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Une semaine aux États-Unis puis 6 mois au Mexique: ESTA dépassé?
by Mariacam
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, je vous explique ma situation :
Apres avoir demandé l'ESTA avec succès , je suis arrivée à LA le 31 decembre 2014 .
Le 3 Janvier 2015 , je suis partie au Mexique par la frontière terrestre . A la frontière , j'ai demandé à ce que ma date de sortie soit bien enregistrée , les agents m'ont confirmé mais ils n'avaient pas l'air bien informés . En arrivant au Mexique j'ai obtenu mon visa FMM , m'autorisant à un sejour de 180 jours .
Depuis, je suis au Mexique . Le FMM s'expire dans un mois , mais j'ai une offre d'emploi . Je dois donc faire les démarches hors du Mexique pour le visa de travail . Techniquement je pourrais le faire aux États Unis . Seulement j'ai un doute : les États Unis savent -ils que je suis depuis 5 mois au Mexique ? Est ce un problème ? Vont -ils considérer que j'ai dépassé les 3 mois de l'ESTA et donc me refuser un sejour chez eux , même si ce ne sont que quelques jours pour aller à l'ambassade mexicaine ?
Je suis totalement perdue , car je n'ai appris que maintenant qu'un sejour au Canada ou au Mexique n'était pas considéré comme une sortie , et donc que de toute façon le sejour ne devait pas dépasser les 3 mois ..
Quelles seraient mes autres options ? Aller faire mon visa de travail mexicain à Cuba ? Pourrais je retourner aux États Unis un jour ?
Merci pour votre aide
Merci pour votre aide
La réglementation semble très claire a ce sujet:
Trips to Canada, Mexico, or nearby Islands. Visa Waiver Program: If you are admitted to the United States under the VWP, you may take a short trip to Canada, Mexico, or a nearby island and generally be readmitted to the United States under the VWP for the remainder of the original 90 days granted upon your initial arrival in the United States. Therefore, the length of time of your total stay, including the short trip, must be 90 days or less.
.et Cuba est sûrement considéré comme un ''nearby island''
Trips to Canada, Mexico, or nearby Islands. Visa Waiver Program: If you are admitted to the United States under the VWP, you may take a short trip to Canada, Mexico, or a nearby island and generally be readmitted to the United States under the VWP for the remainder of the original 90 days granted upon your initial arrival in the United States. Therefore, the length of time of your total stay, including the short trip, must be 90 days or less.
.et Cuba est sûrement considéré comme un ''nearby island''
La vie est trop belle pour être petite.
j'ai une offre d'emploi . Je dois donc faire les démarches hors du Mexique
Pourquoi ? 😮
Pourquoi ? 😮
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Bonsoir Mariacam,
Votre Esta est valide jusqu’à quand? Sinon je vous conseille de voir un peu ici: https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/application.html?execution=e1s1 cela devrait vous donner une idée ou vous en êtes, sinon allez dnas un consulat des USA, vous êtes ou au Mx.? Vous pouvez aussi aller au Guate pour vos papiers. Je serais vous je ne m’inquiéterais pas trop, cela m'étonnerais que vous ayez un problème pour retourner aux USA.
A très bientôt Pierre Mon blog : EscaleCancun
Merci PierreCancun ! La période de 90 jours de mon ESTA etait jusqu'au 30 Mars .. Je n'arrive pas a trouver de réponse sur le site , mais je vais appeler l'US Customs aujourd'hui. Je suis à Los Cabos , et malheureusement sur le site du consulat américain de Los Cabos, il est précisé qu'ils ne fournissent aucun renseignement en matière de visas .. J'espère qu'au téléphone j'aurai plus de renseignements .
C'est une bonne idée d'aller au Guatemala , peut être qu'une fois que j'aurai la résidence mexicaine ca sera plus simple de régler mon problème avec les US qui sait ...
Merci encore !!
Votre Esta est valide jusqu’à quand? Sinon je vous conseille de voir un peu ici: https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/application.html?execution=e1s1 cela devrait vous donner une idée ou vous en êtes, sinon allez dnas un consulat des USA, vous êtes ou au Mx.? Vous pouvez aussi aller au Guate pour vos papiers. Je serais vous je ne m’inquiéterais pas trop, cela m'étonnerais que vous ayez un problème pour retourner aux USA.
A très bientôt Pierre Mon blog : EscaleCancun
Merci PierreCancun ! La période de 90 jours de mon ESTA etait jusqu'au 30 Mars .. Je n'arrive pas a trouver de réponse sur le site , mais je vais appeler l'US Customs aujourd'hui. Je suis à Los Cabos , et malheureusement sur le site du consulat américain de Los Cabos, il est précisé qu'ils ne fournissent aucun renseignement en matière de visas .. J'espère qu'au téléphone j'aurai plus de renseignements .
C'est une bonne idée d'aller au Guatemala , peut être qu'une fois que j'aurai la résidence mexicaine ca sera plus simple de régler mon problème avec les US qui sait ...
Merci encore !!
Re,
Pardon j'ai répondu peut être un peu vite et du coup ma réponse ne répond pas vraiment à vos interrogations.
Alors comme je comprends votre situation :
Pour moi, l'ESTA ce n'est qu'une autorisation préalable de principe sur l'entrée possible aux Etats-Unis. La vraie autorisation de séjour valable 3 mois étant obtenu en arrivant à la douane (enfin le tampon dans le passeport quoi)
Donc dans votre situation, pour moi toujours, il me semble que comme vous êtes resté éloignées des Etats-Unis plus de 3 mois, ce sera considéré comme un nouveau séjour. Et donc pour ce nouveau séjour, pas besoin de demander une nouvelle ESTA puisque la votre est encore valable (pendant 1 an).
Voilà
Hello,
Donc dans votre situation, pour moi toujours, il me semble que comme vous êtes resté éloignées des Etats-Unis plus de 3 mois, ce sera considéré comme un nouveau séjour. Et donc pour ce nouveau séjour, pas besoin de demander une nouvelle ESTA puisque la votre est encore valable (pendant 1 an). Voilà
Non, la question n'est pas de savoir si Mariacam doit ou non demander un nouvel ESTA, c'est plus compliqué ; comme elle l'explique dans son premier message, elle ne sait pas si sa sortie des USA a bel et bien été notée par l'agent mexicain à la frontière et c'est ce qui pause soucis dans le cas présent. Car si ce n'est pas le cas, étant donné qu'un séjour au Mexique ne remet pas le compteur à zéro, en retournant aux USA, elle risque de se faire refouler et d'avoir des soucis pour avoir dépassé les 90 jours autorisés par l'ESTA (overstay).
Mariacam, il faudrait savoir où tu en es et te rapprocher des services compétents pour savoir si ta sortie des USA a bien été prise en compte. Les conseils de PierreCancun plus haut semblent bons.
Donc dans votre situation, pour moi toujours, il me semble que comme vous êtes resté éloignées des Etats-Unis plus de 3 mois, ce sera considéré comme un nouveau séjour. Et donc pour ce nouveau séjour, pas besoin de demander une nouvelle ESTA puisque la votre est encore valable (pendant 1 an). Voilà
Non, la question n'est pas de savoir si Mariacam doit ou non demander un nouvel ESTA, c'est plus compliqué ; comme elle l'explique dans son premier message, elle ne sait pas si sa sortie des USA a bel et bien été notée par l'agent mexicain à la frontière et c'est ce qui pause soucis dans le cas présent. Car si ce n'est pas le cas, étant donné qu'un séjour au Mexique ne remet pas le compteur à zéro, en retournant aux USA, elle risque de se faire refouler et d'avoir des soucis pour avoir dépassé les 90 jours autorisés par l'ESTA (overstay).
Mariacam, il faudrait savoir où tu en es et te rapprocher des services compétents pour savoir si ta sortie des USA a bien été prise en compte. Les conseils de PierreCancun plus haut semblent bons.
Si tous les cons volaient, il ferait nuit. (Frédéric Dard)
Bonjour Magali,
Non, l'ESTA est valable 2 ans.
Bonne fin de journée.
Non, l'ESTA est valable 2 ans.
Bonne fin de journée.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
l'explique dans son premier message, elle ne sait pas si sa sortie des USA a bel et bien été notée par l'agent mexicain à la frontière et c'est ce qui pause soucis dans le cas présent..
L'agent mexicain a forcément tamponné son passeport en lui remettant le visa des 180 jours....
L'agent mexicain a forcément tamponné son passeport en lui remettant le visa des 180 jours....
On met longtemps à devenir jeune...
Vous êtes sur ! J'ai vécu le cas et n'est pas obtenu le moindre tampon sur mon passeport alors que je me suis adressé au douaniers Mexicains pour être sur de la démarche ; je ne sais pas si c'était l'heure du déjeuner mais ils m'ont indiqués la sortie avec un grand sourire.
Depuis le temps......
Il y a tjs un tampon à l, entrée et un autre à la sortie....
Seuls les illégaux n, ont pas de tampon....😛
Seuls les illégaux n, ont pas de tampon....😛
On met longtemps à devenir jeune...
Et bien "le depuis le temps" a trouvé son exception à la frontière de Tijuana fin 12/2014 (excusable puisque ce n'était qu'un aller retour de 10 jours en Californie) et à l'aéroport de Cancun fin 01/2015 pour une vrai sortie.
On verra bien si cette fois j'ai le tampon de sortie fin Août à Mexico ; j'y veillerai puisque j'ai eu le tampon d'entrée.
Me voilà donc dans la catégorie "illégaux" en ayant fait toutes démarches. Tu conclus vite.
Je me demande si les Mexicains n'entretiennent pas une base informatique des entrées/sorties à partir du documents d'immigration récupérés par les compagnies aériennes lors du départ en sortie.
On verra bien si cette fois j'ai le tampon de sortie fin Août à Mexico ; j'y veillerai puisque j'ai eu le tampon d'entrée.
Me voilà donc dans la catégorie "illégaux" en ayant fait toutes démarches. Tu conclus vite.
Je me demande si les Mexicains n'entretiennent pas une base informatique des entrées/sorties à partir du documents d'immigration récupérés par les compagnies aériennes lors du départ en sortie.
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M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊






