Sécurité à Buenos Aires: taxis et "pick pocket"
by Zincoo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut a tous j'ai lu dans les guide sur buenos aires qu'il faut se mefier des taxi
avez vous des temoignage, faut il etre parano
dites moi ? ainsi que sur les pick pocket
y a t'il des quartier a eviter ?
les bagage dans les bus se mefier?
je reprend umpeu tous ce que j'ai pu lire ...
Comme partout : etre prudent, se renseigner (aupres des locaux) sur les endroits a ne pas frequenter, etc etc... J'ai pas eu l'impression d'avoir à me méfier a Buenos Aires.
En ce qui concerne les bus, en journée et en soirée, aucun probleme me semble t il a Buenos Aires. Les gens la bas ont tendance a te deconseiller de le prendre la nuit... Ce que je n'ai pas compris.
Les taxis: c surtout parce qu'ils roulent comme des fous qu'il ne faut pas les prendre. Un soir, j'étais en retard et ai pris un taxi ... j'ai attrapé des nausées, et j'ai du demander au chauffeur de s'arreter et de me laisser descendre s'il ne voulait pas que je fasse de sa voiture un carnage.
J'ai entendu parler de quelques histoires de kidnappings... Ms ca arrive partt non? C'est juste que la, les medias en parlent.
Point de vue vols, j'crois pas que tu doives te méfier bcp a Bs As... En tt cas pas au point de devenir parano.
En ce qui concerne les bus, en journée et en soirée, aucun probleme me semble t il a Buenos Aires. Les gens la bas ont tendance a te deconseiller de le prendre la nuit... Ce que je n'ai pas compris.
Les taxis: c surtout parce qu'ils roulent comme des fous qu'il ne faut pas les prendre. Un soir, j'étais en retard et ai pris un taxi ... j'ai attrapé des nausées, et j'ai du demander au chauffeur de s'arreter et de me laisser descendre s'il ne voulait pas que je fasse de sa voiture un carnage.
J'ai entendu parler de quelques histoires de kidnappings... Ms ca arrive partt non? C'est juste que la, les medias en parlent.
Point de vue vols, j'crois pas que tu doives te méfier bcp a Bs As... En tt cas pas au point de devenir parano.
Oui, il faut être très prudent, aucun signe de richesse extérieure, prendre des taxis appelées par téléphone.
Je les prends à chaque voyage et je n'ai jamais de problèmes . Sur des grandes distances par exemple de l'aéroport a BS.AS. PRENDRE MANUEL TIENDA LEON, comptoir à la sortie des portes de l'aduane, très sérieux, je voyage avec eux depuis très longtemps, ils ont aussi service taxis en bs.as. si ma mémoire est bonne
tEL./ 0341 4258136/4258167/4492810/4492807 à Rosario.
OU 0800-444-536 à bs.as
Il est bon de voyager quelque fois; cela étend les idées et rabat l'amour propre
🙂bonjour a toi,
je me permets de te repondre car je vis a Buenos Aires depuis 3 mois,
ici je voyage sans probleme dans les bus comme dans les taxis, generalement ici les gens te conseille les radios taxis, ceux avec un numero inscrit sur les portieres... mais vraiment aucun soucis pour se deplacer de jour comme aux heures avancees.
la nuit parfois c est peut etre mieux de demander un remis, mais sinon pas plus de danger que dans une grande ville si on fait usage de bon sens...
voila pas de pick pockets en vue non plus
bon voyage😛
Bonjour Zincoo
En fait, le probleme avec les taxis est qu ils reconnaissent en toi un "touriste a pieger", et tu passes ainsi sur le premier de la liste a escroquer. Je m'explique : il y a a Bsas de nombreux faux billets, hors en general, les argentins reconnaissent tres vites les vrais des faux, mais les etrangers...non ! Donc de tres nombreux taxis " travaillent " pour des mafias de faussaires et ont pour tache de te refiler un maximum de faux billets. Tu peux donc etre transporté sans probleme d'un point a un autre, mais le probleme survient quand il faut payer ... A Bsas, une course depasse rarement ( en ville ) 10 voir 15 ARS ....et si tu files un gros billet de 100 ARS ou de 50 ARS, "el taxista" ( "el tachero" : en argot porteño ) ne va surement pas se gener pour te refiler la monnaie en faux billets de 10 ARS, 20 ARS et 5 ARS . Ou alors pire ( comme ce qui s est passe avant hier vendredi a Puerto Madero ), un mexicain monte dans un taxi, se fait amener a Puerto Madero, le chauffeur lui demande 15 ARS, le mexicain lui passe 100 ARS ...le taxista le prend et ( ils sont tres forts ), l echange tres vite contre un faux de 100 ARS ...et s'exclame en lui rendant, "mais tu me refiles un faux billet de 100 ARS, je ne peux l'accepter ! " ...le mexicain ( bonne pate et pas encore dans le coup ! ) reprend son "faux billet" et lui refile un autre billet de 100 ARS ....qu a nouveau le taxista echange rapidement contre un faux .....et gueule a nouveau ...... la quand meme ( ben oui le mexicain un peu lent mais pas trop con, commence a sentir que ca sent mauvais ) commence a argumenter que c'est impossible, qu il vient juste de la banque et que ses billets sont des vrais...... et dans le doute ...fais signe a un agent qui passe ( il y en toujours au coin des rues dans la journee ) .....cette fois, pris de panique, le taxi prend la fuite avec sa 504 ...mais le flic releve le numero et appelle de suite ses colegues ...pas de chance pour le tachero, nous sommes ne pleine journee sur Puerto Madero le trafic est bouché et on rattrape le taxi a 3 cuadras...on a retrouve dans son coffre un sac rempli de centaine de faux billets !!!!!!
Donc tu vois ici de refiler aux neuneus des faux billets c'est un veritable "passion" ...et les taxistas sont champions dans l art de t embrouiller.
Solution : prepare avant de monter dans le taxi des billets de 10 ARS ( que tu auras verifier de pres ), il ne pourra te rendre de la monnaie qu en piece et non pas en billet . et puis aussi toujours retenir la plaque de la voiture avant de monter .
Les arnaques sont partout, aucun quartier en particulier, j ai meme envie de dire que la ou il y a des touristes, il y a de l'arnaque : Recoleta, San Telmo, Micro Centre, Puerto Madero, Aeroports, Terminal de Retiro, ..etc....
A bientot !
Herge !
En fait, le probleme avec les taxis est qu ils reconnaissent en toi un "touriste a pieger", et tu passes ainsi sur le premier de la liste a escroquer. Je m'explique : il y a a Bsas de nombreux faux billets, hors en general, les argentins reconnaissent tres vites les vrais des faux, mais les etrangers...non ! Donc de tres nombreux taxis " travaillent " pour des mafias de faussaires et ont pour tache de te refiler un maximum de faux billets. Tu peux donc etre transporté sans probleme d'un point a un autre, mais le probleme survient quand il faut payer ... A Bsas, une course depasse rarement ( en ville ) 10 voir 15 ARS ....et si tu files un gros billet de 100 ARS ou de 50 ARS, "el taxista" ( "el tachero" : en argot porteño ) ne va surement pas se gener pour te refiler la monnaie en faux billets de 10 ARS, 20 ARS et 5 ARS . Ou alors pire ( comme ce qui s est passe avant hier vendredi a Puerto Madero ), un mexicain monte dans un taxi, se fait amener a Puerto Madero, le chauffeur lui demande 15 ARS, le mexicain lui passe 100 ARS ...le taxista le prend et ( ils sont tres forts ), l echange tres vite contre un faux de 100 ARS ...et s'exclame en lui rendant, "mais tu me refiles un faux billet de 100 ARS, je ne peux l'accepter ! " ...le mexicain ( bonne pate et pas encore dans le coup ! ) reprend son "faux billet" et lui refile un autre billet de 100 ARS ....qu a nouveau le taxista echange rapidement contre un faux .....et gueule a nouveau ...... la quand meme ( ben oui le mexicain un peu lent mais pas trop con, commence a sentir que ca sent mauvais ) commence a argumenter que c'est impossible, qu il vient juste de la banque et que ses billets sont des vrais...... et dans le doute ...fais signe a un agent qui passe ( il y en toujours au coin des rues dans la journee ) .....cette fois, pris de panique, le taxi prend la fuite avec sa 504 ...mais le flic releve le numero et appelle de suite ses colegues ...pas de chance pour le tachero, nous sommes ne pleine journee sur Puerto Madero le trafic est bouché et on rattrape le taxi a 3 cuadras...on a retrouve dans son coffre un sac rempli de centaine de faux billets !!!!!!
Donc tu vois ici de refiler aux neuneus des faux billets c'est un veritable "passion" ...et les taxistas sont champions dans l art de t embrouiller.
Solution : prepare avant de monter dans le taxi des billets de 10 ARS ( que tu auras verifier de pres ), il ne pourra te rendre de la monnaie qu en piece et non pas en billet . et puis aussi toujours retenir la plaque de la voiture avant de monter .
Les arnaques sont partout, aucun quartier en particulier, j ai meme envie de dire que la ou il y a des touristes, il y a de l'arnaque : Recoleta, San Telmo, Micro Centre, Puerto Madero, Aeroports, Terminal de Retiro, ..etc....
A bientot !
Herge !
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Les taxis oui il faut s'en mefier mais pas trop non plus. Tu peux les heller dans la rue mais prend toujours un taxi s'une compagnie comme ça si tu as un doute tu prends le numero et tu te plains a la compagnie. Aussi les taxis qui t'attendents a la sortie des banques ou des bureaux de change c'est pas le bon plan.
Pick pockets, comme dans le metro a Paris tu fait gaffe mais pas de parano
quartiers a eviter. La Boca a part a coté du stade (et encore) et Caminito. L'endroit est lugubre sombre rien a voir et tres dangereux. J'ai fait la connerie de vouloir le traverser a pied serieux j'ai vraiment eu peur.
Bagages dans le bus: bah evite de les mette au fond du bus et de t'assoir devant mais ça me parrait de bon sens
Et surtout ne passe pas ton temps a te preocupper de securité etc etc masi passe du bon temps a Buenos Aires.
Pick pockets, comme dans le metro a Paris tu fait gaffe mais pas de parano
quartiers a eviter. La Boca a part a coté du stade (et encore) et Caminito. L'endroit est lugubre sombre rien a voir et tres dangereux. J'ai fait la connerie de vouloir le traverser a pied serieux j'ai vraiment eu peur.
Bagages dans le bus: bah evite de les mette au fond du bus et de t'assoir devant mais ça me parrait de bon sens
Et surtout ne passe pas ton temps a te preocupper de securité etc etc masi passe du bon temps a Buenos Aires.
Libertad o muerte
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je rentre de Buenos Aires (au passage coucou et encore merci Hergé) donc la securité est plutot bonne a Bs As et tres bonnes dans tout le reste du pays, pas eu de problemes sur Bs As meme la nuit, les taxis de toute facon tu fais comme hergé te le conseille tu as des petites coupures et de toute facon comme il a été sympa avec toi tu lui laisse la monnaie comme pourboire, bon je me suis fait un peu arnaqué comme je suis un touriste.... en allant a ezeiza depuis aeroparque, pressé je monte dans le premier taxi qui m'acoste le gars il a pas du aller aussi loin depuis 20 ans son taxi non plus, le taxi tout vieux vibre de partout il peut pas depasser le 80, le gars avait meme pas assez d'essence (gaz) pour ezeiza et a du rouler sur la reserve mais la ou je me suis fait arnaqué c'est qu'il a mit le compteur en marche (alors que pour aller a ezeiza il ya un forfait genre 50$ ars) mais en plus son compteur allait bien trop vite résultat on c'est prit le taxi le plus lent du monde, le moins sur vu comme il vibrait avec un chauffeur tout vieux qui nous as escroqué de 100$ mais apres coup tu te dit que ce devait etre un bon jour pour lui et qu'il a bien du rire apres (s'il a pu repartir de ezeiza avec son tacot) sinon depuis les hotels ou les magsins vous pouvez appeller des radio taxis ou bien des remis (voiture avec chauffeur) nous n'avons prit que 2/3 fois des taxis dans la rue mais toujours un chauffeur bien sympa qui a envie de te faire connaitre sa ville et de rigoler avec toi (pas de toi) prix honnete et pas d'arnaque c'est clair en tout cas que si tu te fais refiler des faux billets tu ne peux que les jeter ou bien reussir a les refiler a d'autres touristes.... car dans tous les magasins ils inspectent tous tes billets a la caisse
Ciao Gilles
je rentre de Buenos Aires (au passage coucou et encore merci Hergé) donc la securité est plutot bonne a Bs As et tres bonnes dans tout le reste du pays, pas eu de problemes sur Bs As meme la nuit, les taxis de toute facon tu fais comme hergé te le conseille tu as des petites coupures et de toute facon comme il a été sympa avec toi tu lui laisse la monnaie comme pourboire, bon je me suis fait un peu arnaqué comme je suis un touriste.... en allant a ezeiza depuis aeroparque, pressé je monte dans le premier taxi qui m'acoste le gars il a pas du aller aussi loin depuis 20 ans son taxi non plus, le taxi tout vieux vibre de partout il peut pas depasser le 80, le gars avait meme pas assez d'essence (gaz) pour ezeiza et a du rouler sur la reserve mais la ou je me suis fait arnaqué c'est qu'il a mit le compteur en marche (alors que pour aller a ezeiza il ya un forfait genre 50$ ars) mais en plus son compteur allait bien trop vite résultat on c'est prit le taxi le plus lent du monde, le moins sur vu comme il vibrait avec un chauffeur tout vieux qui nous as escroqué de 100$ mais apres coup tu te dit que ce devait etre un bon jour pour lui et qu'il a bien du rire apres (s'il a pu repartir de ezeiza avec son tacot) sinon depuis les hotels ou les magsins vous pouvez appeller des radio taxis ou bien des remis (voiture avec chauffeur) nous n'avons prit que 2/3 fois des taxis dans la rue mais toujours un chauffeur bien sympa qui a envie de te faire connaitre sa ville et de rigoler avec toi (pas de toi) prix honnete et pas d'arnaque c'est clair en tout cas que si tu te fais refiler des faux billets tu ne peux que les jeter ou bien reussir a les refiler a d'autres touristes.... car dans tous les magasins ils inspectent tous tes billets a la caisse
Ciao Gilles
Nous avons passé 3 jours à Buenos Aires sans problème. Mais les hôtels sont très prudents lorsqu'ils appellent les taxis : le chauffeur doit présenter ses papiers au receptionniste qui note ses coordonnées avant que vous ne montiez en voiture.
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Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks