Entrer en Russie en voiture?
by Pedrialib
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Je souhaite l'été prochain faire le tour de la mer Baltique, en voiture.
Pouvez-vous me dire comment m'y prendre pour entrer en Russie, venant de Finlande, et ressortir par l'Estonie, avec un passage par Saint Petersbourg.(Formalités, visas, carnet passage en douane?, Camping, état des routes...)
J'ai bien conscience de poser beaucoup de question, merci d'avance à ceux qui tenteront d'y répondre.
Pedrialib
B.Pedriali
Bonjour,
Je n'ai pas testé l'itinéraire de Finlande à Saint-Pétersbourg, mais ça a l'air assez simple.
Pour passer de Saint-Pétersbourg en Estonie, le plus court est de passer par Ivangorod-Narva.
Tu n'as besoin de visa que pour la Russie.
(Mais attention, tu parles d'un voyage autour de le mer Baltique. Si tu comptes longer la Baltique vers le sud au-delà de Kaliningrad, n'oublie pas qu'il te faut un visa double entrée, sans quoi il te sera impossible d'entrer dans cette enclave russe.)
Je ne peux pas te parler des campings. En revanche, l'état des routes est très correct dans les pays Baltes. Un peu moins en Russie. Mais il me semble que le pire, ce n'est pas vraiment l'état des routes, mais la conduite des Russes ! Prudence, donc...
Je n'ai pas testé l'itinéraire de Finlande à Saint-Pétersbourg, mais ça a l'air assez simple.
Pour passer de Saint-Pétersbourg en Estonie, le plus court est de passer par Ivangorod-Narva.
Tu n'as besoin de visa que pour la Russie.
(Mais attention, tu parles d'un voyage autour de le mer Baltique. Si tu comptes longer la Baltique vers le sud au-delà de Kaliningrad, n'oublie pas qu'il te faut un visa double entrée, sans quoi il te sera impossible d'entrer dans cette enclave russe.)
Je ne peux pas te parler des campings. En revanche, l'état des routes est très correct dans les pays Baltes. Un peu moins en Russie. Mais il me semble que le pire, ce n'est pas vraiment l'état des routes, mais la conduite des Russes ! Prudence, donc...
un carnet de passage en douane ?
Je n'ai rien vu de tel. J'ai passé la frontière en train et on a tamponné mon passeport avec un dessin de train. Puis j'ai quitté le territoire en bus, et là, on m'a mis un tampon "voiture".
Il me semble que le passeport suffit. Mais peut-être quelqu'un d'autre sera-t-il mieux éclairé que moi ?
Je n'ai rien vu de tel. J'ai passé la frontière en train et on a tamponné mon passeport avec un dessin de train. Puis j'ai quitté le territoire en bus, et là, on m'a mis un tampon "voiture".
Il me semble que le passeport suffit. Mais peut-être quelqu'un d'autre sera-t-il mieux éclairé que moi ?
Bonjour et merci pour la réponse.
Le carnet de passage en douane est une document délivrée en France contre une caution égale à la valeur du véhicule, et qui est nécessaire dans de nombreux pays pour voyager avec sa voiture. Je ne sais pas si il est exigé en Russie.(ni d'ailleurs dans les états Baltes).
B.Pedriali
Bonsoir,
Les "Etasts Baltes" comme vous dites, c'est l'UE... Pas plus de formalités que pour les autres pays membres... C'est à dire carte verte... Elle les comprend toujours.
Michel
Les "Etasts Baltes" comme vous dites, c'est l'UE... Pas plus de formalités que pour les autres pays membres... C'est à dire carte verte... Elle les comprend toujours.
Michel
Essaie de voir sur les sites des automobile-clubs.
Michel
Michel
ouaip...et bien pour votre info, pas besoin du carnet de passage pour la russie...
y a juste une longue journee d'attente, enfin, quand on y est passé, c'etait le cas..
et saint petersbourg, ca vaut bien le coup, tu peux mettre ta voiture devant le consulat de france...bienplacé, et sur!
Max
Bonjour,
Je souhaite me rendre à Moscou de paris via l'Ukraine et revenir par la Finlande l'été prochain.
En dehors de mes visas perso, quelles sont les formalités administratives pour ma voiture? Et combien de temps cela prend il pour les faire?
Merci de vos réponses
Maladets, franco-russe avant tout!
salut
pas besoin de carnet de passage en douane pour la russie, cela a deja ete dit
mais pour l auto
presenter la carte grise original du vehicule et indiquer la couleur
et se faire inscrire a l ovir dans les trois jours, une fois rentre en russie
soit dans une agence, soit a l hotel
l assurance pour l auto coute a peu pres 60 roros pour un mois, plus une taxe de 3, 50 euros
tout ceci : en plus du visa et de l invitation
ces chiffres datent de l ete 2006, ou nous avons traverse la russie a l aller et au retour, pour se rendre en mongolie
a plus pour infos
DIDIER/PARIS-KABOUL-KHATMANDOU
je suis alle en aout a saint peter et moscou en camping car, il ne faut pas de carnet de passage en douane
routes bonnes malgre quelques ornieres, attention aux camions, la police aime le touriste, c'est 500 roubles pour chaque infraction. (sans pv bien sur) le voyage vaut le coup
amicalement
bonjour à tous!
le post date un peu, 2006 quand même...! mais je tente le coup en esperant que vous puissiez me donner quelques infos. Je vais aussi aller en Russie en voiture prochainement (Fev/Mars).
Je voulais savoir comment ça s'est passé avec la Police (un peu corrompue il me semble): sympa avec les étrangers? racket de quelques euros ou roubles? compréhensifs? comment ça se passe en gros et en général?
et avec la Population: acceuillants? gentils? compréhensifs? Y a t il eu quelques moment où vous vous êtes pas sentis en insécurité?
et concérnant les réparations éventuelles de la voiture? Plutôt simple? garages pas trop rares? a priori j'aurai une Lada (produit plutôt local...)
merci pour votre aide!
Bonne année à tous.
Nico
le post date un peu, 2006 quand même...! mais je tente le coup en esperant que vous puissiez me donner quelques infos. Je vais aussi aller en Russie en voiture prochainement (Fev/Mars).
Je voulais savoir comment ça s'est passé avec la Police (un peu corrompue il me semble): sympa avec les étrangers? racket de quelques euros ou roubles? compréhensifs? comment ça se passe en gros et en général?
et avec la Population: acceuillants? gentils? compréhensifs? Y a t il eu quelques moment où vous vous êtes pas sentis en insécurité?
et concérnant les réparations éventuelles de la voiture? Plutôt simple? garages pas trop rares? a priori j'aurai une Lada (produit plutôt local...)
merci pour votre aide!
Bonne année à tous.
Nico
Bonjour,
Je viens de tomber sur un vieux message mais peut-être pourrez-vous encore y apporter une réponse. J'ai vu que vous aviez traversé la Russie A/R pour vous rendre en Mongolie. C'est le voyage que je compte faire cet été avec un vieux bus Mercedes. Pourriez-vous me dire quelle est la route que vous avez suivie et quelles modalités pour l'assurance du véhicule?
Merci
Olivier
Voici un blog à suivre. Ils sont parti ce lundi pour la Mongolie.Certainement il vous apportera des réponses.
http://route-de-la-soie-2015.jimdo.com/carte-itin%C3%A9raire/
Amicalement
http://route-de-la-soie-2015.jimdo.com/carte-itin%C3%A9raire/
Amicalement
B.Pedriali
salut
je suis retourné en Mongolie par la route en 2013 si ta carte verte ne mentionne pas la russie, tu la prends a la frontière
je trouve, qu il y a moins de corruption qu en 2006 sur les routes
itinéraire : moscou samara omsk et aprés : soit tu traverse l altai ( jolis paysages ) par Barnaul ou bien tu file jusqu a Ulan udé en ayant longer le lac baikal auparavant
a plus pour infos
je suis retourné en Mongolie par la route en 2013 si ta carte verte ne mentionne pas la russie, tu la prends a la frontière
je trouve, qu il y a moins de corruption qu en 2006 sur les routes
itinéraire : moscou samara omsk et aprés : soit tu traverse l altai ( jolis paysages ) par Barnaul ou bien tu file jusqu a Ulan udé en ayant longer le lac baikal auparavant
a plus pour infos
DIDIER/PARIS-KABOUL-KHATMANDOU
J'ai vu que vous aviez traversé la Russie A/R pour vous rendre en Mongolie. C'est le voyage que je compte faire cet été avec un vieux bus Mercedes. Pourriez-vous me dire quelle est la route que vous avez suivie et quelles modalités pour l'assurance du véhicule?
pour la Mongolie je ne sais pas, mais pour la Russie, depuis 5 ou 6 ans, le pays est dans la convention "carte verte", donc il n'y a pas d'assurance spécifique à prendre, juste emporter la carte verte, ET le permis international. A la douane on remplie deux exemplaires d'une déclaration d'importation, avec montant aléatoire pour le prix du véhicule, ils gardent un exemplaire et on garde l'autre, tamponé, à présenter lorsqu'on sort de Russie. C'est une formalité selon le principe qu'une entrée de véhicule est techniquement une importation temporaire. Ne pas perdre cette déclaration. Pour accélérer le passage en douane il est bien de pré-remplir soit même les formulaires à l'avance.
Depuis la Belgique, il me semble qu'il faut planifier les visas et durée de passage dans/hors de Biélorussie, sinon contourner par la Lithuanie et Lettonie ou le nord de l'Ukraine (Kharkov-Belgorod).
pour la Mongolie je ne sais pas, mais pour la Russie, depuis 5 ou 6 ans, le pays est dans la convention "carte verte", donc il n'y a pas d'assurance spécifique à prendre, juste emporter la carte verte, ET le permis international. A la douane on remplie deux exemplaires d'une déclaration d'importation, avec montant aléatoire pour le prix du véhicule, ils gardent un exemplaire et on garde l'autre, tamponé, à présenter lorsqu'on sort de Russie. C'est une formalité selon le principe qu'une entrée de véhicule est techniquement une importation temporaire. Ne pas perdre cette déclaration. Pour accélérer le passage en douane il est bien de pré-remplir soit même les formulaires à l'avance.
Depuis la Belgique, il me semble qu'il faut planifier les visas et durée de passage dans/hors de Biélorussie, sinon contourner par la Lithuanie et Lettonie ou le nord de l'Ukraine (Kharkov-Belgorod).
Merci à vous deux pour vos réactions rapide. Torrens1988, peux-tu me dire si le passage par Barnaul et entrée en Mongolie par le poste frontière de Tsagaannuur est facile que ce soit du point de vue administratif (passage de la frontière) et état de la route (montagne, ....). Je serai avec un bus Mercedes (donc pas un véhicule 4X4).
J'ai fait l'itinéraire jusqu'à Irkoutsk par le transibérien en 1987 (!) pour rejoindre la Chine et donc descendre directement vers la Mongolie me tente assez surtout si tu me dis que les paysages sont intéressants.
Par contre je n'ai pas encore fixé notre itinéraire en Mongolie de manière définitive. Nous comptons y passer un mois avant de reprendre le chemin de retour (en avion?).
salut
par l altai : c est goudronné jusqu a la frontière, aucun souci ! aprés en mongolie : de la piste; ton bus va souffrir un peu
en 2006 : la frontière a été passé en 3h30 en 2013 : il a fallu 10 h
attention : si cela n a pas changé : cette frontière est fermée pendant les 3 jours du Naadam aux environs du 14 juillet
pour rejoindre U Baatoor : je te conseille de prendre par le sud : après Olgy et le pays "se goudronne" de plus en plus : sur les grands axes tout du moins
good trip
par l altai : c est goudronné jusqu a la frontière, aucun souci ! aprés en mongolie : de la piste; ton bus va souffrir un peu
en 2006 : la frontière a été passé en 3h30 en 2013 : il a fallu 10 h
attention : si cela n a pas changé : cette frontière est fermée pendant les 3 jours du Naadam aux environs du 14 juillet
pour rejoindre U Baatoor : je te conseille de prendre par le sud : après Olgy et le pays "se goudronne" de plus en plus : sur les grands axes tout du moins
good trip
DIDIER/PARIS-KABOUL-KHATMANDOU
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Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.






