Nous avons déjà réservé nos billets d'avion pour notre voyage au Japon du 3 avril (arrivée le 4) au 24 avril 2017. Notre itinéraire est en construction (il y aura la région du Kansai, Kyoto, les alpes japonaises ou une autre région (kyushu ?) et un peu Tokyo). Nous orientons notre voyage vers les petits villages / villes et la nature (kinosaki, takayama, magome, naoshima...)
Considérant que nous allons faire pas mal de train et pour ne pas payer le NEX à l'aller et au retour, nous pensons que le pass de 21 jours serait rentable.
Je veux seulement être sur : Si nous activons le pass dès le 4 avril 2017 et que nous repartons le 24 avril 2017, cela fait exactement 21 jours : donc nous pourrions utiliser le pass du 4 avril au 24 avril inclut (pour le NEX vers Narita au retour).
Nous souhaitons aussi l'activer dès notre arrivée, car nous prévoyons partir à Kyoto la journée même ou le lendemain (arrivée à Narita vers 13h00 de Chicago) car ce sera la saison des cerisiers et nous allons être "limite" en arrivant le 4 avril (nous terminons de travailler le vendredi, donc la fin de semaine permettra de terminer les préparatifs et se reposer!!)
Est ce que je peux me permettre de vous demander si mon "compte" est bon :)
Pour le Pass, il faut faire des simulations sur le site hyperdia.
A moins d'avoir la bougeotte au point de ne plus voir que des trains, un pass de 21 jours est rarement rentable au Japon.
Si par exemple tu restes la dernière semaine à Tokyo, d'emblée, tu n'auras pas besoin d'un pass de plus de 14 jours. Même si tu dois payer le NEX en repartant (qui n'est pas forcément le plus adapté pour rejoindre Narita selon l'endroit où tu es, d'autres lignes ou des limousine-bus sont parfois plus adaptés) tu ne rentabilisera pas un JR Pass à Tokyo.
Puisqu'à peine arrivé au Japon à Narita tu files directement à Kyoto (ce qui n'est pas forcément une bonne idée à mon avis...), pourquoi ne pas avoir prix un vol direct pour Osaka ? Ou au moins une escale à Tokyo et un vol domestique Tokyo-Osaka compris dans ton vol principal ? C'est compliquer ton parcours dès le départ...
Votre calcul est exact, un railpass de 21 jours couvrirait en effet tout votre séjour.
Il semble cher et peu rentable à beaucoup de gens car il s'agit d'une "grosse" somme à sortir d'un coup et bien entendu on ne le rentabilise pas si l'on reste plusieurs jours dans une ville comme Kyoto ou Tokyo.
Toutefois, lorsqu'on a "la bougeotte", il peut s'avérer tellement pratique que la question purement financière passe au second plan (d'autant plus que, les transports étant déjà payés d'avance, on est sûr de ne pas exploser son budget).
On peut ainsi décider au dernier moment de toutes sortes d'excursions à la journée au départ de son lieu de séjour, en empruntant les trains les plus rapides ...
Ceci étant, voyez tout de même si un 14 jours ne serait pas suffisant, surtout si vous passez les derniers jours à Tokyo où le railpass est essentiellement sans intérêt, sachant que rejoindre Narita peut ne coûter que ~1000 yens via les lignes Keisei au départ de Ueno ou Access express via Asakusa ...
En effet, nous aurions dû arriver à Osaka - mais nous avons eu un très bon deal avec ANA vers Tokyo, deals inexistants vers Kyoto. Pour 720$ canadien environ, alors que les prix oscillent davantage vers 1100$ canadien. Nous pouvons donc nous permettre éventuellement une japan rail pass de 21 jours - mais nous sommes à définir notre itinéraire, donc si c'est un 14 jours, tant mieux !
De plus, en arrivant le 4 avril, nous ne voulons pas rester trop longtemps à Tokyo pour ne pas manquer les cerisiers en fleurs à Kyoto, spectacle apparemment magique !
Nous partagerons notre itinéraire lorsqu'ils sera réalisé,
merci !
Merci pour votre réponse CamilityGin, j'ai l'assurance que mon pass fonctionnera du début à la fin !
Comme nous quittons immédiatement pour Kyoto (voir message précédent), nous pensons l'activer immédiatement à l'aéroport. Selon notre itinéraire, nous allons déterminer si un 14 jours ou 21 jours serait le plus adapté. Mais tel que vous le mentionner, avoir la conscience "tranquille" est un plus, surtout que nous ne sommes pas très grande villes (2 jours-3 jours max - nous termineront avec Tokyo le 21-22 avril), le pass de 21 jours pourrait être pratique. Entre le Mont Yoshino, Nara, Kinosaki, takayama, la région du Fuji, c'est pas mal de distance qui pourra être couverte !
Mais tel que vous le mentionner, avoir la conscience "tranquille" est un plus, surtout que nous ne sommes pas très grande villes (2 jours-3 jours max - nous termineront avec Tokyo le 21-22 avril), le pass de 21 jours pourrait être pratique
Attention à ne pas faire du tourisme à la japonaise...
Le Japon est un pays qui s'apprécie et se découvre en y prenant son temps, pas en enchaînant un maximum d'étapes en un minimum de temps (à moins d'avoir un reportage sur les trains japonais à faire, mais bon, le sujet a déjà été traité, faudra trouver l'angle)...
Je ne sais pas quel est ton itinéraire, mais pense à te poser, à rester dans les lieux déterminés. Ce sera la meilleure (voire la seule) manière de bien découvrir le Japon.
Je suis tout a fait d'accord ! J'ai déjà "rushé" des voyages et ce ne sont pas les meilleurs. Nous voulons prendre notre temps.
La première ébauche de l'itinéraire serait : (je suis p-e pas sur la bonne section du forum)
J1 : Arrivée à TYO vers 13h00 - départ vers Kyoto le jour même ou le lendemain matin
J2 : Kyoto
J3 : Kyoto
J4 : Kyoto
J5 : Kyoto
J6 : Nara ou le mont yoshino
J7 : Naoshima (1 nuit)
J8 : Trajet Naoshima vers Takayama
J9 : Takayama
J10 : Kamikochi (1 nuit)
J11 : Trajet Kamikochi vers Matsumoto (1 nuit)
J12 : Vallée du Kiso : Tsumago - Magome (1 nuit ou retour à Matsumoto après la petite ballade entre les deux villages)
J13 : Retour à Matsumoto si nous restons une nuit à Magome ou Tsumago (1 nuit)
J14 : Trajet vers la région du Fuji
j15 : Région du Fuji (lieu à déterminer)
J16 : Région du Fuji (lieu à déterminer)
J17 : Trajet vers Tokyo
J18 : Tokyo
J19 : Tokyo
J20 : Tokyo
J21 : Retour à Montréal via Chicago à 17h
Je n'ai pas placé Kinosaki et je vais devoir faire un choix entre Nara et le Mont Yoshino.
Nous partons dans 7 mois, donc c'est sujet à changement :)
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I’m planning our very first trip to mainland France in January 2027. There’ll be 2 adults and 2 kids, and we’ll mostly be traveling by train.
Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
Rouen (Normandy)
Lyon
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I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
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I’m planning a family trip in a year. Our goal: traveling to China (and maybe Hong Kong) by train.
I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
- How far in advance to book / any potential difficulties with reservations
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- Day trains vs. night trains (the latter option lets you explore cities between two legs of the journey)
- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
A huge thank you to anyone who can share some info or experiences. It’s also a great opportunity to chat about adventure after (way too) many years away from this forum.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
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I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
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So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
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Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
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Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
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Hi there,
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We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
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