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Assurance voiture à la frontière russe
by Litchi49 · 2019-02-07 · 17 replies
Bonjour à tous!

Au mois d'avril, je m'en vais avec mon ami sur le routes de Russie avec mon propre véhicule. Petite question de formalité : peut-on encore acheter une assurance véhicule à la frontière Russe?

Mon assurance voiture actuelle ne couvre pas la Russie (ni même jusqu'à l'Oural), afin de me simplifier les formalités j'aimerai m'assurer qu'il n'y ait pas trop de difficultés à acheter une assurance véhicule à la frontière.

Merci d'avance pour vos réponses!
Formalités pour entrer en Géorgie en venant de Russie avec notre fourgon
by CatherineGil · 2018-10-21 · 2 replies
Bonjour,

Notre itinéraire se précise 🙂 Finalement ça sera Montpellier Moscou vi la Biélorussie ; Moscou Lac Baïkal ; Lac Baïkal Géorgie ; Géorgie Arménie, Turquie ... en 5 Ou 6 mois.

Quelqu'un pourrait-il nous renseigner sur les formalités d'entrée en Géorgie depuis la Russie ?

Mille merci 🙂
Voyage en Ouzbékistan
by Cecil1 · 2018-08-07 · 25 replies
Bonjour,

T a t-il parmi vous quelqu'un qui a l'expérience d'un voyage en voiture de la France vers l'Ouzbékistan? Est-ce faisable ? Si oui dans quelles conditions? Comment obtenir les visas? L'Ouzbékistan est-il un pays sûr du point de vue sécurité? Merci d'avance.
Voyage à plusieurs camping-cars en direction de l’Asie Centrale en 2019
by OmarChewel · 2018-08-07 · 15 replies
Voyage à plusieurs camping-cars en 2019 en direction de l’Asie centrale.

Nous avons l’intention, ma femme et moi, d’entreprendre en 2019 un voyage en Asie centrale en camping-car (le nôtre est un Citroën Jumper 2,8 HDI). Nous souhaitons échanger avec d’autres personnes et pourquoi pas, avec celles qui ont un projet identique, réaliser ensemble une partie du parcours. A celles et ceux qui ont passé quelques temps dans ces pays, merci de nous faire part de vos expériences en camping-car, notamment concernant l’hébergement (surtout l’Ouzbékistan).
Scandinavian Road Trip, July 2018
by Dj93 · 2018-08-03 · 24 replies
EDITOR’S NOTE: As with every travel journal I publish, I won’t force anyone to agree with my comments—they’re my own, I share my feelings, and that’s it. Your comments are, of course, welcome, but I’ll refrain from responding to any hint of controversy, as has happened in the past.



For the summer holidays of 2018, we decided to take a break from long-haul, transcontinental trips. They’re expensive and exhausting, and this year, we also had to consider our young student’s limited vacation days. So, it was a short 14-day circuit in Scandinavia. Very quickly, I had to abandon the unrealistic idea of driving door-to-door with our personal car (unlike last year—see my "Balkan Stroll" story). Too many kilometers and stops. Still, crossing Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia before taking a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki and Finland was tempting—what a shame.



As usual, I planned ahead and started booking in early February for a mid-July departure, typically the best time weather-wise for this destination. Browsing tour operator catalogs didn’t offer much insight—just the usual circuits. Most aim for the North Cape, but we didn’t have time for that. First, via Expedia, we booked our flight tickets: Paris to Stockholm, Helsinki to Paris for the return (880 euros for three), plus a domestic flight from Oulu to Helsinki in Finland (220 euros). The unanimous advice was that there’s not much to see between the two cities, so this saved us a night’s accommodation and a day of car rental. However, the "drop-off" fees (not returning the car to the country of origin) were unavoidable. Out of 1,100 euros for 12 days of rental, this fee was significant—I say this from memory because I never received a detailed document or even the contract itself after picking up the car, despite my complaints. That said, Holiday Autos offered the best rates at the time with Hertz. Plus, I think we were unknowingly upgraded to a Volvo XC 40 T5 automatic, packed with electronics and an incredibly efficient GPS (so I lugged around my updated TomTom for nothing). I wasn’t used to it, and I’ll come back to that. For 50 euros, I also booked one of the many mandatory ferry crossings in Norway—unless you want to drive kilometers around the countless fjords. Specifically, the Bognes-Lødingen route to reach the Lofoten Islands, a must-see in Norway (though not necessarily the best choice I made—I’ll come back to that). Then, gradually via Booking.com, I reserved hotel accommodations, which wasn’t easy at reasonable prices. For three people, it’s nearly impossible to find a room with three real beds—often a sofa bed or even two separate rooms!!!! Norway isn’t a budget-friendly destination for us, yet French tourists are everywhere—groups or families traveling independently. Okay, you’re probably wondering when I’ll get started—I’m getting there... First up, Stockholm, a two-hour flight from Paris. A first for us: we’d gotten used to online check-in within 30 hours of the flight and sometimes printing our boarding passes. But, as progress never stops, at Roissy, we now also print our baggage tags at a kiosk, then place them on the conveyor belt ourselves, scan the barcode with the handheld scanner, and watch the luggage disappear—hoping it doesn’t get misrouted. With all this reduced staff, I hope ticket prices will drop. What? Huh? I’m naive... Okay, fine! Plus, during the flight, don’t expect any snacks—everything’s paid for now, except for water and coffee. I didn’t think I was on a low-cost flight!!! Picking up the car at Arlanda Airport went smoothly, except the contract signed on a tablet (progress, right?) was never emailed to me as promised—too bad... The Volvo SUV packed with electronics: as usual, aside from adjusting the mirrors and seat, I didn’t bother learning all the features and accessories for better handling. So, from the start, I felt jerky movements in the steering, independent of my control. The white-line detection was activated and corrected my direction whenever I got too close... And that’s not all—there’s also driving assistance. Besides the speed limiter, the car accelerates or brakes on its own based on the distance from the vehicle ahead. You still have to keep your hands on the wheel, though—too bad, we could’ve played cards and let it drive itself. When you slow down, if you signal to overtake and turn the wheel, it accelerates to pass. Soon, we won’t even need a driver’s license... Not to mention the little light in the side mirror to signal vehicles in the "blind spot"—very useful. But given the excessively strict speed limits in these parts, it’s still handy. I’ll unfortunately come back to this later!!!!!! In the end, we covered 4,700 km in 8 days of actual travel—no small feat!!!!!! Stockholm: still loyal to the hop-on-hop-off sightseeing buses (or the reverse), I booked our tickets online with a discount. It remains (for us) one of the best ways to visit and get around big cities. The tourist attractions aren’t that numerous. Forty kilometers from the airport, we reached our hotel, Clarion Amaranten. At reception, we were told our reservation was for four days, not two. I insisted, and they told me to call Booking.com to fix it—they couldn’t do anything themselves. Luckily, a nice blonde understood the situation and asked where we were from to lighten the mood. For me, it worked... After a few minutes of back-and-forth, we realized a namesake had booked at the same time. I think the intern got mixed up—oh well. We finally dropped off our bags and headed out under the sun for the included boat tour. It’s beautiful and relaxing under 26°C. We glided past massive cruise ships, very common in these Nordic countries, especially for fjord tours.



We passed Djurgården, one of the city’s 14 islands, home to the Tivoli amusement park and several museums, including the ABBA Museum and the Vasa Museum. I’m not talking about the crispy sandwiches sold since 1919 but the infamous warship that sank in the harbor on its maiden voyage in 1628 after sailing just a few hundred meters. Its intact hull was salvaged in 1961, and since then, it’s one of Sweden’s most visited museums. The country is a quarter smaller than France and has 10 million inhabitants, mostly in the three big cities (Stockholm, Gothenburg, Malmö). The rest is empty, filled with lakes and forests. The currency is the krona, with 1 euro worth about 10 SEK. Dinner in the Old Town consisted of a so-called Viking burger (more like a kebab) and meatballs—the famous Swedish meatballs with potatoes, just like at IKEA... I have to say, here, it seems the Vikings have long been just blond heads—I get it... It still cost us 550 SEK. A beer alone costs at least 9 euros!!!!

DAY 2. Sunny skies. After a hearty buffet breakfast with salmon, herring in all forms, eggs, cold cuts, bread, and pastries (don’t worry, the classics are there), we started the day by visiting the City Hall tower, famous for hosting the Nobel Prizes (except the Peace Prize, awarded in Oslo). At 106 meters tall, with 365 steps and 9 clocks, it weighs twice as much as the Eiffel Tower. Access is at fixed times in small groups for safety. You can climb up to 73 meters for a 360° view of the city. Next, we visited the Royal Palace, still the official residence of the King of Sweden, and its Treasury (entry: 160 SEK). We skipped the 12:15 PM changing of the guard—three-quarters of an hour before, dozens of onlookers were already crowding the front rows in the sun.



So, we took our favorite bus to rest a bit and tour the city. We also took the subway to see several "decorated" stations—love it or hate it, but it’s original. In the late afternoon, we returned to the Old Town and its Gamla Stan to find some souvenirs, even if it feels more like Bollywood than Viking country, complete with music in the shops—a nice sign of integration... One of the first things that surprised us was the very light car traffic—no traffic jams in this capital. But there are tons of electric and regular bikes, skateboards, and scooters. Also, lots of roadwork and housing construction—apparently a big need. For dinner (our only meal of the day), we treated ourselves to something local at Borgmästaren (Stora Nygatan 35). DECIDEDLY, I’M TELLING YOU EVERYTHING...

DAYS 3 & 4. Contrary to what I was told upon arrival, the hotel parking (700 SEK for 2 nights) didn’t open at 7:00 AM but at 9:00 AM on Saturday. After having to call myself (the French-speaking African receptionist couldn’t do it for me, especially after I told him I thought Croatia would win against France in the World Cup final), the kind parking attendant (partnered with the hotel—there’s the catch) arrived early and let us leave at 8:30 AM to start our east-to-west route to Norway and Oslo, 530 km away, finally beginning our summer adventure. At the border, absolutely no checks, and on the road, aside from lakes and forests, not much to see. However, tolls are very common—don’t overlook this in your budget. In Sweden, everything’s covered by the rental company, but not in other countries. In Norway, there are many automatic toll sections—cameras film your license plate and send you the bill later. So, you must register online at www.epcplc.com/rental, with or without your credit card details, and wait for the final bill. As of now, I haven’t received it, but after noting almost all of them, it should easily reach 200 euros. Roads, tunnels, and bridges are often toll-based to fund maintenance or new constructions. We reached the Norwegian capital at 3:00 PM and checked into our room. Small hiccup: the hotel parking, not reservable, was full on Saturday. Parking meters only take coins for a max of 2 hours. Luckily, tomorrow’s Sunday—free parking from 8:00 PM until Monday morning. After circling the neighborhood, I finally found a spot for my little car—even if it’s not mine, I still care about it...



The Thon Slottsparken Hotel is slightly off-center, but a little walking won’t hurt. The nearby Hertz agency was closed—too bad, I would’ve liked to complain about still not receiving my rental contract by email... With the nice weather, we started with a walking tour of the main sights: the palace, Karl Johans gate (the main street), and some souvenir shopping to fill the display cases back home—if there’s space. We also visited the deserted Akershus Fortress, where two poor young soldiers stood guard in the scorching sun. Below it, the World Cup final fan zone was being set up. Dinner was at Rorbua for 90 euros—ouch. Hard to find, tucked away from the harbor pier. We skipped the paid ascent of the city’s only "tower" with a panoramic view—tickets had to be paid by credit card, and given the fees my bank charges, I’d had enough. Note that card payments are widely accepted here, even for small amounts. When I tried to get change in cash for a 50-euro equivalent bill, some café owners were embarrassed.

DAY 4. After discussion, we planned the day: first up, one of Oslo’s must-sees, the Vigeland Sculpture Park, featuring bronze, granite, and cast-iron works by Gustav Vigeland (1869–1943). Given the distance, we took the tram—some cars still had their old-school charm!!!! Despite the early hour, hordes of Asian tourists were already there, making photo-taking a nightmare—same everywhere they go. The park is a matter of taste... The 17-meter monolith with 121 intertwined bodies is remarkable, and rightly so. Lazy, we took the tram again to save time—same name, tight schedule. I stopped by the Hertz agency, where the overwhelmed employee promised to try to help. Given his enthusiasm, I doubted it. From the start, I’ve really felt the welcome here, at least for French visitors, isn’t great. Remember my previous reports—it’s becoming a habit. Tourist brochures aren’t available in French here either—strange... Anyway, we took a relaxing fjord cruise. Besides the quirky opera house, the beautiful summer homes on the islands were really tempting. Next, with another paid boat, we headed to the Bygdøy peninsula and its museums. We skipped the Viking Ship Museum in favor of the Norwegian Folk Museum. It features different buildings from across the country, by era and region. Unfortunately, few actors in period costumes—common in this type of tourist attraction. Its real highlight is the stave church, very beautiful. On this late Sunday afternoon, bars and restaurants competed to become World Cup 2018 fan zones—crowds everywhere. So, we decided to head back to rest and catch a glimpse of the African French team against Croatia. It’ll go down in history: a 4-2 victory, with a beautiful goal by Lloris... Go "Les Bleus"—I get it...

DAY 5. Oslo to Bergen: 450 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. The real journey begins. Departure at 7:00 AM after sleeping in and a mediocre breakfast. Arrival at 5:00 PM—yes, driving’s slow... More tolls, but under 26°C, the real beauty starts around Geilo. First real fjord—it’s stunning. Then those houses with vegetated roofs blending perfectly into the landscape, sometimes nearly invisible... (Not bad, right? And it’s all me!!!)



We also discovered tunnels with "indoor roundabouts" and underground roads crossing—never seen that before!! We followed the shores of Lake Tyrifjord and the Hallingdal valleys. After Geilo, views of the Hardangerjøkulen glacier (achoo!) and the Vøringfossen waterfall (Norway’s highest at 163 meters) and Steinsdalsfossen in the Hardangerfjord (the country’s second-longest). Bergen, Norway’s second city, is built between seven mountains. Aside from the colorful old docks along the wharf, there’s not much to see. At the market, stalls of fresh fish, jars of various fish eggs (all called "caviar" here), and cold cuts made from reindeer, moose, and whale.



For 10 euros per person, we queued for the steep funicular for a great view of the city. Dinner was at "Fish Me," very busy. The salmon looked appetizing, and my first whale steak for 27 euros was... interesting. Our hotel, Augustin, is near the center. They charged me 150 NOK to park in the nearby public lot...

DAY 6. Bøverdalen, our evening stop, was less than 300 km away, but along the way, we had our first two scenic routes and first ferry crossing. When I got back in the car, I noticed the seagulls—rightful tenants of the harbor—had turned it into a Picasso painting overnight... First stop in Voss to peek inside its Vangskyrkja church (for a fee). The mural icons all have a marked squint, making the angels on the ceiling smile—quite the original touch. In 1277, it shocked people.



Gudvangen at the end of the Nærøyfjord offers beautiful views and a waterfall. An 11 km tunnel took us to Aurland and the Sognefjord, the king of fjords at 180 km long. Then we took Route 243 to Lærdal instead of a second long tunnel. A 47 km very narrow road with no passing except in designated spots. Buses, RVs, and trailers were in the mix—between backing up and moving forward, how do you expect me to... pass? At some spots, I had to "burn some oil" (non-edible). The beautiful viewpoints along Jotunheimen Park and its high peaks were hard-earned.



By midday, the 26°C of previous days gave way to 11°C with downpours and gusts. To reach Kaupanger, its stave church, and Route 55 (108 km), we took the Fodnes-Mannheller ferry for 119 kr (about 13 euros) for a 20-minute crossing. For these short trips, rotations are frequent, and wait times are short. The Sognefjellet route took us along lakes and snow-capped peaks—too bad the weather wasn’t cooperating. In Bøverdalen, in the middle of nowhere, we reached the Elveseter Hotel, the only one in the area, and it was packed. Luckily, it’s big. Recent reviews had us a bit worried, but personally, all the well-maintained wooden buildings gave the place charm. Our two small, simple rooms had character, and the common areas’ decor was interesting—a pile of antiques... Unless you dine on-site (reservations required for one of two sittings), the only option is to drive 20 km to Lom to see its beautiful stave church—but we didn’t go in (7 euros per person, and that’s enough). Dinner was three pizzas for 70 euros—yes, it’s expensive here.



Note that in most establishments, bars, or restaurants, you have to order and pay at the counter yourself. A *stavkirke* or *stavkyrkje* (in Norwegian Bokmål and Nynorsk) is a medieval wooden church typical of Norway, though excavations suggest similar churches may have existed elsewhere in Northern Europe. About 1,300 medieval churches were recorded, with 28 preserved in Norway. In French, they’re called "églises en bois debout" (standing wood churches) because masts or posts support the roof and nave elevation, as well as the walls. The stave church is one of the most elaborate and technically advanced types of wooden construction in Northwestern Europe during the Middle Ages. This technique is represented by the Urnes Stave Church (a UNESCO World Heritage Site), Borgund (the best-preserved in its medieval form), and 25 others—from the largest, Heddal, to the smallest, Undredal, in the stunning Sognefjord, plus a few others in Northwestern Europe.

DAY 7. Heading to Trondheim—supposedly 320 km, but with detours, it was nearly 550. Unpredictable weather until about 1:00 PM, but it’s better because it’s the day of the "triples": 3 scenic routes, 3 ferries, and 3 "underwater" tunnels. No rush—here, there’s no need to "hurry to arrive before night" because as you head north, the sun lingers and sets less and less, eventually not setting at all. First, in Grotli, we took the 27 km of Route 258, *Gamle Strynefjellsvegen* (achoo), also very narrow and unpaved in the first section. Luckily, campers and RVs aren’t early risers—otherwise, I’d have had to make not just oil but olives this time. We only passed four other users. However, despite the early hour, local road workers were already on the job, and we had to ask the excavators to move several times to let us pass. At Langvatnet, we joined Route 63, called the Eagle Road here—mediocre, except for Geiranger at the end of the narrowest fjord in the country. A cruise ship had just unloaded its passengers, who rushed into the few shops. After the Eidsdal-Linge ferry (10 minutes) and Gudbrandsjuvet with its waterfalls, we tackled the famous Trollstigen (Troll’s Path), winding and very touristy. Coming from the south, we descended it. Mandatory photo stop at the tourist center and its impressive walkway. The descent into the valley was tough—the bus driver ahead of us must’ve been disabled, blind, and quadriplegic, taking two tries at every hairpin turn, causing a traffic jam behind and for those "going up" waiting at passing spots!!!



On Route 64, we took the Åfarnes-Solnes ferry instead of the initially planned 660 because my young passenger insisted on part of the "Atlantic Road." From what we’d read on blogs, only the last 11 km are spectacular, with arched bridges connecting islets. So, in Molde, we headed to Eide, then Vevang—beautiful but nothing more. The rain spoiled the scenery. Quick photo stop in Kristiansund, then a long underwater tunnel and the Kanestraum-Halsa ferry (7 km, 20 minutes) to reach the E39 toward Trondheim.



We all agreed that all these wooden houses and churches reminded us of the U.S. in their architecture—especially since, like there, a flagpole with the national flag often stands in front of homes. Trondheim, Norway’s third city, doesn’t have much to see. A university town in the country’s center, aside from its Nidaros Cathedral (closed when we arrived late), its wooden bridge, and colorful old docks on pilings—nothing else. Even finding food was complicated. As for accommodation, Booking.com had forgotten to mention that the Nidaros Pilgrimsgard is a "pilgrim hostel" on the Camino de Santiago. Monastic atmosphere and spartan rooms for reflection—same for the frugal breakfast in silence... Anyway... Luckily, the night before, in a kitschy place run by hip youngsters, I’d stocked up on a hearty assortment of marinated herring with aquavit that burned the rest of my esophagus. (BAKLANDET SKYDSSTATION) I’m really doing all the work for you...

DAY 8. Heading to Mo i Rana—633 km actually covered instead of the planned 480 through Nord-Trøndelag!!! After Steinkjer and its fjord, we decided to take Route 763, parallel to the E6, for less traffic and to see pretty mountain villages. We also stopped in Bola to see a petroglyph (Stone Age rock carving) of a reindeer. After Medja, we skipped Kjerringfoss and Europe’s largest salmon ladder (paid access). Instead, via the Holm-Vennesund ferry, we took a bit of the scenic Route 17 before reaching Mosjøen and Mo i Rana (too many ferries if you do the whole route). Along the way, we saw reindeer and moose relaxing on the road several times. Mo i Rana is small. The Ole Tobias Hotel was packed, and parking was complicated. For dinner, we crossed the street to "No. 3," the only option. Two spicy bacalao and a whale steak cost us 90 euros... At this rate, I had to find an ATM to finish the Norwegian stay properly. The 2,000 euros exchanged before leaving (at 9.28) were already partially gone. Cigarettes cost 13 euros a pack here—twice as much as in Sweden—while unleaded gas is 1.85 euros per liter.

DAY 9. Heading to the main event of the trip: the Lofoten Islands. First programming mistake: not studying the subject well, I preferred a shorter ferry crossing from further north on the mainland. But that also meant arriving further north on the islands.



I booked for 50 euros (vehicle, driver, and two passengers included on the official Torghatten Nord site) for Bognes-Lødingen—a one-hour crossing. I should’ve left from Bodø to Leknes or better yet Moskenes and the town of Å for three hours—it would’ve saved time by avoiding the drive north and crossing to the south before heading back up the islands. Luckily, we still managed two different routes. Fortunately, the great weather returned, and I have to say, IT’S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY... BEAUTIFUL... Memory cards are melting—not just from the heat.



Two things worked in our favor, if I may say so, and countered my little blunder: first, I’d booked the 2:30 PM ferry, but arriving at the departure at noon, we easily took the earlier one—two hours saved. With the longer crossings, rotations with only two boats are much less frequent (8 to 12 per day depending on the season, vs. 6 to 8 for the southern route). Second, after Mo i Rana, we crossed the Arctic Circle, and today, the sun only "sets" from 12:20 AM to 1:50 AM. What luck! With a 7:40 AM departure (after sleeping in), I could drive until 11:00 PM easy!!!!!! And cover only 740 km!!!!!! Here, winters don’t drop below zero, but from early November to late January, it’s night almost all the time, with a supposed daylight clarity from 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM like a rainy day back home. But apparently, the northern lights and reflections on the snow also provide light!! I’d love to see that, but I’ll have to come back... We crisscrossed everything humanly possible, sometimes stopping abruptly in the middle of the road for photos—much to the locals’ dismay, but they’re used to the madness of temporary invaders enchanted by the place... These steep mountains "falling" into the water with all those colorful "rorbu" villages are magnificent. Rorbu are traditional fishermen’s cabins on stilts by the water, which over time have become the must-stay accommodation here—many have never housed any fishermen!!! The villages follow one after another, each more beautiful than the last. In Nusfjord, in season, pedestrians are even charged an access fee between 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM. At 7:00 PM, the booth was closed—lucky us, no crowd. The ochre wooden facades are beautiful, but don’t get too close—the seagulls nest there and see any approach as aggression. The result? Bomb-like droppings that can leave unpleasant memories. Go peek inside the grocery store—it’s kept its old-world charm. With the season, the many cod drying racks are empty. The hour turned, and our southward journey stopped in Reine—too bad for Å, not far, but fatigue got the better of me. We had to "go back up" to Kabelvåg for our rorbu at Nyvågar. We’d stocked up on groceries to eat quietly in this cozy little place (very small single beds upstairs).

DAY 10. We headed back north on the islands to reach Tromsø (grandiosely nicknamed the "Paris of the North"), with a late 7:50 AM departure despite 450 km to cover—things are getting lax at the end of the trip!!! However, this stop didn’t reveal much of interest—it’s the lake region, but meh. Tour operators include it as the last stop toward the far north. Aside from the Målselvfossen waterfall and its (paid) salmon ladder, nothing to report. We arrived at 3:00 PM, and the second room in our Quality Saga Hotel wasn’t ready yet. Plus, the parking we’d requested wasn’t accessible—the eight spots were taken. Even in this small town, free and easy parking is rare. Two souvenir shops and a main street (Storgata)—that’s it. Not to mention a nice storm that cooled things down. The only curiosity is the church, but it’s closed and under renovation—the exterior scaffolding ruins the only photo opportunity here. Otherwise, the Arctic Cathedral is visible from afar—that’s enough for us. The sun only sets for 20 minutes, from 12:40 AM to 1:00 AM!!!!! Last note before leaving this country: every morning at the breakfast buffet with all those eggs, I asked for a Norwegian omelet. Believe it or not, they don’t know the recipe for a Norwegian omelet!!!! 😏😛😉

DAY 11. Heading to Finland (with an extra hour time difference) and Rovaniemi, self-proclaimed official Santa Claus Village—it’s not nice to play on kids’ heartstrings for money!!!! On the 400 km of road (that or avoiding the Lofoten), nothing to see except two sad "Sami" shops. But there’s also AND ESPECIALLY: The run-in with a police radar mounted on the dashboard to welcome me to this country: alone, on a straight, flat road in the middle of the forest, I had this privilege—especially at a spot limited to 80 km/h instead of 100 as I thought. Of course, most well-meaning readers will think: serves him right... Only here’s the thing: in Finland, for years, speeding fines depend on the "Päiväsakko," meaning based on your income and number of children, a subtle calculation of average daily money is made and multiplied proportionally to the estimated severity of the offense... Ignorant of this, I naively but honestly answered the questions. The result? The fine was enormous—I won’t say the amount out of shame, but especially out of hatred for this country that ruined my vacation. Others like me, potential murderers, have been fined up to 170,000 euros (I wrote ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND EUROS) for a 40 km/h speeding offense!!!! I hope the clowns running France quickly adopt this particularly SOCIAL measure. Let the lazy and parasites of the country freely enjoy the road in their BMWs and MERCs!!! Let me tell you, I’ll spend my savings elsewhere in the future. So, a tip: be as dishonest as these conscientious police—say you’re unemployed with five kids, and maybe they’ll give you money!!!!! I’m really disgusted. No wonder in this nothing-to-see town, drivers sheepishly drive in a "little train" at 40 behind an RV without anyone daring to overtake. I think sometimes human stupidity should have limits, and the word freedom should regain its meaning!!! To those who understand, cheers. And as written at the start: trolls, abstain. I stand by what I said and sign it. After this brutal introduction to Finnish discriminatory laws, you can imagine Rovaniemi and its two-bit Santa Claus—I couldn’t care less. Even under the storm, at 6:00 PM on Sunday, even in summer, the scammer shops and profiteers of the Santa Claus Village (conveniently located on the Arctic Circle...) were already closed. Good riddance!!! The Arctic City Hotel is fine. I struggled to swallow my Tex-Mex at Pancho Villa (local chain).

DAY 12. Toward Oulu via Tornio, 200 km, and again, nothing to see in this land of lakes and forests. Detour and only photo stop in Tervola for a wooden church—my vacation is officially ruined... The Cumulus City Hotel is fine in this pleasant but empty and dull city, though it’s a university and tech hub. To cheer myself up, we splurged on a supposedly Viking meal at Harald—don’t know if the recipes are authentic, but my "Viking" knowledge stops at Vik, the animated boobs... Anyway, it’s good, unusual, and hearty.

DAY 13. After struggling to fill the tank (no station open with cash payment, only cards), we returned the chariot at the airport. The offices weren’t open yet at this early hour (8:35 AM flight), so I left the key in a mailbox without any inspection—I didn’t like that at all. I thought we’d get a propeller plane, but it was a well-filled Airbus. One-hour flight to Helsinki, the capital. Impossible to get clear information on buses to the city center, 40 km away. So, for 37 euros, we took a taxi with a trunk big enough for our three suitcases and three "cabin" bags. I’m not counting the cost anymore. At 10:00 AM, we could finally check into our large triple room at the Cumulus City Hotel on Hakaniemi Square—again, despite the size, with a fold-out armchair bed. Off to visit our last city, with the obvious purchase—you guessed it—a 24-hour bus ticket with a 1.5-hour mini-cruise for 43 euros per person...



The boat tour showed that the standard of living seems high here too—summer homes (or not) on the islands are very beautiful. A small canal was even dug to save these lucky owners time on maritime transport. Apartments sell for a fortune. Back at Market Square, we grabbed a snack at the market—a reindeer kebab with dried reindeer, cheese, and a mini cracker—simple but delicious. No time to waste—ours is limited. Even if there’s not much to see tourist-wise. Four churches compete: the very busy and beautiful Helsinki Cathedral (better outside than in), its direct rival the Orthodox Uspenski Cathedral (same), the Rock Church (Temppeliaukio) and the Wooden Church (Kampin)—both as beautiful inside as out!!! Here too, very little car traffic, but tons of people—tourists or not—and joggers. In the evening, a bit tired, we headed to the off-center hotel to try the Scandinavian Hesburger chain. For connoisseurs and 29 euros, decent fries and burgers resembling Burger King’s—while the other American giant is left behind. Personal taste, I guess. The next day, we took the bus tour again, passing the Parliament and the controversial Sibelius Monument—a 24-ton pile of clanging iron pipes. Then, to kill time, we headed to Linnanmäki amusement park, on a hill overlooking the city. Rides are packed together, and a new one appears every year. Mostly family-oriented, but two or three thrill rides were packed. Despite my advancing age, I gave it a try—obviously regretted it afterward... Europe’s oldest wooden roller coaster (1950) shows the genius of its creators, with a brakeman at the back—worth the detour and passes the time. We ate (if you can call it that) on-site for 19 euros. Back "in town," classic shopping centers are numerous, but souvenir shops can be counted on one hand. No matter—we had to pack because tomorrow’s the return. We ate burgers again near the hotel and Hes... but served at the table for 67 euros. The next morning, to kill time before the 4:00 PM flight, we went to the port and its tourist market, where I splurged 15 euros on a cap to add to (or clutter) my already well-stocked collection. We finally learned that bus 615 goes to the airport, with a stop in front of our hotel where the luggage was left in storage after checking out. Still, count 40 minutes with this indirect route. Via an Air France flight operated by Finnair, after 3 hours, we returned to Roissy CDG—our vacation is truly over!!!!!!

CONCLUSION (if I may) Among the three capitals we visited, our unanimous ranking is: Oslo, Helsinki, and Stockholm—period. Despite a few imperfections in my itinerary, I’d say the Lofoten Islands are really worth it—two days on-site is a minimum. Finland, and not just because of the radars, is way below—nothing to see tourist-wise. I didn’t say nothing to do for those with time—nuance... Norwegian fjords, even if once you’ve seen one, you’ve seen them all, are really beautiful, though this destination is quite expensive for us. Norway, thanks to its oil and gas, is very wealthy, near full employment, with an annual GDP per capita of 70,000 euros!!! A pack of cigarettes at 13 euros and beer at 10 euros doesn’t make this a dream destination for an addict like me. We were very lucky with the weather—only two and a half days of rain over 14, unlike many bloggers whose stories I read before leaving. The welcome wasn’t always what we expected. Despite the massive French presence, we’re not always as welcome as Asian conquerors, to whom the West, racing to its doom, continues to roll out the red carpet—literally! I don’t regret our choice—it’s worth seeing once, but only once. At least now we know what we’re talking about!!!!! Finally, as always, here’s the link to my public slideshow on YouTube. For the private one, some spicy scenes (especially with Santa and a troll) could cause me more problems—I’ve had enough!!! www.youtube.com/...zbIgZC6Pk&t=165s See you soon, maybe for new adventures and getaways. DJ93.
Périple sauvage à pied France / Europe
by Shortlif · 2018-07-09 · 4 replies
Bonjour, j ai enfin un peu plus clarifié ma situation et je sais exactement dorénavant comment je vais constituer mon voyage ^^ Depuis le temps que je me prépare, il etait temps que je puisse enfin gouter a quelque chose de sain et de naturel ! Surtout que pour moi, c est bien plus qu un reve, c est un BESOIN VITAL d aspirer/absorber cet univers et de le pénétrer, ainsi que de pouvoir me sentir bien plus libre de mes faits et gestes, si je n accomplie pas ca pacifiquement et avec cette soif de vie qui me démange, je me serais battu tel un animal déchainé désirant sortir de son étroite cage, pour rien ...

En revanche, je doute avoir le courage de commencer seul, vu mes faibles connaissances en anglais et en ce qui concerne l europe ... Donc j espere que petit a petit, une ou plusieurs personnes accepteront de voyager sur une partie (peu importe laquelle) avec moi autant pour partager une aventure et passer de bons moments ensemble que pour me fournir deux ou trois conseils par ci par la au niveau de la langue et de certaines differences avec la france :)

- Jusqu en 2020 je ferais ma pitite vie en france et parfois dans des randos/treks dans certains parcs naturels ou chemins de compostelle seul et/ou avec d autres personnes.

- A partir de 2020, je serais officiellement pret et pourrais enfin commencer a marcher en direction de l estonie : france, italie, autriche, slovaquie, pologne, lituanie, lettonie et pour terminer l estonie.

- J aurais aimé combiner marche, kayak et chevaux/poneys/anes, alternativement pour voyager jusqu en estonie, mais ne connaissant pas une miette de l europe, il vas falloir que je sois bien averti, attentif et prudent. Mais tout ca reste une option facultative, a part le kayak dont je suis fortement passionné.

Je ne suis pas du certain de tenir physiquement et psychologiquement jusqu en estonie, peut etre meme que je m arreterais en italie, en autriche ou en slovaquie, puis retournerais en france en bus et/ou train et repartirais plus tard pour l estonie a pied. C est completement aleatoire, comme tout dans la vie d ailleurs. Si mon periple doit durer 30 ans, il durera 30 ans ou si il doit durer 2 ans, il durera 2 ans ...

Si j en ai l occasion il est possible que je fasse un peu d ecovolontariat de temps en temps, d ailleurs si ca vous plait vous pourrez avec plaisir m accompagner, surtout que l ecovolontariat est de plus en plus rare et que pourtant notre planete est de plus en plus souffrante !

Je ne suis pas du tout quelqu un de compétitif, en aucun cas je ne vais chercher a me presser et a etre constamment entrain de marcher a grands pas, je fonctionne selon mes envies et les votres (si une personne m accompagne).

Pour ce qui est des terrains, j apprecie tout type de milieu naturel, montagne, plage, foret, desert, etc., la seule chose que je doute pratiquer, c est la tres haute montagne, l escalade et les sommets trop élevés ne sont pas mes criteres. Il m est arrivé de faire de la tres haute altitude, ca ne m a pas du tout deplu, au contraire c etait jouissif, mais pour certaines raisons techniques et de santé, j evite.

Je fais souvent des vidéos de mes voyages en pleine nature sans me filmer afin de s immerger dans le paysage et avec les animaux, donc pour ceux qui ont envie d en profiter, je vous fournirais les liens si ca peut vous faire du bien :) D ailleurs j en ai deja faites pas mal ...

Au passage, si certaines personnes ont besoins de conseils pour leur propre periple, je suis parfaitement ouvert a vous soutenir :)

Bon courage a vous pour vos futurs voyages en esperant que vous aussi vous aurez la force d aller jusqu au bout !
EuroVelo 10: la Baltique
by Hetres67 · 2018-06-15 · 3 replies
bonjour

Avons l'intention de faire une partie du la véloroute de la Baltique, au départ de Lubeck, en se dirigeant vers GDANSK et RIGA, cet été

quelqu'un l'a t-il fait? la velo route est elle bien réalisée?

On cherche également un guide de préférence en Français, sinon en anglais ou allemand on a rien trouvé pour l'instant, quelqu'un saurait? merci Esther
Frontière Hloukhiv (Ukraine) - Kours (Russie) ouverte?
by SurlesPistes · 2018-06-01 · 16 replies
Bonjour à tous

Après bien des recherches, pas de "post" pour le passage de cette frontière.

Désirant passer de l'Ukraine au Kazakhstan (via la Russie en transit), savez-vous Si on peut passer par là?

Sinon ça sera par KHARKIV. Merci pour vos commentaires.
Informations TIV et ESTA pour les États-Unis
by Hvwll · 2018-04-30 · 3 replies
Bonjour, j'espère que je suis au bon endroit pour une telle question !

Je viens demander votre aide peut-être quelque connaît la réponse ou a déjà vécu ceci. On prévoit avec ma compagne un voyage aux USA l'année prochaine, cependant une question me taraude. Elle n'est pas française, est sous protection subsidiaire et possède pour l'instant un titre de séjour qu'elle renouvelle tous les un ou deux ans (n'a plus aucun papiers de son pays d'origine du coup). Pour voyager hors de France elle va donc faire un titre d’identité et de voyage (TIV) d'une durée d'un an. Le problème c'est que je n'arrive pas à trouver l'info' si c'est considéré comme un passeport "normal" on va dire et que l'ESTA + ça suffit ou s'il lui faut demander le VISA tourisme. Je n'arrive pas à trouver à quoi ça ressemble ou bien même si c'est biométrique ou pas etc...

Merci par avance de ce précieux conseil si des personnes s'y connaissent.
Matelas léger, compact et isolant par temps froids et longs trek?
by Shortlif · 2018-04-21 · 4 replies
Bonjour, ca fait des annees que je lis un tas d articles et d avis a droite et a gauche, mais rien a faire, je n arrive pas a prendre une decision ferme et definitive de peur d etre a nouveau surchargé ou frigorifié la nuit ...

Avec un matelas de 3.3 de r value avec isolation thermique, meme en hiver et en pluie permanente sans cesse, je n ai subi aucune humidité ni froid de par le dessous, donc j en conclu qu une valeur plus faible pourrait surement faire l affaire ^^

Sauf que mon objectif est de voyager en europe, en hiver et d avantage dans le nord que dans le sud, et vu que je ne suis jamais sortit de la france, j ai peur !! Si je me retrouve avec des temperatures autour de zero ou bien en dessous, avec un matelas encombrant, douloureux et lourd, je vais vite regretter mon depart dans ces pays :( (france, italie, suisse, autriche, lettonie, finlande)

J ai donc fait mes choix, je sais exactement ce que je veux sauf que je n arrive pas a savoir si le matelas mousse ne sera pas trop mince (je bouge beaucoup la nuit) et isolera suffisamment ... Oo L indice du matelas mousse que j ai choisi est le meilleur du marché pour son poids apparemment. Mais je doute que ce soit une bonne solution, ca a l air si fin et si encombrant ...

Tandis que les matelas gonflables selectionnés sont plus lourds mais mille fois plus compacts, confortables et isolants au vu des caracteristiques !!

Ce qui me chagrine c est que j ai lu des articles qui disent le contraire, comme quoi un matelas mousse sera plus isolant ... Surement par rapport a l air ... Je ne connais pas le pourquoi du comment mais pourquoi ca serait plus isolant si techniquement les r value sont plus élevés sur les matelas gonflables ? oO

Je n ai aucun objectif de lieu specifique, mais j aime les coins les plus reculés et les plus sauvages, la haute montagne me passionne mais n ayant pas voyagé depuis 5 ans environ, je vais surement me passer de la haute montagne pour l instant, et encore plus en hiver !!

Voici les liens :

https://www.aventurenordique.com/matelas-gonflable-klymit-insulated-v-ultralite-sl.html https://www.aventurenordique.com/matelas-exped-synmat-ul.html https://www.aventurenordique.com/matelas-exped-synmat-ul-lite.html https://www.aventurenordique.com/matelas-neoair-trekker-thermarest.html

https://www.aventurenordique.com/matelas-ridgerest-solite.html

Je veux a tout prix alleger mon sac donc le matelas mousse m attire beaucoup, mais il n a qu UNE qualité sur les TROIS autres que j ai cité ... Du coup je ne sais vraiment pas comment me decider ... Surtout qu en plus je ne me souviens pas avoir dormi sur un matelas en mousse et en plus je ne sais pas ce que ca donnera cet hiver sachant qu on est en ete et que l hiver n arrivera qu apres la fin de l ete et de l automne ...

Je veux bien attendre l hiver pour tester mais j aurais bien aimé avoir des avis, des points de vu et des experiences surtout, de personnes qui eux ont testés la difference entre un matelas gonflable isolé et un matelas mousse de qualité en pleine hiver et par temperatures faibles, voir tres faibles !

Merci infiniment :)
Nos voyages en camping-car dans le monde
by Nosperiples · 2018-03-01 · 2 replies
Retraité depuis plus de 10 ans, nous voyageons réguliérement en Camping-Car en Europe et dans le Monde. Pour organiser ces voyages nous utilisons beaucoup les informations que nous pouvons trouver sur internet. C'est pourquoi nous avons aussi crée un site de manière à mettre à disposition des autres campingcaristes notre propre expérience. Site : https://sites.google.com/site/nosperiples/ Pays visité : Chine: Paris/Pekin Mongolie, Russie, Ouzbékistan L'Amérique du sud (Argentine, Chili, Pérou, Bolivie, ) La Nouvelle Zélande Portugal Espagne Maroc Mauritanie Grèce Turquie Italie Sicile Sardaigne Albanie Monténégro Croatie Roumanie Ecosse Irlande Allemagne Lituanie Lettonie Estonie Norvège France(divers régions)
Traversée Europe - Asie en septembre (Transsibérien) et climat
by Bruno31 · 2017-12-10 · 38 replies
Bonjour, je me prépare à prendre du congé sans solde pour pouvoir voyager quelques mois en Asie en partant par le transsibérien, et en passant l'hiver en Asie du Sud-Est. Tout reste à confirmer, mais je pense pouvoir le faire à partir de la mi septembre 2018. Puisque je compte emprunter le transsibérien (ou transmongolien ou tranmandchourien, pas encore déterminé), l'idée serait de faire le parcours complet sinon en train, du moins par voie terrestre (train, bus, bateau) (mais je ne ferai pas une fixation là-dessus si l'idée se révèle non pertinente).

Je précise que je suis déjà allé (plusieurs fois) en Asie du Sud-Est, en Chine également. Les autres pays (même les pays européens cités ci-dessous) me sont inconnus.

Je souhaiterais aller à Saint-Pétersbourg avant Moscou.

* Pour rejoindre Saint-Pétersbourg, tout en évitant la Biélorussie, je vois plusieurs possibilités : - Allemagne - Pologne - Lituanie - Lettonie : quels stops recommandés dans ces pays que je ne connais pas ? en 2 semaines, 3 semaines ? - Route plus au Nord par Danemark, Suède, Finlande éventuellement, Estonie : faut il prévoir un surcoût important dans les pays d'Europe du Nord ? La aussi, quels stops prévoir (éventuellement, quels petits détours)

* Le transsibérien : octobre (éventuellement, début novembre selon le temps consacré au trajet vers Moscou) est il une bonne saison (a priori un peu frisquet sans excès, et une fréquentation touristique en baisse par rapport à l'été) ? Je souhaiterais me garder le maximum de liberté, est il possible de ne rien réserver (ni trajets, ni hébergements) ? Un mois est il une durée raisonnable pour le trajet (pour l'instant, je ne suis pas encore fixé sur les arrêts, à part le Baïkal) ? Pensez vous que le climat devrait m'inciter à "sacrifier" le trajet d'approche vers la Russie pour pouvoir faire le trajet aussi tôt que possible en automne ?

* A l'autre bout : j'envisage 3 possibilités, la Corée du Sud, le Japon, la Chine. On devrait donc être en novembre ce qui pour les 3 pays fait penser à du froid. Donc : trop froid, je privilégie le transmongolien pour aller rapidement vers le Sud de la Chine ? ou bien froid, mais agréable quand même en Corée et au Japon ?

* Les visas : pour la Russie, la Mongolie, la Chine, que faut il savoir pour ne pas trop se compliquer la vie à ce niveau ?

Je vous remercie d'avance pour vos conseils et retours d'expérience !!
De Nouvelle-Zélande à Brest à moto
by Zeke29 · 2017-07-02 · 7 replies
Bonjour à tous !

Je suis actuellement en WHV d'un an en Nouvelle Zélande. Étant passionné par la moto je compte bien m'en acheter une ici (probablement une GS650). Je souhaite clôturer ce voyage par une expérience unique, et quoi de mieu que de rentrer à la maison en moto en faisant un Road trip de fou !?

En bref: J'aimerai avoir quelques conseils, notamment par rapport aux meilleurs itinéraires, aux budgets, aux différents visas et pourquoi pas vaccins, en gros toutes informations utiles car je suis un novice ;)

Pour l'instant j'aimerai un itinéraire ressemblant à: Bateau de Nz à l'Oz (peut être Sydney) Sydney au nord de l'Oz (peut être darwin) Bateaux de l'Oz à Singapour Remonter la Malaisie puis la Thaïlande Une possible traversé de la Birmanie Traversé de la Chine Puis le Kazakhstan ? Puis l'Ouzbékistan ? Puis le Turkménistan ? J'aimerai aller au porte de l'enfer en fait :) Remonté de l'Ouzbékistan et du Kazakhstan Remonté de la Russie, Moscou ? Puis l'Estonie, la Lettonie, la Lituanie Pologne Allemagne Revenir par Strasbourg Et ensuite je devrai pouvoir me débrouiller :)

Bien sûr je suis ouvert à toutes propositions d'itinéraires, mais j'aimerai quand même éviter les zones dangereuse et rentrer sain et sauf ! En espérant pouvoir profiter de vos conseils et de vos expériences !
Mon voyage à travers le monde: ma galerie photo internationale
by Toscanafoto · 2017-05-17 · 0 replies
Égypte: Les voyageurs européens (et du Canada) seraient éligibles au futur e-Visa
by ActionVisas · 2017-05-04 · 0 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Aujourd'hui a été dévoilé le site par lequel les requérants pourront réclamer leur futur visa électronique pour entrer en Égypte: www.egyptvisa.com/

Après avoir déclaré il y a quelques jours que ce système ne pourrait être utilisés par les voyageurs provenant de pays bénéficiant de "facilités" d'entrée comme les voyageurs européens et visant les touristes provenant notamment d’Asie , la liste des nationalités présente sur ce site indique bien, entre-autre, les pays membres de l'Union Européenne:

France, Allemagne, Australie, Autriche, Belgique, Bulgarie, Canada, Chypre, Corée du Sud, Croatie, Danemark, Espagne, Estonie, États-Unis, Finlande, Géorgie, Grèce, Hongrie, Irlande, Italie, Japon, Lettonie, Lituanie, Luxembourg, Macédoine, Malaisie, Malte, Nouvelle-Zélande, Norvège, Pays-Bas, Pologne, Portugal, République Tchèque, Roumanie, Royaume-Uni, Russie, Serbie, Slovaquie, Slovénie, Suède et Ukraine.

Attention, le site précise également que “le Gouvernement égyptien mettant constamment à jour la liste des pays éligibles au e-Visa, il est vivement recommandé de vérifier, avant de présenter une demande, que votre pays de citoyenneté est bien présent”.

Plus d'infos sur la procédure annoncée ici sur FB.

Nicolas
Itinéraire retour de Finlande en camping-car
by Cheechako · 2017-03-05 · 9 replies
Bonjour, Début Octobre prochain, de retour de Finlande, nous envisageons l'option de passer par les pays baltes (en évitant Russie et Biélorussie) et la Pologne. ici je pense que beaucoup l'ont déjà fait. Quel itinéraire nous conseilleriez vous, sachant qu'il ne s'agirait pas pour nous de visiter vraiment ces pays, mais simplement d'expérimenter un nouveau trajet. Une petite précision : nous ne sommes jamais allés dans ces pays, nous ne parlons ni allemand ni polonais, seulement l'anglais (et le français bien sur). d'avance, merci.
Voyage avec enfant 2 ans et enceinte Norvège et Danemark
by Kattt · 2017-02-12 · 7 replies
Bonjour,

Nous sommes Québécois et nous aimons beaucoup voyager. Nous avions prévu aller au Japon cet été, mais je viens d'apprendre que je suis enceinte. Aussi, comme notre coco aura plus de 2 ans il faut payer son billet d'avion et nous réalisons que c'est dispendieux!

Nous sommes donc en train de revoir nos plans et pensons à la Norvège et au Danemark.

Les points positifs de ces deux pays sont les suivants: moins cher en termes de billets d'avion, vol beaucoup moins long, moins de chaleur, moins de privations pour moi qui est enceinte (au Japon: sushis, bière japonaise, onsen...), plus dans notre zone de confort..

Les points négatifs: nous avons déjà beaucoup voyagé en Europe et nous avions envie de voir quelque chose de différent.

Nous sommes allés: en France (dont la Corse), Espagne, Italie, Portugal, Croatie, Monténégro, Bosnie, Slovénie, Hongrie, Autriche, Pologne, République Tchèque, Grèce, un peu d'Allemagne et un peu de Suisse. Nous sommes aussi allés en Californie.

Avec notre fils, nous avons aussi beaucoup voyagé en Europe: Pays-Bas, Belgique, France, un peu d'Espagne, Finlande, Estonie, Lettonie, Suède et Islande. Nous sommes aussi allés à Cuba et aux USA.

Donc le Japon aurait vraiment été différent. Mais la Norvège m'attire beaucoup aussi... Et je crois que ce serait plus sage et plus réaliste...

Croyez-vous que trois semaines pour aller au Danemark et en Norvège serait bien? Quels lieux sont les plus intéressants à voir? Est-ce que le coût de la vie est beaucoup plus élevé qu'en Suède ou en Islande?

Lorsque nous partirons, je serai enceinte de 22 semaines. Nous ne pouvons pas partir beaucoup plus tard car je ne serai plus couverte par mon assurance en cas de pépins. Et nous ne pouvons pas vraiment partir plus tôt car j'ai des tests en génétique à passer puisque notre première enfant avait un syndrome génétique qui la rendait lourdement handicapée..

Il faut aussi choisir une destination sans Zika..

Merci pour vos avis! Kat
Voyager enceinte et avec enfant de 2 1/2 ans (Japon et Chine)
by Kattt · 2017-02-11 · 13 replies
Bonjour,

Nous sommes Québécois et nous aimons beaucoup voyager. Nous avions prévu aller au Japon cet été, mais je viens d'apprendre que je suis enceinte. Aussi, comme notre coco aura plus de 2 ans il faut payer son billet d'avion et nous réalisons que c'est dispendieux!

Les billets les moins chers que nous avons trouvés passent par la Chine. J'ai de la difficulté à me dire que nous arrêterons en Chine sans y passer les trois jours permis sans visa.

Selon vous, est-ce que la Chine et le Japon sont sûrs enceinte? Et je ne sais pas trop quoi penser des nombreuses heures de vol..

Lorsque nous partirons, je serai enceinte de 22 semaines. Nous partons environ 3 semaines. Nous ne pouvons pas partir beaucoup plus tard car je ne serai plus couverte par mon assurance en cas de pépins. Et nous ne pouvons pas vraiment partir plus tôt car j'ai des tests en génétique à passer puisque notre première enfant avait un syndrome génétique qui la rendait lourdement handicapée..

Notre fils aura 2 ans et 4 mois à notre départ. Il faut aussi considérer cela dans notre décision. Il est toutefois un excellent voyageur. Quand il avait 4 mois, nous sommes partis 5 semaines au Pays-Bas, en Belgique, en France et un peu en Espagne. A 10 mois, nous sommes allés une semaine à Cuba (Varadero et Havane). Quand il avait 16 mois nous sommes partis 4 semaines en Finlande, Estonie, Lettonie, Suède et Islande. Puis à 20 mois nous sommes allés une semaines aux USA dans l'état devNew-York.

L'Europe serait peut-être plus sûre enceinte et le vol serait moins long. Mais nous avons vu plusieurs pays en Europe (nous avons aussi beaucoup voyagé avant d'avoir les enfants) et nous vous envie de faire changement. Aussi, il y a des endroits je trouverais trop difficile de ne pas pouvoir goûter au vin, à la bière ou au fromage au lait cru!! Quoique je devrai me priver de sushis au Japon... :/

Il faut aussi choisir une destination sans Zika..

Merci pour vos avis!
Voyager en train de France jusqu'au Vietnam
by Kinoukinette · 2017-02-10 · 5 replies
Bonjour à tous ! Je viens de lire qu'il est possible de rejoindre le Vietnam à partir de la France, en n'utilisant que le train !... via Allemagne, Pologne, Biélorussie, Russie, Mongolie et Chine ... Quelqu'un l'a-t-il déjà réalisé, totalement ou en partie ?... Une idée du temps nécessaire ?... Qu'en est-il des visas : à prendre avant ou au fur et à mesure ?... Quelles sont les différentes étapes possibles ?... J'attends vos suggestions, réflexions et conseils ... Merci d'avance !

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