Où passer sa retraite, la meilleure formule?
by Krisreunion
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Entre Madagascar, l'ile Maurice ile Rodrigues ou Le Portugal, la Corse, Grèce ...quel est la meilleure formule pour un retraité avec une très faible retraite dans les 10 ans à venir ?
kris Nama
Si c est vraiment tres faible retraite, alors Mada est surement le meilleur choix. Encore faut il savoir ce que signifie faible retraite pour vous car tout le monde n'a pas la même appréciation.
Mais Mada, il faut vouloir et aimer y vivre car parmi les pays listés, c est le seul pays pauvre.
Rien de comparable donc entre Corse, Grèce, Portugal, Maurice et Mada. Rien du tout.
Maurice, avec une faible retraite, je ne pense pas que ce soit même possible au sens ou vous n aurez pas le visa et déjà pour se loger, ce sera la croix et la bannière. Alors y vivre. Maurice visant et facilitant la vie surtout aux hauts revenus.
Donc Mada, c est bien possible. Les loyers sont tres bas, le cout de la vie aussi. Mais apres les infrastructures sont à la même mesure, pour ce qui concerne la santé, c est loin de la moyenne des standards etc. Alors pour qui aime, cela peut etre tres bien et effectivement on peut y vivre avec pas grand chose et bcp le font d ailleurs, en particulier à Diego Suarez qui est un "spot" de retraités français disposant de faibles entrées d'argent. Mais il faut juste aimer ce type de pays, ce qui est peut etre votre cas.
Mais Mada, il faut vouloir et aimer y vivre car parmi les pays listés, c est le seul pays pauvre.
Rien de comparable donc entre Corse, Grèce, Portugal, Maurice et Mada. Rien du tout.
Maurice, avec une faible retraite, je ne pense pas que ce soit même possible au sens ou vous n aurez pas le visa et déjà pour se loger, ce sera la croix et la bannière. Alors y vivre. Maurice visant et facilitant la vie surtout aux hauts revenus.
Donc Mada, c est bien possible. Les loyers sont tres bas, le cout de la vie aussi. Mais apres les infrastructures sont à la même mesure, pour ce qui concerne la santé, c est loin de la moyenne des standards etc. Alors pour qui aime, cela peut etre tres bien et effectivement on peut y vivre avec pas grand chose et bcp le font d ailleurs, en particulier à Diego Suarez qui est un "spot" de retraités français disposant de faibles entrées d'argent. Mais il faut juste aimer ce type de pays, ce qui est peut etre votre cas.
Je vais peut être surprendre, mais quand on a une très petite retraite, j' entends par là, moins de 800 €/mois, il vaut mieux rester en France.
Même si notre modèle social est actuellement fortement attaqué, demeurent quand même le minimum vieillesse, les soins pour tous, les APL et le recours aux assistantes sociales en cas de forte détresse.
Parmi les Pays cités, Madagascar est certainement le moins cher.
Il faut néanmoins, un visa de longue durée, plus de 500 € pour 2 ans, une assurance rapatriement sanitaire me semble conseillée. Le consulat général peut apporter des aides très réduites, mais il fait avoir moins de 200 € mensuels, à ce que j' ai pu lire dernièrement.
Alors Madagascar peut être, en étant sûr de ne pas être malade ! Il faut bien penser qu 'il est difficile, pour un européen, même avec des capacités d' adaptation, de vivre comme les malgaches.
Salama,
Oui bonjour et merci de votre message. Je suis sur La Réunion et une certaine connaissance de Mada depuis 25 ans...Certes un pays encore trop difficile à "vivre" pour un caucasien, âgé ! Et l'ile Rodrigues maybe ...
Oui bonjour et merci de votre message. Je suis sur La Réunion et une certaine connaissance de Mada depuis 25 ans...Certes un pays encore trop difficile à "vivre" pour un caucasien, âgé ! Et l'ile Rodrigues maybe ...
kris Nama
Salama,
Oui bonjour et merci de votre message. Je suis sur La Réunion et une certaine connaissance de Mada depuis 25 ans...Certes un pays encore trop difficile à "vivre" pour un caucasien, âgé ! Et l'ile Rodrigues maybe ...
Bonjour, Je connais assez bien Madagascar, j' y ai vécu quelques années, j' y vais régulièrement en vacances, je ne dirai pas que c' est un Pays difficile à vivre quand on a les moyens suffisants. Je suis rentré sur la Réunion, pour des raisons de santé. J' ai connu trop de français qui sont morts là bas, faute de soins. Et j' ai répondu à votre question en incluant le fait d' avoir de faibles revenus. Je ne connais pas bien les conditions d' obtention de visa longue durée pour Maurice/Rodrigues, mais le coût de la vie est plus élevé qu ' à Madagascar et comme le disait Rotsaka, au moins au point de vue touristique, ils visent le haut de gamme et ça ne leur réussi pas mal.
Oui bonjour et merci de votre message. Je suis sur La Réunion et une certaine connaissance de Mada depuis 25 ans...Certes un pays encore trop difficile à "vivre" pour un caucasien, âgé ! Et l'ile Rodrigues maybe ...
Bonjour, Je connais assez bien Madagascar, j' y ai vécu quelques années, j' y vais régulièrement en vacances, je ne dirai pas que c' est un Pays difficile à vivre quand on a les moyens suffisants. Je suis rentré sur la Réunion, pour des raisons de santé. J' ai connu trop de français qui sont morts là bas, faute de soins. Et j' ai répondu à votre question en incluant le fait d' avoir de faibles revenus. Je ne connais pas bien les conditions d' obtention de visa longue durée pour Maurice/Rodrigues, mais le coût de la vie est plus élevé qu ' à Madagascar et comme le disait Rotsaka, au moins au point de vue touristique, ils visent le haut de gamme et ça ne leur réussi pas mal.
A priori les conditions pour devenir résident retraité à Rodrigues ne seront pas très différentes de celles de Maurice. Si pas exactement les mêmes. Rodrigues a une certaine autonomie vis à vis de Maurice mais je ne sais pas si cela va jusqu'aux démarches d'immigration.
Si les mêmes qu'à Maurice, il n est pas possible d'y vivre sans disposer de certains moyens. Cf http://www.retraitesansfrontieres.fr/destinations/ile-maurice/demarches/
Selon moi, si on peut mettre 30 000 USD sur un compte mauricien chaque année ou acheter une des maisons ou appart des programmes immobiliers ouverts aux étrangers, on ne dispose pas d'une retraite faible.
A vérifier donc si Rodrigues est dans le même panier que sa tutelle mauricienne.
Ensuite y passer sa retraite, why not, mais c est tt de meme une mini mini ile avec seulement 45 000 habitants et il faut aimer.
Pourquoi ne pas passer la retraite à La Réunion ?
Si les mêmes qu'à Maurice, il n est pas possible d'y vivre sans disposer de certains moyens. Cf http://www.retraitesansfrontieres.fr/destinations/ile-maurice/demarches/
Selon moi, si on peut mettre 30 000 USD sur un compte mauricien chaque année ou acheter une des maisons ou appart des programmes immobiliers ouverts aux étrangers, on ne dispose pas d'une retraite faible.
A vérifier donc si Rodrigues est dans le même panier que sa tutelle mauricienne.
Ensuite y passer sa retraite, why not, mais c est tt de meme une mini mini ile avec seulement 45 000 habitants et il faut aimer.
Pourquoi ne pas passer la retraite à La Réunion ?
Je comprends bien votre question Vivre à La Réunion à la retraite. Je crains que l'augmentation de la population sur ce "petit" caillou soit aussi compliqué et onéreux. Pour les 10 prochaines années.
Je lis que vous avez une certaine connaissance des lieux Maurice Mada... Merci de votre collaboration. A méditer 5 mois à Rodrigue 5 mois à Nosy Be et 2 mois à La Réunion ( en camping car) ;-)
Je lis que vous avez une certaine connaissance des lieux Maurice Mada... Merci de votre collaboration. A méditer 5 mois à Rodrigue 5 mois à Nosy Be et 2 mois à La Réunion ( en camping car) ;-)
kris Nama
salut kris
d abord il faut savoir si les pays ont envie de vous recevoir permis de residence? il faut probablement avancer les sous
il est bien connu que les anciennes colonies francaises sont hyper cheres pour y vivre
avec une petite retraite on a vite fait de faire petits blancs
l asie du sud est est probablement une option ou le senegal ou de nombreux retraites sont installes dans des residences genre camps retranches gaulois
de nombreux retraites sont installes en thailande mais bon c est anglophone
donc on ne peut pas decider sans savoir les conditions de residence et quid des soins medicaux quand on vieillit
Si on croit pouvoir se passer des services de santé c'est à Mada qu'il faut aller...On peut toujours se faire rapatrier à la Réunion au cas où mais pour un de mes potes ça n'a pas été concluant car il est mort à l'hopital de St Denis! Il avait été soi- disant mordu par un scolopendre à Foulpointe... à moins qu'il ait été empoisonné?
Son fils s'est marié avec une Malgache et vit à Belo/mer. Le mien s'est installé à Mayotte et ma fille à la Réunion.
Son fils s'est marié avec une Malgache et vit à Belo/mer.
Philippe au Dauphin ?
Morsure de scolopendre mal soignée malheureusement, infection ou choc anaphylactique, car normalement c est douloureux mais pas mortel. Ou effectivement autre cause telle une belle famille avide ou un voisin envieux...
Philippe au Dauphin ?
Morsure de scolopendre mal soignée malheureusement, infection ou choc anaphylactique, car normalement c est douloureux mais pas mortel. Ou effectivement autre cause telle une belle famille avide ou un voisin envieux...
merci à tous de votre réactivité et si des idées de lieu de retraite !
Bien amicalement
kris
Bien amicalement
kris
kris Nama
Philippe au Dauphin ?
Oui c'est bien lui mais ça fait des lustres que je ne suis pas allé à Mada! Il avait d'abord essayé de monter une gargote à Morondava avant de s'installer à Bélo/mer où son affaire de bungalows + balades dans la mangrove+ kayak de mer et snorkeling semble bien marcher.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AECO3BkSfQ
Ou effectivement autre cause telle une belle famille avide ou un voisin envieux...
J'y pensais mais il n'était pas encore marié ...Il était sur le point de le faire.
Oui c'est bien lui mais ça fait des lustres que je ne suis pas allé à Mada! Il avait d'abord essayé de monter une gargote à Morondava avant de s'installer à Bélo/mer où son affaire de bungalows + balades dans la mangrove+ kayak de mer et snorkeling semble bien marcher.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AECO3BkSfQ
Ou effectivement autre cause telle une belle famille avide ou un voisin envieux...
J'y pensais mais il n'était pas encore marié ...Il était sur le point de le faire.
il y a certaines nation ou le cout de la vie n est pas élevé , simplement il faut préparez cette éventualité , je dis éventualité parce que nombre de salarié n auront même cette opportunité de pouvoir vivre leur retraite ,
j ai voyager a travers toutes l union européenne , la France et la nation qui offre les meilleurs garanti dans nombre de domaine , simplement il y a des abus dans la sphère des plus puissant au plus modeste .
j ai eu l opportunité de pouvoir voyager en amérique centrale , leur mode de vie et différents de ce que nous connaissons en europe , mais ils ne plaignent pas .
j' opterai pour la morsure de scolopendre à Foulpointe.
Les malgaches ne les soignent pas, pour nous c' est différent. Si ça commence à noircir, il est urgent d' agir, antibiotiques et anti inflamatoires sont nécessaires. Les empoisonnements à Foulpointe je n' y crois pas de trop.
Les empoisonnements à Foulpointe je n' y crois pas de trop.
Moi non plus mais j'ai été étonné qu'un scolopendre puisse tuer ainsi un gars en parfaite santé très sportif après 4 mois de maladie entrainant une infection généralisée où la médecine a été impuissante .
Moi non plus mais j'ai été étonné qu'un scolopendre puisse tuer ainsi un gars en parfaite santé très sportif après 4 mois de maladie entrainant une infection généralisée où la médecine a été impuissante .
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About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
I’d like to get some information about my eligibility for the DV Lottery.
About my background: • I earned a *Bac Pro* through VAE (*Validation des Acquis de l’Expérience*), issued by the *Éducation nationale*. • I also have a professional certification as a *Conseiller en Insertion* (Employment Counselor), issued by the Ministry of Labor. • Altogether, this adds up to a *Bac+2* level.
I’d like to know if this level qualifies me to apply for the DV Lottery.
Regarding my work experience: • I work as an *Employment Counselor*. • I checked on O*Net Online for the classification: Job Zone 4, SVP Range: 7.0 – <8.0. • I only have one year of experience, but I handle similar tasks in business creation.
So my question is: can I apply for the DV Lottery despite my relatively short experience, given that my job falls under Job Zone 4?
Thanks in advance for your answers and advice! !
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I’m looking for info on villages around Aix, like Fuveau, Bouc-Bel-Air, or even Éguilles and Venelles? We’re a couple with a child living in the Paris region, and I’ll be relocating to Aix-en-Provence in spring 2026. We’d love to swap our apartment for a house with a pool within 20-30 minutes max of central Aix, with a budget of around 650k €.
In terms of climate and geography, I’ve read that Aix is in a basin where it can get really hot. What about the surrounding villages that are a bit more elevated, like Venelles? Is it just as stifling?
For a family, which area would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Starting this spring, we want to settle near Aix-en-Provence. We're tired of living in the mountains with all the snow—we really need some sunshine and a fresh start. Is it hard to find a house to rent there? What about prices? If you have any great tips or useful info about the area, we’d love to hear it. I work in education and want to do prevention work in Marseille or Aix—are there jobs in the social sector?
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Anyway, we need tons of info, but we’re sure we’re going to take the leap—no hesitation, adventure is adventure!!! Thanks for your help and any experiences you can share.
Hi,
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
I’m an osteopath and I’d like to set up and open an osteopathy practice in Thailand. I don’t have a precise location in mind yet, but I’m thinking maybe Hua Hin. I saw there’s an osteopath based in Phuket, so I wrote to him for some info, but he still hasn’t replied🤪!
So I’m reaching out to people who live there or know the country well: I’d like to know what the best ways are to advertise and get known in Thailand. Are there any local classifieds newspapers? First, I’d like to practice from my apartment. Is that allowed in Thailand? Ideally, I’d like to work part-time in a private hospital as an osteopath. I’m thinking that in Thailand, the medical field is much more open than in Europe!!! Has anyone seen an osteopath or chiropractor working in a Thai hospital? Do you know the price of a consultation?
Any info you can share will be super helpful! Thanks in advance[;)!!!]
Hello everyone,
We’re a small family from the south of France, with a 2-year-old little boy, and we’re dreaming of starting a new adventure abroad by opening our own business. For now, we haven’t chosen a specific destination yet.
We mainly speak French, with a basic level of Spanish and English, and we’re ready to improve these two languages if needed. We’re looking for a multicultural, safe country with quality healthcare and good schools accessible for our son. We’d also love a pleasant place with a mild climate where life is good.
Our idea is to travel to different countries to explore, compare, and refine our project. We’d be really happy to read your tips, experiences, or anecdotes if you’ve already undertaken a similar project or if you know key points to anticipate.
Thanks in advance for your shares and help—it would really help us move forward with our project! 😄
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Dublin as an au pair in a few weeks.
I’m looking for a reputable language school. It’s so hard to choose! Has anyone already done a language stay in Dublin? Any tips? Thanks so much! :)