Compte rendu de voyage en Thaïlande et recherche d'hôtel près du marché flottant de Damnoen Saduak
by Queenmila
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Après un superbe voyage en Thailande fevrier dernier, pendant lequel nous ( mon mari et moi ) avons fait plusieurs étapes, phuket avec 2 excursions phi phi et l'ile de james bond, puis les iles similan avec une nuit à kao lak ensuite de l'autre côté koh phangan ( full moon party ) pour rejoindre l'aéroport de samui direction chiang mai magnifique, les élephants, les tribus, doi sutep, pour finir par bangkok 3 jours, finir ??? non ! on a loupé bêtement le vol prévu le 26 à minuit et demi, et je me ramène comme une fleur vers 22h à l'aéroport, sauf qu'à minuit on est passé au 27 ! un peu rassurée de trouver 30 personnes se planter aussi, donc les vols sont full full full alors on part à kuala lumpur pour prendre un vol direct paris sur air asia tres inconfortable, mais enfin arrivés !
grace à vous mon séjour s'est super bien passé, si bien que nous y retournons fevrier prochain, cette fois-ci j'organise l'étape de bangkok vers ghanesha park pour profiter d'un contact unique avec les élephants, , j'ai decidé de dormir une nuit près du marché flottant damnoen saduak afin d'être sur place pour y aller dès le matin tres tôt et terminer avant l'arrivée des autocars de touristes, donc je cherche un hôtel confortable et propre dans le coin, et si par la même occasion pouviez me renseigner sur le tarif du bateau à louer pour la visite, je l'ai fait il y a qqes années mais completement oublié les tarifs pratiqués, je ne negocie pas trop mais je ne veux pas me faire avoir !
après le marché, je dois me trouver un moyen pour rejoindre kanchanaburi, lequel ? également un logement sur place, si vous pouvez m'en conseiller un, pour finir au ganesha park !
merci bcp pour votre aide ! mila
j'ai decidé de dormir une nuit près du marché flottant damnoen saduak afin d'être sur place pour y aller dès le matin tres tôt et terminer avant l'arrivée des autocars de touristes,
bonjour avis personnel .. je crois que tu vas être comme la + parts des amateurs de thailande .. déçu .( il y en a beaucoup qui vont bien voir pattaya .. pour LA thailance .. )
- mais bon .. c'est juste pour un peut mettre les choses au clair .. il n'y a pas comme c'est prétendu .. dans les bibles guides .. que 1 seul marche flottant .. il y en a plusieurs et pas besoin de faire 40 klm pour les voir .. il y en a en plein Bangkok .. et non touristique pour la bonne raison c'est que ils ne sont répertoriée que en thai .. exemple le marche flottant ( petit certes ) de wat sapan .. qui y va memme pas un touriste .. meme thuan qui pourtant passe devant tout les jours .🤪🤪
bonjour avis personnel .. je crois que tu vas être comme la + parts des amateurs de thailande .. déçu .( il y en a beaucoup qui vont bien voir pattaya .. pour LA thailance .. )
- mais bon .. c'est juste pour un peut mettre les choses au clair .. il n'y a pas comme c'est prétendu .. dans les bibles guides .. que 1 seul marche flottant .. il y en a plusieurs et pas besoin de faire 40 klm pour les voir .. il y en a en plein Bangkok .. et non touristique pour la bonne raison c'est que ils ne sont répertoriée que en thai .. exemple le marche flottant ( petit certes ) de wat sapan .. qui y va memme pas un touriste .. meme thuan qui pourtant passe devant tout les jours .🤪🤪
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Nous y sommes allée juste hier avec mon copain, a 2h aller et 2h de retour de Bangkok
Et ... Ultra déçu
Tu prends une barque (très chère) et au final même si c'est sympa de faire un tour de barque y en a plus près de Bangkok, plus petit mais moins cher et moins loin
On a été grave dec :/
On a été grave dec :/
Bonjour ,
Ci-dessous une decouverte de marché sympa sans touristes . Attention ce n'est pas à vrai dire un marché flottant , le canal etant de taille reduite . Le mieux est d'allé à Amphawa à une dizaine de kms de damdoen Saduak Cdlt Jean
Le poumon vert de Bangkok et marché flottant 21 mai 2011 à 5:10
Bonjour a tous , L an dernier lors de mon passage a Bangkok avant que les evenements n empirent j avais decouvert l ile de Ko Ket sur la Chao Phraya , ile verte , au calme , a parcourir a pied ou en velo de location et qui m avait seduit . De retour en France et en consultant une carte de Bangkok je m etais demande s il ne pouvait pas y avoir de lieux aussi seduisants et bingo , j etais tombe sur un site en anglais qui parlait du poumon vert de Bangkok et en disait fort bien . Alors recemment je suis alle voir de plus pres cet endroit. Il se situe dans un meandre du fleuve Chao Praya , formant une large boucle et quasiment une ile . Location : au sud de l avenue Sukhumvit , quartier de Klong toey et rive opposee de la Chao Phraya Vous n etes plus cote Bangkok mais dans la province de Samut Prakan . Le weekend se tient jusqu a 14 heures un marche le long de petits canaux = Marche flottant de Bang Nam Pheung . Parti de bonne heure j ai gagne la station de metro Victory monument ou j ai pris le bus 140 . En fait le site anglophone manquant de precision , je pensais que le bus m amenait au coeur du marche . Erreur de ma part . L assistante du bus et le chauffeur m ont fait descendre une fois passe le pont amenant sur l autre rive a un arret ou des taxis-meter etaient presents. Un chauffeur connaissant l endroit m y a amene. On passe sous un second pont a haubans , le Megabridge impressionnant avec ses immenses piliers L entree de cette quasi presqu ile constitue le quartier populaire de Phra Pradaeng , avec marche et commerces typiquement locaux , et presence de samlors = pousse-pousse conduits par des thais ages. Deja l impression d etre en province se fait sentir. En fait les bus 82 depuis sanam Luang et le 6 ont leur terminus dans ce quartier . Le marche flottant est bien plus loin et la vous empruntez des routes/rues en pleine vegetation et au milieu de vergers difficile de se reperer sans carte . Un grand parking accueille les vehicules des visiteurs , des assistants sont presents pour orienter les gens ou vous trouvez des transports taxis ou taxis motos , les gars sont en liaison par talky walky. Comme marche considere comme flottant on peut etre decu car les canaux sont limites ainsi que le nombre de barques. En fait plusieurs cuisinieres y preparent leurs plats et les gens sont assis sur des tables et sieges tres tres bas installes sur la rive. Le marche est surtout constitue de ces petites echoppes restaurants ainsi que d autres vendant des produits locaux comme bonbons, confiseries, gateaux paraissant delicieux, plats cuisines et aussi amulettes, parfums , savonnettes etc... On ne voit quasiment pas de stands de vetements, Les allees sont parcourues par des familles thaies en balade , toutes sereines , souriantes , surprises de vous croiser ici. Les vendeuses sont souriantes et amicales , on n est pas a KSR ! A proximite se trouve un Wat d ou s elevent les incantations des bonzes et ou se recueillent les fideles . Tout autour du marche quelques maisons d habitation sont noyees dans la vegetation , d ici de la partent des pistes etroites et cimentees dominant le terrain marecageux et s enfoncant au milieu de cocotiers, bananiers, et autres essences. Un vrai dedale a se perdre mais quelle oasis de tranquillite . J ai pris un taxi moto pour faire un tour jusqu au lieu dit Ban Krachao ou se trouvait un autre Wat > A proximite se trouve un embarcadere ou stationnaient deux autres mototaxis en attente de passagers en provenance de l autre rive du fleuve qu on traverse en pirogue longue queue. Ici aussi la vegetation est reine , par contre la rive opposee est peu ragoutante donnant vue sur des installations industrielles. Et puis le ciel s est serieusememt assombri et j ai regagne le marche. Il parait qu on peut louer des velos , en effet on croise des cyclotouristes du dimanche ou des habitants pedalant a leur rythme. Queques panneaux fleches avec un symbole de velo sont visibles sur les routes , donc il y a un circuit organise mais je n ai pas trouve d informations plus precises , les panneaux sont ecritsi a 99 pour cent en thai Autant dire que je n ai croise que 3 farangs dans le secteur J ai repris un taximeter qui m a ramene a sukhumvit Asoke sous un deluge tropical pour meme pas 150 baths tant la circulation etait fluide . j en termine , un peu las des touches du clavier thai et ses spaghettis affiches , pardon pour les fautes . cdlt Jean
Ci-dessous une decouverte de marché sympa sans touristes . Attention ce n'est pas à vrai dire un marché flottant , le canal etant de taille reduite . Le mieux est d'allé à Amphawa à une dizaine de kms de damdoen Saduak Cdlt Jean
Le poumon vert de Bangkok et marché flottant 21 mai 2011 à 5:10
Bonjour a tous , L an dernier lors de mon passage a Bangkok avant que les evenements n empirent j avais decouvert l ile de Ko Ket sur la Chao Phraya , ile verte , au calme , a parcourir a pied ou en velo de location et qui m avait seduit . De retour en France et en consultant une carte de Bangkok je m etais demande s il ne pouvait pas y avoir de lieux aussi seduisants et bingo , j etais tombe sur un site en anglais qui parlait du poumon vert de Bangkok et en disait fort bien . Alors recemment je suis alle voir de plus pres cet endroit. Il se situe dans un meandre du fleuve Chao Praya , formant une large boucle et quasiment une ile . Location : au sud de l avenue Sukhumvit , quartier de Klong toey et rive opposee de la Chao Phraya Vous n etes plus cote Bangkok mais dans la province de Samut Prakan . Le weekend se tient jusqu a 14 heures un marche le long de petits canaux = Marche flottant de Bang Nam Pheung . Parti de bonne heure j ai gagne la station de metro Victory monument ou j ai pris le bus 140 . En fait le site anglophone manquant de precision , je pensais que le bus m amenait au coeur du marche . Erreur de ma part . L assistante du bus et le chauffeur m ont fait descendre une fois passe le pont amenant sur l autre rive a un arret ou des taxis-meter etaient presents. Un chauffeur connaissant l endroit m y a amene. On passe sous un second pont a haubans , le Megabridge impressionnant avec ses immenses piliers L entree de cette quasi presqu ile constitue le quartier populaire de Phra Pradaeng , avec marche et commerces typiquement locaux , et presence de samlors = pousse-pousse conduits par des thais ages. Deja l impression d etre en province se fait sentir. En fait les bus 82 depuis sanam Luang et le 6 ont leur terminus dans ce quartier . Le marche flottant est bien plus loin et la vous empruntez des routes/rues en pleine vegetation et au milieu de vergers difficile de se reperer sans carte . Un grand parking accueille les vehicules des visiteurs , des assistants sont presents pour orienter les gens ou vous trouvez des transports taxis ou taxis motos , les gars sont en liaison par talky walky. Comme marche considere comme flottant on peut etre decu car les canaux sont limites ainsi que le nombre de barques. En fait plusieurs cuisinieres y preparent leurs plats et les gens sont assis sur des tables et sieges tres tres bas installes sur la rive. Le marche est surtout constitue de ces petites echoppes restaurants ainsi que d autres vendant des produits locaux comme bonbons, confiseries, gateaux paraissant delicieux, plats cuisines et aussi amulettes, parfums , savonnettes etc... On ne voit quasiment pas de stands de vetements, Les allees sont parcourues par des familles thaies en balade , toutes sereines , souriantes , surprises de vous croiser ici. Les vendeuses sont souriantes et amicales , on n est pas a KSR ! A proximite se trouve un Wat d ou s elevent les incantations des bonzes et ou se recueillent les fideles . Tout autour du marche quelques maisons d habitation sont noyees dans la vegetation , d ici de la partent des pistes etroites et cimentees dominant le terrain marecageux et s enfoncant au milieu de cocotiers, bananiers, et autres essences. Un vrai dedale a se perdre mais quelle oasis de tranquillite . J ai pris un taxi moto pour faire un tour jusqu au lieu dit Ban Krachao ou se trouvait un autre Wat > A proximite se trouve un embarcadere ou stationnaient deux autres mototaxis en attente de passagers en provenance de l autre rive du fleuve qu on traverse en pirogue longue queue. Ici aussi la vegetation est reine , par contre la rive opposee est peu ragoutante donnant vue sur des installations industrielles. Et puis le ciel s est serieusememt assombri et j ai regagne le marche. Il parait qu on peut louer des velos , en effet on croise des cyclotouristes du dimanche ou des habitants pedalant a leur rythme. Queques panneaux fleches avec un symbole de velo sont visibles sur les routes , donc il y a un circuit organise mais je n ai pas trouve d informations plus precises , les panneaux sont ecritsi a 99 pour cent en thai Autant dire que je n ai croise que 3 farangs dans le secteur J ai repris un taximeter qui m a ramene a sukhumvit Asoke sous un deluge tropical pour meme pas 150 baths tant la circulation etait fluide . j en termine , un peu las des touches du clavier thai et ses spaghettis affiches , pardon pour les fautes . cdlt Jean
Tous ces marchés flottants n'ouvrent que le week-end.
Alors que Damoen Saduak ouvre tous les jours, touristes obligent !
Bonjour à tous,
merci bcp pour vos retours !
justement je ne veux pas me retrouver dans un endroit cité comme LE lieu à visiter et être entourée de touristes limite dépassant les thai !
concernant la distance de bangkok, c sur mon chemin si je ne me trompe en allant à kanchanaburi, alors j'ai pensé en profiter pour faire ce fameux marché tôt le matin pas plus tard que 7h et pkoi pas enchainer non loin avec une visite du 2 ème marché près de la gare de Maeklong si mes renseignements sont bons au milieu duquel un train passe à ras des stands !
la 1ère fois que j'ai été au floating market je venais d'avoir 20 ans ( il y a 12 ans ) et c'était magnifique tout simplement, la seconde fois c'était en 2006, pas mal de touristes mais j'ai tout de même reussi à prendre de superbes photos !
là j'ésperais qu'aux aurores je retrouverais un peu d'authenticité !
dommage que certains ont été déçus, je commence à douter de mon choix serieusement !
Jean, Merci de nous le rappeler : j'irais faire un tour debut novembre : en attendant c'est Sulawesi (pays Toraja et plongée sur Bunaken 😉) : grand soleil !
Bien sur il faut éviter Damoen Saduak ! Ici sur VF on se passe le mot pour cet endroit la (nettement plus authentique 😛) : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4203887;search_string=ampawa%20marche%20flottant;
Bien sur il faut éviter Damoen Saduak ! Ici sur VF on se passe le mot pour cet endroit la (nettement plus authentique 😛) : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4203887;search_string=ampawa%20marche%20flottant;
"Dans vos phrases, n'utilisez qu'un sujet, un verbe, un complément d"objet direct ; Quand vous aurez besoin d'un adjectif, venez me trouver." (Georges Clemenceau)
Maeklong est à Samut Sonkhram, au sud de Damoen Saduak, à côté d'Amphawa ( marché flottant le week-end ).
Et voilà la fameuse ligne de train qui arrive en plein milieu du marché typiquement thai .
Bon souvenir egalement qui a précedé la balade avec Thuan auquel je pense fort en ces temps difficiles
ou les inondations frappent la Thailande .
cdlt Jean
Train Bangkok - Samut Sakhon
21 mai 2011 à 6:06

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Bonjour a tous ,
Le Lonely Planet consacre un petit article a cette modeste ligne ferroviaire dans son guide. Ayant excite ma curiosite , je me suis decide a la decouvrir. Je me suis rendu au terminus de la ligne Skytrain appele saphan Taksin . La, il faut descendre en tete du train cote droit en ayant le dos au fleuve. Tot le matin vous croiserez la foule des thais arrivant de banlieue mais attention meme en leur mettant le nom de la gare ecrit dans leur langue sous leur nez ils semblent etre paumes et vous orientent dans des directions totalement opposees. Alors une fois arrive au niveau de la rue suivez le trottoir de droite en ayant fleuve et terminus dans le dos Au premier grand carrefour tournez a droite , continuez jusqu a la passerelle enjambant l avenue , franchissez la , redescendez et a 30m se cache sur la gauche une petite rue , c est la que se situe le terminus pour samut sakhon , Le guichet vendant les billets affichait le prochain train a 7h40 , etonne de ne pas le voir et que l heure etait depassee l employe m a confirme que c etait le bon. En fait il est arrive 2 mns apres , etant en retard . Il decharge une foule de banlieusards et est reparti en sens inverse dans les 5/10 mns. Cout 10 baths pour une heure de trajet
C est un train de troisieme classe avec ventilateurs , sieges un peu durs mais wagons propres , non tagues , vitres non rayees . On n est pas chez les sauvages ! meme pour un pays emergent ! Parcours pas exceptionnel mais qui permet de decouvrir la proche banlieue , certains secteurs sont marecageux , d autres longent des vergers , de petits cours d eau avec maisons au bord . Attention a ne pas se pencher par la fenetre pour prendre une photo , vous risquez de vous prendre des branches d arbre ou pire un bout de tole ondulee dans le visage. Par endroits le wagon rase litteralement feuillages et toitures d habitation L arrivee a Samut est surprenante , le train s annonce en faisant retentir son avertisseur , et passe aux ras des etalages de vendeuses, celles ci inclinent leurs parasols en arriere , puis entre sous un hangar faisant egalement office de marche couvert un peu sombre . Tout le quartier est interessant avec l activite du marche et ses nombreuses poissonneries . A meme pas 400m se trouve le fleuve et une rive amenagee , d ou part un bac pour ceux souhaitant se rendre vers Samut Songkram.
cdlt Jean
cdlt Jean
Train Bangkok - Samut Sakhon
21 mai 2011 à 6:06

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Bonjour a tous ,Le Lonely Planet consacre un petit article a cette modeste ligne ferroviaire dans son guide. Ayant excite ma curiosite , je me suis decide a la decouvrir. Je me suis rendu au terminus de la ligne Skytrain appele saphan Taksin . La, il faut descendre en tete du train cote droit en ayant le dos au fleuve. Tot le matin vous croiserez la foule des thais arrivant de banlieue mais attention meme en leur mettant le nom de la gare ecrit dans leur langue sous leur nez ils semblent etre paumes et vous orientent dans des directions totalement opposees. Alors une fois arrive au niveau de la rue suivez le trottoir de droite en ayant fleuve et terminus dans le dos Au premier grand carrefour tournez a droite , continuez jusqu a la passerelle enjambant l avenue , franchissez la , redescendez et a 30m se cache sur la gauche une petite rue , c est la que se situe le terminus pour samut sakhon , Le guichet vendant les billets affichait le prochain train a 7h40 , etonne de ne pas le voir et que l heure etait depassee l employe m a confirme que c etait le bon. En fait il est arrive 2 mns apres , etant en retard . Il decharge une foule de banlieusards et est reparti en sens inverse dans les 5/10 mns. Cout 10 baths pour une heure de trajet
C est un train de troisieme classe avec ventilateurs , sieges un peu durs mais wagons propres , non tagues , vitres non rayees . On n est pas chez les sauvages ! meme pour un pays emergent ! Parcours pas exceptionnel mais qui permet de decouvrir la proche banlieue , certains secteurs sont marecageux , d autres longent des vergers , de petits cours d eau avec maisons au bord . Attention a ne pas se pencher par la fenetre pour prendre une photo , vous risquez de vous prendre des branches d arbre ou pire un bout de tole ondulee dans le visage. Par endroits le wagon rase litteralement feuillages et toitures d habitation L arrivee a Samut est surprenante , le train s annonce en faisant retentir son avertisseur , et passe aux ras des etalages de vendeuses, celles ci inclinent leurs parasols en arriere , puis entre sous un hangar faisant egalement office de marche couvert un peu sombre . Tout le quartier est interessant avec l activite du marche et ses nombreuses poissonneries . A meme pas 400m se trouve le fleuve et une rive amenagee , d ou part un bac pour ceux souhaitant se rendre vers Samut Songkram.
cdlt Jean
Attention , j ai oublié de rectifier : le nom de l'arret du metro aerien n'est pas Saphan Taksin mais se situe sur la rive opposée coté Thonburi . J ai oublié son nom .
Ampawa on te dit ! tu croiseras pas 10 touristes ! 😛
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😊😊😊C bien pour ça que je dis je m'obstine, mais j'arrête ! C noté merci bcp ! Bon je passe à autre chose, kanchanaburi je serais de passage avant de pousser jusqu'au gansesha park de notre ami François, je pense y passer une nuit pour aller de bonne heure le lendemain à Erawan waterfalls, mais je serais obligée de revenir sur kanchanaburi pour aller à ganesha park par train jusqu'à namtok sauf que parait-il il n'y a que 2 trains 6h et 10h alors ça m'oblige à repasser une nuit à kanchanaburi pour partir le lendemain, à moins que j'ai un autre moyen sans le savoir
bonjour thuan,
ma requête n'a pas de rapport avec les sujet précédent!
Etant donné que je vois que vous habitez en thailande, je souhaiterai que vous me donniez des nouvelles de la situation actuelle. En effet, nous arrivons avec mon mari et mes enfants à bangkok la semaine prochaine depuis paris, et les inondations nous inquiète... Pourriez vous nous faire un point vu que sur le net on ne trouve pas grand chose. Nous devons allez ensuite sur chiang mai en train et redescendre sur ko chang. Merci des infos que vous pourrez nous apporter.
"Fais le bien et jette le dans une rivière ; un jour, il te sera rendu dans le désert"
Sincèrement, avec tous ce que tu as lu, tu es vraiment obstinée 😉
Je te donne mon avis, (qui ne n'engage que moi) : Vraiment inutile de perdre du temps dans ton parcours pour aller sur "ce marché"
Bangkok regorge de petits coins magnifiques, sans obligatoirement marcher sur l'eau, 😇
Prendre n'importe quels moyens de transports, s'arrêter au hasard, à droite ou à gauche, marcher un peu, et ça sera une super découverte, qui te prendra beaucoup moins de temps 😉😉
Je te donne mon avis, (qui ne n'engage que moi) : Vraiment inutile de perdre du temps dans ton parcours pour aller sur "ce marché"
Bangkok regorge de petits coins magnifiques, sans obligatoirement marcher sur l'eau, 😇
Prendre n'importe quels moyens de transports, s'arrêter au hasard, à droite ou à gauche, marcher un peu, et ça sera une super découverte, qui te prendra beaucoup moins de temps 😉😉
Apres tout ça je ne peux que vous rejoindre et faire confiance à ceux qui ont testé ces dernières années, merci à tous ! Quant à kanchanaburi un hôtel originale en particulier à le recommander pas loin des activités et du centre, y a t- il un marché de nuit ( ou de jour ) que me conseillez vous dans cette région pour une journée ou deux ?
je te confirme que le marché flottant de damnoen saduak n'est pas très intéressant, nous l'avons visité à 7h du matin pour avoir moins de touristes, mais du coup il est peu animé tant par les touristes que par les vendeurs sur les bateaux; les stands de vente (chapeau thailandais, tissu...)défilent et commencent tout juste à s'ouvrir.Quelques bateaux passent : une dame qui vend du café très mauvais passé dans une chaussette et servi dans une tasse rincée dans le canal 😏, un joli bateau rempli de fruits, un autre bien fleuri; une dame vend des petites crêpes thailandaises ; nous avons fait une heure et demie de promenade agréable mais sans plus.En fait nous avons beaucoup plus aimé le marché sur les rails de la ligne mahachai que nous avons rejoint ensuite : depuis damnoen, on prend le bus 467 jusqu'à l'arrêt de la gare de maeklong; de l'arrêt de bus, on remonte les rails en traversant le fameux marché qui se situe littéralement sur les rails !là, nous avons pris le train jusqu'à Bangkok (avant damnoen, nous venions de kanchanaburi, je pourrai t'expliquer le trajet en bus si cela t'intéresse, à faire en sens inverse)🙂
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Voici un petit coin qui m'avait bien plu en allant vers la frontiere birmane
cdlt
Jean
15 mai 2009 à 15:28
Bonjour a tous, Ce message s adresse surtout a ceux amoureux de nature et de tranquillite, avec un reste d authenticite . La Thailande revele encore quelques petits coins adorables a l ecart des hordes touristiques . Description du periple effectue : taxi matinal de Sukhumvit/Asoke jusqu a gare routierede Sai tai Mai 150 baths Depart pour Kanchanaburi par le bus de 7h30 .cout 99b aths . le taxi m a depose sur un parking, il a fallu que je cherche les guichets au premier etage d un batiment puis sprint pour localiser le quai 23 d ou partait le bus. deux bonnes heures de route et ensuite cyclopousse pour aller a la Guest house de Kanchanaburi =40 baths situee a 2 kms . Tres bonne adresse indiquee par Chriscool sur son site . La Noble Night guesthouse s avere en effet tres tres bien . 750 baths pour chambre AC avec petit dej, chambre et sdb impeccables et beau carrelage noir marbre. Petit jardin tropical et unepetite piscine avec terrasse pour bronzer donnant sur la riviere mais vue limitee. Les repas peuvent etre pris au restaurant agencede voyages KTC attenant, on y mange bien et pour pas cher. Sinon pas mal d autres possibilites de logement dans cette rue . Kancha s adresse aux touristes etrangers et thais. Cafes internet a proximite et loueuse de velos/motocyclettes a meme pas 100m 50 baths le velo a la journee. Bonne ballade a faire de l autre cote de la riviere : prendre le pont moderne juste avant celui de la riviere kwai, en bas tourner a droite et aller vers le fameux pont . Au panneau indiquant celui ci a 500m a droite, partir par la petite route cote opposee : campagne de cultures, marecages, roseaux, mares avec nenuphars, cocotiers et quasi aucune circulation . Sinon au sud du Jeath Museum prendre le petit bac qui fait la navette avec l espece d ile situee en face. Pour les fetards quelques bars sont ouverts le soir dans la meme rue mais les soirees sont bien calmes. Minivan de la gare routiere de Kanchanaburi pour Sangkhlaburi= 175 baths .depart 7h40 Compter 3 heures de route . ( A laller 2 controles mais lors du trajet retour 6 checkpoints police + armee qui controlent les passagers birmans, mais se fichent des touristes apparemment .) La route est vraiment jolie et en parfait etat, de temps a autre surgissent des Resorts de part et d autre. Region de collines et hauts pitons couverts de foret . De la vegetation partout. Arret de 10 mns a Thon Pa Phum ( desole, j ai oublie l orthographe exacte) gros village niche au fond d une vallee dominee par des falaises couvertes de jungle. Arrive a Sangklaburi, il m a fallu denicher les motos taxis au marche situe a cote de la gare routiere car personne n avait l air de se precipiter vers le client. Les possibilites de logement ne sont pas enormes et a l ecart du centre ville. On n a pas le sentiment d etre vraiment dans une ville tellement la vegetation est presente partout et les maisons a l ecart des unes et des autres. Compter 2 a 3 kms pour se rendre dans le coin offrant les principales possibilites pour se loger . J ai dormi au Phornpalin hotel, belle chambre avec balcon et vue sur le lac pour 1000 baths avec petit dej . Leur restaurant possede une terrasse couverte avec vue splendide sur le petit lac et la rive opposee . On y mange en contemplant la jolie vue, meilleure que depuis les chambres . Mais beaucoup de plats proposes sont epices . Sur le lac se trouvent des maisons flottantes reposant sur radeaux de bambous et sur les pentes de la rive opposee reliee par une passerelle en bois ( il y a aussi un pont moderne pour les vehicules) de modestes paillottes au toit de palme se melent avec maisons thaies traditionnelles en bois . Ici vivent ethnies Mons et Karens refugiees de Birmanie.Vous croiserez aussi des musulmans, une petite mosquee se trouve pres du centre ville. Vous pouvez circuler dans ce coin nomme le villlage Mon, personne ne vous harcelera . Surprenant de croiser parfois des visages aux traits hindous A la tombee du jour, des fumees s elevent des paillottes et les dernieres barques a moteur rentrent au bercail. Le matin, reveil matinal par les croassements des batraciens . Sur la rive opposee regne encore le silence trouble parfois par une cloche qui sonne, quelques coups de marteau etouffes, le chant d un coq, un appel a la priere .Le village s eveille lentement . Par temps ensoleille les eaux prennent une couleur bleutee et font ressortir le vert du rivage et des collines, ainsi que la terre couleur ocre des pentes Probleme il pleut au quotidien et quand une averse arrive elle consequente. Alors lecture sur le balcon en maillot de bain en contemplant l averse tropicale qui s abat sur le lac. Il fait bon parcourir a pied les rues du village, les ecoliers arborent l uniforme traditionnel, ici chemisette ou corsage rouge ou orange et short et jupe noirs .Mais beaucoup se rendent au lycee egalement en sarongs ou longues tuniques style djellaba, rouge sang, jaune dore, vert emeraude avec broderies dorees. Voila j en termine la, vraiment je n ai pas regrette d aller faire un saut dans cette jolie region et je vous encourage vivement a la visiter cdlt jean
De l'arret des minibus ou de la place des bus à Sangklaburi ( environ 100m entre les deux ) les taxis motos prennent une rue ( petite route) rectiligne , le lac est à droite mais caché par la vegetation et les maisons. Si mes souvenirs sont exacts mais je peux me tromper avec les noms : Plus loin sur la droite une petite route à droite descend vers la rive et l'acces au pont en bois . C'est là que se niche la Burmese Inn , mais ici la vue sur le lac est limitée. On revient sur la premiere route , plus loin à droite se trouve P-GuestHouse dominant la rive , GH qui a l air pas mal et offre une belle vue . ensuite la route tourne à gauche , arrive sur une intersection . Prendre à droite sur 200 m puis prendre la route qui se termine à l'entree de mon hotel 200 m plus loin . Impossible de retrouver son nom . En tout cas ce n'est pas le Phornphalin hotel carcelui-ci est situé dans un autre secteur de la bourgade pres d'un camp militaire et ce camp est proche d'un pont tout neuf en beton , il faut retourner vers la gare routiere . Le coin avant l'arrivée à mon hotel est un cul de sac , et il faut passer un gué à pied pres des les maisons flottantes pour aller sur la colline voisine . j ai recherché dans mes vieux Lonely Planet et un autre guide . Je ne vois pas le nom . Je me demande si je ne l ai pas trouvé sur le site de Chriscool . Sinon Il y a d'autres GH à Sangklaburi mais leur nombre est limité.
15 mai 2009 à 15:28
Bonjour a tous, Ce message s adresse surtout a ceux amoureux de nature et de tranquillite, avec un reste d authenticite . La Thailande revele encore quelques petits coins adorables a l ecart des hordes touristiques . Description du periple effectue : taxi matinal de Sukhumvit/Asoke jusqu a gare routierede Sai tai Mai 150 baths Depart pour Kanchanaburi par le bus de 7h30 .cout 99b aths . le taxi m a depose sur un parking, il a fallu que je cherche les guichets au premier etage d un batiment puis sprint pour localiser le quai 23 d ou partait le bus. deux bonnes heures de route et ensuite cyclopousse pour aller a la Guest house de Kanchanaburi =40 baths situee a 2 kms . Tres bonne adresse indiquee par Chriscool sur son site . La Noble Night guesthouse s avere en effet tres tres bien . 750 baths pour chambre AC avec petit dej, chambre et sdb impeccables et beau carrelage noir marbre. Petit jardin tropical et unepetite piscine avec terrasse pour bronzer donnant sur la riviere mais vue limitee. Les repas peuvent etre pris au restaurant agencede voyages KTC attenant, on y mange bien et pour pas cher. Sinon pas mal d autres possibilites de logement dans cette rue . Kancha s adresse aux touristes etrangers et thais. Cafes internet a proximite et loueuse de velos/motocyclettes a meme pas 100m 50 baths le velo a la journee. Bonne ballade a faire de l autre cote de la riviere : prendre le pont moderne juste avant celui de la riviere kwai, en bas tourner a droite et aller vers le fameux pont . Au panneau indiquant celui ci a 500m a droite, partir par la petite route cote opposee : campagne de cultures, marecages, roseaux, mares avec nenuphars, cocotiers et quasi aucune circulation . Sinon au sud du Jeath Museum prendre le petit bac qui fait la navette avec l espece d ile situee en face. Pour les fetards quelques bars sont ouverts le soir dans la meme rue mais les soirees sont bien calmes. Minivan de la gare routiere de Kanchanaburi pour Sangkhlaburi= 175 baths .depart 7h40 Compter 3 heures de route . ( A laller 2 controles mais lors du trajet retour 6 checkpoints police + armee qui controlent les passagers birmans, mais se fichent des touristes apparemment .) La route est vraiment jolie et en parfait etat, de temps a autre surgissent des Resorts de part et d autre. Region de collines et hauts pitons couverts de foret . De la vegetation partout. Arret de 10 mns a Thon Pa Phum ( desole, j ai oublie l orthographe exacte) gros village niche au fond d une vallee dominee par des falaises couvertes de jungle. Arrive a Sangklaburi, il m a fallu denicher les motos taxis au marche situe a cote de la gare routiere car personne n avait l air de se precipiter vers le client. Les possibilites de logement ne sont pas enormes et a l ecart du centre ville. 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Il fait bon parcourir a pied les rues du village, les ecoliers arborent l uniforme traditionnel, ici chemisette ou corsage rouge ou orange et short et jupe noirs .Mais beaucoup se rendent au lycee egalement en sarongs ou longues tuniques style djellaba, rouge sang, jaune dore, vert emeraude avec broderies dorees. Voila j en termine la, vraiment je n ai pas regrette d aller faire un saut dans cette jolie region et je vous encourage vivement a la visiter cdlt jean
De l'arret des minibus ou de la place des bus à Sangklaburi ( environ 100m entre les deux ) les taxis motos prennent une rue ( petite route) rectiligne , le lac est à droite mais caché par la vegetation et les maisons. Si mes souvenirs sont exacts mais je peux me tromper avec les noms : Plus loin sur la droite une petite route à droite descend vers la rive et l'acces au pont en bois . C'est là que se niche la Burmese Inn , mais ici la vue sur le lac est limitée. On revient sur la premiere route , plus loin à droite se trouve P-GuestHouse dominant la rive , GH qui a l air pas mal et offre une belle vue . ensuite la route tourne à gauche , arrive sur une intersection . Prendre à droite sur 200 m puis prendre la route qui se termine à l'entree de mon hotel 200 m plus loin . Impossible de retrouver son nom . En tout cas ce n'est pas le Phornphalin hotel carcelui-ci est situé dans un autre secteur de la bourgade pres d'un camp militaire et ce camp est proche d'un pont tout neuf en beton , il faut retourner vers la gare routiere . Le coin avant l'arrivée à mon hotel est un cul de sac , et il faut passer un gué à pied pres des les maisons flottantes pour aller sur la colline voisine . j ai recherché dans mes vieux Lonely Planet et un autre guide . Je ne vois pas le nom . Je me demande si je ne l ai pas trouvé sur le site de Chriscool . Sinon Il y a d'autres GH à Sangklaburi mais leur nombre est limité.
+ 1 ma chère Pirandy tu aussi claire que l'eau qui sort des montagnes !
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Situation actuelle et a venir a Bangkok = http://thailande-fr.com/actu/13726-alerte-aux-inondations-a-bangkok
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totalement d'accord, se ballader, flâner le nez en l'air, se laisser guider par son instinct et le hasard.. la meilleure façon de découvrir le VRAI BK .. et c'est magnifique.
Queenmila, je técris un extrait de mon Cr (janvier 2008):
"A la gare de Sangklaburi, nous trouvons facilement le bus vers kanchanaburi (bus 8203).Nous arrivons à la gare des bus et...après un petit passage à la boulangerie SRIFA 🙂, nous reprenons le bus vers Bang Pae (461)puis le bus 78 (ou bien le minibus 1733)vers la ville de damnoen saduak, où nous logeons à l'hôtel nok nok pour 300baths, c'est un grand hôtel tranquille à l'aspect lugubre, genre hôpital, avec de longs couloirs et de grandes chambres. Nous réservons à l'accueil un bateau pour le lendemain (450baths)pour visiter le marché flottant de Damnoen saduak (en fait l'embarcadère est à proximité, un peu caché). Un petit tour à proximité et en ville le long d'une grande avenue coupée en deux et difficile à traverser autrement qu'en empruntant les passerelles situées aux extrémités.Un bon flan thailandais , mais guère de restaurants alléchants, à part quelques stands sur les trottoirs. Nous dégusterons cependant une délicieuse crêpe thailandaise et finirons notre repas sur un banc à proximité du 7 eleven toujours bien utile."
"A la gare de Sangklaburi, nous trouvons facilement le bus vers kanchanaburi (bus 8203).Nous arrivons à la gare des bus et...après un petit passage à la boulangerie SRIFA 🙂, nous reprenons le bus vers Bang Pae (461)puis le bus 78 (ou bien le minibus 1733)vers la ville de damnoen saduak, où nous logeons à l'hôtel nok nok pour 300baths, c'est un grand hôtel tranquille à l'aspect lugubre, genre hôpital, avec de longs couloirs et de grandes chambres. Nous réservons à l'accueil un bateau pour le lendemain (450baths)pour visiter le marché flottant de Damnoen saduak (en fait l'embarcadère est à proximité, un peu caché). Un petit tour à proximité et en ville le long d'une grande avenue coupée en deux et difficile à traverser autrement qu'en empruntant les passerelles situées aux extrémités.Un bon flan thailandais , mais guère de restaurants alléchants, à part quelques stands sur les trottoirs. Nous dégusterons cependant une délicieuse crêpe thailandaise et finirons notre repas sur un banc à proximité du 7 eleven toujours bien utile."
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kanchanaburi est une ville très étalée en longueur! il faut marcher !;bien sûr il faut aller voir le train passer sur le pont (une terrasse de café offre un agréable point de vue sur lepont) il y a deux temples chinois voisins MAGNIFIQUES situés à 14km au sud de la ville, perchés sur la colline, tu peux y aller en sangthaew privé: le wat tham seua et wat tham khao noi.
Nous étions au Ploy Gh.(1200 baths pour deux nuits, chambre simple mais confortable au rc donnant directement sur un atrium)
Nous avons fait un bon dîner à l'apple gh(ils doivent faire hôtel aussi, je crois qu'il était plein).
Il y a un petit marché aux abords du pont.
Nous avons aussi été voir les chutes d'erawan !! et "éléphanter"(comment on dit ?) et "baigner"les éléphants de FC.
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Bonsoir, j'ai essayé de lire tous les posts concernant les marchés...mais j'aurais besoin de quelques renseignements supplémentaires:nous aimerions aller à Ampawa et au marché de Maeklong.Pensez- vous que c'est possible de faire les 2 le même jour par nos propres moyens(si on y va par le train, j'ai noté que le trajet était de 2 h...et ensuite comment rallier le 2ème marché?en tuk-tuk?).vaut-il mieux prendre un taxi pour la journée qui nous amènera à l'un puis à l'autre, et nous attendra???(prix elevé??).
Nous serons pour quelques jours à BKK, ('où l'idée d'une excursion à la journée)...mais autre alternative:dormir sur place, à Ampawa?ce qui sous-entend un taxi pour l'aller et un autre pour le retour...cela vaut-il le coup?
Je crois avoir vu aussi que des bus partaient de Victory pour Ampawa...mais on ne trouve pas grand chose concernant ce fameux marché traversé par le train.
Merci d'avance pour l'aide que vous pourrez m'apporter.
Ghislaine
emoran
...mais on ne trouve pas grand chose concernant ce fameux marché traversé par le train.
Pourtant tu as ce post récent et illustré sur Maeklong Station.... 😇 :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4602384
Pourtant tu as ce post récent et illustré sur Maeklong Station.... 😇 :
http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4602384
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Merci, récit super intéressant:c'est ce que nous voulons faire, mais ma question est:en faisant ce trajet en train, est-ce jouable de faire aussi un tour à Ampawa(comment rejoindre Ampawa depuis Maeklong market?), et revenir en bus (sur victory station) ?ou bien est-ce incompatible de faire les 2 la même journée, sachant que le marché d'Ampawa ne doit guère commencer avant 15 ou 16h(?).
Nous aurons le temps, peu importe si ça prend la journée entière.
Ghislaine
emoran
Ampawa commence dès 13h, exclusivement le week end : pour y aller vous ferez comme beaucoup (puisque l'information n'est pas précisée) avec le système "débrouille" en mettant la main sur un taxi ou le cas échéant option : sourire + signes + bus pour demander sur place et y arriver.
Pour le retour, dans la mesure ou des bus emmènent des personnes depuis Victory Monument ils doivent en ramener car ce serait dommage de revenir à vide... 😇
Pour le retour, dans la mesure ou des bus emmènent des personnes depuis Victory Monument ils doivent en ramener car ce serait dommage de revenir à vide... 😇
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Merci.On se débrouillera comme ça.Vraiment envie de voir ces 2 marchés.(encore plus après avoir vu vos photos)
ghislaine
emoran
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For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.








