Moluques 2016 résumé
by Sandrasia
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Bonjour a tous et bonne année!!
voici le résumé de mon voyage au moluques de 30 jours novembre 2016
Vol Jakarta/Ambon/Tual avec Garuda départ 8,15h arrivée 15,30h heure locale
-1 semaine : îles kay" Koaster Cottage" (docteur house) très bon logement idéal pour se reposer, loué scooter 3 jours pour visiter l'ile
-Bateau Pelni de Lanngour a Bandaneira (Départ 20,30 arrivé 8,30H).Grosse chance d'avoir le bon bateau a la période désiré(Un bateau tous les 15 jours).Information disponible sur le site Pelni une semaine avant.Il faut se procurer le billet à Tual quelque jours avant
Pas la peine de essayer d'avoir une cabine ou une première classe hors de prix.Donc le moins pire c'est le pont.(amac super)
Départ du port de Bandaneira avec bateau publique pour Pulau Ay à 10,30H(chance , sa peut etre 12H ou 14h difficile d'avoir une regle)
-10 jours a Pulau Ay "Green Coconut".le + Très bonne cuisine et bon snoorkeling devant la terrasse .Les 2 chambres donnant sur la terrasse sont correctes les autres très sombres.
Départ publique boat de Pulau Ay 7H à Bandaneira puis Bandaneira/ Pulau Hatta(la encore plus, impossible d'avoir l'heure et le jours des publiques boat même pour le locaux, donc sans chance on peut passer la nuit à bandaneira ou organiser un bateau privé depuis Ay pour les pressés)
-12 jours à Pulau Hatta "Bungalow Bintang" sur la plage devant ou on débarque. Pas de téléphone sur cette île donc presque impossible de réserver on y vas et on cherche avec plus ou moins de chance.Mais on trouve toujours plus ou moins bien..
-Bateau rapide de Bandaneira a Tulehu(ile de Ambon) Départ à 8,30 arrivée 15,30
-2 jours à 12 km au nord de tulehu : Liangau "Metiella Restaurant" deux bungalow en attendant l'avion, plage pas paradisiaque mais au moins on peut se baigner, nous l'avons préféré à Ambon ville.
-Une nuit chez Penginapan Michael très propre prix imbattable et on peut se rendre a pied a l’aéroport
-Avion pour vol Ambon Jakarta; deux nuit a12km de l’aéroport Traveller Home sur booking très bonne guest house avec cuisine et commerces alimentaires en proximité
On as aimées: Le planning en crescendo , le Kei après les Banda sa doit être un peu une déception alors que au début du voyage pour prendre ces repaires et ce reposer c'est parfait.La gentillesse des résidents, par tout.La cuisine en général de très bonne qualité.La beauté de paysages et évidement et surtout la MER.. Le développent touristique encore très balbutiant juste le minimum qui'il faut pour le moment (exclus Bandanaira)Bref on as adorée.
Merci encore pour le nombreuses réponses dans la préparation de mon voyage
PS: la liaison en avion de Bandaneira a Ambon as été pour le moment interrompue fin octobre 2016
Bonjour
Et le temps à cette période, état de la mer pour les traversées ? Vos logements ont été books à l'avance ou une fois sur place ? Les transferts d'îles en îles ne sont pas toujours assurés donc très difficile d'être certain de tenir un planning établi à l'avance ? Risque d'être bloqué sur une île et de devoir payer une ardoise pour pouvoir se rendre sur une autre ? Pour le change, vous l'avez effectué à Jakarta ou Ambon ?
Si vous aviez à refaire le même voyage: quelles serait les modifications à faire ou resteriez vous sur ce sens de trajet ?
Merci
Et le temps à cette période, état de la mer pour les traversées ? Vos logements ont été books à l'avance ou une fois sur place ? Les transferts d'îles en îles ne sont pas toujours assurés donc très difficile d'être certain de tenir un planning établi à l'avance ? Risque d'être bloqué sur une île et de devoir payer une ardoise pour pouvoir se rendre sur une autre ? Pour le change, vous l'avez effectué à Jakarta ou Ambon ?
Si vous aviez à refaire le même voyage: quelles serait les modifications à faire ou resteriez vous sur ce sens de trajet ?
Merci
Bonjour Mistig,
Pour le temps :Parfait mer calme, eaux transparentes .A priori la saison de pluies commence mi novembre aux kei, decembre aux Banda.
Je ne changerais rien à mon itinéraire, surtout pas le sens mais si on as pas trop de temps renoncer plutôt aux kai .En effet le gros problème est le Pelni seulement deux bateaux par mois.Donc selon les dates on risque de passer 8 jours de plus aux Kai. Toujour la possibilité de retourner de Tual à Ambon en avion et attendre le bateaux rapide pour le Banda mais on perd 2/4 jours..Le bateau des Banda à Tulehu (ambon) partent 3 fois par semaine(moi c'étais un dimanche) le matin, le jour avant dans l'autre sens.
J'avait réservé uniquement le premier 4 jours aux Coaster Cottage et rallongé ensuite.Le reste sur place, pour le moment c'est encore faisable sans problèmes , peut être sa ne serais plus le cas d'un un ans surtout à Pulau Hatta que, au vue du potentiel vas surement se développer vite, je pense..
Sur les îles des Banda peu de risque de rester bloquées, sauf mauvais temps ;bateaux publiques tous le jours de Ai fiables,3 fois par semaine sur Hatta mais très aléatoires. Mais au pire un bateau privée c'est 400 roupies et on peut partager..
On as tout retiré à Jakarta airport, mais sur Langgur et Bandanaira plusieurs DAB
Bon voyage...
Bonjours Mistig,
A mon avis les îles Kai sont très belles au niveau plage cocotiers tranquillité facilité a se déplacer avec un scooter etc..mais pour le snoorkeling c'est pas le paradis même si en bateaux on peut arriver à des endroits sympa.
Alors que les fonds aux Banda sont (pour le moment) encore magiques, et donc c'est un grand plus.Mais tout est une question de goûts..
Personnellement je sait que si j'avait fait les Kai après les Banda j'aurais été un peut déçue, alors que la a peine débarqué j'ai adoré Mais sa dépend toujours de se que on cherche..
Bonne soirée
Donc pour nous se serait plutôt en septembre les Kai puisque nous pratiquons peu le snorkeling.
Plutôt adepte de ballades en nature ou scooter, plages et villages.
J'ai un peu les mêmes critères, donc oui les Iles Key en priorité, mais ne pas faire l'impasse sur les Banda tout de même (Neilaka, Hatta, sont magnifiques et pas seulement sous l'eau).
Merci Sandra pour le compte rendu, me confirmant que je dois retourner aux iles Key en novembre. J'y étais il y a quelques années juste après un jour de l'an, je n'ai eu que de la pluie, je n'ai quasiment rien vu aux iles Key à part Pasir Panjang sous la grisaille...
J'ai un peu les mêmes critères, donc oui les Iles Key en priorité, mais ne pas faire l'impasse sur les Banda tout de même (Neilaka, Hatta, sont magnifiques et pas seulement sous l'eau).
Merci Sandra pour le compte rendu, me confirmant que je dois retourner aux iles Key en novembre. J'y étais il y a quelques années juste après un jour de l'an, je n'ai eu que de la pluie, je n'ai quasiment rien vu aux iles Key à part Pasir Panjang sous la grisaille...
Bonjour Lolodesiles
Les Key et les Bandas en 18 jours seraient faisables ? Si vous avez des infos sur transferts depuis Ambon, endroits à privilégier, ceux à éviter, etc... n'hésitez pas. J'ai pu lire votre compte rendu et différents posts mais des infos récentes sont appréciables car très peu de celles-ci sur la toile.
Septembre est une bonne période pour ces 2 endroits ?
merci
Les Key et les Bandas en 18 jours seraient faisables ? Si vous avez des infos sur transferts depuis Ambon, endroits à privilégier, ceux à éviter, etc... n'hésitez pas. J'ai pu lire votre compte rendu et différents posts mais des infos récentes sont appréciables car très peu de celles-ci sur la toile.
Septembre est une bonne période pour ces 2 endroits ?
merci
Lion Air et d'autres compagnies vont aux iles Key depuis Ambon.
En théorie 18 jours sont faisables pour Key + Banda mais il faut faire en fonction des transports. Voici quelques infos mises à jour par un spécialiste de la région: http://www.east-indonesia.info/regions/maluku-travel-information-banda-islands.html
Les iles Key suivent le climat des iles de la Sonde donc septembre sera excellent. Pour les iles Banda, qui suivent le climat spécifique d'Ambon, ça devrait être ok (le gros des pluies sera passé).
En théorie 18 jours sont faisables pour Key + Banda mais il faut faire en fonction des transports. Voici quelques infos mises à jour par un spécialiste de la région: http://www.east-indonesia.info/regions/maluku-travel-information-banda-islands.html
Les iles Key suivent le climat des iles de la Sonde donc septembre sera excellent. Pour les iles Banda, qui suivent le climat spécifique d'Ambon, ça devrait être ok (le gros des pluies sera passé).
Bonjour Mistig,
A mon avis faire les kai+banda en 18 jours c'est faisable mais très speed au vue de difficulté de transport. Personnellement j'aime pas courir je préfère voir moins mais bien, mais c'est une philosophie que on peut se permettre quand on as du temps..
Le plus de Kei: accès relativement facile avec plusieurs vols par jours depuis ambon, mais une semaine peut être suffisante pour la découvrir
le moins des Banda c'est la difficulté pour y arriver, ou bateau rapide Tulehu/bandadeira 3 fois par semaine, ou de Kei une nuit de Pelni deux fois par mois.
Je pense aussi que le tourisme aux Key vas se développer plus doucement car le îles ont beaucoup d'autres ressources mais au Banda on sent bien que sa vas se développer, et ce que les as préservé jusqu’à maintenant c'est justement la difficulté d’accès.
Choix donc pas facile, mais tu as du temps devant toi.
Merci encore a Lolo pour les info précédentes.
En voici une mais ça ne présente guère d'intérêt car les Banda sont trop petites.
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Mieux vaut des cartes séparées: s663.photobucket.com/...banda-Neira.jpg.html
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Mieux vaut des cartes séparées: s663.photobucket.com/...banda-Neira.jpg.html
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Merci pour les liens.
Pour résumer et si j'ai bien compris:
vol de Paris à Jakarta
vol de Jakarta à Ambon
vol Ambon vers Key Kecil
Pas de vol direct Jakarta vers Kai Kecil ?
Je cherche si il existe un vol direct depuis Singapour vers Kai Kecil pour nous éviter 1 vol de plus mais...?
L' endroit idéal (beauté, paysage, couché de soleil, situation et accueil) pour se poser en villégiature quelques jours pour ensuite graviter en scooter pour découvrir Kecil ? Privilégier la côte est ou Ouest ? Nous ferons sans doute sur chacune des 2 îles, 2 lieux différents de villégiatures.
Idem pour Besar ?
Si vous avez des adresses de guest house accueillante, propre, bien située qui n'ont pas de pub sur le net: n'hésitez pas
Pas de vol direct Jakarta vers Kai Kecil ?
Je cherche si il existe un vol direct depuis Singapour vers Kai Kecil pour nous éviter 1 vol de plus mais...?
L' endroit idéal (beauté, paysage, couché de soleil, situation et accueil) pour se poser en villégiature quelques jours pour ensuite graviter en scooter pour découvrir Kecil ? Privilégier la côte est ou Ouest ? Nous ferons sans doute sur chacune des 2 îles, 2 lieux différents de villégiatures.
Idem pour Besar ?
Si vous avez des adresses de guest house accueillante, propre, bien située qui n'ont pas de pub sur le net: n'hésitez pas
Bonjour
Les vols pour Tual (iles Kei) sont via Ambon et l'aéroport d'Ambon n'est pas international donc c'est via Jakarta ou Makassar (et dans ce cas via Kuala Lumpur c'est le mieux avec Air Asia).
Kei Kecil est à privilégier pour le repos, les belles en scooter, l'offre d'hébergement etc... Kei Kecil ça se passe (surtout) sur la côte ouest, Pasir Panjang la plage la plus connue, est une bonne base pour rayonner sur toute l'île qui est effectivement Kecil (petite). On peut aussi séjourner au nord sur Ohoidertawun (baie genre Mont Saint Michel mais d'une blancheur de sable absolue), ou également au sud sur Ohoidertutu : plage de rêve parait-il, je n'ai pas pu y aller à cause des pluies torrentielles de janvier, mais ça a l'air prometteur sur google images.... pour les mêmes raisons je n'ai pas pu aller à Kei Besar (trop grosses vagues) mais ce que j'en sais est que c'est nettement plus roots (pas de touristes, peu d'offres d'hébergements, etc... mais bon un petit peu d'aventure ça mettra du piment dans le voyage 🙂 ).
Côté hébergements j'avais séjourné 2 nuits au Coaster Cottage, superbe mais c'était un peu trop cher pour moi, après j'avais pris une petite guesthouse locale toujours sur Pasir Panjang. L'offre d'hébergements a dû augmenter depuis mon séjour car il y a un gros effort de communication pour attirer la classe moyenne / sup de Jakarta.
J'avais loué mon scooter en ville dès ma descente d'avion à Tual, histoire d'être indépendant dès le premier jour. Peut-être maintenant ils en louent sur Pasir Panjang...
Pasir Panjang le jour de l'an 2010 (le seul jour où j'ai eu du soleil!)

Kei Kecil est à privilégier pour le repos, les belles en scooter, l'offre d'hébergement etc... Kei Kecil ça se passe (surtout) sur la côte ouest, Pasir Panjang la plage la plus connue, est une bonne base pour rayonner sur toute l'île qui est effectivement Kecil (petite). On peut aussi séjourner au nord sur Ohoidertawun (baie genre Mont Saint Michel mais d'une blancheur de sable absolue), ou également au sud sur Ohoidertutu : plage de rêve parait-il, je n'ai pas pu y aller à cause des pluies torrentielles de janvier, mais ça a l'air prometteur sur google images.... pour les mêmes raisons je n'ai pas pu aller à Kei Besar (trop grosses vagues) mais ce que j'en sais est que c'est nettement plus roots (pas de touristes, peu d'offres d'hébergements, etc... mais bon un petit peu d'aventure ça mettra du piment dans le voyage 🙂 ).
Côté hébergements j'avais séjourné 2 nuits au Coaster Cottage, superbe mais c'était un peu trop cher pour moi, après j'avais pris une petite guesthouse locale toujours sur Pasir Panjang. L'offre d'hébergements a dû augmenter depuis mon séjour car il y a un gros effort de communication pour attirer la classe moyenne / sup de Jakarta.
J'avais loué mon scooter en ville dès ma descente d'avion à Tual, histoire d'être indépendant dès le premier jour. Peut-être maintenant ils en louent sur Pasir Panjang...
Pasir Panjang le jour de l'an 2010 (le seul jour où j'ai eu du soleil!)

Magnifique mais ils n' ont pas utilisé la dynamite à gogo dans ce coin aussi et ravager les coraux ?
"Certes, un rêve de beignet, c'est un rêve, pas un beignet. Mais un rêve de voyage, c'est déjà un voyage". Marek Halter
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
« Les montagnes sont des géants assoupis. (...) Peut-être que nous ne sommes que leur rêve, un rêve de la terre somnolente » Théodore Roszak
C'est probable mais je ne peux pas l'affirmer. Les Kei sont réputées pour les plages magnifiques mais pas pour les fonds marins.
Tout dépend des priorités de chacun, mais si effectivement la qualité des fonds est prioritaire, il vaut mieux aller aux iles Banda.
En tout cas, vos partages donnent vraiment envie ... 🙂🙂🙂 Merci à tous !
Je pense de plus en plus, que je retournerai aux Moluques, j'ai manqué trop d’îles 🤪😮
Je viens de regarder rapidement Airasia, on trouve des _Kuala Lumpur Makassar pour 225MYR aller et 250MYR retour soit dans les 590MYR AR avec les bagages (environ 130€ l'AR Kuala Lumpur Makassar). Mais peut etre y a t'il de meilleures promos?
Par contre après, pour aller de Makassar à Ambon, pour les vols Makassar-Ambon je n'ai pas trouvé moins cher que 80€ l'aller simple sur LionAir... 😕 Est ce que les vols Makassar Ambon sont vraiment tous dans ces prix, dans les 160€ l'AR ? 😕 🏴☠️ Y a pas moins cher? (Exemple de recherche Makassar Ambon sur Skyscanner) www.skyscanner.fr/
Sinon en regardant les pelnis, il y a le KM NGGAPULU qui fait MAKASSAR - BAU-BAU - AMBON en 1 jour et demi, part de Makassar à 4.00 am et arrive à Ambon à 20.00 le lendemain une fois tous les 15jours. Et ce meme pelni KM NGGAPULU continue normalement sa route de Ambon à Banda Neira puis Tual.
Rute : MAKASSAR - BAU-BAU - AMBON - BANDA NAIRA - TUAL
Berangkat: 25-02-2017 | 04:00Tiba: 27-02-2017 | 22:00 Départ de Makassar le 25fev à 4.00AM et arrivé à Tual le 27fev à 22.00. Mais il y a quand meme 2 nuits à passer sur le pelni! 😕 (Et sur le site de la pelni, je n'arrive pas à avoir de prix autrement qu'en première classe? )www.pelni.co.id/...on/schedule/?lang=en
Ai Ai Ai, 😕 donc on n'a le choix qu'entre des vols intéreieurs relativement chers, ou deux jours de ferry sur un pelni... Bref à première vue, les kais ou les Bandas se méritent... 😕
Je viens de regarder rapidement Airasia, on trouve des _Kuala Lumpur Makassar pour 225MYR aller et 250MYR retour soit dans les 590MYR AR avec les bagages (environ 130€ l'AR Kuala Lumpur Makassar). Mais peut etre y a t'il de meilleures promos?
Par contre après, pour aller de Makassar à Ambon, pour les vols Makassar-Ambon je n'ai pas trouvé moins cher que 80€ l'aller simple sur LionAir... 😕 Est ce que les vols Makassar Ambon sont vraiment tous dans ces prix, dans les 160€ l'AR ? 😕 🏴☠️ Y a pas moins cher? (Exemple de recherche Makassar Ambon sur Skyscanner) www.skyscanner.fr/
Sinon en regardant les pelnis, il y a le KM NGGAPULU qui fait MAKASSAR - BAU-BAU - AMBON en 1 jour et demi, part de Makassar à 4.00 am et arrive à Ambon à 20.00 le lendemain une fois tous les 15jours. Et ce meme pelni KM NGGAPULU continue normalement sa route de Ambon à Banda Neira puis Tual.
Rute : MAKASSAR - BAU-BAU - AMBON - BANDA NAIRA - TUAL
Berangkat: 25-02-2017 | 04:00Tiba: 27-02-2017 | 22:00 Départ de Makassar le 25fev à 4.00AM et arrivé à Tual le 27fev à 22.00. Mais il y a quand meme 2 nuits à passer sur le pelni! 😕 (Et sur le site de la pelni, je n'arrive pas à avoir de prix autrement qu'en première classe? )www.pelni.co.id/...on/schedule/?lang=en
Ai Ai Ai, 😕 donc on n'a le choix qu'entre des vols intéreieurs relativement chers, ou deux jours de ferry sur un pelni... Bref à première vue, les kais ou les Bandas se méritent... 😕
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
Skyscanner est super, je l'utilise souvent, mais pour les vols en Asie du Sud-Est, www.tiket2.com est plus complet je trouve.
D'autre part, il y a eu pas mal de nettoyage dans les compagnies aériennes ces dernières années, Lion Air ayant tué quasiment tous ses concurrents. En gros Air Asia, Lion Air et Garuda se partagent l'Indonésie (Garuda est en général plus cher). Du coup en allant sur les sites de ces compagnies ont peut aussi chercher la meilleure date pour payer le moins cher.
Enfin, sur les lignes que tu cites, il n'y a pas de concurrence. Air Asia a un quasi monopole sur le Kuala Lumpur Makassar, les billets sont toujours beaucoup plus chers que les Kuala Lumpur Bali et pourtant le temps de vol est le même. Quant aux Moluques, il y avait Express Air, tué par Lion Air, Merpati, tué aussi par le Lion, du coup Lion Air (et ses filiales Batik et Wings) ont là aussi réussi à avoir un quasi-monopole sur les Moluques (Garuda n'ayant plus que les miettes)... en.wikipedia.org/...nes_and_destinations
D'autre part, il y a eu pas mal de nettoyage dans les compagnies aériennes ces dernières années, Lion Air ayant tué quasiment tous ses concurrents. En gros Air Asia, Lion Air et Garuda se partagent l'Indonésie (Garuda est en général plus cher). Du coup en allant sur les sites de ces compagnies ont peut aussi chercher la meilleure date pour payer le moins cher.
Enfin, sur les lignes que tu cites, il n'y a pas de concurrence. Air Asia a un quasi monopole sur le Kuala Lumpur Makassar, les billets sont toujours beaucoup plus chers que les Kuala Lumpur Bali et pourtant le temps de vol est le même. Quant aux Moluques, il y avait Express Air, tué par Lion Air, Merpati, tué aussi par le Lion, du coup Lion Air (et ses filiales Batik et Wings) ont là aussi réussi à avoir un quasi-monopole sur les Moluques (Garuda n'ayant plus que les miettes)... en.wikipedia.org/...nes_and_destinations
Je remercie Sandrasia pour ton retour sur les Moluques🙂 Et Loic pour cette photo Pasir Panjang, ça donne vraiment envie 🙂😮
Merci encore Loïc pour toutes ces infos. Je viens de regarder www.tiket2.com pour l'itinéraire qu'à fait Sandrasia: Jakarta-Ambon-Tual et je l'ai comparer à Makassar Tual
Vol Jakarta Ambon ou Jakarta Tual pour Jakarta Ambon Aller simple, J'ai trouvé rien de moins cher que 1 058 000 Rp (75€) , en partant à 1h30 du matin de Jakarta! 🙁 (sinon c'est 1500 000Rp) et pour Jakarta Ambon Tual Aller simple 2 300 000Rp (165€) avec un stop de 2h à Ambon. 08:15 CGK → AMQ → LUV 17:20
Makassar Tual Pour le vol Makassar Tual, j'ai trouvé 1 270 000Rp; 90€ par Lionair Depart de Makassar à midi, escale à Ambon, arrivé à 17h à Tual (12:10 UPG → AMQ → LUV 17:30 ) Ce vol pour Tual au départ d'Ujung Pandang (Makassar), me parait d'un prix très raisonnable 🙂 (merci Loïc 😉
Du coup je ne sais pas ce qui peut etre le plus pratique et le moins cher: Paris Kuala Lumpur Makassar Tual OU Paris Jakarta Ambon Tual ??? 😕 Mais à la vue de ces premiers éléments, le Makassar Tual AS pour 90€ avec Lionair me parait intéressant, meme si il faut rajouter un Kuala Lumpur Makassar à 65€ AS (il y a assez souvent des Paris Kuala Lumpur AR pour 450€ comme sur la British Airways (escale à Londres H) ou ...).
En résumer, pour m'aider à faire un choix, il faut compter dans les 600€ minimum pour un Paris Makassar (via Kuala Lumpur et en y faisant un stop puis en prenant un autre vol Airasia KL Makassar le plus souvent un autre jour sinon c'est souvent plus cher). (Mais KL est aussi une bonne base pour rayonner ensuite dans les autres pays ASE) Mais on trouve aussi des Paris Jakarta AR dans les 520€ comme par exemple sur la Cathay Pacific Aller 12 septembre retour 9 novembre (19h de vol une escale HKG) https://www.skyscanner.fr/transport/vols/pari/cgki/170912/171109/tarifs-de-paris-a-jakarta-en-septembre-2017-et-novembre-2017.html?adults=1&children=0&adultsv2=1&childrenv2=&infants=0&cabinclass=economy&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&ref=day-view#results
ou 600€ comme dans la simulation ci dessous aller12 sept 2017 retrour 27dec 2017 sur la thaiAirways avec escale à Bangkok (17h de vol au total) https://www.skyscanner.fr/transport/vols/pari/cgki/170912/171227/tarifs-de-paris-a-jakarta-en-septembre-2017-et-decembre-2017.html?adults=1&children=0&adultsv2=1&childrenv2=&infants=0&cabinclass=economy&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&ref=day-view#results
& Loïc quelle option avais tu retenue pour te rendre aux iles Kai ? 😉
Merci encore Loïc pour toutes ces infos. Je viens de regarder www.tiket2.com pour l'itinéraire qu'à fait Sandrasia: Jakarta-Ambon-Tual et je l'ai comparer à Makassar Tual
Vol Jakarta Ambon ou Jakarta Tual pour Jakarta Ambon Aller simple, J'ai trouvé rien de moins cher que 1 058 000 Rp (75€) , en partant à 1h30 du matin de Jakarta! 🙁 (sinon c'est 1500 000Rp) et pour Jakarta Ambon Tual Aller simple 2 300 000Rp (165€) avec un stop de 2h à Ambon. 08:15 CGK → AMQ → LUV 17:20
Makassar Tual Pour le vol Makassar Tual, j'ai trouvé 1 270 000Rp; 90€ par Lionair Depart de Makassar à midi, escale à Ambon, arrivé à 17h à Tual (12:10 UPG → AMQ → LUV 17:30 ) Ce vol pour Tual au départ d'Ujung Pandang (Makassar), me parait d'un prix très raisonnable 🙂 (merci Loïc 😉
Du coup je ne sais pas ce qui peut etre le plus pratique et le moins cher: Paris Kuala Lumpur Makassar Tual OU Paris Jakarta Ambon Tual ??? 😕 Mais à la vue de ces premiers éléments, le Makassar Tual AS pour 90€ avec Lionair me parait intéressant, meme si il faut rajouter un Kuala Lumpur Makassar à 65€ AS (il y a assez souvent des Paris Kuala Lumpur AR pour 450€ comme sur la British Airways (escale à Londres H) ou ...).
En résumer, pour m'aider à faire un choix, il faut compter dans les 600€ minimum pour un Paris Makassar (via Kuala Lumpur et en y faisant un stop puis en prenant un autre vol Airasia KL Makassar le plus souvent un autre jour sinon c'est souvent plus cher). (Mais KL est aussi une bonne base pour rayonner ensuite dans les autres pays ASE) Mais on trouve aussi des Paris Jakarta AR dans les 520€ comme par exemple sur la Cathay Pacific Aller 12 septembre retour 9 novembre (19h de vol une escale HKG) https://www.skyscanner.fr/transport/vols/pari/cgki/170912/171109/tarifs-de-paris-a-jakarta-en-septembre-2017-et-novembre-2017.html?adults=1&children=0&adultsv2=1&childrenv2=&infants=0&cabinclass=economy&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&ref=day-view#results
ou 600€ comme dans la simulation ci dessous aller12 sept 2017 retrour 27dec 2017 sur la thaiAirways avec escale à Bangkok (17h de vol au total) https://www.skyscanner.fr/transport/vols/pari/cgki/170912/171227/tarifs-de-paris-a-jakarta-en-septembre-2017-et-decembre-2017.html?adults=1&children=0&adultsv2=1&childrenv2=&infants=0&cabinclass=economy&rtn=1&preferdirects=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&inboundaltsenabled=false&ref=day-view#results
& Loïc quelle option avais tu retenue pour te rendre aux iles Kai ? 😉
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
selamat pagi JF
Je ne passe jamais par Jakarta, pas intéressant. Les vols Europe Jakarta sont plus chers car fréquentés par les hommes d'affaires (et les vols Europe Bali par le touristes 😉).
Il faut prendre Kuala Lumpur. Actuellement Turkish Airlines casse les prix, je décolle le 26/2 je n'ai payé que 470€ le Lyon Kuala Lumpur aller retour. Et en novembre dernier 20€ de + en partant de Lyon et en revenant à Paris au retour (billet multi-city). Je réserve en direct sur le site de la compagnie, c'est 20-30€ de plus que les revendeurs genre Opodo mais ces derniers te rajoutent toujours leurs frais de dossier à la dernière étape, au moment du règlement. Et puis en prenant le billet directement à Turkish, j'ai une vraie hotline en cas de problème et non un standard injoignable. Bon évidemment ces infos sont valables pour cet hiver, je ne sais pas ce qu'il en sera dans quelques mois, peut-être les compagnies du Golfe Persique vont répliquer à Turkish mais en tout cas actuellement ils mettent la concurrence loin derrière (avec bons repas et 30kg de bagages).
Et donc ensuite KL - Makassar - Ambon - Tual. Moi à l'époque où j'y suis allé (2010 de mémoire) on ne pouvait pas encore acheter les billets pour Tual sur internet. J'avais du passer par mon agence de voyages sur Bali, qui m'avait mis en contact avec une agence à Ambon et j'avais du aller récupérer à Ambon mon billet Express Air écrit à la main comme au bon vieux temps 😏 Me souviens plus mais le billet devait coûter plus cher que maintenant mais la récompense c'est qu'il devait y avoir tout au plus 1 ou 2 touristes au km2 sur Pasir Panjang 😎

Je ne passe jamais par Jakarta, pas intéressant. Les vols Europe Jakarta sont plus chers car fréquentés par les hommes d'affaires (et les vols Europe Bali par le touristes 😉).
Il faut prendre Kuala Lumpur. Actuellement Turkish Airlines casse les prix, je décolle le 26/2 je n'ai payé que 470€ le Lyon Kuala Lumpur aller retour. Et en novembre dernier 20€ de + en partant de Lyon et en revenant à Paris au retour (billet multi-city). Je réserve en direct sur le site de la compagnie, c'est 20-30€ de plus que les revendeurs genre Opodo mais ces derniers te rajoutent toujours leurs frais de dossier à la dernière étape, au moment du règlement. Et puis en prenant le billet directement à Turkish, j'ai une vraie hotline en cas de problème et non un standard injoignable. Bon évidemment ces infos sont valables pour cet hiver, je ne sais pas ce qu'il en sera dans quelques mois, peut-être les compagnies du Golfe Persique vont répliquer à Turkish mais en tout cas actuellement ils mettent la concurrence loin derrière (avec bons repas et 30kg de bagages).
Et donc ensuite KL - Makassar - Ambon - Tual. Moi à l'époque où j'y suis allé (2010 de mémoire) on ne pouvait pas encore acheter les billets pour Tual sur internet. J'avais du passer par mon agence de voyages sur Bali, qui m'avait mis en contact avec une agence à Ambon et j'avais du aller récupérer à Ambon mon billet Express Air écrit à la main comme au bon vieux temps 😏 Me souviens plus mais le billet devait coûter plus cher que maintenant mais la récompense c'est qu'il devait y avoir tout au plus 1 ou 2 touristes au km2 sur Pasir Panjang 😎

Salamat sore Loïc (je suis en Thaïlande en ce moment et ici il est déjà 15h 😛 )
Aaaah Pasir panjang (sable long) et les autres plages des iles Kai, j'en rêve depuis tellement longtemps... 😮
Il faut prendre Kuala Lumpur. ... Et donc ensuite KL - Makassar - Ambon - Tual.
Oui, c'est aussi ce qu' il m'a semblé etre le plus intéressant pour nous (petits bagages, et on aime bien rayonner à partir de KL). Et les Makassar-Tual (via Ambon) a 1 200 000Rp (85€) ou 1 500 000Rp (105€) me paraissent plus abordables que les Jakarta Tual (via Ambon) à environ 2 200 000 Rp, 160€. Il faut aussi regarder le poids des bagages autorisés car les vols LionAir (ou WingAir selon le site ci dessous) semblent ne tolérer que 15 kg (ou 10kg ?) alors que Garuda 20kg.
https://en.tiket.com/pesawat/cari?d=UPG&a=LUV&date=2017-02-23&adult=1&child=0&infant=0
Loïc dans quel hotel descends tu à Ujung Pandang ? 🙂
PS: J'ai aussi regardé les vols Denpasar (Bali)-Tual (kai), mais cela m'a paru encore moins intéressant ; c'est presque toujours avec 2 escales, 😮 🤪🤪 très long (20h mini) et sans doute encore plus en réalité, et au moins aussi cher que Jakarta-Tual. (En fait tous les Denpasar-Tual passent par Makassar ou par un aéroport de Java avant d'aller à Ambon, puis Tual)
Aaaah Pasir panjang (sable long) et les autres plages des iles Kai, j'en rêve depuis tellement longtemps... 😮
Il faut prendre Kuala Lumpur. ... Et donc ensuite KL - Makassar - Ambon - Tual.
Oui, c'est aussi ce qu' il m'a semblé etre le plus intéressant pour nous (petits bagages, et on aime bien rayonner à partir de KL). Et les Makassar-Tual (via Ambon) a 1 200 000Rp (85€) ou 1 500 000Rp (105€) me paraissent plus abordables que les Jakarta Tual (via Ambon) à environ 2 200 000 Rp, 160€. Il faut aussi regarder le poids des bagages autorisés car les vols LionAir (ou WingAir selon le site ci dessous) semblent ne tolérer que 15 kg (ou 10kg ?) alors que Garuda 20kg.
https://en.tiket.com/pesawat/cari?d=UPG&a=LUV&date=2017-02-23&adult=1&child=0&infant=0
Loïc dans quel hotel descends tu à Ujung Pandang ? 🙂
PS: J'ai aussi regardé les vols Denpasar (Bali)-Tual (kai), mais cela m'a paru encore moins intéressant ; c'est presque toujours avec 2 escales, 😮 🤪🤪 très long (20h mini) et sans doute encore plus en réalité, et au moins aussi cher que Jakarta-Tual. (En fait tous les Denpasar-Tual passent par Makassar ou par un aéroport de Java avant d'aller à Ambon, puis Tual)
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
Salamat sore Loïc (je suis en Thaïlande en ce moment et ici il est déjà 15h 😛 )
Sawadikaaaaa 🙂
Il faut aussi regarder le poids des bagages autorisés car les vols LionAir (ou WingAir selon le site ci dessous) semblent ne tolérer que 15 kg (ou 10kg ?) alors que Garuda 20kg.
Oui c'est variable, ça dépend de l'avion utilisé, c'est indiqué au moment de la réservation.
Loïc dans quel hotel descends tu à Ujung Pandang ? 🙂
Au Lestari, celui qui jalan Savu (c'est une rue minuscule, les chauffeurs de taxi ne savent pas où elle est, il faut dire à côté de jalan Lombok). Chambres avec clim 150 à 180.000. Les chambres n'ont pas de fenêtres mais moi dans les grandes villes je préf��re car du coup c'est hyper silencieux. Je ne réserve jamais à l'avance, ils ont toujours des places. Ils sont en train de le rénover j'espère que les prix ne vont pas augmenter?
PS: J'ai aussi regardé les vols Denpasar (Bali)-Tual (kai), mais cela m'a paru encore moins intéressant ; c'est presque toujours avec 2 escales, 😮 🤪🤪 très long (20h mini) et sans doute encore plus en réalité, et au moins aussi cher que Jakarta-Tual.
En même temps, si un jour tu viens me voir à Lyon depuis Guéret, tu vas pas passer par Montpellier hein? 😏😏
Sawadikaaaaa 🙂
Il faut aussi regarder le poids des bagages autorisés car les vols LionAir (ou WingAir selon le site ci dessous) semblent ne tolérer que 15 kg (ou 10kg ?) alors que Garuda 20kg.
Oui c'est variable, ça dépend de l'avion utilisé, c'est indiqué au moment de la réservation.
Loïc dans quel hotel descends tu à Ujung Pandang ? 🙂
Au Lestari, celui qui jalan Savu (c'est une rue minuscule, les chauffeurs de taxi ne savent pas où elle est, il faut dire à côté de jalan Lombok). Chambres avec clim 150 à 180.000. Les chambres n'ont pas de fenêtres mais moi dans les grandes villes je préf��re car du coup c'est hyper silencieux. Je ne réserve jamais à l'avance, ils ont toujours des places. Ils sont en train de le rénover j'espère que les prix ne vont pas augmenter?
PS: J'ai aussi regardé les vols Denpasar (Bali)-Tual (kai), mais cela m'a paru encore moins intéressant ; c'est presque toujours avec 2 escales, 😮 🤪🤪 très long (20h mini) et sans doute encore plus en réalité, et au moins aussi cher que Jakarta-Tual.
En même temps, si un jour tu viens me voir à Lyon depuis Guéret, tu vas pas passer par Montpellier hein? 😏😏
Salamat Pagi Loïc, Terima kasih
Merci bien pour toutes ces infos sur les moluques. Je ne sais pas quand on retournera en Asie la prochaine fois (2017, 2018...) mais là je suis décidé! La prochaine fois on commencera par les Moluques à notre séjour en ASE et au moins 2 mois 😎😎😎 en commençant par les Kais. Peut etre qu'on ne fera que les Kai et les Bandas.😉
J'ai bien vu le problème du climat, différent suivant les iles Kai ou Bandas, on essaiera probablement octobre novembre. En 1998, je ne me souviens que d'une seule journée de pluie en octobre aux Bandas, sur 2 ou 3 semaines 🙂
Amitié A plus🙂
PS: Et j'avais bien aimé les Bandas. Des iles pleines d'histoires et un snorkeling extrat 🙂
Merci bien pour toutes ces infos sur les moluques. Je ne sais pas quand on retournera en Asie la prochaine fois (2017, 2018...) mais là je suis décidé! La prochaine fois on commencera par les Moluques à notre séjour en ASE et au moins 2 mois 😎😎😎 en commençant par les Kais. Peut etre qu'on ne fera que les Kai et les Bandas.😉
J'ai bien vu le problème du climat, différent suivant les iles Kai ou Bandas, on essaiera probablement octobre novembre. En 1998, je ne me souviens que d'une seule journée de pluie en octobre aux Bandas, sur 2 ou 3 semaines 🙂
Amitié A plus🙂
PS: Et j'avais bien aimé les Bandas. Des iles pleines d'histoires et un snorkeling extrat 🙂
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
selamat pagi JF
Moi aussi je voudrais retourner aux Kei sur un mois de novembre (2017 peut-être?) car les Kei en janvier c'était la cata 🙁
Octobre-novembre sont justement les meilleurs mois (d'après les habitants), mais c'est aussi la haute saison pour le tourisme local (hé oui la classe moyenne indonésienne a de + en + les moyens de voyager et il faut en tenir compte, d'autant plus que Lion Air a mis les Kei à quelques heures de Jakarta).
Histoire de te donner encore plus envie, cherches les comptes "Baronda Maluku" sur facebook et "Ilham Arch" sur Instagram qui diffusent de magnifiques photos et extraits vidéos d'endroits totalement inconnus des guides papier (ça fait des années que j'ai abandonné le Lonelyplanet Indonésie, il n'est valable que pour ceux qui aiment les musées et les vieilles pierres).
Bien amicalement
Loic
Moi aussi je voudrais retourner aux Kei sur un mois de novembre (2017 peut-être?) car les Kei en janvier c'était la cata 🙁
Octobre-novembre sont justement les meilleurs mois (d'après les habitants), mais c'est aussi la haute saison pour le tourisme local (hé oui la classe moyenne indonésienne a de + en + les moyens de voyager et il faut en tenir compte, d'autant plus que Lion Air a mis les Kei à quelques heures de Jakarta).
Histoire de te donner encore plus envie, cherches les comptes "Baronda Maluku" sur facebook et "Ilham Arch" sur Instagram qui diffusent de magnifiques photos et extraits vidéos d'endroits totalement inconnus des guides papier (ça fait des années que j'ai abandonné le Lonelyplanet Indonésie, il n'est valable que pour ceux qui aiment les musées et les vieilles pierres).
Bien amicalement
Loic
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Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.





