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55 days with the family in the Yucatán, including a side trip to Belize...
by Scot2021 · 2025-10-19 · 34 replies


Hi everyone!

That was about all the Spanish I could speak before we left... Luckily, Tom, 15 and in high school, gets by just fine! And Caroline did a year of Duolingo before we took off... Anyway, after 55 days in the American West three years ago, it’s Mexico’s turn for this second long adventure.

A quick intro to the crew:





- Oscar, 10, a sporty and lively little boy who loves swimming and basketball, - Tom, 15, a high schooler, sporty and tall, who loves swimming and American football, - Caroline, 47, a PE teacher, sporty , loves hiking and snorkeling, - and me, Sylvain, 50, a science teacher, sporty, loves traveling and always has a possible next trip in mind

We mostly travel by swapping our house to discover beautiful France and the world: 135 swaps over the last 13 years.....

Our itinerary is pretty classic since it’s our first time in the Yucatán, and we’ll make a little 10-day detour to Belize...

See you soon...
9-Day Road Trip in the Yucatán Peninsula
by Ideesdevoyag · 2025-03-26 · 4 replies
Hi everyone, In late February to early March 2025, we were lucky enough to spend about ten days in Mexico—heading to Cancún. We then embarked on a 9-day road trip to explore the Yucatán Peninsula! Since planning a trip isn’t always easy, we’re sharing our original itinerary (different from the "classic" loop) and our feedback on the places we visited.

With a few photos to illustrate each day, we hope to wow you 🙂! Here’s our loop itinerary starting from Cancún (a packed schedule, but it let us see so much): Day 1 - Cancún’s beach and Holbox Island





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Day 2 - Holbox Island and the fishing village of Río Lagartos





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Day 3 - The Río Lagartos nature reserve, Las Coloradas salt flats, the Ek'Balam Mayan site, the church of Uayma, and the colonial city of Valladolid









Martine and DD in Colorado and Utah
by Marcalamar · 2024-12-16 · 59 replies
Hello everyone! 🙂 So many silent months, and now Voyage Forum is accessible again. That’s cool because we can pick up our discussions for our mutual enjoyment. I hope everyone is doing well and that you’ve been able to take some great trips, whether to the USA or elsewhere. In September 2020, we had planned a round trip to explore Colorado, but unfortunately, a nasty virus messed up our plans, closing borders and keeping us stuck at home. Luckily for us, canceling the car, flights, and accommodations didn’t cost us a thing—everything was refunded. In 2023, a loop from Las Vegas let us revisit places we’d seen in 2017 and discover new ones, this time spending more time at each stop with some lovely hikes. In 2024, we finally revisited the 2020 plan, and I’ll start with that. However, unforeseen circumstances mean I have much less time than before, so I’ll keep my trip reports shorter (ha ha ha—you’ll have less of my prose to endure). Another change: for those who remember the "Gang of Four crazy sixty-somethings," it was just DD and me this time. Our dear Mimi and Maumau left the Var to focus on raising horses and can’t leave their little green paradise to join us anymore. We were unfortunately much tamer without them. We traveled from September 11 to October 3.

The itinerary



Day 1: Flight Marseille-Paris-Denver, then Manitou Springs (133 km) Day 2: Manitou Springs (49 km) Day 3: Cripple Creek (104 km) Day 4: Salida (254 km) Day 5: Great Sand Dunes (231 km) Day 6: Durango (283 km) Day 7: Durango (Durango-Silverton train) Day 8: Ouray (121 km) Day 9: Ouray (Perimeter Trail hike) Day 10: Cortez (213 km) Day 11: Cortez (Mesa Verde National Park, 134 km) Day 12: Monticello (268 km, detour to Chesler Park) Day 13: Moab (171 km, Delicate Arch) Day 14: Moab (98 km, Fisher Towers) Day 15: Moab (171 km, Canyonlands) Day 16: Fruita (210 km, Colorado National Monument) Day 17: Crested Butte (224 km via Kebler Pass) Day 18: Crested Butte (57 km) Day 19: Glenwood Springs (150 km) Day 20: Glenwood Springs (118 km, Rifle State Park) Day 21: Georgetown (258 km via Independence Pass) Day 22: Denver (123 km), then return flight

We speak very little English. We spent 21 nights there and covered a 3,400 km loop by car and 160 km on foot (we’re still trying to hike while we’re in shape) from Denver in September 2024. We wanted this road trip to help us explore Colorado a bit more—we’d only spent 6 nights there in 2019—and to see it during the fall foliage season. We also wanted to return to Utah (we love Moab) to enjoy its red rocks, which we adore.

In the prices you see (some in euros, others in dollars), I’ve included bank fees and exchange charges. The flights, car, and parking were paid by credit card when we booked in February. Usually, we book around November, but some obligations kept us from doing it earlier. We downloaded the MPC (Mobile Passport Control) app on our phone, which saved us time at immigration.

📊 **Budget: just under 8,500 € for both of us, all included**

📊 **Flights** Marseille-Paris (CDG)-Denver: 2,152 € for both of us, with one checked bag each

📊 **ESTA and America the Beautiful Pass** The ones from our 2023 road trip were still valid

📊 **Parking at Marseille airport: 122 €**

📊 **Car: Nissan Rogue (the French X-Trail) from Hertz: 1,165 €** By booking through Air France (and earning miles), we got a 15% discount. Hertz offers a free Hertz Gold Plus Rewards program, which gives us priority counter service.

📊 **Accommodation: 3,050 €** We stayed in motels and hotels of various ranges (from 100 € to 270 € per night, depending on the city), all booked through Hotels.com or Booking. Booking sometimes offers cheaper rates if you book via the "Booking mobile" app. We also got some preferential rates thanks to our Genius 2 status. Out of 21 nights, only one place didn’t include breakfast.

📊 **Other expenses (activities booked by credit card before leaving)** Durango-Silverton train: 210 € (we booked the enclosed vintage coach in March) Mesa Verde: Balcony House: 15.15 € (booked 14 days before the visit) Timed-entry passes for Arches National Park: 6 € for 3 days (booked June 1 for September entries via
http://récreation.gov/). We booked three different days to play with the weather.

📊 **Supplementary insurance with AVA: 204 €** (due to our age 😅 and the high cost of medical consultations in the USA)

📊 **Cash: 1,540 €** We left with 1,000 € exchanged before departure and made two withdrawals (500 $ and 200 $). This cash was used to pay for: - Evening restaurants and tips (between 70 $ and 95 $ for two meals and two drinks) - Two state parks: Dead Horse State Park (20 $) and Rifle State Park (10 $) - The Monarch Pass gondola (24 $) - Midday picnics - Gas (slightly cheaper with cash): 204 $ for 3,400 km - Personal souvenirs and little treats.

Like in our previous road trips, we didn’t rent a GPS. We used the offline GPS app Here We Go, for which we’d downloaded maps of Colorado and Utah from France, as well as a new offline app called Organic Maps as a backup—though we didn’t end up needing it.

❤️❤️❤️ **Highlights (there are so many!)** 📍 The stunning landscapes of Colorado, especially with the fall colors 📍 A step back in time at the old farm in Florissant Fossil Beds National Monument 📍 The prairies of Cripple Creek and the mining remnants of the Vindicator Trail 📍 The cheeky chipmunks in the ghost town of St. Elmo 📍 Great Sand Dunes and its soft sand 📍 The steam train between Durango and Silverton: we’re glad we chose the round-trip because it rained heavily on the way there, but we got to enjoy the scenery on the way back when the sun came out 📍 The unexpected meet-up with Michèle from the group outside a restaurant in Durango 📍 The hot springs in Ouray 📍 Mesa Verde and its still-vibrant past 📍 The red rocks of Moab and Delicate Arch at sunset 📍 The lace-like Fisher Towers and the view from the end of the trail 📍 The gorgeous Route 128 leading to Colorado National Monument—small, easy to visit, and so beautiful 📍 The colors of the fabulous Kebler Pass, Crested Butte, and especially the hike through the golden aspens (Lower and Upper Loop) 📍 The waterfalls at Rifle State Park 📍 The tundra of Independence Pass 📍 The Halloween decorations in Georgetown and Idaho Springs

😞😞 **Flops (there are very few!)** 📍 The viewpoints we missed because they weren’t well-marked or we didn’t see the signs 📍 The closure of some hiking trails (Hanging Lake and parts of Canyonlands) and the Sal Mountain Loop road, which kept us from accessing it 📍😢 The Chesler Park hike we had to cut short due to poor time management—180 km between our stop in Cortez meant we didn’t arrive until 10:30 AM, way too late for a 17 km hike.

Hope this helps! Have a great evening, everyone, and see you soon! 😊
Southwest Part 2: 55 Days in Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and Utah
by Scot2021 · 2024-12-08 · 63 replies
This travel journal is the second part of the trip whose first part you can find here: 1st part...

Sunday, August 7: the day we discover a magical place... Edmaier's Secret...

We got up at 8:00 AM, had breakfast on the terrace of our tiny house, and then set off again toward yesterday’s trail. This time, we stopped after 4.5 miles on House Rock Valley Road at the Buckskin Gulch Trail parking lot. We weren’t interested in that trail today—the slot canyon is muddy anyway after the recent storms...

Instead, we explored a lesser-known area that became our playground. And what a playground it was, folks—an out-of-this-world spot, THE highlight of our trip!!! 😏

Just imagine being in the middle of these landscapes, and the cherry on top... no one else around!!!!! Well, we did meet a couple who were coming back—it was 9:30 AM 😮. Did they camp there? Did they turn back? 🙁

After paying the entry permit online, we set off with plenty of water (6L for the four of us) plus a gallon we hid along the way for the return trip. 😉 After a one-hour approach hike along a wash, we reached the sea of sand.



We had to cross it to reach our goal: a strip about 2 km long and 1 km wide that you can explore freely since there’s no marked trail... We entered a few GPS points into our Garmin Etrex, and off we went!!! 😎 It was... magical, enchanting, a true love-at-first-sight moment!



Brain Rock, waves, fine and brittle rock, colors—it goes up, it goes down.







Just thinking about it gives me chills... I remember sitting still for two minutes, taking in these wonders with such emotion that I teared up...









Western USA Oct 2024 - Arches and Other Delights...
by MycoVtt · 2024-11-14 · 22 replies
Aaah, I'm so glad Voyage Forum is back up and running. For reading... and for writing...

My last travel journal was from 2019, when I went hiking and backpacking with my son, who was 15 at the time. We visited some places that were still pretty unknown back then! I was supposed to go in April 2020, still solo, with arches as the main focus. I’d spent nearly two months getting physically prepared, and had managed to snag a bunch of permits for CBS, The Needles, and so on... Of course, it all got postponed—first to October 2020, then April 2021, then October 2021, and finally it happened in April 2022. Maybe I’ll write about that in another journal. The thing is, every time, I spend at least 6 to 8 weeks getting physically ready, even though I work out all year. Huge disappointment during that trip—so much had changed because of Covid, kind of like in the mountains back home. Overcrowding, not just in the national parks (we knew about that), but also in a lot of remote, lesser-known spots. Like the French, Americans realized they had a lot of beautiful places in their own country during those travel bans. And they kept exploring... Prices for pretty much everything had already gone up a lot. Gas, restaurants, cars, but especially lodging! Then, after dealing with so much wind in April, I got a little "fed up" with that time of year. It felt like I had strong winds and sandstorms for 3 out of the 3.5 weeks I was there...

So, the next trip was October 2023, to catch the partial eclipse in New Mexico, and of course, a bunch of arches ;). So many arches. Maybe I’ll write about that one too... Then came (among others) April 2024 for the total eclipse, in Texas, but starting from L.A., with my partner Valérie. Since I’d never visited some places I wanted to see further south of my usual loops, it was the perfect opportunity... And here we are at the end of September 2024. Another trip focused on arches—I never get tired of them. Every time I check one off my list, another gets added. Often it’s a photo I’ve seen online or in the NABS (Natural Arches and Bridges Society) magazine, which I’m a member of. I also scour the WAD (World Arches Database) and make a list of arches I want to visit. Fewer and fewer "viewpoints"—I’ve done all the most famous ones, and unless the sky is amazing, the photos all look the same. Since my goal is always photography *and* hiking, I’m always on the lookout. So this time, a packed itinerary—27 days, very busy. In past trips, if I didn’t plan enough and hiked fast, I’d end up with too many "gaps" in my days. This time, I’d rather have too much than too little (like in 2023, actually).

A few stats: - 6,589 km, including +/-1,400 km of off-road trails - 323 km of hiking, 8,829 m of elevation gain - 142 new arches for my collection, including some stunning ones, some less so, and some downright ugly—but all in the WAD. - Two outings with a Navajo guide - Almost no injuries - 8 bivouacs, including 2 backpacking trips - 4 days of backpacking - 22 freeze-dried meals and 15 Subways eaten - 6 thorns in my shoes (long live the tweezers in my backpack) - 3 kg lost (plus the 5 kg lost during prep)

Almost every day, I posted a little update on Facebook for family and friends. So I’ll be copy-pasting those texts here, written "my way" as usual. Some will like it, some won’t—that’s just how it is... 😏

For months, I planned this trip—looking for info, creating GPS tracks on Google Earth, exchanging tips with NABS members and other passionate friends. I snagged permits for The Needles again (4-5 days), for Fiery Furnace, timed entries for Arches National Park (2), and booked just one campsite, a "triple tour" in Monument Valley, and the first night in a motel. This is the first time I haven’t booked 80% of the motels—I was tired of having constraints because of the weather. This time, I want to be able to adjust my plans based on the weather and what I feel like doing more or less of. Camp when the weather’s nice, hotel/motel when it’s crappy.

Here we go...

Day 1

As usual, early morning flights: BRU-AMS, then AMS-SLC. Those who follow me know I’ve been renting a Rubicon from Rugged for years, which "forces" me to land in SLC. Up at 3:30 AM, but I’d been awake since 2:00 AM—the day’s going to be long. Shuttle to the airport. In Brussels, only two check-in counters open. I get there—no cabin baggage weigh-in, while the agent next to me is weighing everyone’s, even kids’ backpacks! A bit of luck, because as usual, if they weighed my backpack *and* my cabin bag, I’d already be over 20 kg. I check two hold bags, since I’ve got a lot of camping/backpacking gear, lots of freeze-dried meals, the backpacking bag, the Bear Canister needed for The Needles, etc. First flight is 30 minutes late, so the second one is already boarding. I’ve got the SSSS mark on my ticket (extra security check), so I head straight to the front when I arrive at the same time as Zone 3, even though I’m Zone 6. I pretend the check will take a while, and it "works"—they didn’t notice! No way I want to board last and risk them making me check my cabin bag. It’s packed with photo gear, laptop, drone, etc.—unthinkable to have to put it in the hold. Always a worry... SLC: baggage claim, customs, and out in 32 minutes. The MPC app makes something that was already quick even faster at this airport. And all the bags are there. That’s always a relief too. Since I drive at least 3 hours straight after landing, losing a hold bag would really mess up the trip and force me to spend the first night closer to SLC. On the way to Rugged. A young French couple from Reims is in the shuttle with me—they discovered Rugged thanks to my post in a Facebook group! Well, the team has changed again, and they lost half the stuff I’d left last October (plastic boxes, pillow, sugar, gas cartridges, folding chair, Crocs, etc.), but at least there are gas cartridges, so I don’t have to go to REI. REI would’ve been at least an hour out of my way. But as far as I know, there are no gas cartridges in Green River. I still get my tent stake hammer back, and a folding chair—different from mine but identical.

20,000 km Rubicon 4Xe, white. I check the tires—they’re in great shape, as requested. I’ll come back to the hybrid later. I didn’t want a hybrid, but that’s all they had this year. Why? Higher fuel consumption, smaller tank, higher cargo floor.

Stop at the Walmart near Provo, whose layout I know like the back of my hand (Walmarts are often similar). Start-of-trip shopping: water, Coke, Gatorade, UHT milk for cereal (not very common in the US), Special K "Almond and Vanilla", cold meds that work well (and don’t exist back home—you never know), two plastic bins, a pillow for the tent, Trail Mix, that’s about it. On the road to Nebo Loop for the fall colors. I’d driven this route last year, in the opposite direction on my way back to SLC, but it was a bit too late. This time, I’m a little early. At the start of the road, the maples are in the sun, so I go up to 2,200 m for the bright yellow aspens, then head back down. Mostly drone shots—no time to go for a walk. After a day like this, 4.5-5 hours of driving is already a lot... Arrived in Green River at 9:00 PM. Organize all the stuff from the bags properly, then sleep.

A few photos from these first few hours.







The "Must-Sees" of the American West
by Marati · 2024-11-11 · 195 replies
This adventure began during Covid... Yep, Covid turned a lot of things upside down, but most of all, it kept us cooped up for a few months and stopped us from traveling for a while—even longer for a die-hard fan of the American West like me.

While borders were closed, I started imagining what an ideal itinerary might look like—one that would string together all the Southwest must-sees in just two weeks, during the best time of year: September and October. When the U.S. announced in September 2021 that borders would reopen in the coming weeks, I regained hope and began scouting flight tickets for a departure in September 2022.

But here’s the thing: tackling solo hikes, each one tougher than the last, right in the heart of the Wilderness, could be a risky—even reckless—endeavor for a father of three. After a quick chat with some virtual friends who are just as passionate about the Southwest as I am, with good physical condition and nearly the same list of must-visit spots, Franck and his brother Sullivan were in! 🙂

In November, we snagged flight tickets from Nice to San Francisco for the modest sum of 400 €, and a few days later, I booked a Toyota Tacoma pickup for 840 € !

It’s not cheap for just 15 days, and a pickup isn’t exactly ideal for luggage, but the prices for full-size 4x4s have become totally outrageous! Due to border closures, rental companies had to offload a lot of these big 4x4s, which tourists love. Then, supply and demand did the rest !

Franck and I spent the winter and spring trying to cram the equivalent of three weeks of hikes into two. But even with physical limits, we had to stay reasonable! Three to four months before departure, we entered the lotteries for different must-see spots: The Subway, Coyote Buttes North (home to the famous Wave), and Coyote Buttes South (CBS).

The Wave is the holy grail for any Southwest enthusiast. Since 2015, we’ve tried our luck with the online and on-site lotteries about ten times, but the spots are unfortunately limited: just 20 per day. A glimmer of hope, though—since early 2022, that number has increased to 64 people allowed per day, with 48 spots awarded via the online lottery.

After all three of us tried our luck for The Wave, on June 1st at exactly 5 PM, I got an email that started with, "Congratulations! You were successful in the Coyote Buttes North (The Wave) September 2022 Permit Lottery at Coyote Buttes North (The Wave)...". At 5:01 PM, I called Franck, whose dream it’s been for over 20 years—ever since the first photos were published in a travel magazine! He didn’t believe me when I told him, and I had to forward the email for him to finally accept the unbelievable: we were going to The Wave and all the incredible spots scattered across the protected area of Coyote Buttes North.

I’ve already been to Coyote Buttes South twice, but there are areas I couldn’t explore in the middle of summer because they were too remote. So, I had no trouble letting my buddies convince me to go back for a third time. Plus, given how hard it is to access, we had no trouble securing a permit online as long as we logged in at exactly 8 PM on the dot!

For The Subway, all three of us struck out. No big deal—we won at CBN and CBS!

Among the sites to visit, there are two that I’m particularly attached to because I know my chances of wanting to see them again are slim. The first is Angel Arch, one of the most legendary arches in the Southwest, due to its remoteness from any trace of civilization. To get there, the recommended hike is Upper Salt Creek, and you’re looking at a 50 km round-trip in an area with no water (in September) and populated by bears.

The second site is the Hopi Salt Trail, in Navajo land, which, after a very tough hike, lets you marvel at the turquoise-blue waters of the Little Colorado before it meets the Colorado River. The Hopi Salt Trail is, like The Wave, the holy grail for any Southwest enthusiast, and the windows of opportunity to see the water in that magical color are very short each year. For this, you have to monitor the Little Colorado’s gauges downstream from Cameron: if the level stays at its lowest for 10 consecutive days—meaning no rain—you can hope for turquoise water. The ideal period rarely exceeds 30 days a year, and it’s usually in June that all the stars align.

But unfortunately, one month before departure, while the flow rate at Cameron looked promising, several storms in September dashed our hopes of doing the Hopi Salt Trail, even at the end of the road trip.

We still had two consolation prizes, though:

After a last-minute cancellation, while keeping an eye out for available spots for The Subway, it turned out that three spots opened up exactly on the day we’d planned to go—so we rushed to grab them!! Regarding the 4x4 rental, the prices for full-size models dropped by several hundred dollars, and we ended up finding a Chevrolet Tahoe for less than $1000. A steal and a serious boost in comfort, so we could store all our gear and food without worry!

Here’s the initial plan in a perfect world: D1 The White Domes - Camping D2 Sunrise at The White Domes - The Subway D3 Coyote Buttes North D4 Coyote Buttes South - White Pocket D5 Wahweap Hoodoos - Sidestep Canyon - Colourful Canyon - White Rocks - Sunset at Yellow Rock D6 Broken Bow Arch - Reflection Canyon D7 Coyote Gulch D8 The Volcano (or The Oasis - Zebra Slot Canyon if the weather’s good) - North Caineville Mesa D9 The Needles: Squaw Canyon - Lost Canyon combo - Druid Arch - Chesler Park D10 Upper Salt Creek Day 1 - Camping D11 Upper Salt Creek Day 2 D12 Hopi-Navajo Territory: Ha Ho No Geh Canyon, Coal Mine Canyon, Bends of the Little Colorado D13 Grand Canyon: South Kaibab Trail and Bright Angel Trail D14 Upper East Zion: East Temple Loop, Jughandle Arch, Center of the Universe, and Checkerboard Mesa Summit And several backup options in case of bad weather, including Spencer Trail, West Cove, and Buffington Pockets.

Enough talking—time for action!
Mexico: The Magic of the Yucatán
by Lhorizon · 2024-11-11 · 44 replies
Hello everyone,

What a pleasure to be back on VF after a few difficult years 😎 So, before diving into the topic, welcome back to VF and above all... keep going!

Well, I’m finally picking up my old habit of posting a new travel journal.

Before heading to Mexico in the summer of 2023 with my family (my partner and our two boys, aged 18 and 16), I had somehow convinced myself—though I can’t even remember why—that the Yucatán was too touristy, too cliché, too expensive, and overrated!

The country didn’t particularly appeal to me, but faced with my wife’s insistence—she’d been there years ago, before we met, and had promised to show our sons this incredible place—my arguments didn’t hold much weight.

And thank goodness, because I have to admit she was absolutely right to take us there! In the end, we encountered far fewer tourists than we’d feared (except at a few sites), and the prices, which we’d been told were geared toward American neighbors (US), turned out to be quite affordable. In short, it was pure joy on both counts. All that was left was for the trip itself to be beautiful and memorable—and it was...

1st stop: Isla Holbox and the whale sharks

Holbox (pronounced “Hol-bosh”) is a stunning island where you can relax in an enchanting setting.



Our main goal in coming to Holbox was to swim with whale sharks. So, the first thing we told our hotel, Los Arcos Holbox, upon arrival was to arrange an excursion with one of the island’s many tour operators: Glendy Tours Holbox. We set off the next morning, bright and early.

The itinerary for this outing is the same for all tour operators (and there are about thirty of them!): roughly two hours by speedboat, then snorkeling with the whale sharks, followed by another boat ride to Cabo Catoche for lunch, then more boating to a fish-filled snorkeling spot before heading back. In total, the excursion can take eight hours—or even longer.



Besides my two sons and me, there were only two other clients on board—a French couple. Our boat was one of the very first to leave, but after ten minutes, the pilot got a radio call. We turned back without any explanation, returning to the departure dock.

There, a young woman who clearly fancied herself a diva was waiting for us. She was Mexican and boarded the boat, snubbing all five of us while flirting with the pilot and guide, who were suddenly all eyes for her. We couldn’t understand how this diva had convinced our tour operator to turn the boat around just to pick her up when she hadn’t even booked and we were already far out. We left 20 minutes late.

The two-hour journey passed surprisingly quickly, and for good reason: we spotted dolphins six times! They were leaping out of the water as they moved. Pure joy. We stopped whenever they were near the boat.



The photo isn’t great—the ultra-wide-angle lens on my GoPro makes the dolphins look smaller—but at least I got a souvenir.

A few flying fish (exocets) also glided a meter or two above the water as we sped along. The false start was forgotten, and the day was off to a fantastic start in this stunning marine environment...

When we reached the area where the whale sharks were supposed to be, the guide explained that we’d now have to scan the sea until we spotted one. It could take five minutes or forty-five, he said, and if we were unlucky, we might not see any at all!

An hour and a half later—still nothing! The captain then headed toward a distant area where about twenty other boats were already gathered.

Sure enough, there was a juvenile whale shark (still a good eight meters long) there, and all the boats were lining up to approach it slowly, one by one, so as not to scare the animal. Each boat got about thirty seconds within a few meters of it, engine idling, before making way for the next. We were allowed to approach three times, but we weren’t permitted to dive in. That’s normal—such a crowd of divers around a single animal would stress it out, and here, whale sharks are protected by regulations: swimming with them is strictly controlled. There was even a coast guard boat with us at all times, monitoring everyone’s behavior.

We were torn between the luck of seeing such a magnificent animal, even from the surface, and the discomfort we felt about the absurd situation. All those boats lined up just to catch a fleeting glimpse of the shark for a few seconds—let’s be honest, it was ridiculous. In short, the whole thing was unpleasant, and probably even more so for the shark than for us, though it did keep gulping down kilos of plankton as if nothing were happening...

When it was our turn to approach, I dipped my GoPro into the water at arm’s length and framed the shot blindly, hoping for a decent image of the shark.



On the third and final approach, the sixth passenger on board—the one we’d had to turn back for ten minutes after departure—quietly spoke to the guide and captain after putting on her flippers (even though, I’ll remind you, no one was allowed to dive). She wanted them to ask the coast guard for permission to dive with the shark—just her! She whispered so we couldn’t hear what she was offering in exchange.

The two lackeys complied and shouted the request to the officials in front of all the other boats, with no shame whatsoever. With so many witnesses, the coast guard had no choice but to refuse. The diva wouldn’t let it go and asked them to insist, which they did, but the refusal was firm and final.

On the nearest boats, everyone had heard and was stunned. They openly mocked this bimbo who clearly had no shame. Hidden behind her star sunglasses, she responded with a dismissive smile. Pathetic.

The encounter with the shark ended, and we set off for Cabo Catoche, a site on Holbox Island where we were to have lunch.



We were a little disappointed not to have had the chance to see the usual school of whale sharks (they’re often dozens swimming together!), but that’s nature’s way, and we knew it.

And then, an unlikely stroke of luck: a boat ahead of us was putting divers in the water with a pair of adult whale sharks. We joined them, and while we were putting on our masks and snorkels, the guide briefed us. He said my sons and I would go first, followed by the French couple and the diva.

But Miss World, clearly unhappy with this order, quietly complained to the guide, who eventually switched the order. It didn’t bother us since we’d only get a minute in the water anyway—what’s a minute more or less?

So the three of them got in the water, and a moment later, they were done. My two sons and I, sitting on the edge of the boat with masks on and snorkels in our mouths, were ready to finally take the plunge. But instead of continuing to follow the shark, the captain was suddenly all eyes for Miss Silicone! He even let go of the wheel for a moment to help her back on board.

One of the two sharks had already left minutes earlier, and the second was swimming farther away. Other boats were arriving, and the captain went to join the queue 100 meters from the shark. Soon, even more boats showed up. There were way too many people, the shark left, and diving was no longer possible.

I was, of course, a little disappointed not to have fulfilled my long-time dream of swimming with a whale shark, even briefly. But I was mostly disgusted for my two boys, who had been so excited about it. I told the guide exactly what I thought and asked for compensation—not for missing out on swimming with the shark (you can never guarantee seeing one, nature isn’t at our beck and call), but for clearly skipping our turn to dive. He promised a refund.

At the end of the day, back on land, he dropped us all off, and as he was about to leave, I reminded him about the refund. He agreed again, calmly got back on board, and sped off as if nothing had happened—just him and the captain, two total cowards. I couldn’t believe it.

Of course, back at our hotel (which had booked this tour operator—Glendy Tours), I explained the situation and asked for my refund again. The receptionist called the manager, who arrived with the guide. Our runaway wasn’t so cocky anymore. Inside, I was fuming, but I kept my cool during the discussion that followed.

Right off the bat, I made a point of looking the so-called guide in the eyes while telling him he’d run off like a coward. I did my best to stay calm, speaking clearly, staring him down the whole time, and repeating several times that he was a coward, in front of the manager, who didn’t say a word. The guide had clearly been told by his boss to keep quiet because he didn’t utter a word during the entire twenty-minute conversation.

Anyway, I’ll spare you the details, but in the end, the manager only offered us another excursion the next day as compensation for the “inconvenience.” It was just snorkeling with fish, not another whale shark trip. He admitted their fault, but since we had to leave early the next morning and had other bookings for the rest of the trip, we couldn’t accept. And he refused to refund us.

On Tripadvisor, Glendy Tours has a mediocre rating (3 out of 5), but more importantly, it ranks 29th out of 36 nautical tour operators rated by customers. I was pretty upset with the hotel for booking such an amateur for us.



If you want to swim with whale sharks in Holbox, you might end up with Glendy Tours. And it might go well—I certainly hope so. But given the price of such an excursion (3,000 pesos per person, about 160 €!), I’d still suggest quickly checking online before you go to see which providers have the best ratings. You’ll have a much better chance of things going smoothly with the top-rated ones than with those as poorly ranked as Glendy Tours.

On the other hand, if you’re a beautiful young woman, you can choose them without worry—you’ll get better treatment than the rest of us...

To wrap up this excursion, I have to mention the “respect for nature” angle that all these tour operators highlight. They tell us they respect the whale sharks: only two or three people can dive at a time, and only for a few minutes, so as not to disturb these gentle giants...

We believed them before we left, but that’s not what we saw. When the sharks are hard to find except for one, everyone rushes it, and only the constant presence of the coast guard prevents the tour operators from putting their clients in the water.

Because for the second shark we saw, when the divers from our boat got out of the water and we left to join the queue while it was our turn to dive, other boats quickly arrived and started swarming the poor shark, which eventually left.

In other words, it’s clear these companies only respect the sharks when they’re being watched.

Boat reversing a meter away from a pelican

And for the snorkeling near Cabo Catoche, they attract fish daily by feeding them—a practice that’s normally discouraged. Afterward, these fish can’t feed naturally anymore and become dependent on Glendy Tours and its competitors.

A quick note on the rest of the excursion: Cabo Catoche (the site where we had lunch, on Holbox Island) is the northernmost point of the entire Yucatán. The place is paradise.



On the way back, we spent half an hour snorkeling at a site that turned out to be fish-filled only because the tour operators had the bad habit of feeding the fish. But this practice, which isn’t respectful of nature, is normally discouraged.



Plus, life jackets—like in many places in the Yucatán—are mandatory!!



As divers, we didn’t find the site very interesting, but objectively, it should delight those who aren’t used to putting their heads underwater in beautiful dive spots.

We hated feeling trapped in those life jackets, stuck at the surface, and for me, the highlight was swimming next to a pelican that wasn’t too shy—it was paddling right beside me in green water.

Anyway, it seems we can’t post more than 10 photos at once on VF, so I’ll come back with the rest of the journal in another message. Because after these early trip mishaps, the rest of the journey turned out to be magnificent...
A Month in Laos and Cambodia
by Montagnard74 · 2024-11-05 · 107 replies
Hello everyone,

At the start of November, a bit of rest before winter will be perfect to kick off this travel journal. There aren’t many recent journals about this part of the world, so I’ll take the plunge—my way of celebrating the (unexpected) return of this forum, which has been such a big part of my life for over 15 years.

So, back to Asia at the end of 2023. After Myanmar in 2015 and Vietnam in 2018, we’ve chosen Laos this time. And when talking with friends (you know how it is—everyone asks, "So, where are you going this year?"), a couple of friends asked to join us ("You see, my wife dreams of a trip to Asia, and I dream of traveling like you, independently"). We’ve spent a week with them (and other friends) in Portugal, so we know they’re easygoing and flexible. They’ll only be with us after Christmas (due to lots of grandkids), so deal—we’re bringing them along! A new experience for us.

A new experience that’ll start with tweaking the itinerary. Originally, I planned to stay a month in Laos, but what could be more magical for my friend’s wife than discovering Asia by way of Angkor! Plus, our two daughters asked for some beach time at the end of the trip! So, it’ll be Laos and Cambodia—neither of which we’ve visited before, so no complaints there.

The route will be pretty classic, though a bit scattered to fit our dates and wishes. For us, we’ll arrive in Luang Prabang (LP) to take some time to acclimate, then a few days in the northern Laos mountains, Nong Khiaw and Muang Ngoi. Back to LP for a direct flight to Pakse. Yes, I know—so many amazing places we’ll miss along the way, but as you know, choosing means letting go... From Pakse, I’m leaving a few days open (no bookings), but I’m eyeing Champassak and the 4,000 Islands. That’s where Mariel and Naty (our friends!) will join us on December 30th. I’ve tentatively added the Bolaven Plateau loop to the plan (still no bookings). Their Laos adventure will be short—by January 3rd, we’ll cross the border into Cambodia, heading straight to Siem Reap for 5 days. Then, I’ll fulfill my promise with a magical detour to Koh Rong Sanloem via a night bus (a must-do in Asia!). On to Phnom Penh for 2 days—where our trip ends, while Mariel and Naty will stop in Bangkok for 3 days before flying home.

So, fasten your seatbelts, flight attendants at the doors, and sorry for the long intro—here we go on this Asian adventure!

Southwest! 8 weeks with the family, Denver-to-Denver loop, 1st part...
by Scot2021 · 2024-10-26 · 84 replies
Hey there, VoyageForum!!!

I’ve combed through this site up, down, and sideways to plan our two-month road trip across the American Southwest during the summer of 2022, so it only feels right to give back and revive the USA travel journal section—helping others prep, travel, or relive their own memories! 😏

A quick intro to the stars of this trip is coming soon... in an upcoming post!

Table of Contents:

Road trip introduction Day 1 & 2: the days we double-checked all our papers... Day 3 & 3 bis: The day we discovered Denver... Day 4: The day of the race, the carriage, and the little one’s cough... Day 5: the day the road trip truly began... Day 6 & 6 bis: the day of Nature’s first wonders... Day 7: the day the sky fell on our heads... Day 8 & 8 bis: the day we saw ghosts... Day 9: the day we climbed the mountain... Day 10: the day the theme song from "The Last Picture Show" played on loop in my head... Day 11: the day we lived like Native Americans... Day 12: the day we left civilization behind... Day 13 & 13 bis: the day we explored another planet... Day 14 & 14 bis: the day Caro reunited with HER rocks... Day 15 & 15 bis: the day of the fantastic ride... Day 16: the day we cooled off in Lake Powell... Day 17: the day the Colorado River’s meanders were all ours... Day 18: the day we dipped our feet in the Colorado... Day 19: the day the guys discovered true vastness... Day 20 & 20 bis: the day we covered a few acres of Route 66 before sunset... Day 21: the day the credit card said stop... right before the STRIP... Day 22: the day we finally discovered Cirque du Soleil... Day 23: the day we returned to calm... well, almost... Day 24: the day we reached our home base for 6 nights: Saint George Day 25: the day we should’ve explored Yant Flat... Day 26: the day it was 13°C at Cedar Breaks... Day 27: the day we explored The Narrows in Zion NP... Day 28: the day we discovered Snow Canyon... Day 29: the day we hiked to the "SUBWAY"... Day 30: the day we encountered the abyss—from the north this time... Day 31: the day we arrived in a place where dreams begin... Kanab... Day 32: the day we discovered the first treasures along House Rock Valley... 2nd part: the second part of the journey... Day 33: the day we discovered a magical place... Edmaier's Secret... Day 34: the day Cottonwood Road didn’t open up to us... Day 35: the day of the classic Queen’s Garden + Navajo Loop—and another event that became a classic... Day 36: the second day in Bryce... pure bliss!!! Day 37: the day we swam at the foot of Calf Creek Falls... Day 38: the day we took the Burr Trail, even with storms lurking... Day 39: The day of the goblins... Day 40: the day we enjoyed the peaceful Capitol Reef NP... Day 41: the day of the Rim Overlook and another letdown... Day 42: the day we arrived in... Moab... Day 43: the first day in Arches National Park... Day 44: the day of the Fisher Towers... Day 45: the day of Bow Tie & Corona Arches... Day 46: The day of Shafer Trail + Potash Road... Day 47: The second day in Arches NP... Day 48: the day we discovered Colorado NM in a flash... Day 49: the day of Black Canyon... Day 50: the day we passed through Durango before falling for Silverton... Day 51: the day we went through Ouray and ended up in Gunnison... Day 52: the day of Kebler Pass and arriving at the hot springs... Day 53: the day of hot springs II, then the road back to Denver... Day 54: the last day... Day 55: back home and the RECAP...
On part en vadrouille dans l'ouest américain! Oui, encore...
by Bibouns51 · 2020-03-17 · 508 replies
En ces temps difficiles qui nous obligent à trouver des occupations, je vous soumets ici un carnet que j'avais rédigé il y a quelques années et que je n'ai jamais publié ici... Bonne lecture (pour ceux que ça intéresse...)...

24 juillet - Itinéraire d’une famille gâtée

Envie de t’évader ? Envie de rêver ? Envie de t’amuser ? Oui ? Alors tu as frappé à la bonne adresse... Plus précisément à l’adresse de celui qui a attrapé un virus… En l’occurrence, moi… Et ce virus, pas question de m’en débarrasser en me bourrant d’antibiotiques. Non seulement, les antibiotiques, ce n’est pas automatique, mais ce virus-là, j’en prends grand soin. Je l’entretiens, même… Ce virus, c’est l’étasunite ! Je l’ai contracté le jour où j’ai posé mes arpions chez l’oncle Sam pour la première fois, il y a une décennie de cela. Tout ça ne me rajeunit pas mais depuis ce fameux jour, lui et moi, nous ne nous sommes plus jamais quittés. Un proverbe dit à ce sujet que si tu vas aux Etats-Unis une fois, tu y reviendras un jour… Ben moi, depuis, j’y suis même retourné deux autres fois ! Et figure-toi que si tu lis ces quelques lignes, c’est que je m’apprête à y retourner pour une quatrième vadrouille !... Pour cette fois-ci, je vais accomplir un de mes rêves ! Me faire la route 66 sur mon Harley avec une belle brune accrochée à ma taille... Manque de bol, ma femme est blonde, je n'ai pas le permis moto et nous avons deux louloutes de quatre et sept ans… Va donc falloir que je revoie mes plans...

Bon, si tu es un lecteur assidu de nos précédentes vadrouilles, nous n’avons plus de secret pour toi, si bien que tu sais déjà que nous sommes quatre, juste un an de plus par rapport à la dernière fois… Il y a bien évidemment Sandrine, ma femme alias le portefeuille ; Sasha, notre petite globetrotteuse de quatre ans ; et Anna notre routarde de sept ans et plus toutes ses dents... Ah, et je m’oubliais ! Moi, Franck, la trentaine bien tassée, alias le conducteur, le tour opérateur, le narrateur, le cuisinier, le… Oui, je sais, moi aussi, j’aimerais bien déléguer… Ah, mais j’oublie encore quelqu’un !… Toi… Mais bon, sauf le respect que je te dois, tu ne seras une nouvelle fois que le spectateur du film que nous allons tourner et interpréter… D’ailleurs, quel en sera le titre ?... Et bien après réflexion, on a le choix entre « Voyage entre geysers et déserts », ou alors « Sous le soleil de Beverly Hills »… Pour ce coup-là, en espérant ne pas les vexer, on décide de poser un lapin à Brandon et Brenda… Car oui, c’est décidé, cette nouvelle édition sera composée d'indiens, de geysers, de trappeurs, de pionniers, de bisons, de chercheurs d'or, de hors-la-loi, de ranchs et de cowboys ! A nous les grands espaces… et les gros hamburgers !!! A nous l’ouest américain et ses films qui donnent tant envie : Délivrance, la colline a des yeux, Shining, The Descent, ...

Mais un voyage comme celui-là, ça se prépare un ‘tiot peu. Premièrement, il faut du blé, du flouze, du fric, du pognon, des pépettes, de la caillasse… Ben oui, ça coûte cher tout ça, donc à moins de faire comme le PSG et te faire subventionner par un investisseur qatari, il va falloir que tu en mettes de côté. Deuxièmement, il faut un minimum de travail de préparation. Et je commencerai mon histoire par un retour dans le passé, un bond dans le temps pour revenir pile poil au moment où Sandrine a enfin craqué sous mes coups de butoir et m’a donné son ô combien précieuse approbation… « Allez, ok, c’est bon, fais-toi plaisir ! » Sans avoir réellement conscience de la portée de ces quelques mots, elle venait de me signer un contrat de travail d’un an ! Car moi, ni une, ni deux, j'ai employé toute une équipe de lutins pour m'aider à préparer mon itinéraire. Lecture de carnets de voyage, questions sur des forums, épluchage de guides, visionnage de films, essorage d’internet, … Au final, je dois dire que je suis plus que satisfait de leur boulot ! Ce qui me permet non pas de faire un bilan puisqu'heureusement, le voyage n'est pas commencé, mais plutôt un petit compte-rendu chiffré de ce qui nous attend. Huit états à traverser ou à effleurer, plus de cinq mille kilomètres à parcourir, vingt jours pleins sur place, deux hôtels, quatorze campings différents, huit heures de décalage... Mes trois blondes vont-elles le supporter ? Optimiste que je suis, je mise sur un grand « Oui » ! D’ailleurs, pour les préparer, j’ai mis en place un programme intensif trois mois avant le départ : Marche autour de notre immense propriété, westerns tous les soirs, Coca et hamburgers à volonté à tous les repas !... Et oui, qui ménage sa monture voyage plus souvent !

Avant de tailler la route, je profite de cette intro pour publier une petite annonce à destination des cambrioleurs amateurs de textes de voyage : passez votre route, ma maison est équipée d’une alarme biométrique avec double varifocale et matrice de commutation. De plus, j’ai loué à un pote du neuf trois son gros pitbull pour l’occasion. Sans compter que pendant nos vacances, ma maison va être occupée par mes parents qui sont tous les deux experts en arts martiaux !... D’ailleurs, pourquoi je te raconte ces bobards alors que tu ne connais même pas mon adresse… C'est le 25, avenue des canaris à Triffouillis-sur-Retourne... Euh, merci de ne pas m’envoyer de carte postale à l'adresse ci-dessus... c'est une fausse !

Bon, chut, ça y est, c’est l’heure de l’évaluation… On va savoir si toute la famille est prête pour le grand départ : « Sandrine, donne-moi les huit états dans lesquels nous allons poser les pieds... - Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, Dakota du sud, Montana, Idaho, Utah et... euh... mince, oh, je l’ai sur le bout de la langue… Ah oui, l’Arizona !!!… - Mouais… C’était moins une… Encore un peu et tu n’partais pas avec nous ! Et toi, Anna, cite-moi les quatre présidents sculptés sur le Mont Rushmore ? - Abram Licol, Tomasse Washington, George Jeffessonne et Theodore Rousevelle... - Ok, on va dire que c’est bon… Et toi, Sasha, dans quel pays allons-nous cet été ? - Les Jétajuniiiiis de l’Amérique de Mickey ! » Ok, c’est bon, elles sont fin prêtes ! Attention, départ imminent !
USA 2018: Ciels de foudre et terres de feu
by Jdakota · 2020-01-15 · 184 replies
Arrivée très tardive à Denver après un voyage long et fatiguant. Récupération du SUV standard chez Alamo. Peu, voire pas de choix. Des hyundai Santa Fe et deux Kia. J’opte pour une Santa Fe Sport. Celle-ci est au moins AWD (automatic wheel drive) contrairement aux Kia. Je n’ai pas réservé d’hôtel à Denver, préférant quitter de suite l’agglomération de la capitale du Colorado pour prendre de l’avance sur ma (très) longue journée de route du lendemain. Malgré la fatigue et la nuit, je parviens à quitter la ville assez facilement et sans me tromper. Je file droit au nord sur l’interstate 25 North pendant deux bonnes heures avant de me trouver un motel quelque part entre Fort Collins et Cheyenne. Je m’endors comme une souche.

24 août – de Fort Collins à Badlands national park.

Réveil très matinal, décalage horaire oblige. Le lever du jour est encore loin. Le temps d’avaler un café dans salle d’accueil et je reprends la route. J’adore ces voyages en solo dans l’ouest que je m’offre en général tous les deux ans. Ils m’apportent un sentiment de liberté assez grisant. On monte dans sa voiture de location et on part à l’aventure ! En préparant ce voyage, j’ai coché une série de sites que je n’avais pas encore arpentés et quelques autres que j’avais envie de revoir. Tout cela va m’amener à parcourir un nombre impressionnant de kilomètres à travers un cercle qui inclue le Colorado, le South Dakota, le Wyoming, l’Utah, l’Arizona, et le Nouveau Mexique. Je préfère ne pas compter.

Le programme de ce premier jour doit me faire gagner le South Dakota et le Badlands national park, Ca fait de la route pour une visite que je soupçonne un peu trop courte puisque j’ai prévu d’en repartir le lendemain matin. J’aurais dû prévoir davantage. Il fait beau et la route est sympa. Les grandes plaines du Wyoming s’étirent sous le soleil matinal. Je fais une pause dans la petite ville de Custer, du nom du général de triste mémoire.

Puis c’est la traversée de Rapid city, agrémentée d’un rapide déjeuner. J’atteints l’entrée nord du Badlands national park en début d’après-midi. Beaucoup plus tôt qu’attendu. Tant mieux, je vais pouvoir en profiter. Le parc est tout en longueur et la route (Badlands loop road) qui le parcours du nord au sud est longue de 45 kilomètres. Le camping du parc que j’ai réservé est situé tout au bout de cette route, près de la sortie sud.

La première impression est excellente. Les falaises déchiquetées sont spectaculaires et plus haute que ce à quoi je m’attendais.



La route descend ensuite dans la vallée des « Yellow mounds ». C’est ma partie préférée du parc. On slalome entre des collines colorées surréalistes. Du jeune, du rouge, de l’orange au milieu d’une herbe vert pale. C’est sauvage, inattendu. J’adore…





Pas mal de pause à mesure que je progresse vers le sud. Certains points de vue improvisés sont incroyables. Dommage qu’une bande de brume grise bouche l’horizon et gâche un peu la perspective.





J’arrive au camping. Je mets un bon moment avant de trouver mon emplacement, celui-ci ayant été changé suite à quelques inondations dans la plaine.

Ballades dans la partie sud. Windows trail, tout petit bout du Notch trail et un peu d’improvisation. L’après-midi se déroule tranquillement sous un ciel d’azur.





Je m’interroge sur la partie à privilégier pour le coucher de soleil et je songe naturellement aux Yellow mounds.

Retour au nord, donc, après quelques arrêts pour de courtes ballades improvisées au milieu des badlands. Je suis complètement emballé par ce cadre atypique dont la lumière de fin de journée accentue la magie.





Je termine la journée sur une petite colline à l’entrée des Yellow mounds. Les couleurs qu’on peut y capter sont fabuleuses. Un coucher de soleil de compétition et qui ne ressemble à aucun autre.









Retour au camping à la nuit tombée. La particularité des campings des national parks, c’est que les rangers y organisent chaque soir des activités en rapport avec la nature. Ce soir, c’est « observation du ciel nocturne ». Deux télescopes ont été installés près du traditionnel amphithéâtre à ciel ouvert. L’un est braqué sur Jupiter, l’autre sur la Lune que je n’avais jamais vue d’aussi prêt. Une belle manière de terminer cette journée riche en découvertes. Je ne regrette décidément pas de m’être imposé ce long détour par le South Dakota.

25 aout 2018 : De Badlands national park à Devils Tower national monument.

Encore un réveil très matinal, volontaire celui-là. Emballé par le spectacle offert par les Yellow mounds au coucher du soleil, j’ai décidé d’aller y admirer le lever du jour.

Je commence par m’installer au point de vue « Conata Basin overlook » qui offre un point de vue général sur la zone. Toujours cette zone de brume au-dessus de l’horizon qui retarde l’arrivée du soleil. Je l’attribue, peut-être à tort, aux nombreux incendies qui ravagent l’ouest depuis des semaines. Je me dis que je vais peut-être devoir subir ce désagrément esthétique pendant le reste du voyage.



Le soleil finit par dépasser la brume et c’est assez grandiose. Sans doute manque-t-il un ciel dramatique au décor. Mais bon… Apprenons à nous contenter de l’existant.





Je poursuis vers le bas de la vallée en opérant un stop rapide à mi-chemin de la descente. Quelques dizaines de mètres de marche permettent de bénéficier d'une vue étendue sur les mounds.



Ma prochaine étape se situe à Yellow Mounds overlook, qui se trouve au sommet de la petite colline colorée de la veille. Presque aussi bien que la veille.



Hiking in Arizona, just Arizona
by Ju45 · 2020-01-09 · 50 replies
Les mois ont passé…. Ma demande en mariage à Dirty Devil Overlook (vers Hanksville, au fin fond de l’Utah) un soir de juin 2017, s’est concrétisée.... "Chérie", ma dame est devenue Madame.

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C'était un voyage sensationnel, le meilleur. A peine rentrés, on savait qu'on repartirait...et le plus rapidement possible. Un mariage à organiser, la vente de la maison, l'acquisition d'une autre, un an de travaux et l'arrivée d'Utah notre Border Collie.... Voilà le contexte... (ce qui explique la longue absence sur VF et le délai pour s'occuper du carnet 😉)

Mais premier point noir: Au moment du peaufinage du roadbook, les USA sont plongés en plein Shutdown. Et ça dure, ça dure. …On suit alors ça de ‘’près’’. Le shutdown le plus long de l’histoire à ce jour s’est terminé 5 semaines avant le départ… Or le programme était de partir de Phoenix/ Tucson Saguaro NP/ Organ mountain / White Sands / Bisti Badlands / Canyon de Chelly / Painted desert / Walnut canyon / Grand Canyon avec boucle South kaibab Bright Angel / Sedona 4 nuits / puis retour Phoenix. Donc une grosse dominante de parcs nationaux cette année et peu de Wilderness; donc des coins potentiellement fermés et peu de plan B proches. Pas envie de prendre le risque si l’épisode reprend.

Deuxième point noir : quelques semaines avant le départ, double ernie discale et méchant lumbago lors des travaux dans la nouvelle maison. Arrêt de travail, kiné, ostéo, massages, etc. Grosse incertitude sur la capacité de partir, à tenir 10 heures dans l’avion, à pouvoir randonner… bref le doute domine.

Troisième point noir : Il nous est désormais impossible pour des raisons professionnelles de partir entre avril et septembre. Or en vérifiant la météo avant le départ (longtemps avant !!), la météo est détraquée dans le Southwest. Il fait anormalement froid….. et ça dure. Sauf vers Phoenix et Tucson où la météo est correcte.

Tous ces éléments nous font modifier le parcours peu de temps avant de partir. D’autres hôtels sont alors réservés, tout en gardant le plan A au cas où une éclaircie pointerait le bout de son nez…

Une chose est sûre, on part pour une boucle au départ de Phoenix, pour randonner en Arizona... A suivre ...
Randonnée "Alien Throne" et "King of Wings" dans Ah-Shi-Sle-Pah (Nouveau-Mexique)
by Scot2021 · 2020-01-04 · 11 replies
Bonjour à tous et meilleurs voeux pour cette année 2020!

petite question sur Ah-Shi-Sle-Pah: peut-on rejoindre en randonnée les 2 sites nommés "Alien Throne" et "King of Wings"? Sur Google Maps, ces 2 sites ne semblent pas être éloigné de plus de 3 kms et pourtant on ne trouve aucune rando avec coordonnées gpx pour se rendre de l'un à l'autre... Y a-t-il un obstacle incontournable genre falaise qui oblige à faire un très grand détour? merci beaucoup!

Amicalement Sylvain
Itinéraire de 53 jours dans l'Ouest américain: plans B, idées, critiques...
by Scot2021 · 2019-11-07 · 27 replies
Bonjour à tous!

Ce post rassemble les différentes parties d'une précédente discussion en un seul document...

Tout d'abord, merci à tous ceux qui ont écrit un carnet de voyage sur ce forum, je les lis depuis plusieurs mois afin d'y pêcher un maximum d'idées pour tracer notre itinéraire; merci également à tous les habitués de l'Ouest américain qui prennent de leur temps pour intervenir très souvent sur ce forum afin d'aider les novices... Novices que nous ne sommes pas puisque nous sommes allés en 2008 faire un circuit classique de trois semaines... et cela nous avait tellement marqué que nous voulons le faire découvrir à nos deux garçons.

Je vous présente rapidement la famille pour que vous ayez une idée des paramètres influents sur nos futures activités! Sylvain et Caroline, enseignants quarantenaires et sportifs, Tom, 12 ans au moment du voyage, sportif et Oscar, 7 ans en 2021 et déjà bon petit randonneur à 5 ans!

Je voudrais donc vous soumettre notre itinéraire déjà tracé et travaillé et savoir si, pour vous, c'est cohérent d'une part, réalisable d'autre part et si on passe à côté de quelque chose! Je recherche aussi des plans B, voire C en cas de mauvaise météo, fatigue, ... des bons restos, de bons hôtels ou campings, ...

Au plaisir de vous lire et en espérant des idées nouvelles, des critiques... constructives!

JOUR 1: Vol Paris - Denver (Acheter les billets en Septembre? Octobre? Novembre? Décembre?....)

Récupération de la voiture de location (client Hertz donc plutôt chez ce loueur, location d'un SUV ou 4x4 car des pistes sont prévues😉)

Route vers Colorado Springs et nuit en hôtel. Peut-être se dégourdir les jambes dans Garden of the Gods si pas trop de fatigue...

JOUR 2: Matinée destinée aux achats de matériel de camping dans un Walmart.

pourquoi pas US Air Force Academy et sa chapelle si le temps.

Ravitaillement au Whole Foods Market puis direction les petites villes Victor et Cripple Creek.

Piste Shelf Road pour se familiariser avec la conduite de la voiture sur une piste et camping au Sand Gulch Campground, loin de tout pour espérer voir une belle voûte céleste!

JOUR 3: Fin de la Shelf Road en matinée.

pique-nique à Salida puis direction Great Sand Dunes: balades "Zapata Falls" et "Point of no return".

Hotel GSD Lodge.

JOUR 4: Rando "High Dune" dans la matinée.

Pique-nique à Alamosa puis route vers Taos en passant par les Earth Ships et le Rio Grande Bridge.

Visite de Taos... (idées?)

Camping près de Taos?

JOUR 5: Matinée: High Road to Taos scenic byway.

Visite de Santa Fe... (idées?)

Camping KOA.

JOUR 6: Matinée: Bandelier NM

Pique-nique puis route panoramique Jemez Mountain Trail: différents arrêts?

Camping à Cochiti Lake.

JOUR 7: Matinée: Parc Tent Rocks.

Pique-nique puis route vers Bisti Badlands: Valley of dreams.

Bivouac

JOUR 8: Matinée: Bisti Badlands: cracked eggs

Pique-nique à Shiprock puis route vers Chinle.

Canyon de Chely avec les différents points de vue et surtout Spider Rock en soirée.

Hotel à Chinle

JOUR 9: Hope Arch au lever du jour puis route vers Monument Valley

Scenic Road de MV

Wild cat trail

Camping the View

JOUR 10: Muley Point via Moky Dugway

Piste Valley of the gods

Gooseneck en revenant au camping the View

JOUR 11: Route vers Page

Baignade, Kayak sur le lac

Alstrom Point en soirée

Wahweap Campground

JOUR 12: Lower Antelope Canyon en début de matinée

Spencer Trail

Horseshoe Bend

Stud Horse Point en soirée

Wahweap Campground

JOUR 13: Matinée: Cathedral Wash Trail jusqu'au Colorado

Route vers Coal Mine Canyon (besoin d'un guide navajo???)

Hotel à Tuba City.

JOUR 14: Route vers Williams en passant par le Grand Canyon rive sud.

Hermist Road ou peut-être descendre un peu dans le canyon si les enfants ont toujours la forme😉

Camping Williams

JOUR 15: Route vers Las Vegas en passant par un bout de route 66

Seligman, Kingman

Fremont Street le soir

JOUR 16 et 17: Las Vegas: piscine, casinos, spectacle cirque du soleil et Red Rock Canyon un soir.

JOUR 18: Route vers Valley of Fire

Baignade dans le Lac Mead (Stewarts Point)

Boucle des 7 merveilles dans VoF

Camping de VoF

JOUR 19: Matinée: Valley of Fire: loop road

Pique-nique et route vers ST-George

Snow Canyon

Camping St-George

JOUR 20: Red Cliffs dans la matinée.

Yant Flat en fin d'après-midi

Camping St-George

JOUR 21: Rando Kanarra Creek le matin

Cedar Breaks NM dans l'après-midi

KOA Cedar City

JOUR 22: Zion Nord: The Subway?

ou autre rando

KOA Cedar City

JOUR 23: Route vers Zion South Campground puis Canyon overlook trail le matin

The Narrows en fin d'après-midi

Camping

JOUR 24: Matinée: East Mesa Trail dans Zion

Route vers Colorado City

Camping

JOUR 25: Grosse rando ce jour: White Domes par le Squirrel Canyon

Camping

JOUR 26: Route vers le Grand Canyon rive Nord.

Différents points de vue au bout de petites randos?

Bright Angel Trail au sunset

GC Lodge

JOUR 27: Une dernière rando sur la rive nord du GC le matin

Pique_nique puis route vers Kanab

Trail dans CBN ou CBS

Camping RV Park Crazy Horse

JOUR 28: Matinée: loterie The Wave pour le lendemain (chances très minces je sais.....)

White Pocket + Cottonwood Cove avec un Outfitter...

Camping RV Park Crazy Horse

JOUR 29: The Wave ou loterie pour le lendemain...

sinon Edmaier Secret + Buckskin

Camping RV Park Crazy Horse

JOUR 30: Direction la région de Bryce Canyon en passant par la Cottonwood Road

Yellow Rock, White Valley, Grosvenor Arch, Willis Creek

Hotel près de Bryce Canyon

JOUR 31: Fairyland loop dans Bryce Canyon

Pique-nique, Mossy Cave trailhead

différents point de vue sur l'amphithéatre en soirée

JOUR 32: Hole in the Rock Road

Zebra Slot Canyon le matin

Pique-nique à Devil's Garden

Broken Bow Arch

Bivouac à Sunset Arch

JOUR 33: Hole in the Rock retour

Peek A Boo Canyon + Dry Fork

Upper Calf Creek

Hotel près de Boulder

JOUR 34: Lower Calf Creek en matinée puis pique_nique

Burr Trail Road avec la rando Strike Valley Overlook

Camping à la marina de Bullfrog

JOUR 35: Leprechaun Canyon en matinée

Pique-nique dans l'alcôve de Wild Horse Window

Little Wild Horse Canyon dans l'après-midi

Goblin Valley en soirée

Camping du Parc

JOUR 36: Factory Butte et Moonscape Overlook le matin

Pique-nique à Fruita puis Cohab Canyon dans l'après-midi

Sunset point puis hotel à Torrey.

JOUR 37: Trail Navajo Knobs + Pique_nique + Hickman Natural Bridge

Piste de Cathedral Valley en passant par Caineville

Cathedral Campground.

JOUR 38: Cathedral campground - Moab

Temple overlook trail en matinée

pique-nique près des temples puis route vers Moab.

JOURS 39 à 43: 5 jours complets à Moab pour explorer Arches NP et Canyonlands NP et les alentours de Moab. A potasser très sérieusement...

JOUR 44: Moab - Fruita dans le Colorado NM

Rattlesnake Canyon Trail

Camping Saddlehorn

JOUR 45: Fruita - Telluride

Profiter des rives du Colorado NM au réveil puis route vers Black Canyon of Gunnison: points de vue de la rive sud

Last Dollar Road

et si un peu de temps, pourquoi pas Bridal Falls à Telluride

Camping

JOUR 46: Telluride - Silverton via Mesa Verde NM

Spruce Tree House et...

Hotel

JOUR 47: Silverton - Crested Butte

Perimeter Trail à Ouray + sources chaudes?

points de vue de la rive nord de Black Canyon

Camping

JOUR 48: Crested Butte - Glenwood Springs via la Kebler Pass

Repos dans les sources chaudes de Glenwood Springs

Hotel

JOUR 49: Glenwood Springs - Aspen

Hanging Lake Trail

Camping près d'Aspen

JOUR 50: Aspen - Leadville

Maroon Lake Trail tôt le matin pour aller photographier les Maroon Bells

Route vers Leadville via le Col de l'indépendance.

Camping près du Turquoise Lake

JOURS 51 à 53: Route vers Denver et visite de la ville durant 2 jours, départ le 53ème jour...

Quel hôtel à Denver?

Voila pour le périple! Merci encore à tous ceux qui interviendront et qui rendront ce voyage encore plus abouti!

Bons périples à tous

Amicalement

Sylvain
Idées pour tracer notre itinéraire de 53 jours dans l'Ouest américain
by Scot2021 · 2019-10-27 · 31 replies
Bonjour à tous!

Tout d'abord, merci à tous ceux qui ont écrit un carnet de voyage sur ce forum, je les lis depuis plusieurs mois afin d'y pêcher un maximum d'idées pour tracer notre itinéraire; merci également à tous les habitués de l'Ouest américain qui prennent de leur temps pour intervenir très souvent sur ce forum afin d'aider les novices... Novices que nous ne sommes pas puisque nous sommes allés en 2008 faire un circuit classique de trois semaines ... et cela nous avait tellement marqué que nous voulons le faire découvrir à nos deux garçons.

Je vous présente rapidement la famille pour que vous ayez une idée des paramètres influents sur nos futures activités! Sylvain et Caroline , enseignants quarantenaires et sportifs, Tom, 12 ans au moment du voyage, sportif et Oscar, 7 ans en 2021 et déjà bon petit randonneur à 5 ans!

Je voudrais donc vous soumettre notre itinéraire déjà tracé et travaillé et savoir si, pour vous, c'est cohérent d'une part, réalisable d'autre part et si on passe à côté de quelque chose! Je recherche aussi des plans B, voire C en cas de mauvaise météo, fatigue, ...

Je pense mettre entre 3 et 6 jours de périples à la fois.

Au plaisir de vous lire et en espérant des idées nouvelles, des critiques ... constructives!

Bon dimanche!

Amicalement

Sylvain

Ps: les 6 premiers jours dans le post suivant😛
Codes de réduction pour locations de voitures aux États-Unis
by Usafan · 2019-08-08 · 221 replies
Comme la discussion ci-dessous a été victime de son succès :

https://voyageforum.com/discussion/codes-reduction-location-voiture-etats-unis-d7669388/

Et comme proposé par le modérateur Voyageforum, je lance une nouvelle discussion où chacun pourra proposer des codes de réduction a jour (Il est vrai que ça devenait difficile de trouver des codes qui marchaient toujours).

A votre bon coeur !...

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