'or, toung oo, bagan, mandalay, may myo, hsi paw, mandalay, inle, kalaw, yangon
si c'était à refaire, je n'irais pas à mandalay ni le nord et opterais pour l'arakan
Donc voila ce que je te conseille pour 3 semaines yangon rocher d'or (partir de la gare routiere avant 9 h pour arriver en début AM) montée folklo en camion au rocher dormir au Sea Sar et quitter le lendemain matin vers 8h30pour bago bago visite AM et commencer la montée vers le nord Je te conseille de prendre le train, c'est long mais au moins tu peux bouger maisc'est surtout dans le train que tu es proche de la vie locale Bago Thazi en train arrivée à Thazi vers 19h : seulement 2 GH pour l'hebergement, celle où nous avons dormi est sommaire mais propre et voilà mon coup de coeur au Myanmar:le train Thazi Kalaw qui pars ves 9h tu traverses des paysages de montagnes magnifiques, des villages à l'écart de tout ( nous avons regretté de l'avoir fait dans l'autre sens car le train quittant Kalaw ves 15h, la nuit nous a caché une bonne partie du trajet) Kalaw 2à 3 jours pour un trek qui t'emmène dormir dans une famille Birmane Inlé 2à 3 jours Bagan :il faut y rester au moins pour 2 couchers de soleil Et 0 Bagan je te conseille de prendre l'avion pour l'Arakan ( j'ai rencontré des voyageurs qui en revenaient enthousiasmés) Comme c'est à l'écart il faut bien 5 jours pour en profiter Pour = d'info, je suis disponible
tinae
en plus des endroits cités je te conseille également Mawlamyine, au sud du rocher d'or. C'est une petite ville qui jusqu'à quelques années en arrière était interdite aux étrangers. J'y suis allée en février juste après la fin de la construction d'un pont qui rend le trajet plus court (mais le paysage moins beau !). Tranquille, très peu de touristes et quelques ptites choses à voir aux alentours... ce qui m'a marqué: une petite fille s'est mise à pleurer en me voyant parce qu'elle avait jamais vu de blancs (ouais parce que je suis pas si moche tout de même ! mdr 😄)
J'étais à la Breeze Rest House, jolie chambres qui donnent sur un balcon, à l'étage ou vis la famille proprio, qui sont adorables... je mangeais souvent avec eux et le proprio + son fils (ou son neveu chais plus) ont la tchatche !
Tu veux rire ! Bien sûr qu'il m'a aidé (comme tous vos commentaires ) et je dirais même que je l'ai lu avec beaucoup de plaisir. Tu as un style trés fluide, trés sensitif, trés agréable.(Et je suis du metier). Bref, grâce à vous ce lointain pays me semble beaucoup moins obscur. Par contre, je me rends compte que les déplacements durent un temps fou !
Merci à tous et à bientôt
Niko🙂
Niko🙂
Salut !
Ben moi, je suis parti 3 semaines en janvier/fevrier l'année passée :
Yangon - Mandalay - Monywa - Bagan - Kalaw - Lac Inle et retour Yangon
A Mandalay, j'ai pris un jour pour aller voir le pont en bois à Amarapura (ballade sympa en vélo) et un jour pour Mingun (touristique mais incontournable). J'ai aussi été à Pyin U Lwin pour la journée (train à 4h45 !), tres sympa pour l'ambiance, peut-etre inutile si tu a deja fait d'autres trajets en train (ce n'était pas mon cas)
J'ai bien aimé le détour par Monywa : très peu de touristes et la pagode "palais-du-facteur-Cheval" vaut vraiment le detour + permet d'éviter le trajet en bateau à touristes Mandalay-Bagan. A la place : bus jusque Pakokku, puis bateau birman jusque Bagan.
Kalaw : 2 jours de rando en montagne. Mon meilleur souvenir. Pour les courageux, aller jusqu'au lac Inle, c'est encore mieux, parait-il. Le patelin est très différent du reste du pays, je trouve (un peu zen...)
Lac Inle : tres touristique. Je recommande quand meme la balade à vélo jusqu'au premier village après Nyaungshwe. La, balade en barque non motorisée possible dans le village (bien que ce soit théoriquement interdit)
D'apres ce que j'ai vu et entendu, Mrauk-U pourrait bien être le sommet absolu d'un voyage en Birmanie (beauté/authenticité) mais il faut beaucoup, beaucoup de temps...
Voilà, voilà, bon voyage !
A Mandalay, j'ai pris un jour pour aller voir le pont en bois à Amarapura (ballade sympa en vélo) et un jour pour Mingun (touristique mais incontournable). J'ai aussi été à Pyin U Lwin pour la journée (train à 4h45 !), tres sympa pour l'ambiance, peut-etre inutile si tu a deja fait d'autres trajets en train (ce n'était pas mon cas)
J'ai bien aimé le détour par Monywa : très peu de touristes et la pagode "palais-du-facteur-Cheval" vaut vraiment le detour + permet d'éviter le trajet en bateau à touristes Mandalay-Bagan. A la place : bus jusque Pakokku, puis bateau birman jusque Bagan.
Kalaw : 2 jours de rando en montagne. Mon meilleur souvenir. Pour les courageux, aller jusqu'au lac Inle, c'est encore mieux, parait-il. Le patelin est très différent du reste du pays, je trouve (un peu zen...)
Lac Inle : tres touristique. Je recommande quand meme la balade à vélo jusqu'au premier village après Nyaungshwe. La, balade en barque non motorisée possible dans le village (bien que ce soit théoriquement interdit)
D'apres ce que j'ai vu et entendu, Mrauk-U pourrait bien être le sommet absolu d'un voyage en Birmanie (beauté/authenticité) mais il faut beaucoup, beaucoup de temps...
Voilà, voilà, bon voyage !
tu peux aller voir quelques photos sur mon blog http://octavepatapon.skyblog.com
et si tu as le temps lire Le palais des miroirs d'Amitav Ghosh au seuil, roman passionnant qui fait sentir l'histoire récente de la birmanie,
à ta disposition pour répondre à tes questions
Mûris, et sois sans inquiétude de te changer en pire , deviens la lumière.(Rûmî)
Autre expérience d'il y a trois ans. Par Internet, nous avons bloqué les services d'un chauffeur-guide merveilleux, recommandé par un français qui nous a baladé trois semaines.
C'est un indépendant, donc votre argent ne va pas dans la poche de la dictature militaire. Il s'est occupé de tout: logement dans des hotels (on a fixé au départ le prix maximum que l'on voulait payer) restos et gargotes birmanes, les sites que nous voulions voir après avoir potassé les bouquins, bref ce fut un de nos plus beaux voyages. Le chauffeur est devenu un ami et nous continuons à correspondre. Mais attention, il faut penser à sa propres sécurité, les birmans sont surveillés et il ne faut rien écrire par mail qui puisse les compromettre. Nous parlions librement dans sa voiture mais jamais à l'extérieur.
Si vous voulez son mail, je vous le donnerai volontiers.
Salut
Je lisais le trajet que tu avais fait en Birmanie et c'est exactement ce que j'avais prévu faire, j'aimerais savoir si tu as visité les grottes des hpo winn daung dans les environs de Monywa (a peu pres 25 km) et si oui j'appécierais tes commentaires et si ça vaut la peine d'y aller.
Merci à l'avance Rousse
Merci à l'avance Rousse
Ca devait etre assez chez de prendre un chauffeur pdt 3 semaines qd meme? Et on devient plus spectateur de son voyage.
- Suivre son chemin-
Pour te faire une idée d'itinéraire, prix, conseils pratiques, tu peux aller voir mon récit de voyage http://jacquinfr.free.fr
Salut,
Oui, je suis allé à Hpo Win Daung : impressions mélangées, peut-être plus dues aux circonstances un peu galère qu'à l'endroit lui-même. Extrait de mon blog de l'époque :
"Ce devait être la journée la plus routarde : aller chercher les grottes de Hpo Win Daung dans la montagne par les moyens de transport locaux, mais le gouvernement a changé la donne. Désormais, obligation de prendre un bateau réservé aux touristes pour traverser le fleuve et de louer une Jeep. C'est de l'apartheid touristique et ça nous énerve. A l'arrivée dans ce trou perdu, cela aurait dû être un moment zen. Faute de guide, on visite ces sanctuaires anciens creusés dans la roche avec la folle du village qui nous hurle sans arrêt des trucs en birman mais sans les consonnes (elle a un problème de dents) : "Ayawehonwahouwahiyi !" Ah bon ? Après quoi, Alain retourne sur Mandalay tandis que je me repose un peu à Monywa."
Donc, au départ, je voulais y consacrer une journée mais j'y suis allé avec un gars rencontré à Mandalay et qui retournait sur cette ville dans l'après-midi, donc déjà : pas eu beaucoup de temps. Au village, un guide voulait absolument nous accompagner, apres tout ce qui avait précédé, on a dit non (souvent je préfère profiter de l'atmosphère des lieux, quitte à louper qq infos culturelles...) et on a probablement eu tort, je pense qu'on n'a pas tout vu. Au delà, je pense que le site dégage une atmosphère de bout du monde assez prenante (grandes forêts, village envahi par les singes) et qu'il doit y avoir moyen d'y passer une journée mémorable. Je te le recommande donc quand même. Quant à la paya Thanbodday, on l'a visitée (en taxi bleu) le jour même de notre arrivée. Le bus de Mandalay partant à l'aube (6h30 ou 7h), on disposait encore de toute l'apres-midi ce jour-là. Un dernier tuyau pour Monywa : il y a un très chouette resto qui n'est dans aucun guide. En partant de l'hotel Monywa, où tu risques fort de loger, tu retournes vers le centre jusqu'au premier carrefour, et tu tournes deux fois sur ta gauche. Genre de grande terrasse en plein air où les Birmans viennent boire des bières en regardant la télé, mais cuisine étonnamment fine. L'endroit s'appelle le Chin Dwin Shwe. Prends une lampe de poche pour le retour (pas le moindre éclairage public).
Oui, je suis allé à Hpo Win Daung : impressions mélangées, peut-être plus dues aux circonstances un peu galère qu'à l'endroit lui-même. Extrait de mon blog de l'époque :
"Ce devait être la journée la plus routarde : aller chercher les grottes de Hpo Win Daung dans la montagne par les moyens de transport locaux, mais le gouvernement a changé la donne. Désormais, obligation de prendre un bateau réservé aux touristes pour traverser le fleuve et de louer une Jeep. C'est de l'apartheid touristique et ça nous énerve. A l'arrivée dans ce trou perdu, cela aurait dû être un moment zen. Faute de guide, on visite ces sanctuaires anciens creusés dans la roche avec la folle du village qui nous hurle sans arrêt des trucs en birman mais sans les consonnes (elle a un problème de dents) : "Ayawehonwahouwahiyi !" Ah bon ? Après quoi, Alain retourne sur Mandalay tandis que je me repose un peu à Monywa."
Donc, au départ, je voulais y consacrer une journée mais j'y suis allé avec un gars rencontré à Mandalay et qui retournait sur cette ville dans l'après-midi, donc déjà : pas eu beaucoup de temps. Au village, un guide voulait absolument nous accompagner, apres tout ce qui avait précédé, on a dit non (souvent je préfère profiter de l'atmosphère des lieux, quitte à louper qq infos culturelles...) et on a probablement eu tort, je pense qu'on n'a pas tout vu. Au delà, je pense que le site dégage une atmosphère de bout du monde assez prenante (grandes forêts, village envahi par les singes) et qu'il doit y avoir moyen d'y passer une journée mémorable. Je te le recommande donc quand même. Quant à la paya Thanbodday, on l'a visitée (en taxi bleu) le jour même de notre arrivée. Le bus de Mandalay partant à l'aube (6h30 ou 7h), on disposait encore de toute l'apres-midi ce jour-là. Un dernier tuyau pour Monywa : il y a un très chouette resto qui n'est dans aucun guide. En partant de l'hotel Monywa, où tu risques fort de loger, tu retournes vers le centre jusqu'au premier carrefour, et tu tournes deux fois sur ta gauche. Genre de grande terrasse en plein air où les Birmans viennent boire des bières en regardant la télé, mais cuisine étonnamment fine. L'endroit s'appelle le Chin Dwin Shwe. Prends une lampe de poche pour le retour (pas le moindre éclairage public).
Merci Lifo pour ta réponse, très intéressant, je suis curieuse et je vais surement y aller. Ton extrait de blog est assez drole et j'aurais bien aimé lire la suite. Merci pour le tuyau du resto.
Rousse
Salut Lifo
J'ai lu ton blog et j'ai bien aimé ton humour et ta vision de la Birmanie, crois tu que je pourrais faire le voyage à l'inverse de toi, c.a.d. Yangoon, Bagan, Pakokku, Monywa, Mandalay, Kalaw. Inlé, Yangoon. Là, ou je vois peut être une difficulté, c'est à savoir si le bateau qui part de Bagan via Mandalay s'arrête à Pakokku. Si tu peux me renseigner là dessus je t'en serais reconnaissante. Merci pour le blog Rousse
J'ai lu ton blog et j'ai bien aimé ton humour et ta vision de la Birmanie, crois tu que je pourrais faire le voyage à l'inverse de toi, c.a.d. Yangoon, Bagan, Pakokku, Monywa, Mandalay, Kalaw. Inlé, Yangoon. Là, ou je vois peut être une difficulté, c'est à savoir si le bateau qui part de Bagan via Mandalay s'arrête à Pakokku. Si tu peux me renseigner là dessus je t'en serais reconnaissante. Merci pour le blog Rousse
Oui les grottes de HPO WIN DONG valent le déplacement, mais prends ton temps car sur la route
MONYWA MANDALAY il y a beaucoup de choses à voir notamment la Pagode THANBODDHAY,
un BOUDHA couché de 90 mètres et et les 1000 boudhas sous 1000 banians.
Quand pars-tu ? Nous, nous y repartons pour la troisième fois dans une semaine exactement.
Si tu as besoin de tuyaux n'hésite pas.
LOBO
La photo a été prise à PHO WIN DONG j'en ai d'autres, mais je n'ai pu en télécharger qu'une.
LOBO
La photo a été prise à PHO WIN DONG j'en ai d'autres, mais je n'ai pu en télécharger qu'une.
VOYAGER C'EST FACILE.........IL SUFFIT DE PARTIR
toutes mes photos :www.picasaweb.google.fr/LOVIBO
toutes mes photos :www.picasaweb.google.fr/LOVIBO
Merci à Tekkah et à toi Lobo pour vos commentaires, je vais y aller.
Je serai en Birmanie vers le 2 ou 3 février, tout dépendant du temps que ça prendra pour l'obtention de mon visa à Bangkok.
Je ferai probablement 2 trajets en Avion à l'intérieur du pays, j'avais pensé passer par Monywa pour éviter le trajet Mandalay Bagan, j'aimerais savoir si le trajet entre Bagan et le lac Inlé est long en bus ? Est ce que je peux aussi acheter un billet d'avion à Hého pour le retour sur Yangoon ou si il faut acheter à Yangoon avant de monter?
Merci à l'avance de vos réponses.
Rousse
Merci à toutes et à tous. Vos précieux conseils me permettent d'établir un itinéraire réaliste.
Je pars le 7 fevrier pour un retour le 4 mars. Mon plus grand soucis et de faire coincider visites - transports - distances pour s'adapter à mon rythme que je veux suffisament lent pour m'imprégner du pays sans avoir l'impression de faire un marathon.
Visiblement il y a ceux qui remontent l'axe Yangoon - Mandalay en passant par Inle puis font Bagan et redescendent et puis il y a ceux qui foncent directement à Mandalay et visitent en redescendant vers le sud pour terminer par Yangoon - Rocher d'or. C'est sur qu'un vol interieur doit permettre de gagner du temps au retour ou a l'aller... Je peaufine et je vous harcéle de questions ensuite !
Niko😉
Niko😉
Pour les billets d'avion en général, aucun probleme. La plupart des guesthouses peuvent les commander pour toi. Sinon, il y a des petites agences de voyage locales qui le font aussi. A Nyaungshwe (lac Inle), je me méfiais un peu du personnel indolent de ma guesthouse et j'ai trouvé une petite agence sympa dans la rue principale. Je leur ai aussi réservé un taxi pour l'aéroport et une balade sur le lac.
N'achète surtout pas de vols intérieurs sur internet avant ton départ, même s'il y a des soi-disant promotions : c'est bien moins cher sur place.
Bagan - Kalaw, si tu as lu mon blog, tu auras compris que ce n'était pas vraiment en 1ere classe mais ce genre d'experience peut faire partie du voyage. La distance n'est pas si grande, en bus ca doit aller.
Pour Heho-Yangon, je conseille l'avion (il y a un an, ca coutait 100 $) : c'est tres long, tu roules toute la nuit sans dormir, et quand il fait clair, tu es dans des paysages de plaine sans grand intérêt. Achete ton billet un peu à l'avance si tu peux mais, hors vacances scolaires francaises (en Birmanie, les 3/4 des touristes sont francais), tu as peu de chances d'avoir des problemes de place.
N'achète surtout pas de vols intérieurs sur internet avant ton départ, même s'il y a des soi-disant promotions : c'est bien moins cher sur place.
Bagan - Kalaw, si tu as lu mon blog, tu auras compris que ce n'était pas vraiment en 1ere classe mais ce genre d'experience peut faire partie du voyage. La distance n'est pas si grande, en bus ca doit aller.
Pour Heho-Yangon, je conseille l'avion (il y a un an, ca coutait 100 $) : c'est tres long, tu roules toute la nuit sans dormir, et quand il fait clair, tu es dans des paysages de plaine sans grand intérêt. Achete ton billet un peu à l'avance si tu peux mais, hors vacances scolaires francaises (en Birmanie, les 3/4 des touristes sont francais), tu as peu de chances d'avoir des problemes de place.
Ah oui, j'ai oublié une réponse :
le bateau Bagan-Mandalay ne s'arrete probablement pas à Pakokku : c'est une autre ligne de bateaux. (mais je suppose que le le bateau que j'avais pris fait aussi des trajets retour !)
Dernier truc : pour Bagan - lac Inle, si tu trouves le bus trop inconfortable et que tu veux voir le paysage, tu peux toujours essayer d'affreter un taxi. D'autant plus interessant si vous voyagez à 2.
le bateau Bagan-Mandalay ne s'arrete probablement pas à Pakokku : c'est une autre ligne de bateaux. (mais je suppose que le le bateau que j'avais pris fait aussi des trajets retour !)
Dernier truc : pour Bagan - lac Inle, si tu trouves le bus trop inconfortable et que tu veux voir le paysage, tu peux toujours essayer d'affreter un taxi. D'autant plus interessant si vous voyagez à 2.
Encore merci Lifo pour tes présieuses informations.
Dernières questions, les vacances scolaires en France c'est quand? Pis, si tu peux me donner, les guesthouses que tu as fait à Mandalay, Bagan, Kalaw, Inlé et les prix approximatif. Pour Monywa, j'ai vue l'hotel Monywa et Yangoon le white house.
J.ai bien hâte de découvrir ce merveilleux pays....je pars dans 2 sem.
Merci
Rousse
Slt, Nous sommes rentrés le 10 janvier d'un périple d'un mois au Myanmar... C'était notre premier voyage et nous avons fait un parcours assez confortable et classique mais nous avons pris quelques vols internes ...car la route c'est vraiment galère galère galère ...les routes ressemblent en gros à des chemins de vignes non entretenus ... Nous avons donc fait Yangon - Bago en bus ( tu peux rajouter le Rcoher d'or si tu y tiens - 3-4 heures de Bago) puis Yangon - Lac inlé en avion puis Inlé - Pindaya - Mandalay en voiture -
Mandalay - Bagan en bateau et Bagan Ngapali en avion puis retour à Ngapali en avion. Le mont popa et Salay se font en une journée depuis Bagan...
ON est restés une semaine à Ngapali donc tu vois tout le reste se fait en trois semaines. Ngapali c'est la plage : nous on a bcp aimé - c'est une plage absolument somptueuse avec des pêcheurs adorables et de la langouste grillé à 1 $ mais ce n'est surement pas ce qui est essentiel à voir en Birmanie ... Ca dépend des goûts ... Si tu veux quand même faire un petit break à la plage tu peux aller à 4 h de Yangon, il parait que les plages sont aussi très sympa.
Pour le reste çà dépend de ton budget et de la façon dont tu voyages. Pour ma part je ne regrette absoluement les vols internes d'autant que les sommes des vols sont modiques ...
Bon séjour dans ce formidable pays et emporte un bon pull voire une veste car à part à yangon en cette saison les nuits sont fraîches ... Le 1er janvier sur la plage on avait trop froid ... Si tu veux plus d'infos n'hésite pas.
Fabio et gina
Vacances scolaires en France... euh pas avant le 18/2 en tout cas (chez nous - Belgik - les vacances de printemps commencent le 25/2 mais ne durent qu'une semaine contre 2 en France), je me renseigne...
Mandalay : Royal guesthouse : rien à dire càd parfait sous tous rapports, avec en + un loueur de vélos en face. Resto préféré : le Lashio Lay.
Bagan : Golden village inn (Nyaung U): bien aussi (globalement le niveau est bon en Birmanie, je ne suis pas très difficile non plus), location de vélos sur place (le meilleur moyen pour voir Bagan)
Beaucoup de mauvais restos, par contre, à Nyaung U, dans la zone touristique. Le meilleur que j'aie trouvé, c'est le Nation (et ils font des bons jus de fruits aussi)
Kalaw : Golden Kalaw inn. Je suis passé par eux pour le guide rando aussi. Et Everest restaurant, ambiance indo-népalaise et ils font des Lassis, ces merveilleux yaourts indiens.
Nyaungshwe : Nawng Kham guesthouse, mais il y a surement moyen de trouver mieux. Resto : euh... un truc qui n'est pas dans les guides, sur Youngyi road (entre l'entrée du village et le canal) près d'une vieille usine brinquebalante et fumante que tu ne peux pas rater.
Tous les autres se trouvent dans le LP et le GDR. Pour le Myanmar, je trouve ce dernier guide meilleur.
Mandalay : Royal guesthouse : rien à dire càd parfait sous tous rapports, avec en + un loueur de vélos en face. Resto préféré : le Lashio Lay.
Bagan : Golden village inn (Nyaung U): bien aussi (globalement le niveau est bon en Birmanie, je ne suis pas très difficile non plus), location de vélos sur place (le meilleur moyen pour voir Bagan)
Beaucoup de mauvais restos, par contre, à Nyaung U, dans la zone touristique. Le meilleur que j'aie trouvé, c'est le Nation (et ils font des bons jus de fruits aussi)
Kalaw : Golden Kalaw inn. Je suis passé par eux pour le guide rando aussi. Et Everest restaurant, ambiance indo-népalaise et ils font des Lassis, ces merveilleux yaourts indiens.
Nyaungshwe : Nawng Kham guesthouse, mais il y a surement moyen de trouver mieux. Resto : euh... un truc qui n'est pas dans les guides, sur Youngyi road (entre l'entrée du village et le canal) près d'une vieille usine brinquebalante et fumante que tu ne peux pas rater.
Tous les autres se trouvent dans le LP et le GDR. Pour le Myanmar, je trouve ce dernier guide meilleur.
Dernières questions, les vacances scolaires en France c'est quand?
Bonjour,
Les vacances scolaires c'est du 5 février au 5 mars les trois zones confondu .
Bonjour,
Les vacances scolaires c'est du 5 février au 5 mars les trois zones confondu .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Merci à tous pour vos précieux conseils et informations, surtout à toi Lifo.
Bye
Rousse
Trés chér(e)s tous, merci encore de vos précieux conseils ! Voici l'itinéraire que j'ai concocté à partir de vos suggestions et en tenant compte de mon aspiration à un voyage paisible au niveau rythme. N'hésitez pas à me dire si cela vous semble déséquilibré, c'est le but de mon post !
Arrivée Rangoon Rangoon (Nuit 1 - 2 - 3) Excursion Rocher D'or (Nuit 4) BUS Retour Rangoon (Nuit 5) Avion pour Mandalay Mandalay (Nuit 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10) Départ Monywa (BUS) Monywa (Nuits 11 - 12) Départ Bagan (Bateau ????) Bagan (Nuits 13 - 14 - 15 - 16) Départ Kalaw (Taxi) Kalaw (Nuits 17 - 18) Départ Nyaung Schwé (Bus) Nyaung Schwé (Nuits 19 - 20 - 21 - 22) Départ Rangoon par le train Nuit 23 dans le train Rangoon (Nuits 24 - 25) Retour Paris Paris Nuit 26 à +++++ (:-) )
Voilà, je me demande si 5 nuits à Mandalay ce n'est pas trop ? Peut être prévoir une nuit a Bagan en plus ? Je ne suis pas sûr du bateau Monywa - Bagan... j'aimerais bien éviter la navette touristique de Mandalay ? Le train Inle - Rangoon ?
Voilà, qu'en pensez-vous ?
Niko
Arrivée Rangoon Rangoon (Nuit 1 - 2 - 3) Excursion Rocher D'or (Nuit 4) BUS Retour Rangoon (Nuit 5) Avion pour Mandalay Mandalay (Nuit 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10) Départ Monywa (BUS) Monywa (Nuits 11 - 12) Départ Bagan (Bateau ????) Bagan (Nuits 13 - 14 - 15 - 16) Départ Kalaw (Taxi) Kalaw (Nuits 17 - 18) Départ Nyaung Schwé (Bus) Nyaung Schwé (Nuits 19 - 20 - 21 - 22) Départ Rangoon par le train Nuit 23 dans le train Rangoon (Nuits 24 - 25) Retour Paris Paris Nuit 26 à +++++ (:-) )
Voilà, je me demande si 5 nuits à Mandalay ce n'est pas trop ? Peut être prévoir une nuit a Bagan en plus ? Je ne suis pas sûr du bateau Monywa - Bagan... j'aimerais bien éviter la navette touristique de Mandalay ? Le train Inle - Rangoon ?
Voilà, qu'en pensez-vous ?
Niko
Bonjour RACHEL
Si tu dois faire 2 vols pendant ton voyage je te conseille fortement HEHO ( INLE ) YANGOON,
et le deuxième YANGOON MANDALAY.
Si tu n'as pas d'impératif, revoie ton trajet et fais le ainsi/
YANGOON MANDALAY en AVION
MANDALAY BAGAN en BATEAU le lever du soleil au départ de Mandalay est magnifique
BAGAN MONT POPA KALAW ( TREK ) PINDAYA LAC INLE en TAXI ou en BUS La route est longue mais très belle
Crois-en mon expérience, je pense que finir par le LAC est mieux et c'est reposant.
S'il te reste 2 jours ne pas rater le ROCHER D'OR .
Je serai en BIRMANIE du 22 janvier au 10 février.
Je reste à ta disposition
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Salut,
Ton parcours est pas mal. Cependant, j'enlèverais une nuit en arrivant à Rangoon et une autre à Mandalay que je remettrais soit dans un trek d'une ou deux journées autour de Kalaw, soit dans la visite du delta (Pathein). Mais bon, avoir une ou deux journées de battement, c'est pas mal, soit pour se reposer un peu car un voyage là-bas ça fatigue un peu quand même, soit pour faire face à des aléas de voyage (il y a en toujours quelques-uns).
Ton parcours est pas mal. Cependant, j'enlèverais une nuit en arrivant à Rangoon et une autre à Mandalay que je remettrais soit dans un trek d'une ou deux journées autour de Kalaw, soit dans la visite du delta (Pathein). Mais bon, avoir une ou deux journées de battement, c'est pas mal, soit pour se reposer un peu car un voyage là-bas ça fatigue un peu quand même, soit pour faire face à des aléas de voyage (il y a en toujours quelques-uns).
Voyagez, voyagez, il en restera toujours quelque chose!
Bonjour Boulba,
Ton itinéraire me parait bien, mais comme Nestor, j'enleverais une nuit à Mandalay, d'après ce qu'on dit sur ce forum 4 suffisent. Pour Monywa via Bagan, tu devras prendre un bus pour Pakokku 3 à 4hre et le bateau pour Nyaung U (Bagan). voir le blog de Lifo. Je te souhaite un très beau Voyage. Tu pars quand? Rousse
Ton itinéraire me parait bien, mais comme Nestor, j'enleverais une nuit à Mandalay, d'après ce qu'on dit sur ce forum 4 suffisent. Pour Monywa via Bagan, tu devras prendre un bus pour Pakokku 3 à 4hre et le bateau pour Nyaung U (Bagan). voir le blog de Lifo. Je te souhaite un très beau Voyage. Tu pars quand? Rousse
Bonjour Lobo
J, avais l'intention de prendre Un vol pour Hého Yangoon pour le retour.
Mais pour le départ vers le nord, j'hésite encore à passer par Mandalay ou Bagan en avion bien sur.
Je vais y réfléchir, un arret au Mont Popa et Kalaw peut être une bonne alternative au long chemin qui relie au Lac Inlé. Mais je ne tenais pas à aller à Pindaya pour voir les grottes car j'aurai vu celles près de Monywa. As tu un idée du prix d'un taxi entre Bagan et Kalaw en faisant un arrêt à Popa?
Merci beaucoup pour ton intervention.
Et bon voyage à toi,
Rachel
Les grottes de PHO WIN DAUNG et celles de PINDAYA n'ont rien à voir et ce serait dommage de ne pas consacrer 3 ou 4
heures de ton voyage pour voir ces dernières qui sont uniques.
Si tu vas à MANDALAY en Avion tu pourras descendre l'IRRAWADY en bateau, ça vaut vraiment le coup.
Mais comme on dit " c'est vous qui voyez "
A bientôt
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Salut Lobo
Je ne suis pas dur à convaincre, ok pour les grottes de Pindaya, mais pour le bateau pas sur du tout.
Je verrai sur place.
Merci encore une fois pour ta réponse et bonne route.
Rachel
Salut !
Ton itinéraire est maintenant exactement identique à celui que j'ai fait il y a un an, donc en tout cas c'est faisable puisque je l'avais fait en 3 semaines et que je suis revenu. 😉
Mes remarques : ca fait beaucoup de nuits à Yangon, une ville que j'ai bien aimé, mais c'est très grand, il y fait plus chaud qu'ailleurs et il y a relativement peu de choses à voir. En plus, c'est prudent de garder un jour complet à Yangon en dernier (pour pas louper ton avion), à mon avis, deux jours en tout ça suffit. Si tu gardes tes jours tels quels, il y a des excursions autour de Yangon à faire dans la journée mais rien de bien fabuleux je pense.
Par contre Kalaw mérite plus, les "treks" n'ont rien à voir avec le Népal, côté sportif ça s'apparente plus à une balade dans la campagne et ça vaut la peine. Et si c'est pour du farniente, là aussi c'est question de goût, mais moi, je préfère une bourgade à la campagne qu'une ville de 5 millions d'habitants...
Heho-Yangon, je te conseille plutôt l'avion (en bus, c'est interminable et tu traverses les plus belles régions la nuit ; en train c'est encore plus long, mais certains disent que c'est magnifique, prévois une marge pour les aléas...)
Ton itinéraire est maintenant exactement identique à celui que j'ai fait il y a un an, donc en tout cas c'est faisable puisque je l'avais fait en 3 semaines et que je suis revenu. 😉
Mes remarques : ca fait beaucoup de nuits à Yangon, une ville que j'ai bien aimé, mais c'est très grand, il y fait plus chaud qu'ailleurs et il y a relativement peu de choses à voir. En plus, c'est prudent de garder un jour complet à Yangon en dernier (pour pas louper ton avion), à mon avis, deux jours en tout ça suffit. Si tu gardes tes jours tels quels, il y a des excursions autour de Yangon à faire dans la journée mais rien de bien fabuleux je pense.
Par contre Kalaw mérite plus, les "treks" n'ont rien à voir avec le Népal, côté sportif ça s'apparente plus à une balade dans la campagne et ça vaut la peine. Et si c'est pour du farniente, là aussi c'est question de goût, mais moi, je préfère une bourgade à la campagne qu'une ville de 5 millions d'habitants...
Heho-Yangon, je te conseille plutôt l'avion (en bus, c'est interminable et tu traverses les plus belles régions la nuit ; en train c'est encore plus long, mais certains disent que c'est magnifique, prévois une marge pour les aléas...)
Merci à vous tous et particulièrement Nestor et Lifo pour vos réponses. Je vais donc enlever une nuit à Yangoon, une à Mandalay et peut être prévoir de prendre un avion entre Heho et Yangoon ce qui me fait gagner une troiséme nuit ! Je reste deux nuit à Kalaw, une troisiéme est envisageable. Y'a t'il une ville sur le chemin qui ne perturbe pas l'itinéraire et soit une bonne halte ? Derniére question, je voulais vraiment prendre le train pendant le séjour, y'a t'il une portion moins galére que Inle Yangoon (sans doute trés trés long) ?
Encore merci à vous tous !
En réponse à Rousse, je serais en Birmanie du 7 février au 4 mars. (ça approche 😏)
Salut à tous
Niko
En réponse à Rousse, je serais en Birmanie du 7 février au 4 mars. (ça approche 😏)
Salut à tous
Niko
Le plus beau trajet en train parait-il car je ne l'ai fait qu' en bus ou en voiture
est THAZI INLE c'est évidemment beaucoup moins long que d'aller jusqu'à YANGOON .
Par contre je te conseille fortement l'avion entre HEHO et YANGOON je l'ai fait en bus et en voiture, c'est interminable.
Nous serons en BIRMANIE dans 5 jours maintenant et nous commençons par MRAUK U
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En effet à THAZY il n'y a rien à voir, c'est juste pour prendrte le train ...
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Maintenant que j'ai une petite idée de mon itinéraire, j'ai besoin d'info sur le prix des billets d'avions sur les trajets suivants :
Yangoon - Mandaley (Allez simple)
Heho - Yangoon (Allez simple)
Yangoon - Ngapali (Allez Retour)
Etant donné qu'il faut partir avec du cache, je n'aimerais pas me retrouver à cours.
Merci d'avance à tous !
Niko
Yangoon - Mandaley (Allez simple)
Heho - Yangoon (Allez simple)
Yangoon - Ngapali (Allez Retour)
Etant donné qu'il faut partir avec du cache, je n'aimerais pas me retrouver à cours.
Merci d'avance à tous !
Niko
Il y a un an j'ai payé 100$ pour Yangon-Mandalay et 100$ également pour Heho-Yangon. Attends-toi peut-etre à une légère augmentation (prix des carburants) : 120 $ ?
Mais à l'époque de mon voyage, le dollar valait aussi beaucoup moins : c'était 1, 33 dollar pour un euro. Quelqu'un a une expérience plus récente ?
Mais à l'époque de mon voyage, le dollar valait aussi beaucoup moins : c'était 1, 33 dollar pour un euro. Quelqu'un a une expérience plus récente ?
Salut
Je ne suis pas sur que l'aéroport pour Ngapali soit ouverte à tous les jours, car il semblerait qu'ils sont en réparation. Va voir sur le site de air mandalay.com, il y a une note.
Rousse
Bon, grace à vous tous, Lifo, Nancy et toute la bande, me voici donc fin prêt au départ prévu pour le 7 février (Via Kuala Lumpur). Etant donné que je vais passer quelques temps à Rangoon et que Nancy n'avait pas l'air trés emballée par sa guesthouse, je me demandais si vous aviez un endroiut à me conseiller sur place et dans quel quartier : Downton ? Schwedagon ? D'habitude j'aime bien trouver un lieu que je "sens bien" en arrivant dans une ville mais aprés le voyage depuis la France, je pense que ça va me saouler de courrir la guesthouse 😛. Donc voilà, une fois de plus, vos conseils éclairés sont les bienvenue.
A pluche
Niko
A pluche
Niko
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Je n ai pas trouvé d infos récentes sur Kuching
Est ce quelqu un peut recommander un hotel ou une guesthouse à moins de 100 RM bien et pas cher? pas de dortoir merci
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Hi,
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Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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Thanks in advance for your tips!
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Time to hit the road again!
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.






