Bonjour,
Je souhaite faire le tour de la Vanoise sur 5 jours, avec ma fille. C'est une première pour nous, la rando montagne en été.
Dans mon circuit, j'aurais souhaiter passer par la Valette mais cela ne se met pas si facilement.
Mes impératifs sont les suivants:
- 5 jours max de marche, avec plus petite journée si possible le jour 5 (pour reprendre déjà la route vers Bruxelles en voiture pour quelques heures)
- Des étapes de 6h maximum car souci de hanche qui demande qu'on la respecte :)
- Laisser la voiture à un endroit "safe"
J'avais imaginé cette version mais qui ne permet pas de passer par la Valette:
J1 : Pralognan - Refuge du col de la Vanoise
J2 : Refuge du col - Arpont
J3: (Tôt le lac sans sac) puis Arpont - la Dent Parrachée
J4: La Dent Parachée - col d'Aussois - refuge de Peclet Polset (car Refuge Roc de la Pêche peu tentant)
J5: Peclet Polset - Pralognan
ou alors cette version avec passage par La Valette:
J1 : Pralognan - Refuge du col de la Vanoise
J2 : Refuge du col - Arpont
J3: (Tôt le lac sans sac) puis Arpont - la Dent Parachée
J4: La Dent Parachée - col d'Aussois - La Valette (pas trop long ? possible ? bien balisé?)
J5: La Valette - Pralognan
Merci beaucoup pour votre avis, vos conseils et tous ceux que vous avez déjà donné sur ce site qui m'ont bien aidé à découvrir cette région !
Les deux parcours que tu donnes semblent pas mal. Dans le 2ieme comme tu t'en doutes, le 4ieme jour est assez costaud. Le col d'aussois, ça monte raide et tu passes à 3000m d'altitude, c'est donc assez éprouvant. Pour une 1ere expérience, descendre puis remonter vers le refuge de la valette, ça risque de faire un peu beaucoup.
Comme tu dis que c'est ta 1ere experience de randonnée et que tu as des soucis de hanche, il me semble important que tu te réserves des échappatoires avec la possibilité d'abandonner en cours de route. Certes ça n'est pas très réjouissant comme perspective mais mieux vaut l'anticiper plutôt que de se retrouver dans une grosse galère. D'une manière générale, ce parcours s'y prête plutôt bien.
A la limite, si tu en as envie avec ta fille, tu peux peut etre envisager de passer la dernière nuit au refuge de la valette. Au pire si vous etes trop fatiguées, dormir au refuge du roc de la peche (s'il reste de la place) ou bien trainer un peu votre misère jusqu'au repoju/vous faire prendre en stop jusqu'à pralognan.
Merci pour l'info :)
Quel serait la durée de marche du jour 4 à peu près?
Le souci…c'est aussi la place au refuge de La Valette. C'est gênant de le réserver et de réaliser le jour même que ce ne sera pas possible …
Côté voiture, as tu un endroit particulier à conseille pour la laisser 5 jours ?
Quel serait la durée de marche du jour 4 à peu près?
.. aucune idée 🙂.
Pour argumenter sur le fait que dans le cas du 2ieme parcours l'étape me semble longue, je me base sur mon expérience du passage du col d'aussois et un ressenti mis au regard de ce que tu as écrit dans ton 1er message.
D'autres membres du forum devraient pouvoir te donner des indications. Sinon, en cherchant un peu sur le net, tu devrais pouvoir trouver des topos de parcours +/- équivalents pour te donner une idée.
Le souci…c'est aussi la place au refuge de La Valette. C'est gênant de le réserver et de réaliser le jour même que ce ne sera pas possible …
C'est gênant pour vous comme pour les gardiens du refuge mais il n'y a pas mort d'homme. Ca vous ferait une motivation supplémentaire pour aller jusqu'au refuge de la Valette. Et si c'est vraiment trop difficile, appelez les gardiens du refuge, excusez vous et ça fera peut être de la place pour des randonneurs n'ayant pas réservé.
Côté voiture, as tu un endroit particulier à conseille pour la laisser 5 jours ?
Pralognan est un village tranquille et il y'a pas mal de place de parking (près de la piscine par exemple). Aucun souci de ce coté là.
les sentiers sont assez bien balisés dans la Vanoise.
Par contre on a un été pourri en France désolé d'être un peu rabat-joie mais c'est pas une bonne période pour visiter la Vanoise , il y a souvent des orages et des pluies.
Petite parenthèse, il y a eu une coulée de boue à Modane endommageant de nombreux cars de transports
Hier j'étais entre le Plan Sec et le Refuge de l'Arpont j'ai eu un moment de frayeur avec un orage qui est arrivé brusquement vers 18heures alors que quelques instants avant il faisait beau.
Avec des gros éclairs dans le ciel.
Sans compter que s'il a plu les sentiers peuvent être parfois glissants..
Donc oui partir plus tôt le matin quand le ciel est dégagé.
Si le relief est bouché , il vaut mieux faire preuve de prudence et ne pas trop s'engager en haute-montagne car je ne sais pas si tu connais ce massif mais cela demeure de la haute montagne.
Aux refuges bien se renseigner sur la météo car en ce moment beaucoup d'orages sur les Alpes...
J'espère que août sera meilleur que juillet car juillet a été vraiment un mauvais mois.
Une chose importante aussi : emporter vraiment des vêtements chauds...un bonnet et gants ne sont pas superflus car à 2000m d'altitude et + il fait très frais voire froid la nuit donc à 3000...
à moins qu'avec des journées chaudes d'août ça se réchauffe.
Ce matin il m'a semblé voir des pentes légérement couvertes d'une pellicule de neige...
Bonsoir Mathews
Merci pour toutes ces invitations à la prudence.
C'est vrai que je n'ai aucune expérience de la montagne (à part celle de l'adorer en hiver comme skieuse :))
je ne m'attendais pas trop à rencontrer ce genre de scénarios…
Est-ce que ce serait plus sage de fonctionner ainsi de manière à éviter le Col d'Aussois (plus délicat?)
J1 : Pralognon - Vanoise
Jour 2: Vanoise - Arpont
Jour 3: Arpont - Fourache
Jour 4: Fourache - Orgère
Jour 5 : Orgère - Pralognan (en prenant éventuellement la navette au Prioux si nécessaire pour ne pas faire trop long..)
je ne m'attendais pas trop à rencontrer ce genre de scénarios…
bonsoir tout peut très bien se passer tout dépend de la météo
Pour ce qui est du Col d'Aussois je ne peux pas dire je ne suis pas passé par là.
Mais par beau temps il n'ya pas de problèmes.
Pour ce qui est de la forme physique j'habite dans la région et j'essaie d'aller souvent en montagne pour être aguerri à la montagne.
Donc moi je connais ma forme physique pour celles des membres de ce forum je ne peux pas dire...
Est-ce que ce serait plus sage de fonctionner ainsi de manière à éviter le Col d'Aussois (plus délicat?)
Catherine
il ne devrait pas y avoir de problèmes simplement encore une fois pour passer un col élevé le faire en partant le matin et par bonne météo
Le tronçon Arpont Fourache ORgère est relativement facile puisqu'il suit grosso modo le tracé de la Maurienne
Ce n'est pas parce que j'ai écrit que le col d'aussois était difficile qu'il faut "psychoter" dessus 😉. Il faut juste intégrer cette difficulté dans la construction de l'étape qui inclus son franchissement.
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