Actuellement je suis en Thaïlande, à Ayutthaya, où je suis venu voir les anciens temples en ruines..... pour découvrir qu'ils avaient étés restaurés il y'a déjà longtemps.
C'est beau, certes.... mais ce n'est PAS authentique.
Où pourrais-je aller pour voir des ruines qui datent VRAIMENT de plusieurs siècles, pas qui ont étés refaites à coup de briquettes rouge il y'a 30 ans?
Bonjour,
La restauration, comme partout, permet justement que ce soit encore debout visitable. D'autant plus indispensable à Ayutthaya qui subit régulièrement de graves inondations.
Les chantiers sont d'ailleurs supervisés par des archéologues de renommée internationale. Ce que tu cherches m'échappe.
Bjr
vous allez sur le site ww.khmer-temple.com
et en plus des plus connus vous programmez de visiter les plus petits a cote qui sont souvent encore tres peu restaures
sinon il vous reste aussi a programmer un tour a angkor
et sur place a demander d aller voir les temples completement perdu
il y a en a des centaines voire plus
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
Jusqu'où ira la recherche de "l'authentique " ?, véritable "graal" du voyageur de notre époque ! 😏
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
......le vrai, la ruine dans laquelle pousse des arbres centenaires....les image d'Angkor avant la ruée touristique......perso je comprends ca....mais en Thailande, ben non....
..c'est pas trop la même notion culturelle que chez nous : quand le temple est trop vieux on en construit un neuf.....
...il y a bien le ( fabuleux ) Preah Vihear, mais on peux plus y aller côté Thailandais...
Justement, moi je suis du style à préférer voir des ruines dont il ne reste qu'un champ de pierre à même le sol, complètement effondré depuis des siècles et sans intérêt photographique, que de voir des "ruines" restaurée.
Justement, moi je suis du style à préférer voir des ruines dont il ne reste qu'un champ de pierre à même le sol, complètement effondré depuis des siècles et sans intérêt photographique, que de voir des "ruines" restaurée.
Bonjour
Je comprends ce que tu veux dire
Ici en visite zen
qq pièces restaurées, mais globalement en l'état d'origne
Si Satchanalai Historical Park
photo 1-2-3
De beaux partiels a
Chiang-mai Ancien city
photo 4-5-6
notre visite coup de cœur, diapo et vidéo:
voyageurasie-soleillevant.blogspot.com/...ite-e...
Où pourrais-je aller pour voir des ruines qui datent VRAIMENT de plusieurs siècles, pas qui ont étés refaites à coup de briquettes rouge il y'a 30 ans?
Bonjour à tous,
Euh...pour info, à l'époque de leur construction les temples et sculptures étaient entièrement recouverts de plâtre blanc, celui-ci s'est dégradé au fil du temps et ne recouvre plus qu'une infime proportion des constructions. La pierre de construction était de couleur rouge que l'on voit souvent aujourd'hui à nu.
Vous avez été visiter le Wat Mahatat Wat Chay Vattanaram à Ayutthaya ? Rien n'a été restauré et tout a laissé tel quel: c'est une étendue de ruines faites de briques rouges justement !
Actuellement je suis en Thaïlande, à Ayutthaya, où je suis venu voir les anciens temples en ruines..... pour découvrir qu'ils avaient étés restaurés il y'a déjà longtemps.
C'est beau, certes.... mais ce n'est PAS authentique.
Où pourrais-je aller pour voir des ruines qui datent VRAIMENT de plusieurs siècles, pas qui ont étés refaites à coup de briquettes rouge il y'a 30 ans?
Bonjour,
Il y a deux ans nous sommes allés dans la région de Surin , il y en a beaucoup de temples anciens à voir , nous sommes même allés à la frontière du Cambodge visiter un autre temple que le preah....?D'un côté les soldats Thai et de l'autre les Cambodgiens apparemment en bon terme.
Nous avions pris une agence de voyage sur place....(Sarentravel@hotmail.com) qui nous a promené toute la journée en voiture et nous avons fait le tour d'une grande partie des temples de la région , Génial pratiquement pas de touristes. Les temples sont ne sont pas restaurés ...et nous étions avec les locaux!!
Penser qu'un site historique quel qu'il soit n'a pas été un jour restauré démontre une méconnaissance totale du travail du temps et de celui des archéologues. Angkor, puisque cité, n'aurait pas été restauré qu'il serait d'ailleurs impraticable. Et à ce titre, les sites khmers de l'Issan, qui sont en relation directe avec Angkor, ne sont pas plus "authentiques" que les autres.
Il est vrai qu'on parle de la Thaïlande et que ce pays semble très apprécié des détracteurs multicartes. Ils nous diront sans doute que les Thaïs sont aussi des incapables dans ce domaine, leurs universitaires pathétiques et l'UNESCO y laisse faire n'importe quoi.
Entre sites millénaires empilés les uns sur les autres, d'autres bâtis en déconstruisant ailleurs dès leur origine, j'aimerais savoir quelle ancienneté doit avoir une restauration pour être considérée comme une ruine "authentique".
Les vestiges visibles en Thaïlande représentent d'ailleurs une infime partie de ce que furent ces sites/villes qui, à leur apogée, s'étendaient pour certains sur des surfaces considérables.
Un simple exemple du Wat Phra Si Sanphet d'Ayutthaya tel qu'il fut à son origine. Quand il aura été "restauré", faites-moi signe.🤪
Un simple exemple du Wat Phra Si Sanphet d'Ayutthaya tel qu'il fut à son origine. Quand il aura été "restauré", faites-moi signe.🤪
Bah non, pas assez authentique pour Ceroxon le Wat Phra Si Sanphet, le plus grand temple d'Ayutthaya avec ses 3 chedis, l'un des plus beaux de la ville. Avec tous ces murs d'enceintes en ruine mais en briques rouges, ça va pas le faire 😕
Un simple exemple du Wat Phra Si Sanphet d'Ayutthaya tel qu'il fut à son origine. Quand il aura été "restauré", faites-moi signe.🤪
Bah non, pas assez authentique pour Ceroxon le Wat Phra Si Sanphet, le plus grand temple d'Ayutthaya avec ses 3 chedis, l'un des plus beaux de la ville. Avec tous ces murs d'enceintes en ruine mais en briques rouges, ça va pas le faire 😕
3 chedids ou 6 ou + aprés abus d'une boisson locale, ou en période de canicule
briques rouge difficiles a comptabilisées,
et tissus safran et or rappel omniprésent du bouddhisme qui, au fait est religion d’état ou pas ?
Ce gardien du temple semble dire,
C'est quoi tous ces délires?
vous fatiguez pas, simples mortels, les explications, c'est au dessus de ma tête
Et selon la formule consacrée: A chacun son voyage,
autres formes d'authenticité:
1 - mon authentique préféré: Le mémorial de Naresuan (1555 - 1605) roi emblématique objet d'une grande vénération
2 - une autre forme de briques très appréciée sur certains sites (authentiquement intemporel)
3 - tondeuse a gazon authentiquement écolo
Pas loin d'Ayyuthaya il y a Kampheang Phet, peu connu. L'ensemble des temples sont sympas à visiter. Pas restaurés, mais préservés quand même.
Site dans la même série, classé UNESCO et bien évidemment tout autant restauré que les autres. Ceroxon cherchant quelques tas de briques à même le sol, il trouvera son bonheur dans une des fabriques du pays encore en activité.
Et quand c'est manufacturé, la fabrique de briques, c'est authentique.
Amen....Certain confondent "authentique" et site peu visité.
D'ailleurs cette notion même "d'authenticité touristique" est ridicule à souhait !
Je prend pour exemple le fait de visiter la muraille de Chine:
Je peux choisir un site restauré ou un autre laissé à l'abandon.
L'un ne sera pas plus "authentique" que l'autre, c'est simplement une question de choix !! Choix visuel, choix d'ambiance ect...mais sûrement pas une question d'authenticité puisque la muraille reste ma muraille . A la base, cette muraille ne ressemblait sûrement pas aux ruines que l'on peut voir sur certains site.
Certes, le travail de restauration peut parfois etre sujet a critiques, et manquer de jutesse de finesse rude fidélité au monument historique. Mais je peux comrendre ceux qui préfèrent se retrouver sur un site restaurer leur permettant peut être de mieux se faire une idée de sa splendeur passée , tout comme je comprend aussi ceux qui préfère un site laissé en quasi état d'abandon. Les deux se respecte et se valent et encore une fois , l'un n'est pas plus authentique que l'autre.
Dans le même cas, certain château en France aurait il dû être laisser à l'abandon et tomber en décrépitude et en ruine, uniquement pour préserver leur pseudo côté authentique ?
Dans le même cas, certain château en France aurait il dû être laisser à l'abandon et tomber en décrépitude et en ruine, uniquement pour préserver leur pseudo côté authentique ?
Pas mal se sont reconvertis dans l’étiquette, pas la cérémoniale, celle de Bacchus
Il y a même un authentique château au Siam
Justement, moi je suis du style à préférer voir des ruines dont il ne reste qu'un champ de pierre à même le sol, complètement effondré depuis des siècles et sans intérêt photographique, que de voir des "ruines" restaurée.
Phu Phra That Phek.C'est une ruine Kmer datant du 16ème ou 17 ème siècle Bouddhiste qui abrite un cadran solaire Les anciens l'utilisaient pour indiquer la position du soleil et indiquer la date des rites religieux, des saisons agricoles..............
En réalité c'est une pagode carrée authentique inachevée, juste quatre murs. et pas de pierre autour qui pourraient faire penser qu'elle s'est écroulé.
Pour rejoindre le sommet du Phu, environ 400 marches sont à gravir... j ai connu pire avec le Phu Tok ou Erawan Cave qui en compte 600, mais ces marches font 25 cm de haut et 20 cm en profondeur, un casse patte , heureusement à l'ombre d'une forêt de bambous.
Justement, moi je suis du style à préférer voir des ruines dont il ne reste qu'un champ de pierre à même le sol, complètement effondré depuis des siècles et sans intérêt photographique, que de voir des "ruines" restaurée.
Province de Si Saket
Prasat Hin Ban Samo
Prasat Prang Ku
Sakon Nakhon
Prasat Khom - Une dizaine de km avant d ' arriver a Sawang Daen Din , cote gauche de la route en venant de Sakon Nakhon ; C'est indique au bord de la grande route, ensuite plus rien, mais c'est tout proche .
Le socialisme ne peut fonctionner qu’au paradis où il n’est pas utile, et en enfer où ils l’ont déjà
bonjour ; il y a aussi à 25kms de Nakhon Ratchasima , le grand parc historique de Phimai , certe très visité , mais dégageant une sérénité .... et non loin un gigantesque badian de plusieurs centaines de m²
Ah Bon? Alors quand je regarde les pyramides d'egypte où les rochers à Stonehenge ce ne sont pas ceux d'origine mais des récents reconstruits et recouverts de je ne sais quoi il y'a une trentaine d'années? Les ruines antiques N'EXISTENT plus du tout en fait?
J'ai bien conscience que pour diverses raisons, nombre de ruine sont étés restaurées, démolies, saccagées avant même que le tourisme soit inventé.
Je dois bien pouvoir trouver des constructions de disons 300 ans encore debout quelque part dans le monde quand même non?
Et en Thaïlande?
Quand j'aurai fini ce pays je passe au Cambodge. La cité de Koker sur la route d'Angkor m'a l'air très bien à vue de nez.
Merci d'avoir fait l'effort de répondre ceci dit. Ce n'était pas en vain.
Ah Bon? Alors quand je regarde les pyramides d'egypte où les rochers à Stonehenge ce ne sont pas ceux d'origine mais des récents reconstruits et recouverts de je ne sais quoi il y'a une trentaine d'années?
Ce sont des bâtis fort différents des murs de briquette qui font tout le charme des sites thaïs et qui ne tiennent pas sans liant. D'ailleurs, les pyramides d'Egypte ont elles aussi été restaurées. Le cas de Stonehenge est différent puisque mégalithique mais le site a lui aussi donné lieu à de la restauration et re-disposition des blocs, d'ailleurs fort contestée.
Je ne comprends pas l'origine de ta déception à Ayutthaya, mais si tu trouves ton bonheur ailleurs, je serai très heureux que tu m'en parles, ça me permettra peut-être de découvrir des sites que je ne connais pas et de mieux comprendre l'origine de ta frustration.
Et pour l'anecdote, le béton était déjà employé par les Egyptiens antiques. 😉
Je recherche l'authenticité de la chose. Pas la beauté. Quand je suis venu à Ayuthaya dans le cadre de mon tour du monde à pieds, je cherche des ruines authentiques. Je me "fous" du "charme" des constructions en briquettes rouges. Je veux quelque chose d'authentique, pas de "beau".
Bien sûr, je comprends que les pyramides pour l'exemple sont fait dans des matériaux et une architecture bien plus durable que les "petits" temples Thaïlandais.
Quand je regarde un temple, si je vois que 90% du truc est fait en briquette rouge (ou même des pierres taillées venant des mêmes montagne que celle d'origines) à 90%, je ne vois pas une ruine antique. Je vois une construction vieille de quelques années dans le style de celle d'origine.
Maintenant, si je vois un temple qui est à 70% fait avec les pierres naturelles et 30% de restauration.... je peux l'accepter.
Au fait, Angkor, c'est restauré ok, mais JUSQU'A QUEL POINT?
Quand je regarde un temple, si je vois que 90% du truc est fait en briquette rouge (ou même des pierres taillées venant des mêmes montagne que celle d'origines) à 90%, je ne vois pas une ruine antique. Je vois une construction vieille de quelques années dans le style de celle d'origine.
Ta recherche m'est totalement incompréhensible. Je peux te mettre en ligne des documents ou des pages web qui reconstituent les sites de Thaïlande du temps de leur splendeur: de 75 à 90% des bâtiments ont été détruits. Ce qui subsiste est donc très partiel, et parfaitement authentique.
Par ailleurs, tu as des temples qui sont aussi des lieux de culte contemporains et qui sont restaurés pratiquement en totalité (voire restaurés déjà il y a quelques siècles), par exemple le Wihan du Phra Mongkhon Bophit.
Les royaumes bâtisseurs les plus anciens du pays datant en gros des X au XIV ème siècle, la Thaïlande n'est pas le bon endroit si tu cherches plus ancien.
Super votre carte! Malheureusement je ne la retrouve pas au bout de votre lien et je ne la retrouve pas non plus via des moteurs de recherche, ..J'aimerais bien en particulier trouver la legende et le nom de temples qu'indiquent des numeros.
Pourriez vous me renvoyer le lien ou une capture d'ecran s'il vous plait?
Merci :)
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J'ai beaucoup traîné en Thaïlande, j'ai fini ce pay sil y'a deux semaiens. Maintenant je susi au Cambodge. C aira beaucoup plus vite. Je devrais être au Vietnam début Juillet tout au plus;s'en suivra les Philippines, l'Indonésie, le Myanmar, l'Inde/Népal, le Pakistan, l'Iran, la Turquie, la grece, quelques pays des Balkans, l'Italie, l'Angleterre, la France. Une pause pour regagner de l'argent puis ensuite on verra.
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Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise