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Alexandrie et Oasis de Siouah (Egypte) English translation pending
by Tyftou · 2005-01-20 · 10 replies
Bonjour

je pars en egypte en mars et je vais entre autre parcourir les oasis

Pour aller a siouah quelqun a t il recemment utilisé la route depuis l oasis de bahariya ? ou est elle fermée ?

avez vous des infos sur Alexandrie et la cote méditeranéene? je me demande si je dois pousser mon periple jusque la 🤪

Merci de votre aide

tyftou
Casablanca - Essaouira (Maroc) English translation pending
by Christtian · 2005-01-19 · 6 replies
Nous comptons aller visiter Casa à Paques. Partant de là, passer quelques jours à Essaouira et repartir vers Bruxelles d'Agadir. Si les billets d'avion ne posent pas de pbs, je ne sais pas comment effectuer les transferts. Je ne conduis pas. Existe-t-il un service de cars? ou autres choses? Merci de m'aider
Tour de l'Afrique de l'Ouest English translation pending
by Dianounette · 2004-12-30 · 5 replies
Bonjour à tous,

Je souhaiterais, avant mon départ du Bénin, faire un petit tour au Niger, Burkina, Mali, Ghana et Togo. Je voulais savoir si certaines personnes ont fait ce type de circuit et puis avoir une petite idée des coins "incontournables mais pas trop touristiques" (je sais, pas évident), et du budget qu'on peut envisager pour deux personnes voyageant en taxi-brousse ou bus. Est-ce que 1 mois et demi, deux mois sont suffisants?

Merci d'avance
De Paris au Sanaa (Yémen) en bus! English translation pending
by Mctari · 2004-12-28 · 8 replies
salut a tous

je rentre en octobre 2005 au yemen et je voulais que mon retour soit inoubliable. comme un bouquet de feu d'artifice. en fait cette idée a germé dan mon esprit ya qlq année. c celle de traverser toute leurope de paris au bosphore en bus, puis pareille chose d'istanbul jusquau yemen. travesrant ainsi litalie, slovenie, croatie, bosnie, serbie, roumanie, turquie puis syrie, jourdanie, ar.saoudite pour arriver au sanaa "en bon etat".

est ec que je reve debout? je precise que je suis tt a fait normal et mon etat psychique est "quasi "normal 🙂

sinon... que faudra t il faire pour traversé ts ses mondes? combien coutera un tel voyage, avec kelke excursions de temps a autres.

il est vrai que lidée est a la fase embryonaire mais peut on esperer tel voyage?

a vos plumes chers voyageurs et de vos precieux conseils faites que mon reve daujourdhui soit vrai demain.

PS: mes meilleurs voeux pour cette année 2005 !!!
Conseils de budget English translation pending
by Gwennou · 2004-11-26 · 23 replies
Bonjour,

je planifie pour fin décembre 2005-mars 2006 un tour du monde de 4 mois. J'ai trouvé un bon package auprès des connaisseurs du voyage et j'aurais maintenant besoin de planifier mon budget final.

Je tiens d'abord à préciser à quelle catégorie de voyageur j'appartiens : je n'ai pas de gros besoins mais ne suis pas non plus prêt à loger sous une tente pendant 4 mois ! Il me faut un toit, une douche et 1 repas chaud par jour au minimum, qu'importe qu'il s'agisse de bungalows, de guesthouses ou de motels de camionneurs au gré des pays. Un bon resto de temps en temps, quelques excursions losque l'occasion se présente (plongée, rafting) et me voilà un homme heureux.

voici mon itinéraire prévisionnel avec le budget estimé. Votre avis est bien entendu grandement apprécié :

jour 1 : Paris-Bangkok

15 jours en Thaïlande, notamment les plages du sud, avant de rejoindre Singapour via la Malaisie. budget sur place : 600 euros.

jour 18 : Singapour

3 jours à Singapour. Budget sur place : 200 euros.

jour 22 : Singapour-Bali

10 jours à Bali. Budget sur place : 300 euros.

jour 32 : Bali-Darwin

1 mois de traversée de l'Australie jusqu'à Sydney. Budget sur place : 1200 euros.

jour 62 : Sydney-Christchurch

2 semaines pour remonter le Nlle-Zelande jusqu'à Auckland. Budget sur place : 600 euros.

jour 76 : Auckland-Papeete

10 jours à Tahiti. Budget sur place : 700 euros.

jour 86 : Papeete-Los Angeles

3 semaines sur la côte ouest puis à travers le désert jusqu'au Mexique 5 jours à cancun. Budget sur place : 1000 euros.

jour 112: Cancun-La Havane

1 semaine à Cuba. budget sur place : 200 euros.

jour 120 : Cuba-Paris

A noter que les billets sont open et les dates modifiables sans pénalité. Les billets d'avion sont à 1970 euros plus environ 400 euros de taxes et d'assurances diverses.

ce qui fait au total : avion : 1970 euros vie sur place : 4800 euros taxes et assurances : 400 euros

Budget total : 7170 euros. Un peu plus de 45000 F pour 4 mois autour du monde sans trop se priver.

Ca vous parait réaliste ?
Bons plans Burkina Faso English translation pending
by Christof · 2004-11-08 · 26 replies
Bonjour,

Je projette un voyage au Burkina Faso, en janvier prochain. Très certainement par le biais de Point Afrique. Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer quels sont les sites à ne pas manquer ? De bonnes adresses (surtout au niveau des hôtels). Et enfin question budget, que faut-il compter comme dépenses par jour, sachant que je ne suis pas bien difficile...

Merci d'avance pour tous vos renseignements
Se loger à Lahore au Pakistan English translation pending
by Orange · 2004-10-25 · 8 replies
Salut tous,

Je suis actuellement en Iran, ma prochaine etape est Lahore au Pakistan. Je n ai pas de guide ni rien, quelqu un peut il me conseiller une adresse a Lahore ?

Merci d avance !
Bons plans pour Oman English translation pending
by Najet · 2004-10-23 · 17 replies
bonjour,

mon mari et moi partons pour oman et je serais preneuse de toute infos supplementaire (bon plan location voiture, conseil logement pas cher sur muscat et le reste du pays)etc.......

je n'hesiterais pas à vous faire le compte rendu de mon voyage des mon retour.

a bientot....🙂
Italie - Grèce - Turquie... English translation pending
by Parvat · 2004-10-07 · 20 replies
Bonjour 🙂

En février, je pars pour l'Inde par la route, et je me pose plein de questions bien sur.

Je n'ai pas envie de louper Istambul, je n'y ai jamais été. Ainsi qu'en Grèce d'ailleurs, mais je suis bien impatiente de visiter l'Iran à mon aise... Et bien sur, soit je n'ai pas des mois devant moi et le budget est bon, soit j'ai le temps et le budget est petit... Et dans ce cas, j'ai le temps...

J'hésite sur le parcours...

Le ferry Italie- Cesme (Turquie) et louper la Grèce?🤪

Le ferry Italie - Corfou, puis Istambul en passant par Thessalonique en train et bus? Ce qui me tente bien, j'ai des amis près d'Evia en Grèce, mais le budget? 🤪

Si j'arrive à Cesme, aucun problème pour visiter un peu la Cappadoce (c'est pas loin je crois?), ensuite Istambul??? Et Ankara? La route de ce côté là me semble bizarre, un détour, non? Et en Turquie, je dois faire mes visas pour l'Iran, le Pakistan et l'Inde.

Des avis? Des conseils? Merci tout plein!

Une douce fin de journée à tous! 🙂
Plus beau site d'Egypte? English translation pending
by DJzhongguo · 2004-09-20 · 27 replies
Bonjour à tous ! Quel est pour vous le plus beau site d'Egypte ? Celui qu'il ne faut absolument pas louper ? Pour moi je crois que c'est Abou-Simbel qui m'a frappée le plus, et sans doute aussi le tombeau d'Hatchepsout... A vous de me dire !
Les plus belles Eglises et Cathédrales! English translation pending
by Nawal · 2004-07-04 · 67 replies
... Puisque les sondages sont à la mode sur VF, je me lance !!!

Quels sont vos plus beaux souvenirs d' Eglises ou de Cathédrales de par le monde. Les Mosquées, Synagogues et Temples, sont bienvenues aussi of course !!!

Pour moi, la plus petite et la plus secrète : En plein coeur du Begijnhof à Amsterdam, l'Eglise catholique clandestine, installée dans 2 résidences privées. Elle abrita des reliques du Miracle d'Amsterdam.

Nawal auréolée .
Retour de Malaisie: Kecil Redang Malacca English translation pending
by Liptone · 2004-06-21 · 4 replies
Voilà c'était beau nous sommes rentrés hier ...

KECIL est une petite ile vraiment adorable, j'en ai profité pour faire un baptème en plongée avec des tortues, des requins ... avec le club STEEPHEN ... il n'y avait trop de monde et nous sommes allés en bateau en face du D'LAGOON ... un bonne approche de la plongée !!!

REDANG au niveau des fonds marins c'est encore plus beau, l'eau est critaline .. du snorkling tous les jours, nous sommes arrivés un week end et au moment des vacances soclaires !!... à éviter si vous le pouvez ... un monde fou ... donc nous avons abrégé

MALACCA une petite ville à visiter très chouette la quartier chinois est très agréable, un mélange portuguais et hollandais étonnant.

Et puis KUALA pour finir ... nous avons logés au china town inn dans le quartier routard ... pas grand chose à visiter mais un accueil chaleureux, aucun problème pour se déplacer dans le pays ... un bon souvenir ...

merci LEPIAF pour tous les renseignements sur les perhentian, (nous avons fait le trip snorkling) mais pas eu le temps d'aller au village à pied à travers la jungle.

Pour aller de KECIL à REDANG aucun problème il suffit de prendre un bateau avec un club de plongée à LONG BEACH ...

A +
Hébergement au Maroc English translation pending
by Lulle · 2004-06-18 · 2 replies
Avec mon copain nous allons à Fez à la mi-aout, mais nous arrivons à l'aéroport à minuit! Qui pourrait nous conseiller un hotel sympa ? D'ailleurs ou passer les nuits, des conseils pour les visites ? On pense aller à Meknes et à volubilis.

Merci
Et au milieu coule une riviere English translation pending
by Douya · 2004-05-18 · 3 replies
Lever avec le soleil, seau d’eau froide pour tres momentanement baisser la temperature corporelle, puis je m’installe dans mon fauteuil et j’allume la television.

C’est un reportage comme je n’en ai jamais vu, encore mieux que National Geographic et Planete reunis, intitule «De l’autre cote de la riviere, les ghats ».

Une riviere donc, des ghats ensuite, et derriere, pour couronner le paysage, les gopurams du temple de Viruspaksha, ainsi que les ruines de Hemkuta Hill en vision panoramique

Pour eclairage, le soleil levant qui illumine l’entree du temple oriente a l’est.

Un reportage sans commentaire ni musique, juste les bruits du linge que l’on frappe contre la pierre, des enfants qui pataugent dans l’eau et des oiseaux qui chantent. Pas un klaxon, pas un bruit de frein, pas une voiture.

Un reportage comme si j’y etais…

… mais j’y suis !

Je suis assise sur une chaise, en face de Hampi, de l’autre cote de la riviere. Je ne me lasse pas de regarder sans fin, ces hommes, femmes et enfants, profiter de la plus grande salle de bain de la region. Un defile de couleurs, tous ces vetements qui sont mouilles, savonnes, frappes, rinces et enfin etendus sur les escaliers. Pour connaître la longueur d’un sarii, comptez le nombre de marches a gravir pour entierement l’etaler. Un assortiment de jaune, rouge, vert, bleu tel un patchwork, une peinture moderne, composee de carres multicolores de tailles variables.

Les gens aussi sont mouilles, savonnes, rinces, seches, pour commencer tout propre une nouvelle journee. Les enfants s’amusent, les jeunes garcons se prennent en photos en pyramide humaines, les religieux font les prieres, les femmes lavent leurs longues nattes.

Et au milieu de la riviere, les pecheurs qui relevent leurs filets, a bord d’une coracle. Cette embarcation ronde a base de roseau, est aussi utilisee pour traverser la riviere par les gens bien sur, les velos egalement, les motos aussi incroyable que ca puisse paraître, tellement cette embarcation parait fragile.

Vijayanagar (cite de la victoire), capitale d’un des plus grand empires hindous. Fondee en 1336, au temps de la conquete du nord de l’Inde par les musulmans, ce royaume a connu prosperite et abondance pendant environ deux siecles. Difficile d’imaginer que ce coin tranquille de verdure et ce hameau de 1000 ames, ait au temps de sa splendeur abrite plus de 500 000 habitants sur plus de 43 km carres.

Vestiges de cette epoque, des ruines de temples, de palais royaux, de bains, de bazaar eparpilles un peu partout entre paysages de grands canyons, compose de cailloux, roches, monts et vallees ; et oasis de palmiers, bananier et champs de tournesols.

Plus de 80 monuments, qui se decouvrent au detour d’un chemin, le long de la route ou pres de la riviere.

Chaque pas amene son lot de surprise, tel le temple d’Achyutaraya que je decouvre petit a petit au milieu de son ecrin de verdure en descendant dans une vallee rocheuse. J’essaye d’imaginer l’ambiance du Sule Bazaar, longue allee, maintenant deserte et vide, qui mene au temple, ou se trouvaient tous les commercants et l’animation de la ville.

Comment ne pas s’extasier devant la finesse des sculptures, la precision des details, sur les colonnes, les lintaux, les statues.

Des dimensions inimaginables, des animaux mythologiques, des dieux et des deesses dans toutes les positions graves dans le granit et la pierre.

Sous le fort soleil de l’ete indien, le bain en plein air du temple de Krishna m’appelle, difficile de resister a ce reservoir encadre d’un cloitre au milieu des champs de bananiers. Mais il ne faut pas se laisser tromper par cette eau pleine d’algues ! Des bains, il y en a a profusion, les bains de la reine et son decor des milles et une nuit, le bain ocotogonal isole dans la campagne, bains le plus souvent vides, comme pour narguer le pauvre visiteur ruisselant de sueur.

Empire hindou, mais visiteurs de tous les coins de l’Inde et meme d’Europe. Une mosquee s’integre parfaitement dans le quartier royal, a cote des etables des elephants royaux, des aqueducs, du reservoir en escaliers en pierres noires a la geometrie parfaite, du temple souterrain et tant d’autres vestiges.

Le long de la route, un village, une ecole decoree aux couleurs de l’Inde, puis en haut de cette montee, un temple. Un peu de monde le long des bananiers, un chemin de terre, puis une statue de Narasimha, quatrieme avatar de Vishnu.

Impossible de les decrire tous, impossible de mettre des mots sur ces prouesses architecturales et artistiques, impossible de decrire le sentiment de serenite et de bien etre qui se degage de ces lieux.

Ballades entre riviere et ruines, entre verdure et pierres, temoignages d'hier, scenes d’aujourd’hui.

Vijayanagar, Hampi, merveille du Karnataka.
Bons plans au Sénégal English translation pending
by Sabrina92 · 2004-01-05 · 7 replies
😏 salut je pars au senegal trés bientot et j'aimerai connaitre le sentiment de ceux qui y sont allés recemment. Quels sont les coins les plus sympas???

Merci de me repondre et bonne année à tous!!!
Hôtel à Istanbul English translation pending
by Jojodeparis · 2003-12-18 · 6 replies
Bonjour

Quelqu"un aurait-il un hôtel à conseiller à Istanbul, si possible vers Sultan Ahmet?

Pas nécessairement le moins cher.

Merci
Mon voyage en Egypte en avril 2000 English translation pending
by Isismarie · 2003-07-11 · 9 replies
Vacances de pâques, avril 2000. Tout d'abord une semaine de croisière. Nous étions un groupe de 20 personnes. En attendant le passage de l'écluse d'Esna, nous avons été distraits par des vendeurs en barques qui s'arrêtent le long des bateaux de touristes et envoient leur marchandise (nappes et djellabas) par-dessus bord. Original... Première visite pour le temple de Philae à Assouan. Ah ! Belle Isis, que ton destin fut tragique mais grandiose ! Notre guide nous a raconté son histoire grâce à un petit jeu de rôle. Passage par le haut barrage - impressionnant ! et par la carrière où gît toujours l'obélisque inachevé d'Hatshepsout . Bizarre de se dire qu'il y a 3500 ans qu'il existe et de penser aux ouvriers qui se sont échinés longtemps pour rien, que dalle ! Après-midi, départ en felouque pour la visite du jardin botanique de l'île Kitchener, escortés par des enfants en barquette propulsée à force d'huile de bras, qui nous chantent" Il était un petit navire" et se réjouissent de recevoir quelques bics en cadeau... Lendemain petit matin, départ en avion pour le site d'Abou Simbel. Tout simplement FABULEUX !!! Dans le grand temple, j'étais carrément 3250 ans en arrière, sur les traces de Ramsès et sa chère Néfertari (elle a eu de la chance d'être aimée au point de se voir dédier un si beau temple...) Dire qu'ils ont été creusés à même la roche et 3200 ans plus tard, démontés en 1036 blocs et remontés 64 mètres plus haut... Petit détour par la classique école de papyrus où l'on ne peut que se laisser tenter par une de ses créations que l'on pourrait croire d'époque pharaonique. Profitons du soleil sur le bateau pendant que l'on nous conduit à Kom Ombo où l'on visite le temple à la tombée de la nuit. Je crois que c'est le seul temple double : 2 divinités - Sobek et Haroeris - salle d'attente pour la visite du peuple au prêtre-médecin de l'époque et ses momies de crocodiles. Sur le bateau, soirée djellaba et dans les cabines, les stewards - tout le personnel est masculin - fabriquent des animaux à l'aide de serviettes de bain (crocodiles, singes etc)... super bien fait ! Départ en calèche pour le temple d'Edfou dédié à Horus, un des temples les mieux conservés car longtemps enfoui dans le sable. Ensuite navigation vers Esna où l'on visite le temple de Khnoum qui a gardé quelques jolies couleurs. Enfin LOUXOR et ses merveilles : Karnak (visite de jour et son et lumière le soir comme à Philae) où l'on se sent tout petit au milieu de la salle hypostyle avec ses 134 colonnes de 23 mètres, l'obélisque d'Hatshepsout ma reine préférée, le scarabée d'Aménophis III autour duquel les célibataires doivent tourner 7 fois pour trouver l'âme soeur, le lac sacré, la chapelle blanche dédiée surtout à Amon Min. Escapade à la bijouterie Radwan pour acheter un ankh, un cartouche et autres babioles. Temple de Louxor où subsiste une partie du dromos (allée de sphinx qui jadis le reliait à Karnak) Musée de Louxor qui recèle de vrais trésors, notamment une tête d'Akhenaton devant laquelle je suis restée pantoise. Etre ainsi face à face avec ce drôle de pharaon... troublant...Cinq heures du mat pour éviter les grosses chaleurs, direction la vallée des rois (tombes de Ramsès III, IX et Aménophis II - indescriptibles je vous renvoie aux illustrations) ; très jolies aussi les tombes dans la vallée des artisans, près des ruines du village de Deir el Medineh, peut-être les plus colorées, ainsi que la vallée des reines. Malheureusement, personne n'allait voir Néfertari et nous nous sommes seulement arrêtés devant le temple d'Hatshepsout sans le visiter. D'après notre guide, il est très abîmé à l'intérieur. Temple de millions d'années de Ramsès III à Medinet Abou et salutations aux colosses de Memnon ont clôturé cette croisière puis nous avons quitté le groupe.Repos bien mérité à l'hôtel Mövenpick sur l'île du crocodile à Louxor. Au bord du Nil, petits bungalows disséminés dans un jardin luxuriant, super piscine, navette gratuite pour le centre ville, couchers de soleil imprenables... Le paradis pendant 3 jours... Changement de décor : mégalopole du Caire - mais une guide rien que pour nous : citadelle de Salah al Din, mosquée du sultan Hassan, visite trop rapide au musée (masque d'or du roi Tout bien sûr incontournable et très émouvant- le contenu de sa tombe occupe tout le premier étage - Akhenaton et Néfertiti, Aménophis III et Tiyi, Khephren...) Pyramides de Gizeh avec leur gardien sphinx (impressionnant !). Je ne suis pas entrée dans la pyramide, j'ai préféré voir la barque solaire de Kheops découverte en 1955 (grandiose !). Memphis et son colosse couché de Ramsès II (il est vraiment partout !) Et pour terminer, la pyramide de Djoser et le temple de Saqqarah. Malheureusement, les plus belles choses ont une fin - et c'est le coeur lourd que je suis rentrée en Belgique car j'ignore si j'aurai encore la chance de retourner là-bas... Tout ce que j'ai vu dépassait de loin mes espérances les plus folles. Les Egyptiens malgré leur relative misère sont très souriants, accueillants, jamais pots de colle, et paraissent plus heureux que nous. Grâce à ce récit, j'ai pu un peu revivre 2 semaines idylliques. J'espère que la longueur de mon message ne vous a paru rébarbative et que ceux qui ont déjà visité l'Egypte ont pu retrouver des souvenirs ; quant à ceux qui n'y sont pas encore allés, ils puissent avoir eu un avant-goût de cette superbe aventure qu'ils vivront peut-être un jour.
Breathtaking Kyrgyzstan!
by Attila · 2026-07-04 · 301 replies
This trip had been on my mind for about fifteen years.

But the discomfort of overnight stays, the difficulty of communication, and the prices of the few car rental options kept making me postpone the project.

And then, everything suddenly fell into place—I told myself, it’s time!

The preparations took longer than usual; the destination is still far from mainstream.

A bit of Kazakhstan? Not in the end.

The south or not the south? Yes, in the end.

Pre-book or go with the flow? Only two stops were a leap into the unknown.

To help me find the ideal route, I made great use of this forum (thanks to everyone for patiently answering my questions!), pored over travel journals and blogs (Christian, Jeff), zoomed in on Google Maps and Yandex, and bought the guide published by OunTravela about this destination (the guide has been updated since).

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You’ve got your passport, international driver’s license, bank cards, and euros?

Off we go to Lyon—just one night left before our early morning flight.

Tomorrow night, we’ll be sleeping in Bishkek! (Steak for my partner’s mischievous nephews...)



You’ll find here a post with some practical information.

And here, the version of the travel journal without comments.

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As a supplement, the route track. Not necessarily ultra-accurate since Google has serious gaps for this destination...

From Bishkek to Karakol:



From Karakol to Kochkor:



From Kochkor to Baetov:



From Baetov to Kara-Köl:



From Kara-Köl to Bishkek:



August 2026 Photo Contest Theme: Religious Buildings
by Gaura · 2026-08-01 · 86 replies
Since I don’t have time to come up with an original theme, I’m suggesting a broad, international topic: religious buildings around the world. Given how vast the subject is, I’d like us to focus on photos of exteriors—wide shots or details. Interiors, which are just as varied, could be the subject of another contest.

A few of my own photos, just to give you an idea:













A little piece of Sulawesi with the family: Rantepao and Selayar
by Judau · 2026-08-16 · 62 replies
I’d been wanting to discover Sulawesi for years. But then life happened—COVID, the cost of flight tickets, you name it. Long story short, years went by, but we finally set off as a family for a three-week trip in southern Sulawesi: Rammang Rammang, Rantepao, Sengkang, Bira, and Selayar. I like to spend a good amount of time in the places I visit, giving myself the chance to really get to know the area and meet locals. So no island-hopping this time—just the south. But when I say "just," it’s not restrictive at all, given how rich this island is in landscapes, little encounters, and magical moments.

Wednesday 07/08 - Thursday 07/09: We left Montpellier for what was supposed to be five flights, though we only took four to start, landing in Jakarta. We picked up our luggage there to catch a flight to Makassar the next day. That’s the only way we could get an affordable ticket (702 €). I won’t bore you with the flight details—there’s not much to say. We arrived at 7 PM and considered heading straight to Makassar that evening. But we opted for a recovery night before taking off again. Good thing we did, because my son’s suitcase was missing... First contact with the locals was a bit stressful—a trip without your luggage isn’t exactly fun. But right away, a woman reassured us: the suitcase was just enjoying some extra time in Singapore. Maybe it was doing some last-minute shopping. Anyway, nothing serious—it was supposed to arrive at 9 AM the next day. That gave us some breathing room since our flight wasn’t until noon. So off we went to our hotel (Days Hotel & Suites) near the airport. It was cheap (40 € for three rooms—my kids are older and need their space), but it wasn’t worth much more. The place had definitely seen better days. But no big deal—we were only there for the night, and... we got to watch France beat Morocco in the World Cup live at 3 AM. That’s what really mattered!

Friday 07/10: In search of the lost suitcase First challenge of the morning: finding our missing suitcase. They sent us to the airport basement, to the staff entrance. We were greeted with smiles, and an airport employee led me through the underground corridors back to the baggage claim. Right on time at 9 AM, the suitcase arrived, just like they’d promised. We were finally complete! Off we went to change terminals, grab a well-deserved meal, and board our fifth flight to Makassar. Little side note: I struggled for a while trying to book domestic flights directly on the airlines’ websites with no luck. Without meaning to advertise (though I guess I am a little), I realized it’d be easier to use sites like tiket.com or Traveloka. That turned out to be a great choice—I even ended up booking hotels through them later in the trip. 12:40 PM: We were on our way to Makassar. First good news: we were the only tourists. Well, the only European tourists on the flight, anyway. No, you’re not dreaming—the bag is full of... potato chip packets. To each their own souvenirs, I guess...



When we arrived in Makassar, a driver was waiting to take us straight to Rammang Rammang: 250,000 IDR (12 €) to our guesthouse (Rammang Rammang House). Forget about meeting people on the bus—we were headed straight to the first stop of our trip, and it was already stunning.

My kids’ guesthouse:

Ours:

View of the little lake:

But not everything is straightforward around here. I wanted to get a local SIM card for internet and calls. I found them expensive at Jakarta’s airport (20 € for 20 GB), so I decided to wait. Well, no luck in Rammang Rammang either. You can’t just buy one from the local shop—you need a Telkomsat store (they have the best coverage). So we’d have to wait for Rantepao to get Wi-Fi... When I say "local shop," I mean the little shack around the corner. No big deal—we’d find one easily in Rantepao for 5 € and 25 GB. So there we were, offline, just the four of us enjoying the amazing view.

Saturday 07/11: Rammang Rammang We woke up early to the sound of wedding music blasting through the village (everyone’s invited!). Off we went to explore the area. A little walking, a little boat ride (shared with a French tourist and a Polish one—yes, there *are* tourists here, just not many; 750,000 IDR for up to 8 people) through a lovely canal, and we discovered the karst site. It was peaceful and beautiful. The river: The karst site:







Staircases. Photo contest theme for May 2026.
by Ragamuffin · 2026-05-01 · 79 replies
Hello

This month’s photo contest theme for May 2026 is "Staircases"

Plural or singular? Does it really matter as long as you’re told you’ve gone up or down them well?

Anyway, it’s not that complicated, even though I’m sure some will manage to overcomplicate it—after all, why keep things simple when making them complicated is so much more fun (as an Indian proverb goes).

To participate: Submit your photos until Monday, May 25 at 11:59 PM You can post up to 3 photos, numbered and shared in separate messages, along with a short description of the location and the story behind it.

To vote: From Tuesday, May 26 at 12:01 AM until Saturday, May 30 at 11:59 PM After the deadline, it’s too late.

Please include the photo number, username, and the points awarded: Photo #1 = 3 pts Photo #2 = 2 pts Photo #3 = 1 pt

All VF members can vote (even those who didn’t submit photos). In case of a tie for first place, the winning photo will be the one with the most first-place votes, then second-place votes! The lucky winner will get to organize June 2026’s photo contest.

For discussions about the theme, click here: Discussion thread for May 2026’s theme: Staircases
Lombok or Flores for snorkeling?
by Caty47 · 2026-03-11 · 10 replies
Our Bali-Lombok trip is taking shape, but we’d love to wrap up the stay with at least a solid week of snorkeling somewhere the coral is still in great condition. In your opinion, are the Gili Secrets in southern Lombok better than Flores Island, where there are supposedly amazing underwater landscapes?
December Photo Contest Discussion: One or Multiple Shots of Towers
by Gaura · 2025-12-02 · 60 replies
This is the place to chat about December’s theme! I’ll start with a little TOUR of the world’s TOURS.

















Of course, you can submit multiple photos of the same tower in the contest—it’s the quality of the photo that’ll be judged during voting, not just the subject!
Planning a trip to Thrace
by Jycroispas · 2025-12-01 · 2 replies
Hi there, The least we can say is that neither the internet nor guidebooks are overflowing with info on Thrace, this region in the far northeast of Greece (part of which is also in Bulgaria and Turkey). Needless to say, if anyone’s already visited this "eastern" Greece, I’d love to hear ANY tips about it. I’m planning to spend 4 or 5 days there next May, with a rental car. The distances seem pretty big, and I don’t want to rack up too many kilometers at the risk of being a bit disappointed—especially, what do you think of the Evros Valley, near the Turkish border? Thanks in advance.
Review of an Aegean Sea cruise on Ponant's Bougainville from November 1-8, 2025
by 4yne · 2025-12-01 · 77 replies
Hello everyone,

If you'd like, I invite you to join me for a week-long cruise to northern Greece, visiting ports that are often less crowded with cruise ships.

Itinerary: Athens, Skiathos, Volos, Thessaloniki, Kavala, Limnos, Hydra, Athens

Traveling independently in Egypt: safety, guidance, transport
by Cyrille6k · 2025-12-01 · 4 replies
Hello,

I backpacked in Egypt back in 1998 (as I have in all my other destinations). We’re planning to go again in early 2026. The country has surely changed, and I have a few questions for those who’ve been there recently: - Is it possible to travel completely independently from Cairo to Abu Simbel (Aswan), both legally and safely? - If some stretches are better with guidance or a guide, could you let me know where, please? - In 1998, the only way to get to Abu Simbel from Aswan was by plane. What’s the situation now? - I read a tip about arriving the day before in Abu Simbel, staying overnight to be there at opening time and enjoy the site before the organized tours arrive. Do you have any links for hotels near Abu Simbel, please?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and advice! 🙂
11-Day Trip to Jordan in Late October 2025 – Recap
by KayakMan · 2025-11-23 · 10 replies
Let’s be clear—it was a fantastic time to visit, and Jordan is an amazing country! 100% sunshine and temperatures between 25 and 35°C, depending on the altitude. No stress at all: Jordanians live up to their reputation as a charming, helpful, and fun-loving people. No hassles, no pushy sales—just pure joy sharing time and laughter with them. Over 11 days, we intentionally skipped the north to spend more time in Petra, Wadi Rum, Dana, and diving in Aqaba. No regrets whatsoever 😄 Practical tips at the end of the travel journal.

Road trip: Arrived at 10 PM (Nantes-Frankfurt/Amman in under 9 hours). Spent the night near the airport.

Day 1: Left at 8 AM for Mount Nebo and the Dead Sea Center—picnic in the middle of the lovely Wadi Himara (great spot, 2-hour round trip—thanks to the GPS coordinates from the agency. It takes guts to leave your car parked alone with all the luggage inside, but honestly, no stress at all). Afternoon at the Movenpick (pricey but nice) to enjoy the Dead Sea. Dinner on-site. Perfect relaxation for a first day.



Day 2: Drove south along the Dead Sea. First stop at Wadi Mujib (great, fun, and full of water—max 2-hour round trip). Then a second swim in the Dead Sea, 10 km past the Wadi Mujib Center, which we preferred over the Movenpick spot because it felt wilder. Just pull over when you see tents along the road where you can take a shower after swimming (a must! Cost: 3 JOD per shower). The scenery is stunning, and the swim feels more natural than at the hotels. A really cool experience.

Around 3 PM, took the scenic route after the Dead Sea toward Little Petra (1.5 hours). Don’t take the King’s Highway directly—instead, continue on the Wadi Arabia road, then turn left (Route 60) after the town of Feifa and the ‘Jo Petrol’ gas station. Worth it! Visited Little Petra in the late afternoon and had dinner + stayed overnight at the Seven Wonder Luxury Camp. TOP: warm welcome and great advice on the best order for hikes in Petra based on sunlight and avoiding backtracking. We regretted not staying two nights…

Day 3: PETRA Petra info: Not many people around, so we really enjoyed it (thanks to the geopolitical situation). We’ll share the times of our circuits since we were able to catch the sun on the key sites (9:30 AM for the Treasury). As amateur photographers, we took our time on all the visits and circuits—you can shave off about 25% of the suggested times. But rushing can ruin Petra’s magic! For us, two full days is the minimum.



First day in Petra with arrival at 7:30 AM. Free parking in front of the visitor center… Program: Siq, Khazneh (40 min), then the amazing “High Place of Sacrifice” circuit between 9:30 AM and 12:30 PM, starting directly to the left before the theater. This avoids climbing in the sun (great tip from our camp host the night before!).

Arrived at the Great Temple, lunch at the ‘The Bassin’ self-service (17 JOD per person!). Expensive, but it’s a good place to rest 😉 Then visited the churches with viewpoints over the temples, accompanied by two friends 🙂, the Colonnaded Street, and the tombs (in the sun at 4 PM), the Theater… then back via the Khazneh and the Siq (another 40 min!).

Arrived at the Seven Wonder Hotel in Petra at 5 PM, exhausted!! Good hotel, simple room, but an amazing rooftop with a pool—perfect for relaxing after Petra. A car is necessary to reach the visitor center and possibly downtown for dinner (the hotel dining room isn’t cozy at all). Two great places to eat: Mr. Falafel for lunch or dinner (also makes takeaway meals for 4 JOD)—simple but delicious! My Mom's Recipe Restaurant—great decor on the terrace and really tasty food. Day 4: Little Petra to the Monastery circuit. You need a special ticket issued on the road to Little Petra (you can get there by taxi from the visitor center for 10 JOD or by shuttle), where they take you in a 4x4 to the start of the trail. This saves an hour of walking in the sun but costs 5 JOD per person. Started the trail around 8:30 AM. Count 3 hours to get all the way down. Great circuit that avoids climbing the 800 steps (just descending them!).

Before reaching the Monastery, tea break at the “End of the World Coffee” following the “best view” sign—the name isn’t exaggerated!!!! Breathtaking desert views in a charming setting. We could’ve stayed forever!

Great tip: Picnic at Petra (free tables available next to the BASIN restaurant, and sandwiches for sale—though not great—if you didn’t bring your own). Then we wandered around the site: a small circuit behind the Nabatean Restaurant with a view of the entire site, returning via the path that runs above Qasr al-Bint, the Great Temple, and the Colonnaded Street to reach the Street of Facades. This path offers another stunning view overlooking the temples and tombs. We took our time, and it was amazing… Back to Seven Wonder by 3:30 PM… The call of the pool, and we were exhausted!

Day 5: Last day in Petra with the Al Khubtha Trail circuit to see the Khazneh from above. Really fun to do (2.5-hour round trip, including 30 minutes of contemplation 😊. Best in the morning to see the Khazneh in the sun 👉 9:15 AM). Return via the tombs, and we recommend going straight up while staying left of the main path (amazing circuit with the best view of the theater—gorgeous).



Back to the car at 1 PM, lunch at Mr. Falafel, and headed to Aqaba via Little Petra and the Dead Sea (the Wadi Arabia road we loved!) to take the “Rift Valley—West Route” to Aqaba. The scenery loses its charm once you hit Route 65—we ended up regretting not taking the shorter route… but if you haven’t taken the Wadi Arabia road before, don’t miss it! Arrived at the Bedouin Garden Village at 5 PM (Aqaba, South Beach), and diving briefing 😊! Simple hotel with a great vibe and a nice little pool. However, not the cleanest (rooms and common areas)—you can tell there’s been a lack of guests lately, which is a shame because the location, decor, and atmosphere are all great. On the other hand, disappointed by the southern beaches—dirty and almost deserted, with nothing open for dinner in the evening.

Day 6-7: Morning dives (great marine life, easy shore dives with unique wrecks—cargo ship, tank, plane sunk near the shore). Lots of colorful fish, though small. Afternoons and evenings in Aqaba, which turned out to be a lively and pleasant city. Sunset drinks by the embankment near the giant flag—a great mix of local life, loud racing boats, music… we loved it. Dinner at Al Shami Restaurant—delicious, affordable, and a really nice terrace with a view of the beautiful Sharif Hussein bin Ali Mosque. Perfect lemon-mint juice!

Day 8: Two final dives in the morning, then drove to Wadi Rum (1 hour). Welcomed by Khaled and Claire from Mars on Earth (a top agency we highly recommend—they put together a “semi-custom” stay based on our schedule and desire to avoid crowds. Claire is French, which makes booking and planning ahead via email much easier). Afternoon in a private 4x4 in northern Wadi Rum to see the most famous and visited sites (lots of improbable selfies 😠!). Gorgeous sunset with Bedouin tea over the fire. Khaled is amazing, with a beautiful smile… Arrived at the tent camp for the night. Great location, unique dinner, and a fun evening around the fire with Khaled leading cool games that got everyone chatting. Beautiful tent with a view of the stars…

Day 9: Trek to Burdah Rock Bridge (3 hours)—for sporty types only, as it’s a tough climb and descent with no protection or pitons… basically climbing with just a 3-meter rope held by our guide to help us! But what an amazing memory, incredible views, and a real adventure for my 57 years! Would do it again in a heartbeat 😊!

Then headed south in Wadi Rum. Let’s just say it was our favorite area… we strongly recommend spending a full day there… Wild, red, and empty—another planet! Salem, our climbing guide, took us to wonderful spots with breathtaking views. We wished the day could’ve lasted 48 hours!



End of the day: sunset, Bedouin tea, beautiful views… Just the classics 😉, but we loved it! Then spent the night under the stars. Salem set up comfortable mattresses and thick blankets, prepared tea and dinner over the wood fire. An amazing experience—like being a kid again, with a sky so stunning we fought sleep just to keep our eyes open.

Day 10: Woke up around 7 AM after a great night under the stars! Breakfast… and then it was time to head back to Claire and Khaled’s to pick up our car. Drove to Wadi Ghuweir (2.5 hours from the King’s Highway). A truly magnificent wadi reached after a steep descent (don’t take a Fiat 500 for the climb back up!). Make sure to hike 2 hours in to reach a lush oasis with water where you can swim in the middle of the wadi… We didn’t know and stopped 15 minutes too early… I still regret it!! If there’s no water at the start of the hike, it’s because it’s flowing underground—don’t give up thinking the wadi is dry! That’s why it’s Claire’s and Family in Jordan’s favorite wadi. A must-do! Picnic in the wadi. Around 4 PM, headed to Dana—visited this tiny, unique village, half in ruins and half restored while keeping its old-world charm. Stayed overnight and had dinner at Dana Luxury Huts (amazing view with a private balcony, great triangular rooms—though the bathroom is tiny). Run by a family. Delicious food cooked by the mom. Bedouin tea after dinner around the fire—such a nice moment.

Day 11: “Sheq Al Reesh” trek in Dana Valley booked through the Luxury Huts hotel. Four hours in a totally different landscape from the desert—unique and guided by a fantastic guide who prepared a memorable lunch over a fire on the cliffside. We really loved this hike and the peacefulness of Dana. A great stop to break up the long drive back to the airport. Left Dana at 2 PM for Kerak Castle (2.5-hour drive). Nice visit, especially the underground passages. Then drove to Madaba (1.5 hours) to explore the city by night, do some last-minute shopping, and wait for our 3:30 AM flight… not fun!

Good to know:

Late October was a perfect time—temperatures between 25 and 35°C depending on location (mountains or sea), with lows of 13°C at night in Wadi Rum 👉 A fleece is enough; it’s not that cold in the desert, and the blankets are amazing. Eleven days is the perfect amount of time to take it slow, stop for "Bedouin tea" invitations in unexpected places, and soak in the colors! We don’t regret doing the trip "backwards"—starting with the Dead Sea and ending with Wadi Rum and Dana (usually, people start with the King’s Highway). We recommend the ‘Family In Jordan’ guide for those who want an easy way to find trailheads and routes. Don’t hesitate to explore multiple wadis—not just Wadi Mujib! We highly recommend Mars on Earth for organizing your Wadi Rum stay. Very professional, with great bivouac and camp locations. No pushy salespeople. Jordanians are very respectful (especially toward women), super smiley, and helpful. We felt completely at ease—almost too much so 😉 Renting a car is a great option, but if possible, choose a mid-size category with a "real" engine and check the tires. The hills are tough, and some roads turn into semi-off-road for 500 meters… No issues driving—roads are in good condition. The only problem is the aggressive speed bumps everywhere. The Dana-Madaba King’s Highway is long (4 hours). Budget varies a lot depending on your choices: from a simple lunch for 4 JOD to a dinner for 30 JOD, depending on how touristy the restaurant is… On average, 8–10 JOD for a good local or seafood dish + drink, and 30–40 JOD for a night in a hotel (except the Movenpick, unfortunately ☹). Watch out for Fridays—it’s really hard to find picnic supplies! If you’re still hesitant, the Jordan Pass is a must and very cost-effective since it includes your visa. Get it online. Consider hubs like Madrid or Frankfurt—often faster and cheaper than flying via Paris and Air France if you live in the provinces!
Bright red and a headache
by UnaMilanese · 2025-11-22 · 71 replies
Hello 🙂

I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.

Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.

A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.

"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"

I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.

But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.

Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.

Catherine
Trip Report: Silk Road Journey in China
by Bertrand31 · 2025-11-10 · 10 replies
Hi everyone,

This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.

Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).

Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.

General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.

Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.

The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.

We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.

Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.

Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).

Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.

You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.

Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.

Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).

Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!

Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.

In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.

The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).

Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.

Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.

In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).

The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.

For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.

- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.

- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.

The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.

- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.

- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.

- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.

- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.

- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.

- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).

- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.

Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.

- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.

- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.

- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).

- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.

- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.

- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.

We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.

Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
World Gardens and Parks – November 2025 Photo Contest
by UnaMilanese · 2025-11-05 · 67 replies


Good evening everyone,

So, it’s settled—the first idea (this book about the lush garden of a New York state parsonage, "this garden obsessed with the love this man had for his late wife." Reverend Cheney musically noting all the birdsongs, the water droplets in the watering can, the wind rushing through cloaks at the end of the 19th century) will be the theme.

Garden: A plot of land, usually enclosed, attached or not to a dwelling, planted with useful or ornamental vegetation.

So, private gardens, vegetable patches, herb gardens, botanical gardens, winter gardens with their lush greenhouses, the "hortus conclusus" of cloisters evoking the Garden of Eden, public gardens, and their extension into parks are all welcome. I’m sure I’ve forgotten some...

Photos can be posted until Monday, November 24 at midnight, following the usual rules: one per message, numbered from 1 to 3, with the location of the shot and, if you’d like, a few details.

Voting, where you explicitly assign 3 to 1 points to your top 3 photos, will take place from Tuesday, November 25 at 12:01 AM until Sunday, November 30 at midnight. The results will be announced on December 1.

Your turn! 😉

Catherine

PS: This thread is reserved for contest photos. For all other photos and conversations under the trees by the fountains, it’s here.

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