15 jours en road-trip dans la région du Cap en novembre 2020
by Laurenbreiz
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Et voilà...
Nous voilà repartis sur un nouveau voyage en perspective auquel on a pas pu résister. En effet, Qatar Airways avait lancé une offre de 10 000 billets gratuits (juste les taxes à payer) pour les soignants (je suis infirmière)
On n’a hélas pas réussi à avoir un code promotionnel mais quelques semaines plus tard on a reçu un code promotionnel à 50% et on a saisi l opportunité.
Sur le fil du rasoir, on a réussi à avoir deux billets aller retour et on s est décidé pour 15 jours dans la région du cap en Afrique du Sud du 16 au 30 novembre.
Il y a évidemment un risque d annulation si COVID-19 mais les billets seront alors reportés.
On part donc sur un road-trip en 4x4 avec matériel de camping pour alterner nuits en camping et hôtel. On va se concentrer sur la région du Sud et je suis donc preneuse de vos lumières...
A vos stylos !!!
D'habitude, les gens postent un itinéraire et vous avez des commentaires et retours. Vous avez également la possibilité de consulter les différentes discussions consacrées à l'Afrique du Sud, vous avez des posts qui peuvent vous aider.
Même si c'est old style, débuter par la lecture d'un guide papier (ou version PDF si vous ne voulez pas employer un livre "à l'ancienne") est toujours une bonne idée.
Michel
Michel
Oui pas de souci...
Je sais aller consulter des guides ou des carnets de voyage. Je travaille déjà sur un itinéraire.
Je veux juste des infos sur des choses à ne pas rater ou auxquelles je n’aurais pas pensé.
Merci de votre retour....
Oui on va se limiter au cap et alentours pour prendre notre temps...
On y réfléchit justement... on a réservé nos billets samedi matin...
Après grosse voiture ou pas
Camping, hôtel...
mon conjoint est directeur d agence pour avis donc il a des super tarifs...
Quant au camping , c’est à réfléchir. Parfois le camping permet d être au plus près des réserves d animaux mais on n’envisageait pas de faire la route jusqu’au parc kruger...
Le camping c'est bien dans les parcs nationaux et provinciaux mais Le Cap c'est très loin des grands parcs animaliers. Vous pouvez aller jusqu'au Addo Elephant NP, possiblement Camdeboo et Mountain Zebra NP.
Une petite voiture fait l'affaire.
Attila, qui répondait a toutes les questions sur l'Afrique australe dans VF, a disparu des forums depuis un mois.
D'abord, félicitations (pas pour avoir fait votre job mais pour avoir choisi l'Afrique du Sud). 😇
Vous n'aurez pas de pluie aux alentours du Cap et les températures seront douces (comme un été brestois 😉). Dans les terres, dont je vous recommande la visite, les maximales seront inférieures à 30°C.
Idéal pour camper, donc. Le transport intercontinental du matériel ne vous coûte rien et vous aurez une voiture, pourquoi s'en priver, même pour quelques nuits? Il n'y a pas que dans les parcs que c'est intéressant, je dirais même que là, il n'y a guère de valeur ajoutée (sauf dans les parcs côtiers). Tout au long des côtes vous trouverez des campings parfois super bien placés. C'est aussi un moyen de rester libre, sans réserver les étapes même si, à cette époque, ce ne sera pas la cohue (vous êtes juste avant les vacances d'été locales).
Si vous voulez voir la faune emblématique dans des conditions acceptables, il faut aller jusqu'à Addo Elephant NP à 800 kms du Cap. C'est l'occasion d'une boucle classique avec l'océan Indien dans un sens et le Karoo dans l’autre.
Quand vous dites les terres, vous parlez des domaines viticoles?
J avais inclu le addo éléphant park. C’était notre limite à l est.
Que pensez vous du garden road park?
La wild card, elle vaut le coup?
Le Karoo, l'intérieur aride, par exemple Camdeboo et Mountain Zebra NP.
Wild Card ? Sans doute pas rentable dans votre cas, à moins que vous envisagiez un deuxième voyage en Afrique du Sud en moins d'un an.
Bonjour Laurence,
Il y a largement de quoi s'occuper deux semaines dans les environs du Cap mais le côté "Faune africaine" n'est pas du tout l'intérêt du secteur, même si une ou deux réserves privées "Big 5" ont été créées pour attirer le touristes qui se balade dans le coin. Mountain Zebra NP et Camdeboo sont tout de même assez éloignés comme Addo Park mais en sacrifiant un peu de temps à la route, ça reste envisageable. Par contre si tu aimes la randonnées, les beaux paysages, le vin et de belles côtes, il y a de quoi faire : Kogelberg et Hermanus (pour les baleines), Cape Agulhas, De Hoop NR, Cederberg/Groot Winterhoek, Cape Columbine, Garden Road, Tankwa Karoo NP, Anysberg, le Swartberg (Seweweekspoort, Meiringspoort, Swartberpass), Die Hell si tu disposes d'un 4x4, Karoo NP etc. Pour les villes, Le Cap, bien sûr, Franshhoek, Tulbagh, Oudtshoorn, Calitzdorp.
En ce qui concerne la Wild Card, il faut faire un calcul mais sur 15 jours il n'est pas certain qu'elle soit rentable encore que ? Tous les parcs et réserves ci-dessus sont inclus dans le forfait ainsi que les randos (magnifiques) dans le Cederberg (ne pas manquer Stadsall) et souvent autour du Cap ou dans le Swartberg.
Bien cordialement. Jacky.
"Moins faire pour mieux voir !"
Il y a largement de quoi s'occuper deux semaines dans les environs du Cap mais le côté "Faune africaine" n'est pas du tout l'intérêt du secteur, même si une ou deux réserves privées "Big 5" ont été créées pour attirer le touristes qui se balade dans le coin. Mountain Zebra NP et Camdeboo sont tout de même assez éloignés comme Addo Park mais en sacrifiant un peu de temps à la route, ça reste envisageable. Par contre si tu aimes la randonnées, les beaux paysages, le vin et de belles côtes, il y a de quoi faire : Kogelberg et Hermanus (pour les baleines), Cape Agulhas, De Hoop NR, Cederberg/Groot Winterhoek, Cape Columbine, Garden Road, Tankwa Karoo NP, Anysberg, le Swartberg (Seweweekspoort, Meiringspoort, Swartberpass), Die Hell si tu disposes d'un 4x4, Karoo NP etc. Pour les villes, Le Cap, bien sûr, Franshhoek, Tulbagh, Oudtshoorn, Calitzdorp.
En ce qui concerne la Wild Card, il faut faire un calcul mais sur 15 jours il n'est pas certain qu'elle soit rentable encore que ? Tous les parcs et réserves ci-dessus sont inclus dans le forfait ainsi que les randos (magnifiques) dans le Cederberg (ne pas manquer Stadsall) et souvent autour du Cap ou dans le Swartberg.
Bien cordialement. Jacky.
"Moins faire pour mieux voir !"
Yol + D'Jack
J'avance sur notre programme: circuit assez classique.
On arrive sur le cap en milieu de journée, j'ai trouvé une chambre sur Somerset west pour se reposer du voyage...
Puis le circuit commence dès le lendemain avec la route des jardins qui se terminerait par deux nuits au addo elephant park puis retour par l'intérieur des terres. Il nous reste 7 jours -7 nuits pour le cap, la péninsule du cap et la route des vins (escapade en vélo qui nous tente bien).
Bref, en cherchant des logements sur le cap, j'ai eu un coup de cœur sur un studio dans le quartier de woodstock avec un rooftop avec une piscine. Vraiment sympa mais avec une réduction pour une semaine j'arrive a 92 euros la semaine soit 11 euros la nuit ce qui me parait ridiculement pas cher.
Soit le quartier est super craignos, soit il y a un bug quelque part. Je précise qu'il y a une place de parking sécurisé et les 10 avis sont positifs et disent que l'endroit est safe. et en plus annulation gratuite jusqu'au 19 novembre...
Mais c'est possible ce prix là?
Bref, en cherchant des logements sur le cap, j'ai eu un coup de cœur sur un studio dans le quartier de woodstock avec un rooftop avec une piscine. Vraiment sympa mais avec une réduction pour une semaine j'arrive a 92 euros la semaine soit 11 euros la nuit ce qui me parait ridiculement pas cher.
Soit le quartier est super craignos, soit il y a un bug quelque part. Je précise qu'il y a une place de parking sécurisé et les 10 avis sont positifs et disent que l'endroit est safe. et en plus annulation gratuite jusqu'au 19 novembre...
Mais c'est possible ce prix là?
Je suppose que c'est sur Airbnb que tu as trouvé ton logement ?
Il est à combien sans la réduction ? Sinon impossible de comparer
Il est à combien sans la réduction ? Sinon impossible de comparer
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
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"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
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14 euros la nuit sinon c est un tarif COVID-19....
Et oui c est air b and b
Si c'est AirBnb et que les commentaires sont bons il n'y a pas trop à s'inquieter 🙂
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela
https://www.en-voyages.fr
pour une semaine j'arrive a 92 euros la semaine soit 11 euros la nuit ce qui me parait ridiculement pas cher.
Même au taux de change historiquement bas, c'est en effet trop peu cher (même si 92/7=13). C'est décidément l'année des bonnes affaires pour vous!
Soit le quartier est super craignos, soit il y a un bug quelque part.
Woodstock est en voie de gentrification mais il y a encore des quartiers très très pauvres et la situation n'a pas dû s'améliorer depuis trois mois. Si votre logement y est situé, soyez extrêmement vigilants dans la rue, en particulier le soir. N'ayez sur vous que ce que vous pourrez abandonner sans regret et si vous êtes braqués donnez sans résister. Ici, on sort une arme pour un téléphone. Malgré la présence d'un gardien, ne laissez rien dans la voiture. Ceci dit, ce quartier est un excellent choix. Très vivant, très mélangé, créatif, branché, friendly.
Même au taux de change historiquement bas, c'est en effet trop peu cher (même si 92/7=13). C'est décidément l'année des bonnes affaires pour vous!
Soit le quartier est super craignos, soit il y a un bug quelque part.
Woodstock est en voie de gentrification mais il y a encore des quartiers très très pauvres et la situation n'a pas dû s'améliorer depuis trois mois. Si votre logement y est situé, soyez extrêmement vigilants dans la rue, en particulier le soir. N'ayez sur vous que ce que vous pourrez abandonner sans regret et si vous êtes braqués donnez sans résister. Ici, on sort une arme pour un téléphone. Malgré la présence d'un gardien, ne laissez rien dans la voiture. Ceci dit, ce quartier est un excellent choix. Très vivant, très mélangé, créatif, branché, friendly.
oui c'est 11 euros la nuit avec la réduction de 20% et sans les frais de service.
le propriétaire m'a dit qu'en effet, il fallait éviter de se promener seul la nuit mais je crois que c'est valable dans tous les quartiers du cap et que si on avait une voiture de location (ce qui est le cas) c'était safe car il y a un parking souterrain.
Donc j'ai validé car je ne prends pas un gros risque, il nous faudra être prudent et prendre les précautions nécessaires, rouler avec les portes verrouillées et ne pas se promener le soir... on profitera du rooftop de la piscine sur le toit.... si le covid n'empêche pas le voyage...
je prends donc soin de ne prendre que des prestations annulables, c'est plus prudent mais j'espère sincèrement pouvoir faire un voyage sans la présence omniprésente du covid qui nous a déjà un peu gâché notre voyage de mars 2020 au sri Lanka...
le propriétaire m'a dit qu'en effet, il fallait éviter de se promener seul la nuit mais je crois que c'est valable dans tous les quartiers du cap et que si on avait une voiture de location (ce qui est le cas) c'était safe car il y a un parking souterrain.
Donc j'ai validé car je ne prends pas un gros risque, il nous faudra être prudent et prendre les précautions nécessaires, rouler avec les portes verrouillées et ne pas se promener le soir... on profitera du rooftop de la piscine sur le toit.... si le covid n'empêche pas le voyage...
je prends donc soin de ne prendre que des prestations annulables, c'est plus prudent mais j'espère sincèrement pouvoir faire un voyage sans la présence omniprésente du covid qui nous a déjà un peu gâché notre voyage de mars 2020 au sri Lanka...
J'aurai besoin d'une info, est on obligé de réserver sur le addo elephant park si on camp dans la reserve ?
L'entrée peut se prendre sur le moment?
Et l'emplacement de camping est il a réserver a l'avance?
L'entrée peut se prendre sur le moment?
Et l'emplacement de camping est il a réserver a l'avance?
Oui il faut réserver le camping sur le site de Sanparks.
Il ne faut pas réserver si on loge en dehors (je recommande Colchester).
Bonsoir Laurence,
En Afrique Australe, depuis quelques années (et malheureusement) Il est toujours préférable de réserver ses hébergements surtout en haute saison, même les campings mais novembre n'est pas surchargé (peu de monde en 2016 à cette même période, mais cela fait déjà 4 ans). En réservant, le voyage est plus rigide et le camping permet plus de souplesse. Sur le site de Sanparks, tu dois pouvoir voir si il y a beaucoup de réservations ou non quelques mois avant ton départ ?
Il est possible de loger à l'extérieur d'Addo, à Colchester située sur les rives de la Sundays River, à proximité des magnifiques dunes d'Alexendria et à la porte sud du parc (Mathyolweni Gate), il y a un camping près de la ville sur les rives de la rivière et de la zone maritime du parc. Il y a peut-être moins d'animaux dans cette zone mais aussi moins de touristes, quoique les éléphants soient imprévisibles (plus que les touristes).
Il y a plusieurs hébergements dans la ville d'Addo près de l'entrée principale dont un Backpackers mais je ne sais pas si il existe un camping. Ce coin est, pour moi, moins sympa.
Voilà des solutions de repli si tu n'as pas réservé et que le camping du parc est complet.
L'entrée du parc se prend bien sûr à la porte. Si tu restes 2 ou 3 jours, que tu voyages avec tes 3 enfants, si tu visites quelques autres sites couverts par la Wildcard, je pense que cette dernière peut être intéressante (voir le site de Wildcard Sanparks pour les tarifs et les parcs ou réserves concernés).
Bien cordialement. Jacky.
"Moins faire pour mieux voir !"
En Afrique Australe, depuis quelques années (et malheureusement) Il est toujours préférable de réserver ses hébergements surtout en haute saison, même les campings mais novembre n'est pas surchargé (peu de monde en 2016 à cette même période, mais cela fait déjà 4 ans). En réservant, le voyage est plus rigide et le camping permet plus de souplesse. Sur le site de Sanparks, tu dois pouvoir voir si il y a beaucoup de réservations ou non quelques mois avant ton départ ?
Il est possible de loger à l'extérieur d'Addo, à Colchester située sur les rives de la Sundays River, à proximité des magnifiques dunes d'Alexendria et à la porte sud du parc (Mathyolweni Gate), il y a un camping près de la ville sur les rives de la rivière et de la zone maritime du parc. Il y a peut-être moins d'animaux dans cette zone mais aussi moins de touristes, quoique les éléphants soient imprévisibles (plus que les touristes).
Il y a plusieurs hébergements dans la ville d'Addo près de l'entrée principale dont un Backpackers mais je ne sais pas si il existe un camping. Ce coin est, pour moi, moins sympa.
Voilà des solutions de repli si tu n'as pas réservé et que le camping du parc est complet.
L'entrée du parc se prend bien sûr à la porte. Si tu restes 2 ou 3 jours, que tu voyages avec tes 3 enfants, si tu visites quelques autres sites couverts par la Wildcard, je pense que cette dernière peut être intéressante (voir le site de Wildcard Sanparks pour les tarifs et les parcs ou réserves concernés).
Bien cordialement. Jacky.
"Moins faire pour mieux voir !"
Yol + D'Jack
L'Afrique du Sud!!! Les veinards! C'est magnifique, la ville du Cap est déja très sympa, puis aller à table mountain un jour clair, la vue est formidable!!! N'oubliez pas Hermanus pour les baleines en novembre vous êtes encore à temps , c'est génial et sur le chemin vous pouvez voir les manchots. D'accord ce n'est pas obligé de voir le cap de Bonne Espérance, mais rien que de voir la mer avec les vagues immenses, on comprend bien des choses que l'on apprenait dans les cours d'histoire qui n'avait pas grand sens, moi j'ai trouvé ça impressionnant il y avait un vent à décorner les boeufs, peut être j'ai eu de la chance et c'était un jour spécialement "mauvais".
Pour la voiture on a pris la plus petite et moins chère, ça à fait parfaitement l'affaire et on a commencé à la ville du cap et on a fini à Hoedspruit, donc pas mal de kilomètres et beaucoup de parc. Sans problèmes!
Quant à alterner camping et hôtel... c'est une bonne idée, ça fait du bien de dormir de temps en temps dans un lit et prendre une vraie douche.
Bon voyage! Vous allez adorer!
On espère vraiment que ce voyage va se faire car actuellement ils sont en level 3 donc pas de tourisme international.
Question: nos billets seront ils automatiquement annulés si l'état ne valide pas les visas aux touristes étrangers? Ils ne peuvent pas nous laisser voler et atterrir et ne pas délivrer de visa une fois sur place?
car on serait bien embêté de passer 14 jours a l'aéroport...
Question: nos billets seront ils automatiquement annulés si l'état ne valide pas les visas aux touristes étrangers? Ils ne peuvent pas nous laisser voler et atterrir et ne pas délivrer de visa une fois sur place?
car on serait bien embêté de passer 14 jours a l'aéroport...
Coucou les Finistériens,
Je ne rajouterai, pas grand chose à ce qui a été dit, pour moi aucun intérêt de camper dans cette région où il ya des tas d'hébergements super sympas et bon marché. Dans les parcs nationaux de la garden road les hébergements sont très biens , propres et confortables. Non moi ce qui m'interroge c'est la POSSIBILITÉ du voyage . ON est en train de se dire qu'à ce jour on ne pourra tout simplement pas aller en Zambie récupérer notre Land Cruiser car les vols internationaux ne sont pas prêts de repartir et je suis très étonnée qu'on vous en ait vendus car le bruit, la rumeur , l'information ( la désinformation?) nous laisse à penser que les touristes étrangers ne pourront rejoindre les terres d'Afrique Australe qu'en Janvier 2021. Il y a une semaine des nouvelles de Livingstone nous avaient fait espérer un automne africain mais devant la flambée sud africaine de l'épidémie je suis du coup beaucoup moins optimiste ... À part ça pour camper , si vous aimez ce mode de voyage et comme je vous comprends, le Céderberg est vraiment génial . Je suis allée me balader à Woodstock lors d'un passage au Cap . J'étais toute seule et je n'ai pas été inquiétée , mais c'est vrai que d'un moment l'autre on passe d'un quartier bobo, créatif et décontracté à un environnement beaucoup moins propice à la balade , c'est comme ça. je suis donc avec intérêt votre préparation en espérant que vous pourrez faire ce joli voyage. P.S: le Karoo c'est super aussi! Amitiés Sylvie
Je ne rajouterai, pas grand chose à ce qui a été dit, pour moi aucun intérêt de camper dans cette région où il ya des tas d'hébergements super sympas et bon marché. Dans les parcs nationaux de la garden road les hébergements sont très biens , propres et confortables. Non moi ce qui m'interroge c'est la POSSIBILITÉ du voyage . ON est en train de se dire qu'à ce jour on ne pourra tout simplement pas aller en Zambie récupérer notre Land Cruiser car les vols internationaux ne sont pas prêts de repartir et je suis très étonnée qu'on vous en ait vendus car le bruit, la rumeur , l'information ( la désinformation?) nous laisse à penser que les touristes étrangers ne pourront rejoindre les terres d'Afrique Australe qu'en Janvier 2021. Il y a une semaine des nouvelles de Livingstone nous avaient fait espérer un automne africain mais devant la flambée sud africaine de l'épidémie je suis du coup beaucoup moins optimiste ... À part ça pour camper , si vous aimez ce mode de voyage et comme je vous comprends, le Céderberg est vraiment génial . Je suis allée me balader à Woodstock lors d'un passage au Cap . J'étais toute seule et je n'ai pas été inquiétée , mais c'est vrai que d'un moment l'autre on passe d'un quartier bobo, créatif et décontracté à un environnement beaucoup moins propice à la balade , c'est comme ça. je suis donc avec intérêt votre préparation en espérant que vous pourrez faire ce joli voyage. P.S: le Karoo c'est super aussi! Amitiés Sylvie
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Je pense en effet que c est planté pour notre voyage en novembre 2020. Je ne vais pas m’engager sur un voyage dans un pays où la pandémie est à son maximum ( je suis infirmière ) et y entraîner mon conjoint...
Je ne comprends juste pas comment les compagnies continuent à vendre des billets dans cette situation. À quel moment vont ils les annuler? Si nous les devançons pour décaler notre voyage , nous perdons notre tarif préférentiel et serons nous remboursés ou aurons nous un avoir?
Bref, le plus prudent sera de le reporter en 2021 mais à quelle période?
Beaucoup de questionnement....
Je me résous de plus en plus sur le fait que partir en AFS en novembre 2020, c'est de la folie... L'épidémie va atteindre son maximum entre juillet et novembre donc ce n'est vraiment pas prudent d'y aller.
Deux solutions après avoir appelé Qatar Airways....
Soit j'attends l'annulation du vol qui n'est pas encore effective pour novembre et je pourrai changer gratuitement (je pense qu'on perdra notre code promo soignants ce qui veut dire se décider au dernier moment sur une nouvelle destination. Soit reporter notre voyage en AFS en 2021 mais on a vraiment besoin de partir car on a bossé non stop pendant le confinement.
Soit anticiper sur une nouvelle destination ou le risque covid est moindre.
En lisant , j'ai trouvé des destinations plus safe et il faut aussi des destinations compatibles avec nos dates du 16 au 30 novembre:
j'aimerai aussi une destination ou on n'explose pas notre budget sur place donc après élimination, j'arrive sur Thaïlande (déjà fait mais sans mon conjoint), Laos (sans mon conjoint aussi, Vietnam (jamais fait), Corée du sud (??)
on a un impératif on va avoir un avoir chez Qatar Airways donc ca nous limite sur les Amériques... Le japon colle mais c'est cher... idem Australie, nouvelle Zélande
Qu'en pensez vous?
Deux solutions après avoir appelé Qatar Airways....
Soit j'attends l'annulation du vol qui n'est pas encore effective pour novembre et je pourrai changer gratuitement (je pense qu'on perdra notre code promo soignants ce qui veut dire se décider au dernier moment sur une nouvelle destination. Soit reporter notre voyage en AFS en 2021 mais on a vraiment besoin de partir car on a bossé non stop pendant le confinement.
Soit anticiper sur une nouvelle destination ou le risque covid est moindre.
En lisant , j'ai trouvé des destinations plus safe et il faut aussi des destinations compatibles avec nos dates du 16 au 30 novembre:
j'aimerai aussi une destination ou on n'explose pas notre budget sur place donc après élimination, j'arrive sur Thaïlande (déjà fait mais sans mon conjoint), Laos (sans mon conjoint aussi, Vietnam (jamais fait), Corée du sud (??)
on a un impératif on va avoir un avoir chez Qatar Airways donc ca nous limite sur les Amériques... Le japon colle mais c'est cher... idem Australie, nouvelle Zélande
Qu'en pensez vous?
Tu iras la où c'est permis et possible ... probablement nulle part hors de l'Europe.
Ok merci
Bonjour,
Je suis aller plusieurs fois en Afrique du sud, la dernière fois 6 semaines cette année , janvier/ février !
Le 4X4 ce n'est pas indispensable même dans les réserves, les routes en générales sont bonnes aussi bien qu'en France !
En novembre l'eau (mer) est toujours fraîche avec souvent du vent, les plages exceptionnelles.
Je vous recommande les "Airbnb" les gens sont très accueillants et les logements de qualités
Le Cap est une ville très plaisante
Il me reste des Rand que je peux vous revendre
Pour plus d( informations 0389812641
JPBRIERE
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Hélas, notre projet tombe à l eau sur novembre 2020... j ai peu d espoir de pouvoir partir en novembre avec la crise sanitaire.
Bonsoir,
Woodstock n'est pas forcement le cartier idéal mais le logement peut être très bien
car les maison sont hyper protégées (mur de 3 mètre plus protection électrique )
JPBRIERE
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En A.du S. les blancs sortent le jour, les noirs la nuit (couvre- feux à 9 heure )
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Bonsoir,
Je connais aussi le Sri Lanka !
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J'y suis allé plusieurs fois sans réserver
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Colchester, très bonne idées j y ai logé plusieurs fois (voir Airbnb)
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J ai un correspondant francophone sur place, si vous voulez des informations fiables ?
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La covid 19 est très développé chez les noirs mais pas chez les blancs, pour des raisons
de pauvreté, de comportement sociaux.
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Novembre c'est dans 3 mois! l’À.du S. est un pays formidable il serai dommage de ne pas
y aller
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Oui je veux bien des informations fiables. C est surtout que si cela continue en Lebel 3, ils n accepteront pas de touristes étrangers à pénétrer sur le territoire.
Dans de nombres pays (surtout en Amérique du sud ) les touristes blancs et asiatiques ne sont plus les bienvenus car considérés comme porteurs du virus
En Afrique du Sud il y a deux mondes bien différents juxtaposés; les blancs et le noirs, ces deux
mondes ont leurs particularités ( j 'ai l'occasion de séjourner avec beaucoup de bonheur chez les Zoulous )
15 jours en Afrique du Sud c'est beaucoup trop court ( le pays est très grand, 2 fois la France)
Pour cette année je recommande l'ile de la réunion ou bien la Martinique/Guadeloupe c'est plus
sûr
Cordialement
JPBRIERE
La vie ne vaut rien mais rien ne vaut la vie
Sauf qu on a acheté des billets pour le cap avec la Qatar qui ne dessert pas ces destinations. Donc soit on décale l AFS en 2021 soit on change de destination avec la Qatar....
Pour moi le mieux serai d'attendre le dernier délais pour voir l'évolution et si besoin de reporter en 2021 en rajoutant au moins 1 semaine en Afrique du Sud
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Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Jambo! J'ai organisé mon voyage grâce à ce type de groupe donc je me permets de donner mon expérience ici. Nous sommes partis à 4 dont 2 enfants de 9 et 11 ans. Après avoir fait une demande d'une vingtaine de devis, j'ai choisi de faire la partie safari avec MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally a répondu rapidement et écouté toutes mes demandes contrairement à d'autres agences : un guide francophone , l'ordre de visite des parcs (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti puis Ngorongoro) et un mix entre hôtels petit budget et camping pour diminuer le coût. Ils étaient encore 4 dans la balance et c'est le prix qui m'a décidé. Malgré qu'ils soient les moins chers, j'ai eu l'impression d'être mieux servi que d'autres par exemple pour les repas qui ont tous été concoctés par un cuisinier masai, Louis, qui nous a accompagné tout au long du séjour alors que certains mangeaient des repas dans des boîtes en carton. Samuel, le guide nous a expliqué une multitude de choses et a répondu à toutes nos questions. José nous a conduit jusqu'à bon port. Tout ça, dans la bonne humeur ! A la fin du séjour, Ally est venu à notre rencontre et nous a offert des t-shirt à l'effigie de l'agence, nous avons trouvé cela super qu'ils viennent à notre rencontre pour avoir nos impressions. Bref je recommande +++ d'autant que c'est une agence locale qui aide également une association pour les femmes et les enfants.
Pour Zanzibar, organisation par moi même. J'ai longtemps hésité mais j'ai finalement pris les 4 nuits au même endroit. Nous n'aimons pas la foule, je visais Jambiani mais j'ai trouvé EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS à Bwejuu. Nous avons pris le premier transfert aéroport/hôtel avec eux car nous arrivions de nuit et cela me paraissait plus sûr. Très bon rapport qualité/prix, à notre goût. Par contre attention, on est assez isolé : idéal pour chiller et faire des excursions. Très peu de sollicitations sur la plage contrairement à ce que j'avais lu sur Zanzibar. On vit les pieds dans le sable du matin au soir, petite bassine d'eau devant la chambre pour se les nettoyer. Joli endroit ! J'avais demandé quelques tarifs pour les excursions avant de partir mais nous avons pris sur place. Pas à notre hôtel mais auprès d'un restaurant à côté qui était moins cher. Après réflexion, étant basé à Bwejuu, je souhaitais faire Blue Lagoon et Pungume(les 2 partant du sud de Zanzibar). Blue Lagoon : environ 3h de temps en tout, snorkelling sur un petit récif plein de poissons (coraux pas top) puis arrêt sur un spot avec de très nombreuses étoiles de mer, avec snacks locaux, fruits et boissons.Pungume: super journée avec une chance sur 2 de voir les dauphins (raté pour nous), passage vers des mangroves puis snorkelling sur un spot avec quelques jolis coraux et bien sûr des poissons avant une super grillade(thon, crevettes, calamars, langouste, frites) sur un banc de sable à l'abri du soleil. Enfin, avant de rejoindre Stone town, nous sommes allés à Paje cave beaucoup moins connu que Maalum: plus petite, on a vu des chauves-souris, on s'est baigné puis on est a nourri les poules et lapins(très bien pour les enfants). et pour finir, visite de Stone town par nous même avec repas au Forodhani market.
Pour l'avion, nous sommes partis avec Turkish airlines depuis Barcelone jusqu'au Kilimandjaro et retour depuis Zanzibar : très bien. Par contre le trajet Kilimandjaro -Zanzibar avec Precision Air, je ne le recommande pas: pas de bagage à l'arrivée...et d'après l'hôtel, ça arrive souvent. Nous ne les avons eu qu'un jour et demi après.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
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Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!




