Carte routière papier pour les Etats-Unis: une idée de bonne référence?
by Tyflo2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Après recherche sur le forum, je n'ai pas trouvé l'info que je cherchais. Je souhaite acheter une carte routière en papier pour pouvoir visualiser notre voyage d'août 2013 et en discuter avec nos enfants de 5 (bientôt 6) et 8 ans. Nous avons regardé sur amazon et d'autres sites mais, ce qui nous gêne, c'est que la taille n'est pas indiquée.... On a peur de se retrouver avec une carte minuscule où finalement, toutes nos punaises étapes seraient réunies. Nous allons nous concentrer sur l'ouest et plus particulièrement la Californie, le Nevada et l'Utah. Avez-vous trouvé une carte qui correspond à ces critères ? Merci d'avance pour l'info et bonne journée du 8 mai !🙂
Florence
Bonjour Florence,
Chacun ses goûts, mais j'aime bien la Hallwag, à 12€ maxi (N°6 pour l'Ouest), voir ceci:
http://www.librairie-voyage.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?cat=9&q=hallwag&type_destination2=3195
à + Jean.
Chacun ses goûts, mais j'aime bien la Hallwag, à 12€ maxi (N°6 pour l'Ouest), voir ceci:
http://www.librairie-voyage.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?cat=9&q=hallwag&type_destination2=3195
à + Jean.
4 fois en Camping-car: Parcs US - NewMex - Yellowst - Louisiane.
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2009/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2011/
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
Andalousie, Bretagne, Corse, Provence, Sicile, Toscane, villes d'Italie.
sur : http://blogs.crespel.me/
Dans mes souvenirs l'atlas Rand McNally n'était pas mal du tout...
CHEZ WALMART UN ATLAS COMPLET POUR 8$
http://www.walmart.com/ip/2012-Walmart-Road-Atlas/19860384?findingMethod=rr
DES GPS A PARTIR DE 50$
Sur beaucoup de smartphone il y a une fonction GPS sans avoir besoin d'un reseau, il faut télécharger les cartes.
DES GPS A PARTIR DE 50$
Sur beaucoup de smartphone il y a une fonction GPS sans avoir besoin d'un reseau, il faut télécharger les cartes.
Merci Gilles, ça pourra nous servir une fois sur place. Ce que je cherche pour l'instant c'est une bonne vieille carte papier pour montrer aux enfants où on va aller et en discuter ensemble. 😉
A +
Florence
Bonjour🙂
Alors nous, nous avons la carte touristique IGN Etats-Unis Ouest au 1/2 000 000 que l'on utilise pour faire une première ébauche de nos circuits et ensuite sur place, nous l'avons seulement par sécurité, nous faisons alors entièrement confiance à notre GPS dans lequel nous avons rentré des points de navigation, très utile pour gagner un temps précieux.
Pour la préparation c'est Google map, très facile et très efficace, puis, pour les randos, des éditions du site Ouest USA et une application iphone, Motion X GPS.
Bonne prépa, kénavo😉
PS:Ne vous inquiétez pas, les Bretons supportent très bien la chaleur du Southwest, la motivation pour découvrir des sites tous plus extraordinaires les uns les autres étant largement supérieure à la sensation de chaleur.(bien se protéger et boire beaucoup quand même!!)
Alors nous, nous avons la carte touristique IGN Etats-Unis Ouest au 1/2 000 000 que l'on utilise pour faire une première ébauche de nos circuits et ensuite sur place, nous l'avons seulement par sécurité, nous faisons alors entièrement confiance à notre GPS dans lequel nous avons rentré des points de navigation, très utile pour gagner un temps précieux.
Pour la préparation c'est Google map, très facile et très efficace, puis, pour les randos, des éditions du site Ouest USA et une application iphone, Motion X GPS.
Bonne prépa, kénavo😉
PS:Ne vous inquiétez pas, les Bretons supportent très bien la chaleur du Southwest, la motivation pour découvrir des sites tous plus extraordinaires les uns les autres étant largement supérieure à la sensation de chaleur.(bien se protéger et boire beaucoup quand même!!)
Les vacances c'est pas fait pour dormir!!
Le carnet de notre 2ème séjour dans l'Ouest en juin 2010:https://voyageforum.com/forum/etats-unis_de_ouest_armoricain_ouest_americain_D4225245/
Une petite vidéo perso de Las Vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVQUWNc5rqY
Une petite vidéo perso de Las Vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVQUWNc5rqY
Dans mes souvenirs l'atlas Rand McNally n'était pas mal du tout...
Par contre un atlas ne permet pas d'y mettre des punaises pour visualise le voyage.
Par contre un atlas ne permet pas d'y mettre des punaises pour visualise le voyage.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Merci Théo,
C'est bon d'entendre que les Bretons peuvent supporter la chaleur de l'ouest américain ! Nous voyagerons avec nos enfants. As-tu vécu cette expérience ?
Pour google map, j'ai testé. C'est vrai que c'est sympa mais je n'ai pas trouvé comment enregistrer son projet. Pourrais-tu m'expliquer comment on fait ça svp ?
Bons préparatifs à toi aussi de la part de Costarmoricains 😉
Florence
Bonjour Florence,
mais je n'ai pas trouvé comment enregistrer son projet.
Il suffit de télécharger "Pdf creator" gratuit !
Pour n'importe quel document ou page internet, il suffira alors de faire: fichier, imprimer, puis sélectionner (non pas ton imprimante, mais Pdf creator). Et ton fichier sera enregistré en Pdf.
Même punition pour un de tes fichiers en Excel ou Word. Et idem pour une page de calendrier Outlook.
à + Jean.
PS: je n'ai rien inventé... c'est mon fils qui m'a appris la manip !!!!!
mais je n'ai pas trouvé comment enregistrer son projet.
Il suffit de télécharger "Pdf creator" gratuit !
Pour n'importe quel document ou page internet, il suffira alors de faire: fichier, imprimer, puis sélectionner (non pas ton imprimante, mais Pdf creator). Et ton fichier sera enregistré en Pdf.
Même punition pour un de tes fichiers en Excel ou Word. Et idem pour une page de calendrier Outlook.
à + Jean.
PS: je n'ai rien inventé... c'est mon fils qui m'a appris la manip !!!!!
4 fois en Camping-car: Parcs US - NewMex - Yellowst - Louisiane.
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2009/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2011/
http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2012/ http://blogs.crespel.me/usa2013/
Andalousie, Bretagne, Corse, Provence, Sicile, Toscane, villes d'Italie.
sur : http://blogs.crespel.me/
Bonsoir Jean, merci pour l'info. J'avais posté un message pour te remercier de ta référence de carte mais il n'apparaît pas, sûrement un trou noir qui traînait par là...😎
Je vais essayer de suivre ta méthode pour google map. Quel boulot ces préparatifs ! On est souvent très enthousiastes mais on se sent quand même parfois un peu perdus et découragés. Après le choix définitif du parcours, une petite pause sera la bienvenue !
Bonne soirée ! 🙂
Florence
🙂Bonjour Florence🙂
Jean a répondu avant moi pour Google map!Il y a une deuxième méthode, c'est de créer un compte Google, à partir de là tu peux créer des cartes, es modifier, en donner le lien à qui tu veux, les enregistrer bien sûr, les annoter, les imprimer, ...C'est très pratique, le seul inconvénient c'est qu'il faut avoir une connexion internet si tu veux travailler dessus, mais bon, si tu les a imprimées au préalable ça le fait bien!
Pour ce qui est des enfants, non, nous avons fait nos différents trips (et encore le prochain) en couple, seuls tous les deux.Avec des enfants, il faut faire attention de ne pas passer de trop long trajets en voiture, dans l'Ouest ça roule très facilement, certains sites sont assez éloignés les uns des autres, donc bien préparer ses étapes et prévoir des hôtels avec piscine, en plus, c'est pas ça qui manque.Dans tous les parcs il y a des visitor center très très bien faits, avec beaucoup de choses à destination des enfants sur la faune, la flore, la géologie, je ne saurai que trop te conseiller de t'y arrêter, les rangers sont hyper accueillants et disponibles.(le programme Ranger's Junior peut aussi les intéresser, à voir).Enfin, tu trouveras toujours des randos familiales très sympa à faire dans tous les parcs, là encore les expériences des nombreux forumeurs voyageant avec les enfants et les rangers dans les visitor center te seront d'une aide précieuse.
Un bémol sur Las Vegas par rapport aux enfants, à mon avis tout n'est pas à voir dans cette ville pour eux, même si, personnellement j'aime bien y passer un jour ou deux et qu'elle est assez extraordinaire...
Je me suis permis de jeter un coup d'oeil à ton circuit, il est très sympa, tu vas halluciner tout du long et en prendre plein les yeux, ce sera un vrai rêve éveillé, c'est certain!Très chouette aussi l'origine de l'histoire...🙂
Voilà, si j'ai pu t'aider, j'en suis très content, n'hésites pas si tu as encore des questions (ça je n'en doute pas!😉), ce forum est une mine d'or pour bien organiser son séjour!
A bientôt!😉
Jean a répondu avant moi pour Google map!Il y a une deuxième méthode, c'est de créer un compte Google, à partir de là tu peux créer des cartes, es modifier, en donner le lien à qui tu veux, les enregistrer bien sûr, les annoter, les imprimer, ...C'est très pratique, le seul inconvénient c'est qu'il faut avoir une connexion internet si tu veux travailler dessus, mais bon, si tu les a imprimées au préalable ça le fait bien!
Pour ce qui est des enfants, non, nous avons fait nos différents trips (et encore le prochain) en couple, seuls tous les deux.Avec des enfants, il faut faire attention de ne pas passer de trop long trajets en voiture, dans l'Ouest ça roule très facilement, certains sites sont assez éloignés les uns des autres, donc bien préparer ses étapes et prévoir des hôtels avec piscine, en plus, c'est pas ça qui manque.Dans tous les parcs il y a des visitor center très très bien faits, avec beaucoup de choses à destination des enfants sur la faune, la flore, la géologie, je ne saurai que trop te conseiller de t'y arrêter, les rangers sont hyper accueillants et disponibles.(le programme Ranger's Junior peut aussi les intéresser, à voir).Enfin, tu trouveras toujours des randos familiales très sympa à faire dans tous les parcs, là encore les expériences des nombreux forumeurs voyageant avec les enfants et les rangers dans les visitor center te seront d'une aide précieuse.
Un bémol sur Las Vegas par rapport aux enfants, à mon avis tout n'est pas à voir dans cette ville pour eux, même si, personnellement j'aime bien y passer un jour ou deux et qu'elle est assez extraordinaire...
Je me suis permis de jeter un coup d'oeil à ton circuit, il est très sympa, tu vas halluciner tout du long et en prendre plein les yeux, ce sera un vrai rêve éveillé, c'est certain!Très chouette aussi l'origine de l'histoire...🙂
Voilà, si j'ai pu t'aider, j'en suis très content, n'hésites pas si tu as encore des questions (ça je n'en doute pas!😉), ce forum est une mine d'or pour bien organiser son séjour!
A bientôt!😉
Les vacances c'est pas fait pour dormir!!
Le carnet de notre 2ème séjour dans l'Ouest en juin 2010:https://voyageforum.com/forum/etats-unis_de_ouest_armoricain_ouest_americain_D4225245/
Une petite vidéo perso de Las Vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVQUWNc5rqY
Une petite vidéo perso de Las Vegas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVQUWNc5rqY
Bonjour Théo,
C'est vrai que c'est une belle histoire familiale. Après avoir reçu beaucoup d'amis américains, ce sera à notre tour d'aller voir un peu comment ils vivent. Certains d'entre eux habitent Los Angeles ou en Utah, d'autres feront le déplacement. Ca va être sympa !
On va effectivement prendre le temps car avec les enfants, il faut ménager la chèvre et le chou. En même temps, on sera en vacances et ce n'est sûrement pas non plus pour courir d'un endroit à l'autre sans arrêt ! 😛
Concernant google map, ce n'était qu'une ébauche ! Je vais suivre tes conseils et m'inscrire pour pouvoir enregistrer ce que je fais au fur et à mesure ! C'est pratique !
Bonne soirée et bonne préparation pour le voyage de cet été qui s'annonce encore très "american" ! 😎
Florence
Bonjour Chantal, bonjour à tous
Finalement j'ai acheté la michelin 585. C'est parfait pour visualiser, marquer le parcours, se projeter déjà dans le voyage avec les enfants et décorer mon bureau. Merci encore à tous pour vos suggestions ! 😉
Florence
Bonjour
Comme vs, je troiuve la Michelin parfaite pour preparer le voyage.
Apres, si vs n'avez pas de GPS, vs trouverez des cartes de l'etat dans les stations services, office de tourisme...
Je suis aussi tres fan de l'atlas RAND MC NALLY.
De meme, sur le net, je vs conseille d'aller faire un tour sur RAND MC NALLY, en complement de GOOGLE. Je trouve que les cartes sont mieux faites pour les voyages en auto.
Apres, si vs n'avez pas de GPS, vs trouverez des cartes de l'etat dans les stations services, office de tourisme...
Je suis aussi tres fan de l'atlas RAND MC NALLY.
De meme, sur le net, je vs conseille d'aller faire un tour sur RAND MC NALLY, en complement de GOOGLE. Je trouve que les cartes sont mieux faites pour les voyages en auto.
Bonjour Jean-Pierre,
Je vais aller voir ça, merci pour l'info !
Bonne soirée !
Florence
Bonsoir Florence,
Je suis contente que mon message t'ait servi.
Bon futur séjour aux USA
chantal
Moins précis mais moins cher :
http://www.cartograf.fr/les-pays-les-etats-unis.php
Et avec quant même une bonne base de référence pour se repérer dans le pays !
Bonne route !
http://www.cartograf.fr/les-pays-les-etats-unis.php
Et avec quant même une bonne base de référence pour se repérer dans le pays !
Bonne route !
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!

